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That's It! I've Solved it!
« on: December 03, 2011, 11:57:04 PM »

Offline jaketwice

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We need to S&T Jeff Green and send Jermaine O'Neal to Utah in exchange for
Al Jefferson. Then we need to sign Tayshaun Prince.

After he's amnesty'd, we'll up pick Baron Davis.

We win!

 

Re: That's It! I've Solved it!
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 12:59:20 AM »

Offline manl_lui

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meh, sounds like a good roster but everyone is old and means we will rebuild

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 01:09:55 AM »

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Definitely  would make us alot better, though we'd be weak at the 5 and 2 spot

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 01:51:17 AM »

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Definitely  would make us alot better, though we'd be weak at the 5 and 2 spot

We'd be much better at the 5. You can't count on JO ever.

I'm just really curious if JG and JO are enough. Maybe JG+JO+Clippers pick?

Re: That's It! I've Solved it!
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 07:32:56 AM »

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why do people here think Jermaine O'Neal is a legit trade chip?

his salary would even out money in a deal but we're talking about a guy who cant get on the court.

I have a hard time thinking any team is activly looking to pick up Jermaine from us, while hooking us up with a young player like Al Jefferson.

its nice in theory....
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Re: That's It! I've Solved it!
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 07:50:56 AM »

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i like Jermaine O'Neal

he is a solid player..not many players with his height, skill and knowledge of the game..

even tho he is a starter we need a another big man cause Jermanie would be better off the bench..i wouldnt trade him

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 08:02:53 AM »

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Al Jefferson isn't being traded.  Milsap maybe, Jefferson no way.
do it

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 08:37:12 AM »

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We need to S&T Jeff Green and send Jermaine O'Neal to Utah in exchange for
Al Jefferson. Then we need to sign Tayshaun Prince.

After he's amnesty'd, we'll up pick Baron Davis.

We win!

 

wishful thinking.  why in the world would utah want green and o'neil and give away big al?!?!

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 08:47:46 AM »

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Al Jefferson isn't being traded.  Milsap maybe, Jefferson no way.

The Jazz have Kanter and Favors. Which one of these guys sits on the bench waiting for Jefferson to be moved?
Jefferson is definitely being shopped. He takes up too much cap space and stunts the development of the Jazz' new big duo.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 08:53:26 AM »

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We need to S&T Jeff Green and send Jermaine O'Neal to Utah in exchange for
Al Jefferson. Then we need to sign Tayshaun Prince.

After he's amnesty'd, we'll up pick Baron Davis.

We win!

 

wishful thinking.  why in the world would utah want green and o'neil and give away big al?!?!

stranger things have happened. I mean I don't think the Jazz would do it. But for arguments sake:

1)Jazz get a young swingman to run with Kanter and Favors, whilst getting JO's expiring contract.

2) I'm pretty sure Big Al is on about 12 million a year.
Getting Green at about 6.5 and JO at 6 million means they get the young guy and JO who can sit on the bench and come in and play a few minutes- he'd be very handy if they made the playoffs somehow.

Point is that JO comes off the books next year so they'd get Jeff Green and the extra cap room next year from JO, whilst getting rid of Al Jefferson's cap hogging contract that they have now fixed/filled with two younger studs. They'd rather spend the money on someone they need like a nice PG or SG.
If Jeff Green isn't fitting in they can move him but they'd try him for a while I think. Nice young core to build around.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 10:52:00 AM »

Offline Celtics4ever

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JO was a solid player.

Now he is an injury waiting to happen.

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 11:20:07 AM »

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We need to S&T Jeff Green and send Jermaine O'Neal to Utah in exchange for
Al Jefferson. Then we need to sign Tayshaun Prince.

After he's amnesty'd, we'll up pick Baron Davis.

We win!

 

wishful thinking.  why in the world would utah want green and o'neil and give away big al?!?!

stranger things have happened. I mean I don't think the Jazz would do it. But for arguments sake:

1)Jazz get a young swingman to run with Kanter and Favors, whilst getting JO's expiring contract.

2) I'm pretty sure Big Al is on about 12 million a year.
Getting Green at about 6.5 and JO at 6 million means they get the young guy and JO who can sit on the bench and come in and play a few minutes- he'd be very handy if they made the playoffs somehow.

Point is that JO comes off the books next year so they'd get Jeff Green and the extra cap room next year from JO, whilst getting rid of Al Jefferson's cap hogging contract that they have now fixed/filled with two younger studs. They'd rather spend the money on someone they need like a nice PG or SG.
If Jeff Green isn't fitting in they can move him but they'd try him for a while I think. Nice young core to build around.

Big Al is definitely on the block in Utah.Hes got a big contract and they are in total rebuilding mode. Big Al has proven on two terrible teams that he cant be a leader to get them out of the bottom, and the would good team he played for, the jazz, fell apart as soon as he arrived.

I dont want Big Al back as much as I used to like him. He can put points up on the board with his unorthidox scoring, but he cant play a lick of defense and isnt that great of a passer. On the defensive end he looks completely lost. He may look good on paper but he doesnt have the winners mentality needed to come back and help the Celtics win. Al will always be a stud putting up big numbers on bad teams.

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 11:32:20 AM »

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We need to S&T Jeff Green and send Jermaine O'Neal to Utah in exchange for
Al Jefferson. Then we need to sign Tayshaun Prince.

After he's amnesty'd, we'll up pick Baron Davis.

We win!

 

wishful thinking.  why in the world would utah want green and o'neil and give away big al?!?!

stranger things have happened. I mean I don't think the Jazz would do it. But for arguments sake:

1)Jazz get a young swingman to run with Kanter and Favors, whilst getting JO's expiring contract.

2) I'm pretty sure Big Al is on about 12 million a year.
Getting Green at about 6.5 and JO at 6 million means they get the young guy and JO who can sit on the bench and come in and play a few minutes- he'd be very handy if they made the playoffs somehow.

Point is that JO comes off the books next year so they'd get Jeff Green and the extra cap room next year from JO, whilst getting rid of Al Jefferson's cap hogging contract that they have now fixed/filled with two younger studs. They'd rather spend the money on someone they need like a nice PG or SG.
If Jeff Green isn't fitting in they can move him but they'd try him for a while I think. Nice young core to build around.

Big Al is definitely on the block in Utah.Hes got a big contract and they are in total rebuilding mode. Big Al has proven on two terrible teams that he cant be a leader to get them out of the bottom, and the would good team he played for, the jazz, fell apart as soon as he arrived.

I dont want Big Al back as much as I used to like him. He can put points up on the board with his unorthidox scoring, but he cant play a lick of defense and isnt that great of a passer. On the defensive end he looks completely lost. He may look good on paper but he doesnt have the winners mentality needed to come back and help the Celtics win. Al will always be a stud putting up big numbers on bad teams.

To be fair he has never been on a good team and Im not ready to say it was his fault those teams were bad. That being said, I completely agree with your assesment of his play. He is an elite low post scorer, average rebounder and below average everywhere else.






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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 11:42:54 AM »

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I think Utah definitely trades big Al for JO and Green. JO comes off the books after this season and with Green it gives them a future 5 of Kanter, Favors, Green, Burks, Harris. Plus trading Jefferson would give them cap space to go after CP3 or another PG.

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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2011, 11:45:18 AM »

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We need to S&T Jeff Green and send Jermaine O'Neal to Utah in exchange for
Al Jefferson. Then we need to sign Tayshaun Prince.

After he's amnesty'd, we'll up pick Baron Davis.

We win!

 

wishful thinking.  why in the world would utah want green and o'neil and give away big al?!?!

stranger things have happened. I mean I don't think the Jazz would do it. But for arguments sake:

1)Jazz get a young swingman to run with Kanter and Favors, whilst getting JO's expiring contract.

2) I'm pretty sure Big Al is on about 12 million a year.
Getting Green at about 6.5 and JO at 6 million means they get the young guy and JO who can sit on the bench and come in and play a few minutes- he'd be very handy if they made the playoffs somehow.

Point is that JO comes off the books next year so they'd get Jeff Green and the extra cap room next year from JO, whilst getting rid of Al Jefferson's cap hogging contract that they have now fixed/filled with two younger studs. They'd rather spend the money on someone they need like a nice PG or SG.
If Jeff Green isn't fitting in they can move him but they'd try him for a while I think. Nice young core to build around.

Big Al is definitely on the block in Utah.Hes got a big contract and they are in total rebuilding mode. Big Al has proven on two terrible teams that he cant be a leader to get them out of the bottom, and the would good team he played for, the jazz, fell apart as soon as he arrived.

I dont want Big Al back as much as I used to like him. He can put points up on the board with his unorthidox scoring, but he cant play a lick of defense and isnt that great of a passer. On the defensive end he looks completely lost. He may look good on paper but he doesnt have the winners mentality needed to come back and help the Celtics win. Al will always be a stud putting up big numbers on bad teams.

I can understand that line of thinking, but practically everybody said the same things about Zach Randolph, only they also said about Randolph that he was a crook / thug with a bad attitude. 

The right situation can make all the difference, as we saw with Randolph and the Grizzlies in the playoffs this summer.
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