Doc sends 4 plays to the NBA office for Review??? Game 1 - which ones

[RAcker]

You guys know the Cavs did this as well right?  Every team sends plays to the league after a playoff game for review

Was that you that threw the beer bottle last night?   

[bleedinggreen34]

We have been called for 25 more fouls through 2 games.  

The teams are pretty even in points in the paint (Cavs have a 4 point edge), so its not as if the Cavs are being the more aggressive team.  We're being as aggressive as they are and magically, we are not drawing nearly as many fouls  

[Chris]

We have been called for 25 more fouls through 2 games.  

The teams are pretty even in points in the paint (Cavs have a 4 point edge), so its not as if the Cavs are being the more aggressive team.  We're being as aggressive as they are and magically, we are not drawing nearly as many fouls  

I don't think those numbers really tell the story that you are trying to suggest they do.

Points in the paint does not mean they are getting fouled.  In fact, I would argue the opposite.  I would argue that the C's have been getting so many points in the paint because the Cavs have been playing such weak defense, and not fouling.  The C's on the other hand, have been hacking away any time the Cavs get the ball into the lane. 

[FallGuy]

We have been called for 25 more fouls through 2 games.  

The teams are pretty even in points in the paint (Cavs have a 4 point edge), so its not as if the Cavs are being the more aggressive team.  We're being as aggressive as they are and magically, we are not drawing nearly as many fouls  

I don't think those numbers really tell the story that you are trying to suggest they do.

Points in the paint does not mean they are getting fouled.  In fact, I would argue the opposite.  I would argue that the C's have been getting so many points in the paint because the Cavs have been playing such weak defense, and not fouling.  The C's on the other hand, have been hacking away any time the Cavs get the ball into the lane. 

Yeah, I think that's the problem with this approach. Or just listing the numbers of personal fouls. You've got an absence of context for the figures, particularly with respect to style of play on both sides. There's a guy in the post-game threads (KungFusomethingorother) who's been breaking down every single play objectively. He had the Cavs with a really serious advantage in game one, and the Celtics with an advantage in game two.

[Chris]

We have been called for 25 more fouls through 2 games.  

The teams are pretty even in points in the paint (Cavs have a 4 point edge), so its not as if the Cavs are being the more aggressive team.  We're being as aggressive as they are and magically, we are not drawing nearly as many fouls  

I don't think those numbers really tell the story that you are trying to suggest they do.

Points in the paint does not mean they are getting fouled.  In fact, I would argue the opposite.  I would argue that the C's have been getting so many points in the paint because the Cavs have been playing such weak defense, and not fouling.  The C's on the other hand, have been hacking away any time the Cavs get the ball into the lane. 

Yeah, I think that's the problem with this approach. Or just listing the numbers of personal fouls. You've got an absence of context for the figures, particularly with respect to style of play on both sides. There's a guy in the post-game threads (KungFusomethingorother) who's been breaking down every single play objectively. He had the Cavs with a really serious advantage in game one, and the Celtics with an advantage in game two.

That is how I saw it too...well, I don't think either team had a huge advantage in either game, but I did think game two went slightly more in the C's favor, since they let them be physical.

[Evantime34]

I don't think it's that they are getting away with a lot of fouls that aren't called. I think the number of fouls on them has been fairly accurate. However, the fouls we commit are being called too liberally.

All I ask is for an even distribution.

[Chris]

All I ask is for an even distribution.

An even distribution is not equality though.  What they should be asking for is consistent interpretations of the rules for both teams.  And I don't think it has been that far off (well, I think in game one, they were incredibly inconsistent, but I don't think it was biased towards either team).