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Offline screwedupmaniac

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http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -2.0 ppg, +4.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.

Incoming Players
  Ray Allen
6-5 SG from Connecticut
16.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.7 apg in 36.7 minutes 
  Kendrick Perkins
6-10 C from Clifton J. Ozen (HS)
11.4 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 28.6 minutes 

Outgoing Players
  Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
20.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.7 apg in 36.3 minutes
  Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
8.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 20.3 minutes
  Francisco Garcia
6-7 SG / SF from Louisville
No games yet played in 2009-2010
 
Boston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.7 ppg, -3.4 rpg, and +0.5 apg.

Incoming Players
  Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
20.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.7 apg in 36.3 minutes 
  Francisco Garcia
6-7 SG / SF from Louisville
No games yet played in 2009-2010 
  Tyson Chandler
7-1 C from Dominguez (HS)
6.5 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 25.1 minutes 
  D.J. Augustin
6-0 PG from Texas
5.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 17.8 minutes 

Outgoing Players
  Ray Allen
6-5 SG from Connecticut
16.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.7 apg in 36.7 minutes
  Rasheed Wallace
6-11 PF / C from North Carolina
10.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.7 minutes
  Kendrick Perkins
6-10 C from Clifton J. Ozen (HS)
11.4 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 28.6 minutes
 
Charlotte Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +6.7 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

Incoming Players
  Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
8.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 20.3 minutes 
  Rasheed Wallace
6-11 PF / C from North Carolina
10.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.7 minutes 

Outgoing Players
  Tyson Chandler
7-1 C from Dominguez (HS)
6.5 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 25.1 minutes
  D.J. Augustin
6-0 PG from Texas
5.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 17.8 minutes


The reasoning for each team?

For Sacramento: They move their two worst contracts, while getting back a $17 million expiring contract who just happens to be the best shooter in the NBA, and the big man that they've been looking for in Perk. Their team also gets much deeper and smarter with veterans Perk and Allen.

Sacramento lineup:
Tyreke Evans/Beno Udrih/Sergio Rodriquez
Ray Allen/Donte Greene/Ime Udoka
Omri Casspi/Donte Greene/Ime Udoka
Jason Thompson/Sean May/Kenny Thomas
Kendrick Perkins/Spencer Hawes/Hilton Armstrong


For Boston: They get younger fast. The Celtics trade away their aging veterans, and get their shooting guard of the future to put next to Rondo, as well as Rondo's backup in DJ.

Tyson Chandler and Francisco Garcia's contracts are the worst part of this deal. However:

1) Tyson only has one year left on his gaudy contract, and we've seen how well he is capable of playing with a top notch PG with the Hornets. Rondo would be the best thing to happen to Chandler in a while.

2) Francisco Garcia is returning from a wrist injury very soon, and has proven himself to be a very capable role player who is capable of starting whenever Pierce is injured/retires. His defense is suspect, but so was Ray's and Paul's before Coach Thibs and KG came around. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Francisco-Garcia-123/

Boston lineup:
Rondo/Augustine/House
Martin/T Allen/Daniels
Pierce/Garcia/Daniels
KG/Davis/Williams
Chandler/Davis/Williams

For Charlotte: Larry brown has always prefered veteran experience over youthful but inexperienced raw talent. That said, he gets Sheed back on the same team as him, as well as a smart and versatile defender and shooter in Nocioni. Charlotte gets much smarter with more veteran leadership. Charlotte's lineup is quite versatile, and can run a very small or very big lineup.

Charlotte lineup:
Raymond Felton/Flip Murray/Acie Law
Stephen Jackson/Flip Murray/Acie Law
Gerald Wallace/Stephen Jackson/Boris Diaw
Rasheed Wallace/Boris Diaw/Diop
Nazr Mohammed/Rasheed Wallace/Diop

Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 03:32:21 PM »

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People are so greedy.

The Kings are looking for much better talent than Ray in  Martin trade and you think we could net augustine, chandler, and garcia too? Who solves our lack of height and length off the bench? You Reeeeeally.... Reeeeeeallly want Baby playing center?! He already gets 25% of his shots blocked... He's a 6 7 300 pound bench man and you want him at back up center?

Chandler instantly takes 5 wins off this teams record. And youre willing to give up Perkins in this deal as well???

I really don't even know what to say anymore.

Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 03:54:17 PM »

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People are so greedy.

The Kings are looking for much better talent than Ray in  Martin trade and you think we could net augustine, chandler, and garcia too? Who solves our lack of height and length off the bench? You Reeeeeally.... Reeeeeeallly want Baby playing center?! He already gets 25% of his shots blocked... He's a 6 7 300 pound bench man and you want him at back up center?

Chandler instantly takes 5 wins off this teams record. And youre willing to give up Perkins in this deal as well???

I really don't even know what to say anymore.

This is not even close to the worst trade I've read

Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 04:07:45 PM »

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Remember that we need to get bye Shaq and Howard in the playoffs, and I am not Chandler helps us there.
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Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 04:11:21 PM »

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Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 04:34:34 PM »

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Perk for Chandler?  Awful, just awful.
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Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »

Offline screwedupmaniac

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Listen, I'm just putting together combinations of rumors that have been floating around the past few weeks. Supposedly, the Kings want cap relief, and the Bobcats want veterans.

Honestly, if I could have it my way, I wouldn't trade Ray (or Perk for that matter), and this trade idea is a good summary of why I wouldn't. We will never get back the value we want in a Ray Allen trade unless we give up Perk or Rondo, and that is not happening. As a result, no other teams will be getting the value they want out of a Ray trade either.

The only Ray trade that has a chance of happening is the Bulls one, and we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we make that trade.

I've seen far worse trade ideas floating around that have us getting Martin and Nocioni for Ray straight up. Like Sactown is gonna actually do any of these trade ideas! If we make a major move evolving around Ray Allen this year, it instantly destroys any chance we have left at a title this year.

Re: BOS-CHA-SAC trade idea that covers the rumored wants/needs of every team
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 04:37:24 PM »

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oops, double submitted last post. sorry