Chris Sheridan trying to stir something up....

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Wilson Chandler isn't all that good. He's not worth taking Jeffries contract.

I disagree, considering the Cs will not have any cap space next year anyway. But I'm not the one who'd be paying him.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Jared Jeffries is a complete stiff.  I would not trade for him under any circulstances. Not even for Scalabrine.

Agree with this 100%.  I've said it many times before that Jeffries is one of the few players in the league NOT better than Scalabrine.

That's all pure hyperbole. Jeffries is far and away the plus/minus leader for the Knicks, at +11. Gallinari is second a -2. New York is 15-19 with Jared as a starter, 19-30 with Chandler, Harrington, or whoever else taking his place.

But don't just take my word for it:

But eventually we started watching Jared Jeffries. Once that started, I never did anything else. It was natural - to watch Jeffries was to understand the Knicks' entire defense, and most of the Bobcats' offense.

Jeffries guarded various different Bobcats, but more than anything he was empowered to roam wherever the action was, and did. If the Bobcats were shooting, the uber-long Jeffries was there, annoying the shooter.

And he has a crazy knack for it. If the Bobcats missed, or turned it over, Jeffries always seemed to be there, sometimes even reaching all the way around his own teammates who had better position but were nonetheless less effective. It was almost comical how he starred in nearly every good thing New York did on defense, and made things very difficult for the Bobcats' offense, but almost never earned a statistic. 10 rebounds, six points, two blocks and a steal, isn't bad, but it's nothing compared to what he did. In fairness, you should probably triple his steal and block numbers.

EDIT - And everybody has already forgotten Jeffries guarding Rondo into a 1-8 performance in 100-88 loss to the Knicks last season. I'd love to see Scalabrine do that.

[Chris]

Jared Jeffries is a complete stiff.  I would not trade for him under any circulstances. Not even for Scalabrine.

Agree with this 100%.  I've said it many times before that Jeffries is one of the few players in the league NOT better than Scalabrine.

That's all pure hyperbole. Jeffries is far and away the plus/minus leader for the Knicks, at +11. Gallinari is second a -2. New York is 15-19 with Jared as a starter, 19-30 with Chandler, Harrington, or whoever else taking his place.

But don't just take my word for it:

But eventually we started watching Jared Jeffries. Once that started, I never did anything else. It was natural - to watch Jeffries was to understand the Knicks' entire defense, and most of the Bobcats' offense.

Jeffries guarded various different Bobcats, but more than anything he was empowered to roam wherever the action was, and did. If the Bobcats were shooting, the uber-long Jeffries was there, annoying the shooter.

And he has a crazy knack for it. If the Bobcats missed, or turned it over, Jeffries always seemed to be there, sometimes even reaching all the way around his own teammates who had better position but were nonetheless less effective. It was almost comical how he starred in nearly every good thing New York did on defense, and made things very difficult for the Bobcats' offense, but almost never earned a statistic. 10 rebounds, six points, two blocks and a steal, isn't bad, but it's nothing compared to what he did. In fairness, you should probably triple his steal and block numbers.

I am not a fan of those stats, but I agree that Jeffries is not completely useless.  I don't think he would be a real positive, and he is certainly overpaid, but he can do somethings to help a team.

I think he is basically their Scal.  He is a good defender against certain matchups, is generally smart, and understands where to be.  But he also is pretty close to useless offensively, and has a major stigma on him from being so grossly overpaid.

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Jared Jeffries is a complete stiff.  I would not trade for him under any circulstances. Not even for Scalabrine.

Agree with this 100%.  I've said it many times before that Jeffries is one of the few players in the league NOT better than Scalabrine.

That's all pure hyperbole. Jeffries is far and away the plus/minus leader for the Knicks, at +11. Gallinari is second a -2. New York is 15-19 with Jared as a starter, 19-30 with Chandler, Harrington, or whoever else taking his place.

But don't just take my word for it:

But eventually we started watching Jared Jeffries. Once that started, I never did anything else. It was natural - to watch Jeffries was to understand the Knicks' entire defense, and most of the Bobcats' offense.

Jeffries guarded various different Bobcats, but more than anything he was empowered to roam wherever the action was, and did. If the Bobcats were shooting, the uber-long Jeffries was there, annoying the shooter.

And he has a crazy knack for it. If the Bobcats missed, or turned it over, Jeffries always seemed to be there, sometimes even reaching all the way around his own teammates who had better position but were nonetheless less effective. It was almost comical how he starred in nearly every good thing New York did on defense, and made things very difficult for the Bobcats' offense, but almost never earned a statistic. 10 rebounds, six points, two blocks and a steal, isn't bad, but it's nothing compared to what he did. In fairness, you should probably triple his steal and block numbers.

I am not a fan of those stats, but I agree that Jeffries is not completely useless.  I don't think he would be a real positive, and he is certainly overpaid, but he can do somethings to help a team.

I think he is basically their Scal.  He is a good defender against certain matchups, is generally smart, and understands where to be.  But he also is pretty close to useless offensively, and has a major stigma on him from being so grossly overpaid.

All true, but none of which accounts for the fact that he is a major turning point in the Knicks offseason plans considering they need the 7mil they owe him next year so desparately if they hope to land one of the major FAs this summer. Without enough space to add more players, one of those boys won't be walkin' thru that door.

So part of me wants to take advantage of that, and part of me wants to let them wallow in it.

[The Walker Wiggle]

So part of me wants to take advantage of that, and part of me wants to let them wallow in it.

Totally understandable. I just find others' Scalabrine comparisons way off base. Even adjusted for playing time and pace let's see Brian average over a steal and a block a game.

[gpap]

I think he is just trying to needle C's fans with his latest comment.  Please note that he even says its purely hypothetical, and not based on any inside info.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30741

Question for Celtics fans (and I am only posing this purely hypothetical question because I saw Rasheed's agent, Bill Strickland, chatting with Donnie Walsh at MSG the other night.) If you were Danny Ainge, would you trade Rasheed and Marquis Daniels to the Knicks for Nate Robinson, Jared Jeffries and Jordan Hill?

I mean, would any C's fan say no to that deal?  I know I wouldn't, and I am a Wallace apologist, and despise Robinson.

What?!!!!!!!! You call this a trade?! And how would this benefit us? NO THANKS!! This is the worse trade I've ever heard.

[winsomme]

how about this:

BOS gets

Chandler
Curry
Lee
Harrington

NYK gets:

Ray
Rasheed
2012 First Rounder

Rondo/House
Chandler/Daniels
Paul/Harrington
KG/Lee
Perk/Baby/Curry

[connerhenry43]

i do not think i would say no to any trade right now that had the word "rasheed" involved. i would say yes before the other gm was done. it is like if i ran the pats, the trade would be done as soon as anyone mentioned the word "adalius".

[winsomme]

or:

BOS gets

Chandler
Lee
Curry
Nate Rob

NYK gets

Ray
Big Baby

Rondo/Nate Rob
Chandler/House
Paul/Daniels
KG/Lee
Perk/Sheed/Curry

[snively]

As bad as Sheed has been this year, you can't trade him without getting a rotation quality 4/5 in return. 

[Cman]

I think he is just trying to needle C's fans with his latest comment.  Please note that he even says its purely hypothetical, and not based on any inside info.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30741

Question for Celtics fans (and I am only posing this purely hypothetical question because I saw Rasheed's agent, Bill Strickland, chatting with Donnie Walsh at MSG the other night.) If you were Danny Ainge, would you trade Rasheed and Marquis Daniels to the Knicks for Nate Robinson, Jared Jeffries and Jordan Hill?

I mean, would any C's fan say no to that deal?  I know I wouldn't, and I am a Wallace apologist, and despise Robinson.

That has got to be the most ridiculously one sided trade I have ever seen, and, like the OP, I am a Rasheed apologist.