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This is from earlier today

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/02/03/ainge-on-the-big-show-pierce-allen-rondo/
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Celtics President of Basketball Operations Danny Ainge went on the Big Show on Wednesday afternoon to discuss the state of the Celtics. Ainge dismissed as gross rumors any reports that the foot injury to Paul Pierce will keep the forward sidelined for anything more than a matter of days, said that he has not talked to any other clubs about a trade of Ray Allen, and addressed the recent comments of Rajon Rondo that there are “agendas maybe creeping in” that have affected the team negatively.

Does Paul Pierce have a broken foot?

What would be our motivation to say that he has a sprained foot if in fact his foot is broken? This is the same question we had last year. Why would we be hiding the rumors that were coming out that [Kevin Garnett] having a torn ACL? Why would we say that? What would be our motivation? I don’t get it.

You’re saying there is no broken foot?

There is no broken foot. He’s got a sprained mid-foot. The only question for us now is when are we going to play Paul. Are we going to give him two days off, four days off, six days off or try to give him four games before the All-Star break? Probably more than healing the foot but to heal everything and just let his body rest. Seriously you guys, I get these questions all day long and I don’t understand what would be our motivation trying to tell you something that is not there in regard to a broken foot or a sprained foot.

You seem miffed about the report of Pierce’s foot being broken.

It’s just premature, we were all worried about Paul and what might be wrong with him. I kept telling everybody that called to ask that we will know more tonight. Dr. McKeon hasn’t even had a chance to look at the guy’s foot or look over all the things.

Was the press release put out last night to head the information off at the pass?

Yeah, there was just to many people that were trying to find and speculating, and too many sources out there. I don’t even know who these sources are but it’s incredible.

How severe is the injury?

I believe what I’m dealing with today if it were a playoff game then Paul would be playing. He’d be playing tonight if it were a playoff game. Our situation with Paul right now is you know our questions with Paul of when he comes back to play is his overall health, his overall body health. Paul was contemplating on playing today and I’m trying to talk him out of playing, so is Doc and just resting and trying to get his body some rest right now, as we have a week off here shortly. But I’m not concerned about the foot. That’s been put to rest.

What about Rajon Rondo’s quotes today about different agendas among the members of the team?

First of all I think that does exist. The year that we won the championship was very special and very unique. With the great teams I’ve had a chance to play on I’ve never seen a team that was more focused and had better chemistry on and off the court. There was no agendas, and I think it had to do with the three stars coming from such difficult situations with great new hope and energy. We had young players, it was a perfect situation, a perfect storm. These guys the next year we start out 29-2 and we still weren’t playing as great as we could have been playing and there was little bit of rumbling that last year. This year I think there has been a little bit of that. I still think it has more to do with, what Rondo was saying, it’s just the attitude and is that a priority for each player to win a championship. That what I think he is referring to. If nothing else mattered, to making All-Star teams, to future contracts, to how many minutes I’m playing, how many shots I’m getting. Do those things matter or is the only thing that matters winning an NBA Championship for every single guy, and even the 10th, 11th and 12th guys matter in attitude and character. I think that those things can creep in. I’m confident that we can get to that point this year. If Rondo addressing it, and [Kendrick Perkins] talking about it and Paul talking about it a little bit, although I love Paul’s comment on having the answers to the test we just have to do it. I love KG’s approach where KG just simply says, “I have to get better. I have to rebound better. I have to be smarter. I have to execute better.” I love the answers from our veterans who take responsibility and put it on themselves.

Are you unhappy with how Rondo handled this, or was this an example of leadership?

I don’t think that’s leadership. … I think leadership is how KG and Paul handled it. … Even though it may be true, that’s what all of a sudden brings speculation.

Will you talk to him about the comments?

Both Doc and I talked with Rondo about it today. I wouldn’t say that’s that big of a deal. … I don’t think it’s that harmful except that it leads to speculation about who are they talking about, which players?

Given the rumors about the possibility of a deal involving Ray Allen, can you say whether you will or will not be trading him?

I had a good conversation with Ray Allen yesterday and his wife. They know the business. They know where we are, and they know where we stand. … I was very upfront and honest. …

I think it’s unlikely. I think it’s unlikely that we do a deal that benefits our team, to win a championship now and helps us in the future. Right now, our choice is that we’re trying to win a championship now. …

We want Ray. We think Ray is a huge part of our winning a championship this year. …

Can you say definitively that you won’t trade him?

I did not say that [the Celtics won't trade Allen], and I didn’t say that to him. I think it’s unlikely. …

He had some questions to ask. I just think there’s so much out there, that now Ray can be capable of being able to discern what’s true and what’s not true, rather than all the crazy rumors out there.

Have you had any conversations with other teams about a deal involving Allen?

No. I have not. That doesn’t mean that I won’t, or that I won’t listen to what other people have to say, but we have not been anywhere near or had any discussion, I have not had a discussions with another team about trading Ray Allen.

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I don't know about PP's foot. Danny says why would we hide the fact that PP has a broken foot, but they did that exact thing last year with KG saying if it were the playoffs KG would be playing, but when the playoffs came around he wasnt.

Most likely he is telling the truth though. I think...
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Re: Danny on" The Big Show" talking about PP, Rondo + Ray
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A note on GM talk:

When Danny asserts that he didn't have a conversation with another team, it doesn't mean that his staff didn't as well.

Got to ask the right question...

Re: Danny on" The Big Show" talking about PP, Rondo + Ray
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Thanks for posting. Seems like Ray got flustered with the trade talk if Danny had to meet with him and his wife. Or Danny is just an understanding guy and extended that gesture.

And in regards to the KG injury last year, I really think his lack of improvement was a huge surprise to the team. They didn't think it was that bad of an injury and that showed when they tried to bring him back for a few games and then shut him down again.

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Considering Danny had a chat with Ray and his wife, I'd say the Cs openness to dealing him is more real than I'd thought. You wonder whether they're holding out for a Martin deal.
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"Unlikely".  That's the word.

Possible translation:

"I've had some conversations with other teams and indicated that we would gladly trade you for the other team's best young player, several 1st round picks, and the other owner's daughter.  We're waiting for a call back."

Danny clearly values and respects Ray, and probably there were conversations to gauge his trade value, and nobody was jumping at Danny's price.  It's possible that may change at the deadline and some team may go for it, but it's "unlikely".

Further complicating matters, and making a trade less likely, Houston is probably doing the same thing with T-Mac's contract, which I believe is bigger than Ray's, so we aren't the only team that will be bidding at the fire sale...and Danny won't overbid or take any crap he doesn't want.  He'd probably do a minor deal instead, and keep Ray on a cheaper 6th man deal next year.  Houston will not do that, they're dealing this year, more than likely.


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I wonder if Danny told Ray that IF he were dealt and IF a boatload of cash went to the other team in the deal and IF Ray were to negotiate a buyout then he would of course be welcomed back to Boston so his family wouldn't have to move

Wink, wink

We never had this conversation

Wink, wink
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how the hell do u sprain your "midfoot"???

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how the hell do u sprain your "midfoot"???
You foot has a ton of bones in it, with a lot of ligaments conecting them all together.

If you torque your foot by falling on it, (or having another fall on it) you can sprain those ligaments without damaging the bones.

Google it and they provide plenty of examples. Ballet Dancers frequently suffer midfoot sprains for example because of how their foot positions while dancing/practicing.

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This is from earlier today

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/02/03/ainge-on-the-big-show-pierce-allen-rondo/
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By Tom Layman

Celtics President of Basketball Operations Danny Ainge went on the Big Show on Wednesday afternoon to discuss the state of the Celtics.

Are you unhappy with how Rondo handled this, or was this an example of leadership?

I don’t think that’s leadership. … I think leadership is how KG and Paul handled it.


Ditto. Well said.

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This is from earlier today

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/02/03/ainge-on-the-big-show-pierce-allen-rondo/
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By Tom Layman

Celtics President of Basketball Operations Danny Ainge went on the Big Show on Wednesday afternoon to discuss the state of the Celtics.

Are you unhappy with how Rondo handled this, or was this an example of leadership?

I don’t think that’s leadership. … I think leadership is how KG and Paul handled it.


Ditto. Well said.

  He's comparing a 23 year old to two players that are nearing the end of their careers, though. I'd say that Rondo is more of a leader than Pierce was at Rondo's age, or even when Paul was a few years older.
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A note on GM talk:

When Danny asserts that he didn't have a conversation with another team, it doesn't mean that his staff didn't as well.

Got to ask the right question...

In fact, with an established player like Ray you could assume they'd take precautions of deniability until something has really progressed.

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This is from earlier today

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/02/03/ainge-on-the-big-show-pierce-allen-rondo/
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By Tom Layman

Celtics President of Basketball Operations Danny Ainge went on the Big Show on Wednesday afternoon to discuss the state of the Celtics.

Are you unhappy with how Rondo handled this, or was this an example of leadership?

I don’t think that’s leadership. … I think leadership is how KG and Paul handled it.


Ditto. Well said.

  He's comparing a 23 year old to two players that are nearing the end of their careers, though. I'd say that Rondo is more of a leader than Pierce was at Rondo's age, or even when Paul was a few years older.

i think a PG, much like a QB, has to be a leader to some extent, whether he is a rookie, or a 10 year vet. what rondo said was not so bad, but you do have to wonder why guys say things in the press as opposed to addressing it in the locker room with coaches and/or teammates.

but again, what he said was not awful. he played amazing last night. that dish to perk on the fast break (after the fake kick-out to ray) was on of the best plays of the season.
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how the hell do u sprain your "midfoot"???
You foot has a ton of bones in it, with a lot of ligaments conecting them all together.

If you torque your foot by falling on it, (or having another fall on it) you can sprain those ligaments without damaging the bones.

Google it and they provide plenty of examples. Ballet Dancers frequently suffer midfoot sprains for example because of how their foot positions while dancing/practicing.
Had it before, it's really irritating because you feel it but can't really place the pain. It's a throbbing pain though, so easier to block out when you don't aggravate it.