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Pre-Season Game 1 Observations
« on: October 08, 2009, 12:55:14 PM »

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A brief summation and observation of pluses and minuses from last night's game ... please feel free to critique or add your own comments or assessments. I think we have a very exciting season on the way ... let's pray everyone stays healthy, (crosses fingers once again), and the officials work out an agreement with the league.


KG + : Moved well, seemingly free of any limp or favoritism; nailed his favorite 18-foot shot right out of the box; defense was awesome with 2 steals and denying the post; was "himself" physically and mentally, playing relaxed and fluid, and being "Coach Garnett" from the bench.
KG - : Not 100% yet, but not expected to be anyway; hoped to see him a few more than 5 minutes in the second half, and was questioning why he was pulled a bit earlier than what Doc had stated.
 
Pierce + : Did what he does best: creating fouls going to the basket; defense was decent and good inside passing to set up teammates; looked to be in great shape physically.
Pierce - : Was very quiet offensively - if there was one standout disappointment, it was that Paul did not seem to be himself, but with few minutes played, it's not a worry.
 
Ray Allen + : Obviously in great shape, moving quickly and smoothly off picks, looking for his shot, and passing very well; confidence is very high, shooting stroke is fluid and his chemistry with the other starters seems to be better than ever.
Ray Allen - : Honestly can't remember anything negative that stood out about Ray.
 
Rondo + : Looked very good physically, mentally confident and in-sync with the other starters; got to the basket easily when he made the decision to do so; was very effective defensively.
Rondo - : Seemed hesitant to look for his shot; didn't look to drive the lane as much as he could, (when he sets his mind to it, he can get to the hoop anytime he wants); has got to improve his foul shooting.
 
Perk + : Has lost weight and looks great; seems to be in the best shape of his career; moving quicker, running the floor on the break at times, and posting-up faster; some great defensive moves and blocks and looking for his shot; seems to be a more cohesive part of the starting five.
Perk - : Not much negative, but he's got to stop showing the ball to the defender and dribbling before his shot - teams are just waiting for this.
 
Sheed + : This was hard for me, because I've never liked this guy, but I think he's going to be a great fit for this team; played very well at both ends, looked to be in good shape, and was stroking his shot well; set up some great passes and was a force defensively.
Sheed - : Technical foul - his mouth has always been his biggest detriment, and he's got to be more conscious of it on this team; seemed to be a bit confused with the plays at times, but hey - it's only October.
 
Big Baby + : Has lost a great deal of weight, (maybe 40+?), and looks to be in great shape; had some nice post moves and good defensive presence; nice interior passing and more team-conscious.
Big Baby - : Still tries to do too much at times, but that will come with maturity; needs to look for his shot more and get to the line; his role is still a bit "undefined" ... but that's not really up to him.
 
House + : Eddie did not surprise or disappoint tonight, but came in and did what he usually does; seems to be in good shape and knows what his role is, despite the new additions; adapts well and always works hard.
House - : I'd like to see Eddie get to the hoop more and be a bit more defensively-minded.
 
Scal + : Brian looked to be in good shape also, and seemed to work well with the new players.
Scal - : Seems to focus on just staying on the perimeter, and I think he could be more effective inside.
 
Daniels + : Was voted "Player of the Game"; already seems to know and accept his role on this team, and seems fairly comfortable with it; is very athletic and moves extremely well on offense and defense; good passer and good shooting stroke; sees the whole floor very well and looks to reward his teammates; going to be a great fit for this team.
Daniels - : A bit unsure of the plays, (understandably), and somewhat hesitant to shoot, which will come with time; needs to get to the hoop more often.

Williams + : Seemed a bit tentative on offense, but defensively was a force, with 5 rebounds in 18 minutes; looked like he was fairly comfortable with the play calling and rotation.
Williams - : Would have liked to see more offense from him and more conscious of where his teammates are on the floor.

Hudson + : Did a great job creating offense and getting to the stripe, reminds me of Dee Brown/Reggie Lewis; very athletic and a high-flyer; excited to see more of this kid.
Hudson - : Rookie hesitancies, (understandably), and seemed to be a bit over-confident at times and reluctant to pass the ball.

Giddens + :Very athletic and fast, this kid can get to the hoop any time he wants to.
Giddens - : Struggled on both ends, seemed to lack confidence and knowledge of the plays; head was not in the game ... first-night jitters?

Sweetney + : I was amazed at how he moved for such a massive frame ... quick feet and uses his body well; was high-scorer, and really a nice surprise; I love guys who make the most of small opportunities, (doesn't stand much chance of sticking around here).
Sweetney - : Obviously needs to get in better shape, look to pass more and more aware on defense.

Team + : The starting five were very much in-sync in the first quarter, running plays smoothly and staying loose; Looked good at both ends of the floor in first half, great interior passing and communication; in the best physical shape since the "Big Three" have been together; nine steals and seven blocked shots - not bad; bench was really a pleasant surprise, and played much better than I expected ... this team is DEEP!
Team - : LOST GAME, (I know - no big deal - but I still look for the "win" mentality, even in the off-season); foul shooting was horrible - missed 20 shots from the stripe, which is inexcusable; far too many turnovers, (18), this plagued them last year and they've got to take care of the ball more; would like to see more assists, but that will come with time; whole team struggled in second half, look to be more consistent. 

Biggest "plus": KG is back! He's moving well, in high spirits and seems to be his old self, (speculation now ends). I was very pleased overall, despite the loss ... they're in such great shape physically and most of the bench got minutes. I would have liked to have seen Walker with these new additions, but that and Pierce's quiet performance were the only standouts for me, (and I'm not worried about Paul at all). The replacement refs did a good job in the first half, then completely fell apart, with a slew of bad calls toward the end of the game. All-in-all I think it can be summed up as very positive, and I'm extremely optimistic about this season with what I saw last night. Overall grade? Personally I think about a B+ ... and that to me is better than expected for the first game of the year ... can't wait for the next few games to see how things develop! What grade would you give the team after last night's performance? GO CELTS!    
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Re: Pre-Season Game 1 Observations
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 12:56:15 PM »

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TP....well done bahku!

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Nice synopsis.  TP

I notice Perk worked on his post moves and seems in great shape too.

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2009, 01:54:36 PM »

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TP bahku, hit pretty much exactly what i took out of it.  :D
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Nice synopsis.  TP

I notice Perk worked on his post moves and seems in great shape too.

Yeah ... VERY good shape ... and he's hustling down the floor on the break ... I loved it when he was the first Celtic down the floor, attacked the basket with a drive, and got the foul call ... I was thinking: "Is THAT Perk?!?" Great to see the improved mobility from the big guy! (TP)
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Re: Pre-Season Game 1 Observations
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Good list. I would add to that the rotations that Doc utilized which where a little interesting. He might have been just experimenting, but I think he may be thinking along these lines.

First he took out Perk very early in the 1st and 3rd quarters to bring in Sheed in order to play together with KG. While part of it was due to the fact that KG was only playing the first few minutes of the 1st/3rd quarters and Doc wanted to play them together for a few minutes, I think this is a strategy that he will utilize in the regular season as well. Probably not take Perk out just 4 minutes in, but maybe with 5-6 minutes left in the quarter and then bring him back earlier in the 2nd/4th quarters.

The 2nd observation was with Rondo. Doc also took Rondo out early in the first quarter and then brought him back in later in the first quarter when it was pretty much the 2nd unit. I think the strategy of having House play more with the starters as a "pg" and Rondo lead the 2nd unit is a good idea. I like what Cleveland does with Mo Williams - takes him out with 6 minutes left in the 1st quarter and then brings him back in at the start of the 2nd quarter and same thing in the 2nd half. During the time when House is playing with the starters, we can have Pierce playing point forward like he likes to do for portions of a game and dominate the ball for a little bit.

Having House/Sheed in the game, along with Allen/KG, will give Pierce plenty of room to do some damage. On the other hand, having Rondo come out early and come back in to play with the 2nd unit will keep the 2nd unit more organized and provide a smoother transition between the 1st unit and the 2nd unit.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2009, 05:17:02 PM »

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Good list. I would add to that the rotations that Doc utilized which where a little interesting. He might have been just experimenting, but I think he may be thinking along these lines.

First he took out Perk very early in the 1st and 3rd quarters to bring in Sheed in order to play together with KG. While part of it was due to the fact that KG was only playing the first few minutes of the 1st/3rd quarters and Doc wanted to play them together for a few minutes, I think this is a strategy that he will utilize in the regular season as well. Probably not take Perk out just 4 minutes in, but maybe with 5-6 minutes left in the quarter and then bring him back earlier in the 2nd/4th quarters.

The 2nd observation was with Rondo. Doc also took Rondo out early in the first quarter and then brought him back in later in the first quarter when it was pretty much the 2nd unit. I think the strategy of having House play more with the starters as a "pg" and Rondo lead the 2nd unit is a good idea. I like what Cleveland does with Mo Williams - takes him out with 6 minutes left in the 1st quarter and then brings him back in at the start of the 2nd quarter and same thing in the 2nd half. During the time when House is playing with the starters, we can have Pierce playing point forward like he likes to do for portions of a game and dominate the ball for a little bit.

Having House/Sheed in the game, along with Allen/KG, will give Pierce plenty of room to do some damage. On the other hand, having Rondo come out early and come back in to play with the 2nd unit will keep the 2nd unit more organized and provide a smoother transition between the 1st unit and the 2nd unit.

Yeah ... really good observations (TP) ... I was a bit surprised with KG and Sheed in at the same time, (just didn't think it would happen so soon), but the more I see it and think about it, the more I like it. With those two on the floor at the same time, they can pretty much clear any lane they want, and let Pierce and Rondo drive to the basket at will. I LOVE that this bench is so deep ... can't wait for Friday!
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2009, 07:22:49 PM »

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Good list. I would add to that the rotations that Doc utilized which where a little interesting. He might have been just experimenting, but I think he may be thinking along these lines.

First he took out Perk very early in the 1st and 3rd quarters to bring in Sheed in order to play together with KG. While part of it was due to the fact that KG was only playing the first few minutes of the 1st/3rd quarters and Doc wanted to play them together for a few minutes, I think this is a strategy that he will utilize in the regular season as well. Probably not take Perk out just 4 minutes in, but maybe with 5-6 minutes left in the quarter and then bring him back earlier in the 2nd/4th quarters.

The 2nd observation was with Rondo. Doc also took Rondo out early in the first quarter and then brought him back in later in the first quarter when it was pretty much the 2nd unit. I think the strategy of having House play more with the starters as a "pg" and Rondo lead the 2nd unit is a good idea. I like what Cleveland does with Mo Williams - takes him out with 6 minutes left in the 1st quarter and then brings him back in at the start of the 2nd quarter and same thing in the 2nd half. During the time when House is playing with the starters, we can have Pierce playing point forward like he likes to do for portions of a game and dominate the ball for a little bit.

Having House/Sheed in the game, along with Allen/KG, will give Pierce plenty of room to do some damage. On the other hand, having Rondo come out early and come back in to play with the 2nd unit will keep the 2nd unit more organized and provide a smoother transition between the 1st unit and the 2nd unit.

Not sure I'm crazy about the Rondo idea, though ... having him with the 2nd unit from time-to-time is fine, but he needs to be the guy running this team when the starters are out there. Eddie just does not possess the speed or energy or "floor-sight" to get the starting unit on the up-tempo game consistently. Rage is the key to this team's success, and when the Big Four are on the floor, he needs to be the one bringing the ball down and setting up the offense. Don't get me wrong, I love Eddie ... few work harder than he does, but he is just not effective as a starting point guard, and is very happy in the role he already has.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 07:26:22 PM »

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Add that Perk still fouls waaaay to much at times and I'm with you on the rest.

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2009, 08:15:32 PM »

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Add that Perk still fouls waaaay to much at times and I'm with you on the rest.

Yup ... you're right, but he's also one of those guys that the refs are looking for. Whether it's his glare or his history, they definitely blow the whistle on him much more than he deserves. The officiating was fine in the first half last night, but the second half was atrocious! Perk had some clean blocks that were quickly called fouls ... guess he needs to be extra careful for that reason, but the fact remains that the refs single some players out, and Perk has often been one of those. I had hoped it wouldn't be that way last night for the simple fact that these refs have no history with the players, but they still seemed to be picking on Perk just a bit too much.
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It bothered me that Aaron Brooks was much quicker than Rondo last night. I don't know if Brooks got quicker or Rondo got slower with the added muscle, but it worries me either way. All in all Rondo seemed a lot less explosive and got blocked at the rim a few times.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

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It bothered me that Aaron Brooks was much quicker than Rondo last night. I don't know if Brooks got quicker or Rondo got slower with the added muscle, but it worries me either way. All in all Rondo seemed a lot less explosive and got blocked at the rim a few times.

Yes ... and as I recall, Brooks seemed to have Rajon's "number" last year, too. I'm not sure if it's something personal between them or not, but there's something extra going on there, as I don't really think that Brooks is that much better than Rondo ... more experienced, maybe.
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