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Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2009, 11:13:42 AM »

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Eddie House has a player option and he could only be dealt after he accepts the option, I believe. If he feels he is going to accept the offer but be dealt somewhere he may not want to be, he might choose free agency and the ability to choose where to play over accepting the option and having no say in the matter. Considering he has  a child, that might be a factor.

Just saying.

Other than that, if we aren't including Ray, Rondo, or Perk in any trade this off season, expect very little back unless its through a sign and trade for Leon.

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Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2009, 11:19:41 AM »

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What about Taysaun Prince for Scal, House and TA? The salaries match and I think he would be a perfect fit as our 6th man.


Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2009, 11:25:27 AM »

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I'd be up for a Tony, Scal, and Pruitt and a boatload of cash going to New Orleans for their 21st pick and James Posey. I think there are benefits for both teams.

For New Orleans:
- they get out from under Posey's remaining $19.5 million
- they get a boatload of cash with which, if they choose, they can buy out any or all of the players or just keep it.
- if they don't buy out the players, they get 3 expiring contracts.
- they get out from under having to guarantee a contract to a late first round draft pick in what many are calling one of the weaker draft classes in recent memory.
-there are a lot of fiscal problems that can be solved with this trade for a team that is in serious financial problems.

For the Celtics:
- they get back Posey, a much needed defensive minded wing player that can hit the three and who is a huge leader in the locker room and who's addition is a guaranteed positive and not a question mark like so many other additions could be.
- they get rid of Tony Allen and open up roster space to develop Giddens at the 2 position.
- they get a first round pick where there are some interesting players that could fit the C's long term needs. Wayne  Ellington or Chase Buddinger as a Ray Allen replacement, Sam Young as a Pierce replacement, and/or a great role player such as Darren Collison, Tyler Hansborough, or BJ Mullens.
-they fill the desperate need at the back up wing without spending MLE money so that they could then use the MLE on a talented big like Rasheed Wallace or a talented guard that could play both positions like Andre Miller.

Possible final roster:

PG Rondo/Miller
SG Allen/House/Giddens
SF Pierce/Posey/Budinger/Walker
PF KG/Baby/Powe
C  Perk/Nesterovic(signed with LLE)

Nick, I'm surprised you'd entertain bringing Posey back after this season and when considering his contract. I just don't see value there anymore

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2009, 04:50:44 PM »

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What about Taysaun Prince for Scal, House and TA? The salaries match and I think he would be a perfect fit as our 6th man.



the salaries might match but the value sure doesn't, i doubt we'd ever see that deal
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Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2009, 05:01:28 PM »

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I'd be up for a Tony, Scal, and Pruitt and a boatload of cash going to New Orleans for their 21st pick and James Posey. I think there are benefits for both teams.

For New Orleans:
- they get out from under Posey's remaining $19.5 million
- they get a boatload of cash with which, if they choose, they can buy out any or all of the players or just keep it.
- if they don't buy out the players, they get 3 expiring contracts.
- they get out from under having to guarantee a contract to a late first round draft pick in what many are calling one of the weaker draft classes in recent memory.
-there are a lot of fiscal problems that can be solved with this trade for a team that is in serious financial problems.

For the Celtics:
- they get back Posey, a much needed defensive minded wing player that can hit the three and who is a huge leader in the locker room and who's addition is a guaranteed positive and not a question mark like so many other additions could be.
- they get rid of Tony Allen and open up roster space to develop Giddens at the 2 position.
- they get a first round pick where there are some interesting players that could fit the C's long term needs. Wayne  Ellington or Chase Buddinger as a Ray Allen replacement, Sam Young as a Pierce replacement, and/or a great role player such as Darren Collison, Tyler Hansborough, or BJ Mullens.
-they fill the desperate need at the back up wing without spending MLE money so that they could then use the MLE on a talented big like Rasheed Wallace or a talented guard that could play both positions like Andre Miller.

Possible final roster:

PG Rondo/Miller
SG Allen/House/Giddens
SF Pierce/Posey/Budinger/Walker
PF KG/Baby/Powe
C  Perk/Nesterovic(signed with LLE)



This is the worst idea I've heard in a long time. Furthermore, we don't have the talent to get any of the players most of the people have listed. For example, why would Chicago trade us Deng? Had Deng been healthy this series, Chicago probably would have swept us. Sure, I'd love to have Prince too, but Detroit isn't going to trade him for a bag of scrubs. The only way Danny can get a good player via trade is if that "good player" also happens to be a malcontent. Well, that and the team has to be wanting to clear cap space. Our best bet is making a very, very strong push for McDyess and Hill in free agency.

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2009, 05:14:46 PM »

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What about Taysaun Prince for Scal, House and TA? The salaries match and I think he would be a perfect fit as our 6th man.
How about Scal, Pruitt, TA, and JR for Lamarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy? The salaries match and that would give us more depth at the 2/3 and the 4/5.


Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2009, 06:39:55 PM »

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I'd be up for a Tony, Scal, and Pruitt and a boatload of cash going to New Orleans for their 21st pick and James Posey. I think there are benefits for both teams.

For New Orleans:
- they get out from under Posey's remaining $19.5 million
- they get a boatload of cash with which, if they choose, they can buy out any or all of the players or just keep it.
- if they don't buy out the players, they get 3 expiring contracts.
- they get out from under having to guarantee a contract to a late first round draft pick in what many are calling one of the weaker draft classes in recent memory.
-there are a lot of fiscal problems that can be solved with this trade for a team that is in serious financial problems.

For the Celtics:
- they get back Posey, a much needed defensive minded wing player that can hit the three and who is a huge leader in the locker room and who's addition is a guaranteed positive and not a question mark like so many other additions could be.
- they get rid of Tony Allen and open up roster space to develop Giddens at the 2 position.
- they get a first round pick where there are some interesting players that could fit the C's long term needs. Wayne  Ellington or Chase Buddinger as a Ray Allen replacement, Sam Young as a Pierce replacement, and/or a great role player such as Darren Collison, Tyler Hansborough, or BJ Mullens.
-they fill the desperate need at the back up wing without spending MLE money so that they could then use the MLE on a talented big like Rasheed Wallace or a talented guard that could play both positions like Andre Miller.

Possible final roster:

PG Rondo/Miller
SG Allen/House/Giddens
SF Pierce/Posey/Budinger/Walker
PF KG/Baby/Powe
C  Perk/Nesterovic(signed with LLE)



This is the worst idea I've heard in a long time. Furthermore, we don't have the talent to get any of the players most of the people have listed. For example, why would Chicago trade us Deng? Had Deng been healthy this series, Chicago probably would have swept us. Sure, I'd love to have Prince too, but Detroit isn't going to trade him for a bag of scrubs. The only way Danny can get a good player via trade is if that "good player" also happens to be a malcontent. Well, that and the team has to be wanting to clear cap space. Our best bet is making a very, very strong push for McDyess and Hill in free agency.
Excuse me but where in my post did I mention Deng???????

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2009, 09:36:05 AM »

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What about TA, Mikki, Giddens and Cash for Sam Dalembert. According to hoopshype.com, He wants out of Philly and he could give us a consistent rebounding and defensive presence of off the bench. We would then sign Glenn back and try for a veteren point guard. Possible Andre Miller? other free agents pg are bobby jackson, juan dixon, jaque vaughn, or tyrone lue. My favorite would be Miller but he would be too much money. Bobby Jackson is my next favorite and he could probably be picked up for well under the MLE. Maybe wait for a 2/3 at our draft pick or try to trade up. SIgn Grant Hill for well under the MLE as well.

pg. Rondo, Jackson, Pruitt
sg. Ray Ray, House
sf. Pierce, Hill, Walker
pf. KG, BBD
C. Perk, Dalembert

Yes the bench is a little thin, but i would still say that this is a very effective line up
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Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2009, 10:01:17 AM »

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- Boston gets: Andres Nocioni
Kings get: Scalabrine, Allen, Walker, and a future 2nd rounder

- Sign a C and a PG.

possible 2009-2010 roster:

Rondo/ CJ Watson/ Pruitt
Allen/ House/ Giddens
Pierce/ Nocioni
Garnett/ Davis/
Perkins/ McDyess/ Chris Johnson(draft pick)

may be a bit unrealistic but i can dream, right?

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2009, 11:39:41 AM »

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I'd be up for a Tony, Scal, and Pruitt and a boatload of cash going to New Orleans for their 21st pick and James Posey. I think there are benefits for both teams.

For New Orleans:
- they get out from under Posey's remaining $19.5 million
- they get a boatload of cash with which, if they choose, they can buy out any or all of the players or just keep it.
- if they don't buy out the players, they get 3 expiring contracts.
- they get out from under having to guarantee a contract to a late first round draft pick in what many are calling one of the weaker draft classes in recent memory.
-there are a lot of fiscal problems that can be solved with this trade for a team that is in serious financial problems.

For the Celtics:
- they get back Posey, a much needed defensive minded wing player that can hit the three and who is a huge leader in the locker room and who's addition is a guaranteed positive and not a question mark like so many other additions could be.
- they get rid of Tony Allen and open up roster space to develop Giddens at the 2 position.
- they get a first round pick where there are some interesting players that could fit the C's long term needs. Wayne  Ellington or Chase Buddinger as a Ray Allen replacement, Sam Young as a Pierce replacement, and/or a great role player such as Darren Collison, Tyler Hansborough, or BJ Mullens.
-they fill the desperate need at the back up wing without spending MLE money so that they could then use the MLE on a talented big like Rasheed Wallace or a talented guard that could play both positions like Andre Miller.

Possible final roster:

PG Rondo/Miller
SG Allen/House/Giddens
SF Pierce/Posey/Budinger/Walker
PF KG/Baby/Powe
C  Perk/Nesterovic(signed with LLE)



This is the worst idea I've heard in a long time. Furthermore, we don't have the talent to get any of the players most of the people have listed. For example, why would Chicago trade us Deng? Had Deng been healthy this series, Chicago probably would have swept us. Sure, I'd love to have Prince too, but Detroit isn't going to trade him for a bag of scrubs. The only way Danny can get a good player via trade is if that "good player" also happens to be a malcontent. Well, that and the team has to be wanting to clear cap space. Our best bet is making a very, very strong push for McDyess and Hill in free agency.

  You're assuming that teams only trade good players when they are malcontents and not to cut payroll.

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2009, 12:08:02 PM »

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I'd be up for a Tony, Scal, and Pruitt and a boatload of cash going to New Orleans for their 21st pick and James Posey. I think there are benefits for both teams.

For New Orleans:
- they get out from under Posey's remaining $19.5 million
- they get a boatload of cash with which, if they choose, they can buy out any or all of the players or just keep it.
- if they don't buy out the players, they get 3 expiring contracts.
- they get out from under having to guarantee a contract to a late first round draft pick in what many are calling one of the weaker draft classes in recent memory.
-there are a lot of fiscal problems that can be solved with this trade for a team that is in serious financial problems.

For the Celtics:
- they get back Posey, a much needed defensive minded wing player that can hit the three and who is a huge leader in the locker room and who's addition is a guaranteed positive and not a question mark like so many other additions could be.
- they get rid of Tony Allen and open up roster space to develop Giddens at the 2 position.
- they get a first round pick where there are some interesting players that could fit the C's long term needs. Wayne  Ellington or Chase Buddinger as a Ray Allen replacement, Sam Young as a Pierce replacement, and/or a great role player such as Darren Collison, Tyler Hansborough, or BJ Mullens.
-they fill the desperate need at the back up wing without spending MLE money so that they could then use the MLE on a talented big like Rasheed Wallace or a talented guard that could play both positions like Andre Miller.

Possible final roster:

PG Rondo/Miller
SG Allen/House/Giddens
SF Pierce/Posey/Budinger/Walker
PF KG/Baby/Powe
C  Perk/Nesterovic(signed with LLE)



This is the worst idea I've heard in a long time. Furthermore, we don't have the talent to get any of the players most of the people have listed. For example, why would Chicago trade us Deng? Had Deng been healthy this series, Chicago probably would have swept us. Sure, I'd love to have Prince too, but Detroit isn't going to trade him for a bag of scrubs. The only way Danny can get a good player via trade is if that "good player" also happens to be a malcontent. Well, that and the team has to be wanting to clear cap space. Our best bet is making a very, very strong push for McDyess and Hill in free agency.
Excuse me but where in my post did I mention Deng???????

TP for the original New Orleans proposal. Certainly would have been nice to have Posey on this bench in this series. In fact, I suspect we'd be talking about Orlando today if we had.

But I forget: Posey can't shoot, he can't defend, he's a bad presence in the locker room, he wrote dubious mortgage products, he shot at Kennedy from the grassy knoll ...

 ;D

I'd also make a call to Phoenix, based on their money problems, to see if there's a way to pry Barbosa out of them.

But ... All of the above possibilities are going to require the admission by Grousbeck and Danny that they screwed up last summer. Along with the willingness to spend some money to correct that.

Which, all kidding aside, leaves me in "I have to see it to believe it" mode after the damage the two of them inflicted last summer on this club's ability to repeat.
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Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2009, 12:19:06 PM »

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Throw in Pruitt, Walker, Giddens, and you might be able to pluck Jason Richardson from cash-strapped Phoenix. Saves them some money this year, and about 13 mil next year.

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2009, 03:59:51 PM »

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I'd be up for a Tony, Scal, and Pruitt and a boatload of cash going to New Orleans for their 21st pick and James Posey. I think there are benefits for both teams.

For New Orleans:
- they get out from under Posey's remaining $19.5 million
- they get a boatload of cash with which, if they choose, they can buy out any or all of the players or just keep it.
- if they don't buy out the players, they get 3 expiring contracts.
- they get out from under having to guarantee a contract to a late first round draft pick in what many are calling one of the weaker draft classes in recent memory.
-there are a lot of fiscal problems that can be solved with this trade for a team that is in serious financial problems.

For the Celtics:
- they get back Posey, a much needed defensive minded wing player that can hit the three and who is a huge leader in the locker room and who's addition is a guaranteed positive and not a question mark like so many other additions could be.
- they get rid of Tony Allen and open up roster space to develop Giddens at the 2 position.
- they get a first round pick where there are some interesting players that could fit the C's long term needs. Wayne  Ellington or Chase Buddinger as a Ray Allen replacement, Sam Young as a Pierce replacement, and/or a great role player such as Darren Collison, Tyler Hansborough, or BJ Mullens.
-they fill the desperate need at the back up wing without spending MLE money so that they could then use the MLE on a talented big like Rasheed Wallace or a talented guard that could play both positions like Andre Miller.

Possible final roster:

PG Rondo/Miller
SG Allen/House/Giddens
SF Pierce/Posey/Budinger/Walker
PF KG/Baby/Powe
C  Perk/Nesterovic(signed with LLE)

This is a great plan if it were able to be pulled off.  If Powe can't get back to action in time we'd need to add another big at somepoint during the season, I think.

I disagree with Coach about Danny being unwilling to admit a mistake.  He's admitted mistakes before (Antoine Walker trade....not a big mistake imo...though I love Antoine's personality and wish him the best).

Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2009, 12:19:04 AM »

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Throw in Pruitt, Walker, Giddens, and you might be able to pluck Jason Richardson from cash-strapped Phoenix. Saves them some money this year, and about 13 mil next year.

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Re: trade ideas for House, Scal, Tony
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2009, 09:40:23 AM »

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Tony Allen for James Posey. Pose hasn't gelled over there and they are concerned about his contract length. We shouldn't have to, but I'd throw in Pruit or cash or a 2nd rounder to get it done. TA might really fit in better there with Chris Paul.

Move Scal or House? No way, not unless there is some lucky deal we'd be dumb to pass on. House will have an even better year next year if we stick with Marburry. Scal is a bench guy we can trust to play in the playoffs, and front court depth goes great with our aggressive defense, what's not to like? Keep Miki Moore too, give him more time to fit in as well, then just buy him out if we did luck out and find somebody worth ditching him for before next year's playoff deadline.

Sign Leon to 1+1 as people have said, then trade him if we can find a 5/4 we'd put on the floor in the playoffs. Maybe even a 3/2 stopper if we can get one, but then we'd need to find another tough front court player. Stick with Leon if we can't get value for him while he's coming back from surgery.

I think we need to play 15 guys next year and really be careful about not letting our vets get too worn down.