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ESPN Insider/PER
« on: October 23, 2008, 09:18:42 AM »

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Hey, any ESPN insiders here, I have a question.
I'm an insider member as well, but since about 2 weeks ago, when I go to the Hollinger tab of a player at ESPN I can't see any Usage,Rebound, or PER stats except the projected ones for this season. Usg, Rebd, and PER are just replaced by -- marks.

Anyone else have this problem? I can't find info on ESPN, their search program is useless.

Re: ESPN Insider/PER
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 10:03:12 AM »

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Me too. I bet they'll correct it

On a side note, how cool are hollinger's scouting reports? I can literally spend an hour reading about unknown players. How's Andre Brown going to do this year? hollinger has an opinion.

Edit: actually he has nothing to say about andre brown, but you get the idea.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 11:53:33 AM »

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Hollinger's stats are interesting, but sometimes I get the feeling that he just reads off the stat sheet and never actually just watches them play. 

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Hollinger's stats are interesting, but sometimes I get the feeling that he just reads off the stat sheet and never actually just watches them play. 

Sometimes I get the feeling people have read this about Hollinger and rehash this sentiment without actually reading what he writes. If you read his chats or his individual scouting reports, it's clear that he watches a tremendous amount of basketball. He is quite transparent about his statistical analysis, and admits its shortcomings as well as when his own observations disagree with his own statistics. At least he's trying multiple approaches, rather than continuing to rely on impressions and gut instinct. Remember how different stats have honed baseball recruiting, despite similar resistance and claims about the unquantifiability of certain players' contributions. Basketball is of course a more fluid and difficult sport to analyze statistically, but why not use all approaches available?

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 01:57:52 PM »

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Me too. I bet they'll correct it

On a side note, how cool are hollinger's scouting reports? I can literally spend an hour reading about unknown players. How's Andre Brown going to do this year? hollinger has an opinion.

Edit: actually he has nothing to say about andre brown, but you get the idea.

Exactly this guy must watch a tons of basketball. He has a scouting report on almost every player.  What they did last year and what they should do this year.