Brogdon has “significant” injury which would make him untradeable for now.

[RJ87]

https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/1671939471216967684?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

Per sources, the Clippers’ reversal on Brogdon was centered on not having time to complete a physical exam.
It’s still unclear whether Brogdon will need surgery on his forearm. But if he does, the belief is that he’d still be ready for the start of next season.

This makes sense to me, especially given the Clips recent injury woes.

If true this also makes the guard situation a bit more stable.

Sounds like they just got cold feet late and tried to spin it by leaking the "significant" spin to Windy.

I don't know - I feel like having been on the paying end of the Kawhy-aren't-you-suiting-up? Leonard experience would make you a little gunshy on oft-injured players.

So why engage the C's at all about Brogdon? It's not like his injury history is a secret.

[Atzar]

I kind of wonder whether the Clippers might have been trying to play mind games, leveraging the upcoming midnight deadline to try to extract more loot from the trade.  Instead of panicking, the Wizards and Celtics told them to kick rocks and pulled in Memphis instead. 

A guess, admittedly.  Probably it's much more innocuous than that and it was simply a matter of the Clippers backing out when it became clear that they wouldn't be able to get Brogdon in for a physical in time.  But I like my reality where all of the other franchises are cartoon villains and we alone are virtuous and intelligent.  It's fun that way. 

[Celtics2021]

https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/1671939471216967684?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

Per sources, the Clippers’ reversal on Brogdon was centered on not having time to complete a physical exam.
It’s still unclear whether Brogdon will need surgery on his forearm. But if he does, the belief is that he’d still be ready for the start of next season.

This makes sense to me, especially given the Clips recent injury woes.

If true this also makes the guard situation a bit more stable.

Sounds like they just got cold feet late and tried to spin it by leaking the "significant" spin to Windy.

I don't know - I feel like having been on the paying end of the Kawhy-aren't-you-suiting-up? Leonard experience would make you a little gunshy on oft-injured players.

So why engage the C's at all about Brogdon? It's not like his injury history is a secret.

Exactly.  His injury has been public knowledge for at least a month.

[tenn_smoothie]

Golf and tennis Elbow are painful, he showed a lot of grit to even try to play.

 I had tennis elbow once and it was painful, I wrestled a knife away from someone threatening people and disarmed him.   I talked him down afterwards and the cops did not need called and the person had a serious mental illness. 

Mine never completely recovered but I did not seek treatment, hate worker's compensation,  as I was 44 and my playing days were long over.   I wish Malcolm a speedy recovery and has some of the best doctors in the world.

That is an impressive story and it's great that you were not hurt seriously what with a knife being involved.

[Kernewek]

https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/1671939471216967684?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

Per sources, the Clippers’ reversal on Brogdon was centered on not having time to complete a physical exam.
It’s still unclear whether Brogdon will need surgery on his forearm. But if he does, the belief is that he’d still be ready for the start of next season.

This makes sense to me, especially given the Clips recent injury woes.

If true this also makes the guard situation a bit more stable.

Sounds like they just got cold feet late and tried to spin it by leaking the "significant" spin to Windy.

I don't know - I feel like having been on the paying end of the Kawhy-aren't-you-suiting-up? Leonard experience would make you a little gunshy on oft-injured players.

So why engage the C's at all about Brogdon? It's not like his injury history is a secret.

Possibly because the new GM got promoted very recently, and as such may not have the most autonomy to make his own decisions - I can easily imagine Ballmer saying "we need to be better, you have my blessing to go after whoever you want" and then saying "woah, woah, Malcom Brogdon? Didn't he just play terribly in the finals"?

No knowledge there, just an example situation.

[keevsnick]

I mean we know about the torn ligament? That doesn't sound like the sort of thing that should push into next year? So is it something else? He was moving fine in the playoffs, he just couldn't shoot which I attributed to the ligament.

[Roy H.]

Brad says that both team and third-party doctors are recommending 4 to 8 weeks of rest.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brad-stevens-malcolm-brogdon-doesnt-212941137.html

[hpantazo]

It was basically the Clippers trying to save face after losing out on a deal. Brogdon will be fine and they knew it.

[gouki88]

Brad says that both team and third-party doctors are recommending 4 to 8 weeks of rest.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brad-stevens-malcolm-brogdon-doesnt-212941137.html

Even if it is 8 weeks, that still is late August - early September for a return. That’s alright.

[Neurotic Guy]

Brad says that both team and third-party doctors are recommending 4 to 8 weeks of rest.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brad-stevens-malcolm-brogdon-doesnt-212941137.html

Even if it is 8 weeks, that still is late August - early September for a return. That’s alright.

With all the talk about the coaching staff, the staff that might play an even more crucial role next season is the medical/training staff.

Not sure how Joe will play this, but he’s got 4 rotation players who are probably 50-60 game players - and the question is how to be proactive in addressing this.  Need for rest and recovery v. need for players to have consistency in rotations and comfort with one another/ comfortable with different lineups - going to be a challenge. 

I know nothing about Cs training staff or medical staff but it seems to me that’s no place to skimp.  Hope they have best people and equipment money can buy - undoubtedly going to be a factor.   

[gouki88]

Brad says that both team and third-party doctors are recommending 4 to 8 weeks of rest.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brad-stevens-malcolm-brogdon-doesnt-212941137.html

Even if it is 8 weeks, that still is late August - early September for a return. That’s alright.

With all the talk about the coaching staff, the staff that might play an even more crucial role next season is the medical/training staff.

Not sure how Joe will play this, but he’s got 4 rotation players who are probably 50-60 game players - and the question is how to be proactive in addressing this.  Need for rest and recovery v. need for players to have consistency in rotations and comfort with one another/ comfortable with different lineups - going to be a challenge. 

I know nothing about Cs training staff or medical staff but it seems to me that’s no place to skimp.  Hope they have best people and equipment money can buy - undoubtedly going to be a factor.

I'm not sure that's quite accurate. Brogdon played 67 games last season, and only got hurt when Joe shortened the rotation (to an extreme degree). Porzingis played 65, and I imagine will be able to stay in that range with a slightly lesser role.

Rob is a complete mystery, but if we can get 50 games from him that's a win in my book. Who is the 4th guy?

[footey]

Wondering if the injury was caused by his rather jarring shooting motion. It's a repetitive motion injury.  His shot mechanics always seemed how do I put it, herky jerky, not smooth. 

[Celtics2021]

Brad says that both team and third-party doctors are recommending 4 to 8 weeks of rest.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brad-stevens-malcolm-brogdon-doesnt-212941137.html

Even if it is 8 weeks, that still is late August - early September for a return. That’s alright.

With all the talk about the coaching staff, the staff that might play an even more crucial role next season is the medical/training staff.

Not sure how Joe will play this, but he’s got 4 rotation players who are probably 50-60 game players - and the question is how to be proactive in addressing this.  Need for rest and recovery v. need for players to have consistency in rotations and comfort with one another/ comfortable with different lineups - going to be a challenge. 

I know nothing about Cs training staff or medical staff but it seems to me that’s no place to skimp.  Hope they have best people and equipment money can buy - undoubtedly going to be a factor.

I'm not sure that's quite accurate. Brogdon played 67 games last season, and only got hurt when Joe shortened the rotation (to an extreme degree). Porzingis played 65, and I imagine will be able to stay in that range with a slightly lesser role.

Rob is a complete mystery, but if we can get 50 games from him that's a win in my book. Who is the 4th guy?

I just want to point out we don’t know when Brogdon got hurt, nor the exact cause.  If it is a repetitive stress injury from dribbling a basketball, it’s unlikely that was caused by extra minutes of playing, given that he only possessed the ball 2.5 minutes per playoff game, and 4 minutes per regular season game.  Presumably he dribbles far more than that during practices and workouts.

[gouki88]

Brad says that both team and third-party doctors are recommending 4 to 8 weeks of rest.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brad-stevens-malcolm-brogdon-doesnt-212941137.html

Even if it is 8 weeks, that still is late August - early September for a return. That’s alright.

With all the talk about the coaching staff, the staff that might play an even more crucial role next season is the medical/training staff.

Not sure how Joe will play this, but he’s got 4 rotation players who are probably 50-60 game players - and the question is how to be proactive in addressing this.  Need for rest and recovery v. need for players to have consistency in rotations and comfort with one another/ comfortable with different lineups - going to be a challenge. 

I know nothing about Cs training staff or medical staff but it seems to me that’s no place to skimp.  Hope they have best people and equipment money can buy - undoubtedly going to be a factor.

I'm not sure that's quite accurate. Brogdon played 67 games last season, and only got hurt when Joe shortened the rotation (to an extreme degree). Porzingis played 65, and I imagine will be able to stay in that range with a slightly lesser role.

Rob is a complete mystery, but if we can get 50 games from him that's a win in my book. Who is the 4th guy?

I just want to point out we don’t know when Brogdon got hurt, nor the exact cause.  If it is a repetitive stress injury from dribbling a basketball, it’s unlikely that was caused by extra minutes of playing, given that he only possessed the ball 2.5 minutes per playoff game, and 4 minutes per regular season game.  Presumably he dribbles far more than that during practices and workouts.

That's fair. I am just conflating him going from a highly efficient 14/4/4 guy over 28mpg in the first two series to an inefficient 6/2/1 guy in 19mpg as when he got hurt, perhaps wrongly. Just more when it became apparent