J.B. second team All Nba! J.T. first team

[Moranis]

People are wild. Even if you don't want Brown on the team you still sign him to the contract. People get upset that we let TPEs and 15th spots on the roster go unused. Can you imagine letting our 2nd best asset go, but still being over the cap? Sign him and trade him later if you are in the anti Brown camp.

Personally I love Brown. He has the fire in his belly that more on our team need.

See how Washington is doing. Trading Beal for a younger star makes sense.
But is the market there to actually do that?

Beal and Brown are very similar.

Problem being Beal has actually not shown any sort of desire to leave besides weird cryptic comments (often prior to signing long-term extensions). If management believe Beal wants to be there, why would they ship him?

Washington's mistakes have been the people around Beal. Porzingis and Kuzma are not playoff-worthy #2 and #3 guys

Beal isn't a #1 either which is probably the bigger issue.  He is what a top 30 player, maybe top 25.  That isn't what people think of as a #1.

[RodyTur10]

I posted this in the Game Thread but it probably belongs over here instead:


One thing I have been wondering about since Jaylen made the All-NBA team is: Obviously, scoring more points and lifting his ppg 20 27ppg has been great for Jaylen in terms of his individual fame and recognition but has it really improved the team?

Is the team better today with Jaylen scoring 27ppg than it was when Jaylen was scoring 20-22ppg? Is the team better off with Jaylen taking those extra 5-7 FGAs rather than having them spread out among the rest of the team?

I mean we have one of the deepest teams in the league. We have 7 guys who are average to above average starters and an 8th guy in G Will who is a high end bench player to low end starter. Plus quality deep bench beyond that.

So is the team really better with Jaylen takin those extra 5-7 FGAs or would it better with Jaylen scoring 20-22ppg and the team sharing those 5-7 FGAs around the rest of the team? Taking a more team based approach.

I mean, Jaylen's scoring efficiency in the regular season was still around league average. It is not like he is a hugely efficient scorer that is far more efficient than the guys around him.

I'll add to that post this:

There is some advantage to role players sometimes to having an average or below average efficiency scorer take more shots than their scoring efficiency says they should take and that is when they attract a lot of defensive attention and use their passing to create higher efficiency shots for teammates who struggle to create good looks for themselves.

Allen Iverson is perhaps the best example of this. He played with a lot of limited offensive guys who were only spot up shooters or garbage men around the basket. They benefitted from Iverson dominating the ball & shots so long as he continued to create easier shots for them and pump their scoring efficiency that way. Which Iverson did and did very well.

However, this does fit Jaylen as he is a poor passer and with a poor AST:TO ratio. He does not pass often. He does pass well. And he is error prone with regards to turnovers. He does not generate enough higher quality shot attempts for teammates to justify taking inefficient or average efficiency shot attempts over more team based approach.

TP Who. That has been my opinion all along. And the energy it conserves by making less plays on the offense can be used on defense. Brown was a very good on ball defender (remember what he did to Siakam), but now he's very average because his BBIQ for team defense is low and he's not taking the challenge anymore of guarding the best opposing player.

The best solution for the Celtics would be if Brown would accept to play PF. He can guard bigger guys and even rebound pretty well if his mind is set to that. On offense we have Tatum, White, Brogdon and Smart who are all better ball handlers. We don't want Brown to initiate offense from the perimeter. On offense he can play the Horford role and of course attack close outs much more agressive and also post up and make cuts to the basket.

We need a guy who commits to the challenge of guarding a star like Butler in these series. And Horford is showing his age, at this point in his career he needs to play less minutes and not necessarily be a starter.

I'd start White/Smart/Tatum/Brown/R.Williams with Brogdon/Hauser or G.Williams/Horford coming from the bench.
Unfortunately it seems like Brown wants to be regarded as a superstar like Tatum and therefore it may be best to look for trading options.

[gouki88]

People are wild. Even if you don't want Brown on the team you still sign him to the contract. People get upset that we let TPEs and 15th spots on the roster go unused. Can you imagine letting our 2nd best asset go, but still being over the cap? Sign him and trade him later if you are in the anti Brown camp.

Personally I love Brown. He has the fire in his belly that more on our team need.

See how Washington is doing. Trading Beal for a younger star makes sense.
But is the market there to actually do that?

Beal and Brown are very similar.

Problem being Beal has actually not shown any sort of desire to leave besides weird cryptic comments (often prior to signing long-term extensions). If management believe Beal wants to be there, why would they ship him?

Washington's mistakes have been the people around Beal. Porzingis and Kuzma are not playoff-worthy #2 and #3 guys

Beal isn't a #1 either which is probably the bigger issue.  He is what a top 30 player, maybe top 25.  That isn't what people think of as a #1.

I think Beal could be a similar player to Booker alongside a group of talented players. An efficient 25ish points whilst passing decently too. Problem being Washington