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The Scarcity of Minutes
« on: July 04, 2022, 10:13:40 PM »

Offline GreenlyGreeny

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So I don’t think we have a problem, but Brogdon and D-White are too good to not average at least 24 MPG. For the regular season, perhaps we see rotations like this:

1: Smart (30), Brogdon (18)
2: JB (20), D-White (24), Brogdon (4)
3: JT (24), JB (12), Batman (10), Brogdon (2)
4: Horford (24), JT (8 ), Batman (14), Gallinari (2)
5: Timelord (30), Horford (4), Gallinari (10)

Player-level:

JT: 32
JB: 32
Smart: 30
Timelord: 30
Horford: 28

Batman: 24
Brogdon: 24
D-White: 24
Gallinari: 12

The bold above illustrates why I’d prefer to add another big via TPE so we can make the minutes work with Horford and Timelord averaging closer to 24, so they’re ready for 30 come playoffs. That said, we need to be smart about who we bring in as we’d only be able to give them 10-12 MPG when Horford/Timelord are healthy. At the same time, having that insurance would be tremendous, especially if that person could start in Horford’s place a year from now.

TL;DR = If we move nobody else, we only have minutes available at the 5/4.

Thoughts?

Re: The Scarcity of Minutes
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2022, 10:21:54 PM »

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I would be astonished if Grant Williams plays twice as much as Gallinari
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2022, 10:23:18 PM »

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I would be astonished if Grant Williams plays twice as much as Gallinari

I would be astonished if that 9-man rotation were available for more than 10 games during the regular season.

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2022, 10:30:08 PM »

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I would be astonished if Grant Williams plays twice as much as Gallinari

I would be astonished if that 9-man rotation were available for more than 10 games during the regular season.
Haha, yeah, we will definitely be seeing PP and Hauser during the regular season (plus another potential minimum contract type). A lot of our players have injury histories
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2022, 10:47:11 PM »

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Smart and Brogdon are very injury prone, Brogdon more than Smart. There will be minutes to go around.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2022, 11:25:20 PM »

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Smart and Brogdon are very injury prone, Brogdon more than Smart. There will be minutes to go around.

Great thing now, as Locked On Celtics noted, is that Brogdon will have a much lower load than before. He'll be option 4 or even lower, where before he was option 2-3

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2022, 11:27:15 PM »

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The less minutes the starters play in the regular season, will only benefit the team come playoff time. This is a luxury, not an issue.

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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2022, 11:33:52 PM »

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I'm expecting Ime's circle of trust will be bigger, so he won't have to play a shorter lineup. Probably the guys who will play spot minutes might be Gallo and PP, because they are kind of one dimensional. Hopefully they know that.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2022, 12:11:05 AM »

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I would be astonished if Grant Williams plays twice as much as Gallinari

What exactly does Gallo do better than Grant? Defense, no. 3pt shooting, no. rebounding, both are mediocre. Maybe a better scorer from midrange? Overall I think he’s a worse player than Grant  is at this stage of his career.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2022, 12:15:49 AM »

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Gallinari’s averaged over 24 MPG in every season that he’s played, he’s getting at least 20 MPG.

Also, Pritchard will get a minutes increase.

This team will be historically great. An entire season at the second half performance rate, 60+ wins, where there will be a ton of blowouts throughout the season. I think Udoka refines his minute distribution and trusts the bench to close out blowouts sooner than with 2-6 minutes left in the fourth quarter with a 30+ point lead.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2022, 12:40:18 AM »

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I would be astonished if Grant Williams plays twice as much as Gallinari

What exactly does Gallo do better than Grant? Defense, no. 3pt shooting, no. rebounding, both are mediocre. Maybe a better scorer from midrange? Overall I think he’s a worse player than Grant  is at this stage of his career.
Maybe a better scorer in the mid-range?? LOL

Gallinari scores 24.6 points per 100 possessions for the last two seasons. Grant scores 14.7. As scorers, they are not even comparable. Gallo generates over twice the amount of free throws that Grant does per possession, he's a better passer, turns it over less, and has better offensive metrics across the offensive board (RAPTOR, OBPM, EPM, LEBRON). The difference is massive on that end. Unless Grant makes some enormous, unforeseen jump on offence and Gallo is totally cooked, then it's not close.

Gallo is also the superior rebounder, despite your attempts to paint them as being on the same level there.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)