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Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2022, 11:10:32 AM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.


Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2022, 11:13:57 AM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

This is really important. I feel like BOS is the team to beat in the East as it stands now but Durant could change the whole landscape of the league depending on where he ends up.

Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2022, 11:25:19 AM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

This is really important. I feel like BOS is the team to beat in the East as it stands now but Durant could change the whole landscape of the league depending on where he ends up.

Can anyone come up with a plausible trade that makes anyone scary in the east? I don't see Miami being an issue. Toronto possibly?

Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2022, 11:28:24 AM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

This is really important. I feel like BOS is the team to beat in the East as it stands now but Durant could change the whole landscape of the league depending on where he ends up.

Can anyone come up with a plausible trade that makes anyone scary in the east? I don't see Miami being an issue. Toronto possibly?

I think the scariest team in the East, for us, is the Bucks. If both teams are healthy, it could be a real heavyweight bout. Have to see how the teams develop over the year, but aren’t they the biggest threat?

Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2022, 11:33:48 AM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.
Jaylen is no KD:
It's questionable whether KD is KD anymore.

KD won't go to the competition?
Maybe this year. Who knows after that? You might have noticed that loyalty is not really KD's thing.

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2022, 04:56:25 PM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

This is really important. I feel like BOS is the team to beat in the East as it stands now but Durant could change the whole landscape of the league depending on where he ends up.

Can anyone come up with a plausible trade that makes anyone scary in the east? I don't see Miami being an issue. Toronto possibly?

I think the scariest team in the East, for us, is the Bucks. If both teams are healthy, it could be a real heavyweight bout. Have to see how the teams develop over the year, but aren’t they the biggest threat?

I agree with this 100%.  With Giannis, and KM healthy, the bucks are our biggest threat.  Now if KD goes to an eastern conf team, that may change, but it depends on the trade. 

Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2022, 10:24:10 PM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

This is really important. I feel like BOS is the team to beat in the East as it stands now but Durant could change the whole landscape of the league depending on where he ends up.

Yes, the best player in the world, Giannis, is staying in our way a number of years. Getting the second or third best player in the world in KD to team up with future top five/current top ten JT definitely makes sense. It’s not easy getting past the best in the world, even when his sidekick (Middleton) is out injured. Anybody who thinks it’ll be easy to get past a healthy Bucks is mistaken. If we can move JB, Grant, Pritchard and picks/swaps for KD, we gotta do it. We just gotta. Throwing in one of our guards is too much to give up, though.

Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2022, 12:57:28 PM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

Durant would be a huge move.  But from what I understand the Celtics were not on his 'trade me to this team' list when he made his trade demands.  From what I hear he wants to goto Phoenix to play with Devin Booker.  But if Phoenix doesn't give up enough assets, could Boston come into play?

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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2022, 03:38:16 PM »

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I just want to say Stevens made another great trade getting Brogdon for next to nothing, in Celtics terms.
That's two solid guards Stevens has gotten, White the other, in trades without giving up much.

OK , so maybe now it's time to trade Jaylen Brown and a guard for Kevin Durant.
Jaylen is a flashy player, but he is no KD.
A guard like White, Brogdon or Smart is now expendable. Probably Smart.

The caveats: KDs age and durability. 
He's still a dominant player when healthy, and makes the Celtics stronger everywhere on the court.
And importantly, he doesn't go to the competition--especially Miami.

If it makes sense to me, maybe it makes sense to Brad. He's on a roll.

Durant would be a huge move.  But from what I understand the Celtics were not on his 'trade me to this team' list when he made his trade demands.  From what I hear he wants to goto Phoenix to play with Devin Booker.  But if Phoenix doesn't give up enough assets, could Boston come into play?

PHX isn't likely to offer Booker. Ayton, Bridges, Johnson, and picks apparently aren't enough according to media reports. However, I can't see Boston betting the farm on a player who's 34 and will be 38 at the end of his contract and whom they contained in sweeping BKN. My guess is they don't trade him and as much as the Nets would like to move DipEdited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.e, I don't see Westbrook being in BKN next season either.

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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2022, 03:42:46 PM »

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As to the original post, I expect the Cs will have Brogdon as part of the closing 5 with one of the bigs, the Js, and Smart.

He was brought here primarily because he makes good decisions AND can score, something Smart and White, respectively, don't do.

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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2022, 03:45:08 PM »

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I'll be happy if Brogdon stays healthy.

Re: Potentially Pleasant Problem: What if Brogdon Outplays Smart on D?
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2022, 03:49:22 PM »

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I'll be happy if Brogdon stays healthy.
Availability is by far the biggest concern with him.