Rookie Brad Rockin the Garden

[KG Living Legend]

 

 The only unplayable player we still have is Grant Williams,  however I do acknowledge he's a good defensive options against certain players and does contribute to the team.

 And I love how Brad's already flipped Moses Brown for Richardson, and Dunn for Juan Hernangomez.  It shows he understands the concept of assets and what to do with them better than the previous GM.

 Also have been staring at the roster lately and the logjam was above obvious at the guard spot.

 Now we have four centers Al, TL, Kanter and Bruno and four PFs Tatum,  Parker,  Grant and Juan

 Think about that we have eight bigs right now. Three are very good players and the other five all being at least one element to the table.

 Also did some digging on hernangomez.  He played one season in Denver 50/50 minutes split between SF and PF.

 And upon looking at his film first the bad, I saw him miss a ton of easy ones at the time. On the good side. Much quicker than anticipated.  Good at back door cuts, sneaking away from defenders for a layup.

 Looks big on the court.  Would guess 6'10" with a plus 7 foot wingspan.  One play he stuffs Gordon Hayward chasedown block and Gordon looks small.

 Beautiful looking stroke. Percentages seem to be all over the place from three. Looking at the roster we are a little thin at SF. Brown is the man, but juan could offer something different at that spot.
 

 

[footey]

IIRC Celtics wanted to draft Hernangomez in 2016 draft. Was taken one slot ahead of Yabusele at 15 by Denver.

I advocated trying to get him during last year’s trading deadline. He has underperformed but think he still has decent upside and potentially fills big need at backup power forward slot. Can guard 3s and 4s. Low usage guy. Will fit in real well.

[KG Living Legend]

IIRC Celtics wanted to draft Hernangomez in 2016 draft. Was taken one slot ahead of Yabusele at 15 by Denver.

I advocated trying to get him during last year’s trading deadline. He has underperformed but think he still has decent upside and potentially fills big need at backup power forward slot. Can guard 3s and 4s. Low usage guy. Will fit in real well.

 Tp Foot, and you do recall correctly.  We had to draft the worst player ever over this dude who could have helped.

[Roy H.]

It's interesting regarding the before-and-after of this particular trade.

The net outcome:

Tristan Thompson, Carsen Edwards and a swap of seconds for Juancho Hernangomez, Bruno Fernando, a trade exception, and a #2

[W8ting2McHale]

IIRC Celtics wanted to draft Hernangomez in 2016 draft. Was taken one slot ahead of Yabusele at 15 by Denver.

I advocated trying to get him during last year’s trading deadline. He has underperformed but think he still has decent upside and potentially fills big need at backup power forward slot. Can guard 3s and 4s. Low usage guy. Will fit in real well.

 Tp Foot, and you do recall correctly.  We had to draft the worst player ever over this dude who could have helped.

Except that’s not what happened. Hernangomez was drafted at 15. Yabusele was picked at 16. Juancho was already gone when Boston picked, so Yabusele wasn’t drafted over this dude.

He was picked over Caris LaVert and Pascal Siakam though, if you still want to be mad about something that happened 5 years ago.

[KG Living Legend]

IIRC Celtics wanted to draft Hernangomez in 2016 draft. Was taken one slot ahead of Yabusele at 15 by Denver.

I advocated trying to get him during last year’s trading deadline. He has underperformed but think he still has decent upside and potentially fills big need at backup power forward slot. Can guard 3s and 4s. Low usage guy. Will fit in real well.

 Tp Foot, and you do recall correctly.  We had to draft the worst player ever over this dude who could have helped.

Except that’s not what happened. Hernangomez was drafted at 15. Yabusele was picked at 16. Juancho was already gone when Boston picked, so Yabusele wasn’t drafted over this dude.

He was picked over Caris LaVert and Pascal Siakam though, if you still want to be mad about something that happened 5 years ago.

.I know the situation.  I wanted Levert.  High risk high reward.  That's my M.O. as a GM. Didn't know anything about Pascal at the time.

[SparzWizard]

Brad wants to throw all these bigs at Anthony Davis when they meet in the playoffs huh

[GreenlyGreeny]

Had Danny stuck around, the roster would probably be something like this with Smart and Timelord lacking extensions in order to “motivate” them and not “overpay” (Fournier would definitely be gone to avoid the luxury tax again, and no way Danny swallows his pride by bringing back Big Al, which was literally the only way to get rid of Kemba):

Walker/Pritchard/Tre Mann (16th pick)/Edwards
Smart/Langford
Brown/Nesmith/Ojeyele
Tatum/Parker/Williams
TT/Timelord/Kornet

Or we’d have dropped down from 16th in order to get a late first and a couple of useless second round picks (or two protected 1sts in the future)…sound familiar?

…And we’d hearing about how the young guys he loves are going to grow into role players, but no signal he’s going to pay the one young guy showing promise (Timelord) nor the loyal foot soldier (Smart). And we’d be 🤢 again and Danny would try buying more off-seasons by blaming Brad for his disastrous bench. And all the Danny Dittoheads would fall for it and call for Brad’s head just like they did during this season with that media leak. Smart and Timelord would have been dealt at the deadline for “assets.” Total nightmare.

This roster beats the above everyday of the week:

Schröder/Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Langford
Tatum/Nesmith/Hernangomez
Horford/Parker/Williams
Timelord/Kanter/Fernando

Given the cards he was dealt, Brad has been quite brilliant. We are extremely fortunate to have him.

[SHAQATTACK]

Brad wants to throw all these bigs at Anthony Davis when they meet in the playoffs huh

Yup .

[footey]

It's interesting regarding the before-and-after of this particular trade.

The net outcome:

Tristan Thompson, Carsen Edwards and a swap of seconds for Juancho Hernangomez, Bruno Fernando, a trade exception, and a #2

Seems like a decent net return.  I consider Bruno and TT a wash, and Juancho decent improvement over Carson. Adding a 2nd round pick is gravy.

[Roy H.]

I didn’t like Thompson much, but can you explain this?

I consider Bruno and TT a wash

Thompson averaged 8/8 in 24 mpg, making 43 starts.  Fernando a averaged 1.5 / 2.3 in about 7 minutes per game, only playing in 33 games (no starts).

We’ve replaced Thompson, but that’s via Horford and Kanter, not Bruno.

[Yuckabuck33]

And we’d be 🤢 again and Danny would try buying more off-seasons by blaming Brad for his disastrous bench. And all the Danny Dittoheads would fall for it and call for Brad’s head just like they did during this season with that media leak.

It was a long year, but I must have missed something. When did Danny blame Brad through a media leak?

[footey]

I didn’t like Thompson much, but can you explain this?

I consider Bruno and TT a wash

Thompson averaged 8/8 in 24 mpg, making 43 starts.  Fernando a averaged 1.5 / 2.3 in about 7 minutes per game, only playing in 33 games (no starts).

We’ve replaced Thompson, but that’s via Horford and Kanter, not Bruno.

Well, if Thompson were still here, he'd be playing 3rd string center behind Horford and TL.   And would not have been happy with that role.  Bruno fits it fine.  So factoring that in, I don't think it is significant loss. 

Thompson is a better player than Bruno.  But Bruno should improve over the next several years, Thompson has peaked, and probably will be declining soon. It's a miracle we got anything back at all for Thompson, given how poor returns on big men in trades were (e.g. Plumlee).

[hodgy03038]

Brad wants to throw all these bigs at Anthony Davis when they meet in the playoffs huh

What year will these bigs face Anthony Davis in the playoffs? I think we have bigger problems in Brooklyn.

[gouki88]

Brad wants to throw all these bigs at Anthony Davis when they meet in the playoffs huh

How on earth are the Los Angeles Geriatrics making the Finals?