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Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2021, 11:23:29 PM »

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City of Dallas would run Cuban out of town if he traded Luka

Not unless the C's trade Jayson Tatum for him  ;D


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Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2021, 11:25:12 PM »

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City of Dallas would run Cuban out of town if he traded Luka

Not unless the C's trade Jayson Tatum for him  ;D

Even then, I reckon.

Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2021, 11:30:37 PM »

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City of Dallas would run Cuban out of town if he traded Luka

Not unless the C's trade Jayson Tatum for him  ;D

Even then, I reckon.
Brown and Tatum for Doncic and Zinger :P
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Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2021, 11:36:24 PM »

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Zinger, Burke

for

Horford, Nesmith, G. Williams, 2022 1st, 2024 1st lotto


Boston post-trade (1 open roster spot)

PG - Burke, Pritchard, Dunn, Edwards
SG - Smart, Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown
PF - Tatum, Parker, Fernando
C - Porzingis, R. Williams, Kanter

Hopefully you'd get minutes of Zinger and RW or Kanter so Tatum could play some at SF.

Yuck.  Why for Boston?  Nesmith plus two #1s for a fragile player on a bad contract?

I know that you're all about winning titles.  Do you think that gets us there?
Porzingis is a 20/9 player.  Solid 3 point shooter.  Excellent foul shooter.  Blocks shots and doesn't turn it over.  He obviously has some injury issues, but he is a fantastic player and would be a superb 3rd option for Boston. He can play some at the 4 as well as the 5.  He can defend big guys well and can fit into any offensive system.  He obviously has a max deal, though it isn't a crazy max and that 3rd year is a player option (31.5, 34, player option 36).  He finished last year healthy and seems to be the healthiest he has been in awhile. 

I think he raises Boston's ceiling a great deal and he just turned 26.  He is probably always going to be a 75% games played type player, but if he is healthy for the playoffs, that is fine by me.  And I do think he would create matchup problems for the best teams in the league.  I'd like Boston's chances against a team like the Nets, for example, as he would be difficult for them to guard effectively (I think Giannis could handle him ok, but that also takes Giannis out of help defense when playing the Bucks).  If Tatum takes a leap up into the top 10 range, then yeah, I think Boston could realistically contend with Brown and Porzingis flanking him and still having guys like Smart and Williams to provide some toughness and defense. 

I'd absolutely give up Horford, Nesmith, and a couple of late 1st's to take a real shot at contending the next few seasons.  If that trade is available you take it and you don't wait around for something better as something better may never come.
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Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2021, 11:36:33 PM »

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City of Dallas would run Cuban out of town if he traded Luka

Not unless the C's trade Jayson Tatum for him  ;D

Even then, I reckon.

Brown and Tatum for Doncic and Zinger :P

Seriously tho :] You reckon Cuban would? Cuz I don't think he would!

Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2021, 11:44:27 PM »

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Zinger, Burke

for

Horford, Nesmith, G. Williams, 2022 1st, 2024 1st lotto


Boston post-trade (1 open roster spot)

PG - Burke, Pritchard, Dunn, Edwards
SG - Smart, Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown
PF - Tatum, Parker, Fernando
C - Porzingis, R. Williams, Kanter

Hopefully you'd get minutes of Zinger and RW or Kanter so Tatum could play some at SF.

Yuck.  Why for Boston?  Nesmith plus two #1s for a fragile player on a bad contract?

I know that you're all about winning titles.  Do you think that gets us there?
Porzingis is a 20/9 player.  Solid 3 point shooter.  Excellent foul shooter.  Blocks shots and doesn't turn it over.  He obviously has some injury issues, but he is a fantastic player and would be a superb 3rd option for Boston. He can play some at the 4 as well as the 5.  He can defend big guys well and can fit into any offensive system.  He obviously has a max deal, though it isn't a crazy max and that 3rd year is a player option (31.5, 34, player option 36).  He finished last year healthy and seems to be the healthiest he has been in awhile. 

I think he raises Boston's ceiling a great deal and he just turned 26.  He is probably always going to be a 75% games played type player, but if he is healthy for the playoffs, that is fine by me.  And I do think he would create matchup problems for the best teams in the league.  I'd like Boston's chances against a team like the Nets, for example, as he would be difficult for them to guard effectively (I think Giannis could handle him ok, but that also takes Giannis out of help defense when playing the Bucks).  If Tatum takes a leap up into the top 10 range, then yeah, I think Boston could realistically contend with Brown and Porzingis flanking him and still having guys like Smart and Williams to provide some toughness and defense. 

I'd absolutely give up Horford, Nesmith, and a couple of late 1st's to take a real shot at contending the next few seasons.  If that trade is available you take it and you don't wait around for something better as something better may never come.
I just can't believe that after consecutive negative experiences with injury-prone max players we'd try and add the most injury-prone max player. He's also a horrible person, and has been unable to stay healthy for consecutive playoff appearances.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Doncic Gets Super Max
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2021, 06:52:10 AM »

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Zinger, Burke

for

Horford, Nesmith, G. Williams, 2022 1st, 2024 1st lotto


Boston post-trade (1 open roster spot)

PG - Burke, Pritchard, Dunn, Edwards
SG - Smart, Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown
PF - Tatum, Parker, Fernando
C - Porzingis, R. Williams, Kanter

Hopefully you'd get minutes of Zinger and RW or Kanter so Tatum could play some at SF.

Yuck.  Why for Boston?  Nesmith plus two #1s for a fragile player on a bad contract?

I know that you're all about winning titles.  Do you think that gets us there?
Porzingis is a 20/9 player.  Solid 3 point shooter.  Excellent foul shooter.  Blocks shots and doesn't turn it over.  He obviously has some injury issues, but he is a fantastic player and would be a superb 3rd option for Boston. He can play some at the 4 as well as the 5.  He can defend big guys well and can fit into any offensive system.  He obviously has a max deal, though it isn't a crazy max and that 3rd year is a player option (31.5, 34, player option 36).  He finished last year healthy and seems to be the healthiest he has been in awhile. 

I think he raises Boston's ceiling a great deal and he just turned 26.  He is probably always going to be a 75% games played type player, but if he is healthy for the playoffs, that is fine by me.  And I do think he would create matchup problems for the best teams in the league.  I'd like Boston's chances against a team like the Nets, for example, as he would be difficult for them to guard effectively (I think Giannis could handle him ok, but that also takes Giannis out of help defense when playing the Bucks).  If Tatum takes a leap up into the top 10 range, then yeah, I think Boston could realistically contend with Brown and Porzingis flanking him and still having guys like Smart and Williams to provide some toughness and defense. 

I'd absolutely give up Horford, Nesmith, and a couple of late 1st's to take a real shot at contending the next few seasons.  If that trade is available you take it and you don't wait around for something better as something better may never come.
I just can't believe that after consecutive negative experiences with injury-prone max players we'd try and add the most injury-prone max player. He's also a horrible person, and has been unable to stay healthy for consecutive playoff appearances.
I have no idea the quality of person any player really is, so I just don't think about it.  Sure there is an injury risk, but he is a clear talent upgrade and shouldn't that be the point. 
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