Don't Trade Kemba

[Roy H.]

It depends on what the return is.  I’d move him for Horford, for instance, and let Marcus play PG.

Horford
Tatum
Brown
Fournier
Smart

That’s a strong lineup, and it would also offer some payroll relief.

TT is better than 2021 Hoford
Having said that; it is time to move Kemba.  Keeping Kemba won’t be pretty and trading won’t be pretty either.

We’ll just have to bite the bullet and hope for the best. 

Just trade him.  It is a losing situation either way.  Rip that bandage!!

TT was better, except for scoring, passing, shooting, defending, FTs, TOs, PFs, blocks, steals, 3PTs, eFG%, TS%, etc.  Oh, and they were about tied in defensive rebounds.

[vjcsmoke]

It's time to move on for Kemba.  DA leaving is the sign for Stevens to make some big changes.  That can't happen without first moving on from Kemba.

I believe there is a way to get value for him.  For example there's a rumor there could be interest in a Kemba Walker for Kristaps Porzingis trade. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-6msvXDXO8

Of course we might need to add some draft picks into the pot too but I'm totally game for a shakeup!

Let's go Celtics!!

[Jvalin]

If the C's trade Kemba, I bet most of us (the fans) won't like the trade. If we keep him till he enters the final year of his contract, chances are we will get way better value. For instance, look at 35-year-old Kyle Lowry. According to rumors, the Raps could have gotten great value for him at the deadline. They opted to keep him for sentimental reasons(?), but that's another story.

Having said that, Brad should definitely explore the market. Imo, our best trade partners this offseason are probably the Clippers. If they lose to the Jazz, they may become desperate (especially since Kawhi has a player option). Obviously Kemba is overpaid, but he may be the best player they can realistically get. I mean, he was an all-star starter for 2 years in a row prior to this season. He's still a legit scoring threat as a PnR ball handler. I reckon he'd be a nice fit alongside Kawhi and George. If the goal for the Clips is to win a ring no matter the cost, Kemba fits the bill.

[nickagneta]

If this is a reason to trade Kemba....

Obviously Kemba is overpaid, but he may be the best player they can realistically get. I mean, he was an all-star starter for 2 years in a row prior to this season. He's still a legit scoring threat as a PnR ball handler. I reckon he'd be a nice fit alongside Kawhi and George. If the goal for the Clips is to win a ring no matter the cost, Kemba fits the bill.

Then isn't this the reason to keep Kemba....

Obviously Kemba is overpaid, but he may be the best player they Celtics can realistically get. I mean, he was an all-star starter for 2 years in a row prior to this season. He's still a legit scoring threat as a PnR ball handler. I reckon he'd be a nice fit alongside Kawhi Jayson and George Jaylen. If the goal for the Clips Celtics is to win a ring no matter the cost, Kemba fits the bill.

🤔😉😄

[Jvalin]

If this is a reason to trade Kemba....

Obviously Kemba is overpaid, but he may be the best player they can realistically get. I mean, he was an all-star starter for 2 years in a row prior to this season. He's still a legit scoring threat as a PnR ball handler. I reckon he'd be a nice fit alongside Kawhi and George. If the goal for the Clips is to win a ring no matter the cost, Kemba fits the bill.

Then isn't this the reason to keep Kemba....

Obviously Kemba is overpaid, but he may be the best player they Celtics can realistically get. I mean, he was an all-star starter for 2 years in a row prior to this season. He's still a legit scoring threat as a PnR ball handler. I reckon he'd be a nice fit alongside Kawhi Jayson and George Jaylen. If the goal for the Clips Celtics is to win a ring no matter the cost, Kemba fits the bill.

🤔😉😄

No.

- Imo, Kemba is a terrible fit next to the Jays. He's undersized, hence he's a bad fit in our switch-heavy defensive system. At the same time, he has score-first mentality, hence he's a bad fit alongside 2 score-first wings. The way I see it, we'd be better off with an oversized pass-first PG. That's the exact opposite of Kemba.
- Unlike the Clips, we are not legit contenders. If we had a top 5 player in the league like Kawhi, we would have been having a way different conversation.

Again, I'm OK with keeping Kemba. It has nothing to do with his skilset though. Basketball-wise, I want us to trade him asap. I just think he has negative trade value. Chances are we can get way better value for him once he enters the final year of his contract.

[gouki88]

It depends on what the return is.  I’d move him for Horford, for instance, and let Marcus play PG.

Horford
Tatum
Brown
Fournier
Smart

That’s a strong lineup, and it would also offer some payroll relief.

TT is better than 2021 Hoford
Having said that; it is time to move Kemba.  Keeping Kemba won’t be pretty and trading won’t be pretty either.

We’ll just have to bite the bullet and hope for the best. 

Just trade him.  It is a losing situation either way.  Rip that bandage!!

TT was better, except for scoring, passing, shooting, defending, FTs, TOs, PFs, blocks, steals, 3PTs, eFG%, TS%, etc.  Oh, and they were about tied in defensive rebounds.

TT is on 1/3 of the salary and is not significantly worse. That’s all that really matters in the comparison to be honest.

I’ve crapped on Al, but TT is not superior at all.

[Celtics4ever]

He wants out now so all this is moot.  Maybe a new coach can talk him out of it.

[spikelovetheCelts]

He wants out now so all this is moot.  Maybe a new coach can talk him out of it.

Clifford as coach maybe that person. I think we should ride with who we have now for next year. We never did all play together.

[Rosco917]

He's an inefficient, highly over paid, volume shooter, unwilling playmaker, who struggles defensively. He also has bad knees...in short he's exactly what this young Celtics team doesn't need...more ISO ball in that first unit.

On the flip side he is a likable guy with a nice smile...by all means keep him.

The meaning of insanity is doing the same thing over and over...oh well, you know the thing.   

[slamtheking]

personally, I don't think the C's will be real contenders if Kemba and Smart are our starting backcourt and am open for trading either or both to improve the roster.  having said that, what's swinging me around to the idea of keeping him for at least this season is the information coming out that Kemba sitting the B2Bs this season was purely precautionary and that he should be able to play them this coming season (particularly with many fewer B2Bs this coming year). 

If he's indeed healthy enough to play almost all the games this season, let's see what we have.  If he plays like his former all-star self, great for us.  if not, he certainly can't be more inconsistent this coming season and he becomes an expiring contract to use as a trade chip to match a large incoming salary.

as for the defensive issues where he's gotten taken apart by getting switched on to bigger players, that's Brad's defensive scheme.  Hopefully the new coach has other ideas on defense that get the most out of Kemba's abilities.  also hoping the new coach has a much better offensive scheme than Brad that also maximizes Kemba's talents.  The bob-and-weave 3 man game at the top of the key with 2 guys standing around in the corners is awful.  leaves 2 guys totally out of position to get back on D which killed us particularly this past year with all the 3 point bricks that were heaved up in Brad's offense.

[makaveli]

Kemba is terrible, ans it is only going to get worse.

Jt, jb, timelord and smart would be u touchables everyone else…have your bags ready.

[Roy H.]

It depends on what the return is.  I’d move him for Horford, for instance, and let Marcus play PG.

Horford
Tatum
Brown
Fournier
Smart

That’s a strong lineup, and it would also offer some payroll relief.

TT is better than 2021 Hoford
Having said that; it is time to move Kemba.  Keeping Kemba won’t be pretty and trading won’t be pretty either.

We’ll just have to bite the bullet and hope for the best. 

Just trade him.  It is a losing situation either way.  Rip that bandage!!

TT was better, except for scoring, passing, shooting, defending, FTs, TOs, PFs, blocks, steals, 3PTs, eFG%, TS%, etc.  Oh, and they were about tied in defensive rebounds.

TT is on 1/3 of the salary and is not significantly worse. That’s all that really matters in the comparison to be honest.

I’ve crapped on Al, but TT is not superior at all.

No, there is no question that Thompson is more cost-effective. Is simply not better. I think reasonable minds can disagree about whether the gap is a close one. I don’t think it is, although Horford will eventually decline and certainly isn’t worth his salary.

[Roy H.]

Kemba is terrible, ans it is only going to get worse.

Jt, jb, timelord and smart would be u touchables everyone else…have your bags ready.

See, Kemba isn’t terrible. He’s overpaid and injury-prone, and he’s a scorer more than a distributor, but he’s not terrible.

The issue is that he is paid like the 16th best player in basketball, when he is probably closer to the 16th best point guard.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Kemba is terrible, ans it is only going to get worse.

Jt, jb, timelord and smart would be u touchables everyone else…have your bags ready.

See, Kemba isn’t terrible. He’s overpaid and injury-prone, and he’s a scorer more than a distributor, but he’s not terrible.

The issue is that he is paid like the 16th best player in basketball, when he is probably closer to the 16th best point guard.

He was at the All Star game in 2020 as a player. He was hurt last year. Is he overpaid, Yes but he is a winner and I know he is going to prove his value next year. It may not be top 5 PG but it it will be close IMO!

[makaveli]

Kemba is terrible, ans it is only going to get worse.

Jt, jb, timelord and smart would be u touchables everyone else…have your bags ready.

See, Kemba isn’t terrible. He’s overpaid and injury-prone, and he’s a scorer more than a distributor, but he’s not terrible.

The issue is that he is paid like the 16th best player in basketball, when he is probably closer to the 16th best point guard.

Terrible was a bit harsh, but i just don't see his game anymore. He was an effective scorer, now he can only make tough jumpshots, and that is there to stay. The defending part of his game is not even worth talking about.

The way that Brad handles Kemba will be detrimental to his tenure as a GM.