Trade Exceptions???

[CBS_Take a Report]

We have 3 that expire in November of 2021. One is large ($11m balance from the Fournier/Hayward TPE) and the other two are marginal.

1. Can these be combined to attract a larger contract or must they be used individually?
2. Regardless of the answer to the above, there are a number of players that could be added as veteran presence that fit under the $11m and could be available.

Under $11:

Larry Nance Jr. (21-22:$10.7)
Nic Batum (21-22:$9.05)
Jeremy Lamb (21-22:$10.5)
Deandre Jordan (21-22:$9.88)
Tomas Satoransky (21-22:$10)
Al Farouq Aminu (21-22: $10.2)
George Hill (21-22:$10.05)
Montrezell Harrell (21/22:$9.72)
Serge Ibaka (21/22:$9.72)
Jae Crowder (21/22:$9.72)
Derrick Jones (21/22:$9.72)
Derrick Favors (21/22:$9.72)
Rajon Rondo (21/22:$7.5)

Couple players that would be good veteran additions and whose team might be open to concept of moving them.

[BoulderMike]

Need to use individually

[Vermont Green]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

[Moranis]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

which is why I have no idea why they used that much of it on Fournier.  Fournier wasn't going to make the difference for Boston this year or basically any year.  It was a wasted trade, especially at the expense of Theis. 

I'm glad Ainge walked away because basically since he made the draft pick trade which he used for Tatum, he has failed miserably. 

[boscel33]

Wonder if they can do a S&T involving Fournier, if he doesn't come back?  Don't know to whom, or for what, kind of just spit balling here.

[boscel33]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

which is why I have no idea why they used that much of it on Fournier.  Fournier wasn't going to make the difference for Boston this year or basically any year.  It was a wasted trade, especially at the expense of Theis. 

I'm glad Ainge walked away because basically since he made the draft pick trade which he used for Tatum, he has failed miserably.

Since he traded for Tatum, Hayward blew an ankle out, Kyrie was a headcase, Kemba's knees have been shot, Covid hit, Hayward hurt another ankle, etc.  I wouldn't say he failed!  Even in there, two of four ECF's.

[BitterJim]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

which is why I have no idea why they used that much of it on Fournier.  Fournier wasn't going to make the difference for Boston this year or basically any year.  It was a wasted trade, especially at the expense of Theis. 

I'm glad Ainge walked away because basically since he made the draft pick trade which he used for Tatum, he has failed miserably.

Not using the TPE on Fournier would have left us open for more moves, but it still would have left the most likely outcome as the TPE expiring without us using it. If you look at the Fournier move as solely for the 2020-21 season then, yeah, it makes no sense and keeping the flexibility would be better. But if we're looking to keep Fournier (and it certainly seems like we are), then giving up just 2 second rounders for him is a great deal.

Everyone would rather get a big name star with the TPE than a player at Fournier's level, but it takes 2 teams to trade. I'll take Fournier over 2 second rounders and the hope that a better deal comes along.

[Moranis]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

which is why I have no idea why they used that much of it on Fournier.  Fournier wasn't going to make the difference for Boston this year or basically any year.  It was a wasted trade, especially at the expense of Theis. 

I'm glad Ainge walked away because basically since he made the draft pick trade which he used for Tatum, he has failed miserably.

Not using the TPE on Fournier would have left us open for more moves, but it still would have left the most likely outcome as the TPE expiring without us using it. If you look at the Fournier move as solely for the 2020-21 season then, yeah, it makes no sense and keeping the flexibility would be better. But if we're looking to keep Fournier (and it certainly seems like we are), then giving up just 2 second rounders for him is a great deal.

Everyone would rather get a big name star with the TPE than a player at Fournier's level, but it takes 2 teams to trade. I'll take Fournier over 2 second rounders and the hope that a better deal comes along.

I'd rather have Theis than Fournier going forward especially since I think it is Smart or Founier and not both.  Smart + Thies + 2 2nd's + full TPE >>>>>> Fournier

[CBS_Take a Report]

TPEs are rarely used and even more rarely used for a max player contract. So I applaud the move to acquire a talented wing player and a contract to expand our salary cap that we can utilize as a trade chip for a better player.

[Somebody]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

which is why I have no idea why they used that much of it on Fournier.  Fournier wasn't going to make the difference for Boston this year or basically any year.  It was a wasted trade, especially at the expense of Theis. 

I'm glad Ainge walked away because basically since he made the draft pick trade which he used for Tatum, he has failed miserably.

Not using the TPE on Fournier would have left us open for more moves, but it still would have left the most likely outcome as the TPE expiring without us using it. If you look at the Fournier move as solely for the 2020-21 season then, yeah, it makes no sense and keeping the flexibility would be better. But if we're looking to keep Fournier (and it certainly seems like we are), then giving up just 2 second rounders for him is a great deal.

Everyone would rather get a big name star with the TPE than a player at Fournier's level, but it takes 2 teams to trade. I'll take Fournier over 2 second rounders and the hope that a better deal comes along.

I'd rather have Theis than Fournier going forward especially since I think it is Smart or Founier and not both.  Smart + Thies + 2 2nd's + full TPE >>>>>> Fournier

^^^

[Vermont Green]

They can't be used in combination in a single transaction but they can be used individually to collect individual assets and then those assets can be consolidated and flipped (allowing for required waiting times between trades).  So bottom line is combining these is not impossible if successive trades are considered but complicated and not very easy or likely.

This list really shows that $11m does not buy all that much in the NBA these days, that is for sure.  Crowder for example, has been a useful player on a good team for PHO but I am not sure he moves much for us.  Most of the other players aren't even starters or probably would not be for us.

which is why I have no idea why they used that much of it on Fournier.  Fournier wasn't going to make the difference for Boston this year or basically any year.  It was a wasted trade, especially at the expense of Theis. 

I'm glad Ainge walked away because basically since he made the draft pick trade which he used for Tatum, he has failed miserably.

Not using the TPE on Fournier would have left us open for more moves, but it still would have left the most likely outcome as the TPE expiring without us using it. If you look at the Fournier move as solely for the 2020-21 season then, yeah, it makes no sense and keeping the flexibility would be better. But if we're looking to keep Fournier (and it certainly seems like we are), then giving up just 2 second rounders for him is a great deal.

Everyone would rather get a big name star with the TPE than a player at Fournier's level, but it takes 2 teams to trade. I'll take Fournier over 2 second rounders and the hope that a better deal comes along.

I'd rather have Theis than Fournier going forward especially since I think it is Smart or Founier and not both.  Smart + Thies + 2 2nd's + full TPE >>>>>> Fournier

^^^

You can still sign and trade Fournier and get a TPE back or a player.  It is not resign or bust.

[footey]

I'm afraid if we keep churning the TPE we will run out of 2nd round picks. 

Depriving us of drafting another MVP.

Not really "Joking".