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Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2021, 08:22:34 AM »

Offline KeepBigAl

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it's stupid like many things Kyrie says and does.  However, it is disrespectful - Don't take this the wrong way, I don't want the guy to get hurt - but a nice clean hard foul next time he goes to the hole would be my idea of an appropriate response. 

Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2021, 09:07:20 AM »

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Why hasn’t the NBA fined Kyrie?
For what? Stepping on a logo after the game?

Players get fined for giving the middle finger to the crowd. Surely this seems worse.
No...it's not. It's not even close. One is professing profanity. The other is simply a childish attempt to try to elicit a response that will hurt his opponent.

Across the league fans would understand a player getting fined for hand signing to the crowd to go eff themselves.

The only people who would even contemplate agreeing to fine Kyrie for what he did are hardcore Celtic fans.

Plenty of non-Celtics fans see it as extremely hostile, disrespectful and antagonistic.
Plenty? More like very little.

And, since when do players get fined for being antagonistic, hostile or disrespectful? Players act that way to refs all the time and don't even get thrown out of games, nevermind fined. They get a technical.

I mean, is what Kyrie did really any worse than players throwing the ball, screaming at the ref and getting ridiculously demonstrative as they plead their case they didn't make a foul? I would say it doesn't even rise to that level. A lot of this stuff doesn't even get a technical.

Sorry, but this simply is not a fineable offense. It's not in any way like flipping the bird off to a crowd.

Have to agree with this one.

Did read someone opining that naming your team "Celtics" is trying to appeal to Europeans at the expense of black people, which might be the single dumbest thing I've read regarding this controversy (and that's no small feat given the level of discourse). Wish I could find it to link to it but such is the nature of social media.
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Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2021, 09:09:12 AM »

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I like it. It's great theater. Obviously, I dislike the guy and root against him. I wish he'd stick to this theatrical stuff and play the villain instead of pretending he's above it all while actually being a villain.

I hope for the rest of his career every time he takes a layup off that leg he misses.

Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2021, 09:29:54 AM »

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Sorry, but this simply is not a fineable offense. It's not in any way like flipping the bird off to a crowd.

And yet, the reaction by fans is much more severe than if they were flipped off.  It’s much more inflammatory than profanity.


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Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2021, 10:03:27 AM »

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Sorry, but this simply is not a fineable offense. It's not in any way like flipping the bird off to a crowd.

And yet, the reaction by fans is much more severe than if they were flipped off.  It’s much more inflammatory than profanity.

Symbols have meaning. It's the same way that people get really upset when they see our flag burned, more so than if someone cussed them out. It's arguable that it could be considered bringing the game into disrepute, the same way Baker Mayfield was suspended for planting the Oklahoma flag on the Ohio State logo. But even if they don't fine Cryrie I'm ok with it...I'll just keep hating the basturd  :angel:
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Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2021, 10:54:34 AM »

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Did anyone in the press ask Kyrie after the game why he stomped on the logo?  I know that they asked him about the bottle incident.  But I could find no reports on his being questioned about the logo.

Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2021, 10:55:56 AM »

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The fan represented the city poorly and will have to pay the price for his actions.  There is no place in sports for this kind of behavior.  Players for all sports should feel safe while they play and when they leave the arena.  Right now they can't.  This is straight up insane what fans are doing and it needs to stop immediately.  I feel so badly for the players and how they are being treated.

On another note Kyrie and the NETS (everyone including Nash) are the most unlikable team in the history of the NBA.  Kyrie is a manipulative jerk who knew what he was doing by calling out the city of Boston and by stomping on the logo.  His actions are degrading and disrespectful.  He knew exactly what he was doing and got what he wanted which was a reaction by a fan to prove his point.  This is the worst part of the ordeal.  You gave Kyrie what he wanted and he used his platform to say See I told you so.  No one will talk about what he did.  The focus will be on that idiot fan for reacting to what Kyrie did. 

The thing that ticks me off a lot as well is where was the team?  Why didn't any of the C's step up and defend their honor and not let this jerk just kick their butts in the game then disrespect them after.  Have more pride C's.  Someone should have confronted Kyrie and told him that.  They don't need to get violent but defend the team and it's pride. 

Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2021, 12:08:20 PM »

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He’s trying to pull your strings. If he p---ed you off he won.

Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2021, 12:34:14 PM »

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The thing that ticks me off a lot as well is where was the team?  Why didn't any of the C's step up and defend their honor and not let this jerk just kick their butts in the game then disrespect them after.  Have more pride C's.  Someone should have confronted Kyrie and told him that.  They don't need to get violent but defend the team and it's pride.

I posted this on another thread, but I suspect the team is focused on how to stop the entire Nets team tonight to avoid the end of the season. The last thing they want to get involved with is a tit-for-tat that's not really basketball related. They have many, many more things to worry about. Let's have a response on the basketball court which will say volumes more than whatever verbal rejoinder they make. That's why we have alumni like KG, and local media, and other commentators, to defend us, since they aren't playing the most important game of the season.

I get it how fans, because they hate rival players or what rival players to, want the players representing them to feel the same hate, because it validates our hate and gives it meaning. Because it makes us feel that if we hate Cryrie's guts, and they are best buddies with him, what does that say about us? But the reality is that a lot of these players know each other, the may socialize outside the game, meet up at charity events, and with social media they're more connected than players ever were. They're also part of a brotherhood that no fan can ever be a part of - that of being an NBA player.

That's why player v player type conflicts are rare these days, unless players genuinely don't like each other. Even then they know better than to distract their focus from their primary job - to win a basketball game. And that's what I want them to do. I could care less that none of them cussed out Cryrie for stepping on the logo after the game, I doubt any of them were even on the court when it happened. I get it, we're mad, we feel dissed that Cryrie stepped on the logo, and he deserves to get the crap booed out of him. But I don't want the players stewing about Cryrie stepping on Lucky's head - I'll do the hating on their behalf, because that's what fans do. What I want them to do is win a game in Brooklyn and bring the series back to Boston so I, and 17 thousand other people, can attend the game and cuss Cryrie out for them  :police:
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Re: Who cares if Irving stomped on our logo???
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2021, 01:30:24 PM »

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I 100% agree that the players need to feel safe and and any kind of abuse from the fans to the players shouldn't be tolerated, but that said, I'm not really upset with the kid who threw the bottle because he was probably reacting to Kyrie and the logo.  like Ogaju said, it wasn't the stomp that was the most offensive part, it was the wiping off of the poop on the sneaker that was the offensive part.  He basically used symbolism to call the Celtics organization dog poop on his shoe.  So I guess the dropping of a harmless piece of garbage near someone is symbolism for assault with a deadly weapon because it's certainly not that in actuality.  This whole thing is another soap opera created by Irving.  He's certainly good at that stuff.