The Celtics Need a Dramatic Change

[Jiri Welsch]

I am sticking with the team no matter what.   I do believe we need changes but I think just upgrading talent around some of the  Jays will be a big help.   It is the bottom half of the roster where I think we could improve most.   I mean we have  PF rated 32, 33 in Hollinger's advanced stats with Grant and Semi being 33rd and 32 respectively.

Kemba is 11th in PG , Tatum is 2nd among SF, Brown is 4th among SG and Rob is 2nd among C's.

We upgrade the four and it would really help us.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/league/east

Then get some people who can actually produce off the bench and it would go a long ways towards helping us.   That would help a great deal.

So trade Smart for a PF...

[PhoSita]

I am sticking with the team no matter what.   I do believe we need changes but I think just upgrading talent around some of the  Jays will be a big help.   It is the bottom half of the roster where I think we could improve most.   I mean we have  PF rated 32, 33 in Hollinger's advanced stats with Grant and Semi being 33rd and 32 respectively.

Kemba is 11th in PG , Tatum is 2nd among SF, Brown is 4th among SG and Rob is 2nd among C's.

We upgrade the four and it would really help us.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/league/east

Then get some people who can actually produce off the bench and it would go a long ways towards helping us.   That would help a great deal.

So trade Smart for a PF...

I wouldn't trade Smart for him unless it was a bigger deal, but I've always liked Kyle Anderson.  Actually, the Grizzlies have a lot of young, cost controlled, useful players.  Basically, their roster is the opposite of the Celtics.  Seems like a potential trade partner.


What about

Smart + Thompson + protected 1st

for

Deanthony Melton + Kyle Anderson

[Moranis]

I think they need to move on from Walker. 

If the Clippers flame out, I think i'd try something like this

Walker, Thompson for Zubac, Beverley, Morris as the basic framework (hard to tell exactly where the numbers will fall on if more needs to come to Boston)

Gives Boston a young big man, who hopefully can pair with Williams, but either way gives a nice 1/2 combo at center. 

Then I'd try to trade Smart for a younger better offensive player.  Someone like Bogdanovic or Bertans would be a nice target.

So if you do that you have roughly (with a spot for the 1st rounder and a F.A.)

PG - Beverley, Pritchard, Edwards
SG - Brown, Fournier, Langford
SF - Tatum, Nesmith
PF - Bertans, Morris
C - R. Williams, Zubac, Wagner

I think that team while not a dramatic change, has a lot more depth, some younger better fitting pieces, etc.  And Boston would still have the draft picks and salary needed to go after someone like Beal should he become available.

have to say this is possibly your best and most reasonable trade proposal I've seen in quite awhile.  I don't think that lineup is a contender by any stretch of the imagination but I think it'd have a bit more consistency on the court.  One thing I would also try to do is shoehorn Edwards into a deal if for no other reason than to free up his wasted roster spot. 

Noticed there's no Semi or GWill on that roster even though they're not in the trade proposals.  Would like to upgrade from them to a real PF -- Bertans isn't who I'd want starting at PF - he's more of a bench player.

I forgot G Will, but I wouldn't bring Semi back in that scenario as the team needs his roster spot (same with the Hornet).