Thunder make an offer for the #1 pick?

[Birdman]

Geez Detroit are crazy!!! I take that in a heartbeat

[footey]

Wow if I’m Detroit I would have a hard time passing on SHA and #6. At 6 it looks like Kuminga will be available, while he is a risky pick he has an elite ceiling thanks to his size and athletic profile. If he hits he could be a slightly bigger Jaylen Brown.

If…

Could be….

Kuminga stock been slipping. Detroit knows the deal.

[Moranis]

Geez Detroit are crazy!!! I take that in a heartbeat

Why? SGA played less than half the season and only has 1 year left on his rookie deal.  The player at 6 is a big drop off from Cade.  That isn't enough value for a prospect as good as Cade.

[footey]

Surprised OKC put SGA on the table. If the really want Cade you gotta throw in 2-3 more of your 86 future firsts.

I imagine that is exactly what Detroit will try to do.

[Moranis]

I'd keep #1 and take Cade with no hesitation.  Detroit will never attract free agents and finally have an opportunity to land a franchise talent.  The fans around here are pining for him, and with his talent level and versatility, he looks to be a highly likely cornerstone.

What makes you so sure that he’s a franchise talent? He barely averaged 20ppg, had one game with 30+ pts. His 3pt and FT percentage was solid, but overall FG% isn’t great. Rebounds well enough, but reached double digit rebounds in a game just twice. Only 3.5 assists per game. He seems like a good prospect, but I don’t see why people are hyping him up like he’s Carmelo Anthony coming out of Syracuse after winning a national championship. Cunningham lost in what, the second round of the tournament? I don’t see a player that’s a lock to be an all star like we did with Carmelo and KD.

Carmelo only averaged 22.2 ppg at Syracuse.  And I know Cuse won the title with Melo, but his 6 NCAA tournament games this was his scoring: 17, 13, 18, 20, 33, 20.  Scoring in college is just a different animal to scoring in the pros.

As for Durant, he lost in the 2nd round as well.  Durant was a better scorer at 25.8 ppg and a much better rebounder at 11.1 rpg, but KD only had 1.3 apg and 2.8 tpg.  He showed almost no passing ability at all.  And for as good a shooter as Durant has become, Cade is basically the exact same shooter in college that Durant was (KD 40.4% on 5.8 attempts, Cade 40.0% on 5.7 attempts - Cade better from the line, KD better from 2). 

All that said, I also don't think you can put much stock in college numbers.  Some of the best college players make terrible pros, while some very middling college players make excellent pros.  They quite simply aren't super comparable. 

[Vermont Green]

Draft picks are tough.  Look at Fultz and several other sure fire picks that turned out to be busts.  You could be getting a cornerstone player, you could get a bust.  Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has a very difficult name but seems like a really good player.  In the Jaylen Brown range.  He is coming up for a big contract but a RFA.  You don't know if Cade will ever be even as good as SGA.

If I am Detroit, I think I do this trade.

[Csfan1984]

 I would have declined now but be open to a deal when their pick comes up. It depends on who is available.

[Moranis]

Draft picks are tough.  Look at Fultz and several other sure fire picks that turned out to be busts.  You could be getting a cornerstone player, you could get a bust.  Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has a very difficult name but seems like a really good player.  In the Jaylen Brown range.  He is coming up for a big contract but a RFA.  You don't know if Cade will ever be even as good as SGA.

If I am Detroit, I think I do this trade.

He can't even play ball right now though.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938266-thunders-shai-gilgeous-alexander-foot-injury-diagnosed-as-significant-tear

[Goldstar88]

I'd keep #1 and take Cade with no hesitation.  Detroit will never attract free agents and finally have an opportunity to land a franchise talent.  The fans around here are pining for him, and with his talent level and versatility, he looks to be a highly likely cornerstone.

What makes you so sure that he’s a franchise talent? He barely averaged 20ppg, had one game with 30+ pts. His 3pt and FT percentage was solid, but overall FG% isn’t great. Rebounds well enough, but reached double digit rebounds in a game just twice. Only 3.5 assists per game. He seems like a good prospect, but I don’t see why people are hyping him up like he’s Carmelo Anthony coming out of Syracuse after winning a national championship. Cunningham lost in what, the second round of the tournament? I don’t see a player that’s a lock to be an all star like we did with Carmelo and KD.

He's incredibly talented, versatile, and has a high IQ.  Great playmaker both shooting and passing.  Potentially a PG in a 6'8" body with defensive versatility who can play multiple positions.  I wouldn't seriously compare any prospect to Luka's already solidified greatness, but he has similar strengths and few weaknesses; if he's a fraction as good, he should be a franchise player.

When the Luke-Trey trade happened, I thought Atlanta got shafted.  I think Dallas still won in a big way, but Trey has proven to be an elite talent.  My concern for ATL was that Trey needed to perform, talent-wise, among the most elite players in the league to be a star.  He has, but that's a gamble with a high pick.  And Cade will never be reliant on his athleticism or shooting to be a great and impactful player.

I just feel like if he was that talented he would have had bigger games and done more in the tournament. In terms of his playmaking ability and potentially running the point, he only averaged 3.5 assists per game and as Gouki pointed out, he turns the ball
Over a lot. I honestly was more impressed with Michael Beasley coming out of college. His shooting splits were similar to Cade, but he averaged 26pts/12reb per game. Much more athletic too.

[ETNCeltics]

If I'm Detroit, there is no offer that pries the pick away from me.

Cade is the best chance they have at acquiring a franchise/elite/generational player. SGA is a good player, and maybe they get someone good with the 6th pick, but there's likely only one real chance for them to acquire a franchise player right now, and that's CC. I wouldn't care if OKC offered me 5 first rounders, no way I do that deal.

[Vermont Green]

Draft picks are tough.  Look at Fultz and several other sure fire picks that turned out to be busts.  You could be getting a cornerstone player, you could get a bust.  Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has a very difficult name but seems like a really good player.  In the Jaylen Brown range.  He is coming up for a big contract but a RFA.  You don't know if Cade will ever be even as good as SGA.

If I am Detroit, I think I do this trade.

He can't even play ball right now though.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938266-thunders-shai-gilgeous-alexander-foot-injury-diagnosed-as-significant-tear

Of course, a serious injury would affect his value in a trade.  Maybe this is what is scaring off Detroit.  I have not seen anything that indicates this may be career threatening or there are overall durability issues but maybe there are.  If SGA is in fact "damaged goods" so to speak, then no, I don't make this trade.

[Moranis]

Draft picks are tough.  Look at Fultz and several other sure fire picks that turned out to be busts.  You could be getting a cornerstone player, you could get a bust.  Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has a very difficult name but seems like a really good player.  In the Jaylen Brown range.  He is coming up for a big contract but a RFA.  You don't know if Cade will ever be even as good as SGA.

If I am Detroit, I think I do this trade.

He can't even play ball right now though.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938266-thunders-shai-gilgeous-alexander-foot-injury-diagnosed-as-significant-tear

Of course, a serious injury would affect his value in a trade.  Maybe this is what is scaring off Detroit.  I have not seen anything that indicates this may be career threatening or there are overall durability issues but maybe there are.  If SGA is in fact "damaged goods" so to speak, then no, I don't make this trade.

That sort of tear you can generally come back from, however he has 1 year until you are paying him a max contract.  I like SGA a lot, but there is no way I make that trade if I'm Detroit.  As I've said, if it was SGA and 2 or 3, then I might do it, but not for 6, and I only might do it.  Cade is a top level prospect and the only one in this draft.  He should be at worst be a very good player and certainly has the skill set to be truly great.  He is just in another class as a prospect from SGA and everyone else in this draft.