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a comparison of "small" teams
« on: July 30, 2019, 12:44:32 PM »

Offline wiley

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What is the last really small team, and by small I don't mean there aren't bigs on the roster but that the best players are overwhelmingly not bigs, that you remember? 

I really liked the 2007/8 Warriors team.

Baron Davis
Stephen Jackson
Pietrus (a future Celtic who was a stud for us before injury)
M. Barnes
C. Webber

Well, i forgot Webber was on that team (was confused with Run TMC Warriors).  I was going to compare that team to the current Celtics.  Can't remember what kind of passer B. Davis was...help me out.  Certainly a big-wing heavy team like the current Celtics.  But we lack the Webber clone. 

1.  Imagine the current C's with one fewer wings and Webber instead! 

2.  That team was a bit nasty.  Current C's are nice, which is ok.  Nice can work too if it's not passive.

3.  Who's the closest thing to Webber in the league today? 

4.  Back then, bigs were more important than today. Could that fact bode well for this C's team?  Or is
     the no-Webber factor too much to even make a comparison.

5.  Do we have anything at all in common with Run TMC, that other Warriors squad I liked?






Re: a comparison of "small" teams
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2019, 12:52:08 PM »

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What is the last really small team, and by small I don't mean there aren't bigs on the roster but that the best players are overwhelmingly not bigs, that you remember? 

I really liked the 2007/8 Warriors team.

Baron Davis
Stephen Jackson
Pietrus (a future Celtic who was a stud for us before injury)
M. Barnes
C. Webber

Well, i forgot Webber was on that team (was confused with Run TMC Warriors).  I was going to compare that team to the current Celtics.  Can't remember what kind of passer B. Davis was...help me out.  Certainly a big-wing heavy team like the current Celtics.  But we lack the Webber clone. 

1.  Imagine the current C's with one fewer wings and Webber instead! 

2.  That team was a bit nasty.  Current C's are nice, which is ok.  Nice can work too if it's not passive.

3.  Who's the closest thing to Webber in the league today? 

4.  Back then, bigs were more important than today. Could that fact bode well for this C's team?  Or is
     the no-Webber factor too much to even make a comparison.

5.  Do we have anything at all in common with Run TMC, that other Warriors squad I liked?

1. Ok, Done
2. Sure I guess, but BDiddy was a killer when Healthy
3. Maybe Griffin?
4. No webber factor makes it hard

Re: a comparison of "small" teams
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 01:24:01 PM »

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What is the last really small team, and by small I don't mean there aren't bigs on the roster but that the best players are overwhelmingly not bigs, that you remember? 



I mean, the Curry / Klay / Dray Warriors sans KD is the most obvious answer.

The "Death Lineup" didn't have anybody taller than 6'8''.  I know that Draymond is technically a PF and he was playing at C in the "Death Lineup," but his skillset is nothing like a traditional big man. Draymond would have played exclusively at SF two decades ago.

Andrew Bogut did play a significant role on that team, though.


Also, they stopped being a "small" team when they added 7 foot KD, of course.  He's technically a wing, but he's big enough to play the 4 in any system.



I'd also point to the 2015 Houston Rockets.  They won 56 games despite the fact that their best big men were Donatas Motiejunas, Dwight Howard (washed, only played 41 games), Josh Smith (washed), and Terrence Jones.





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What is the last really small team, and by small I don't mean there aren't bigs on the roster but that the best players are overwhelmingly not bigs, that you remember? 

On the 2016 Blazers the top 4 per 36 scorers were all guards - Lillard, McCollum, Crabbe and Gerald Henderson, and their best bigs were Mason Plumlee, Meyers Leonard and Ed Davis. They managed to ride it to the 2nd round.

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What is the last really small team, and by small I don't mean there aren't bigs on the roster but that the best players are overwhelmingly not bigs, that you remember? 

On the 2016 Blazers the top 4 per 36 scorers were all guards - Lillard, McCollum, Crabbe and Gerald Henderson, and their best bigs were Mason Plumlee, Meyers Leonard and Ed Davis. They managed to ride it to the 2nd round.


Good call, I forgot that the Blazers were in a similar situation to the current Celtics in terms of big men between Aldridge and Nurkic.
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What is the last really small team, and by small I don't mean there aren't bigs on the roster but that the best players are overwhelmingly not bigs, that you remember? 

On the 2016 Blazers the top 4 per 36 scorers were all guards - Lillard, McCollum, Crabbe and Gerald Henderson, and their best bigs were Mason Plumlee, Meyers Leonard and Ed Davis. They managed to ride it to the 2nd round.


Good call, I forgot that the Blazers were in a similar situation to the current Celtics in terms of big men between Aldridge and Nurkic.

Even more similar to us, in last year's playoffs their best big was Enes Kanter.