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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2019, 10:56:32 AM »

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i don't think Danny will,spend for Vuc ....although I wish he would

he ll probably go after Adams ....Danny is bargain shopper ,  that why imwas excited when he traded for Kyrie ....i,as stunned Boston , wanting stars !   oh well so,much for,that dream ...maybe another GM someday

I think he will. Shams Charania reported the Celts are targeting him.
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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2019, 11:09:02 AM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2019, 11:17:29 AM »

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If Smart is our starting PG, we are in big trouble..

I disagree.   He is better at the point than at shooting guard.   Your saying his shot is better than his distribution skills?   Thanks for the laugh and making me chuckle all day!

Agreed. Smart’s passing and willingness to quickly move the ball are his best attributes on offense.

Smart had his best year and his shot improved a lot IMO but I still think he should be running for sixth man of the year. When he starts his hustle goes way down which is normal for a guy that thinks he's going to play 30mpg, at 25 mpg you get the best of him IMO. Also I've seen Smart come down with the ball and just jack up shots like he's Curry! He can pass well but at times becomes delusional with the idea he is a scorer!!

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2019, 11:24:43 AM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2019, 12:02:32 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2019, 12:12:57 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.
I posted in another thread that if we are helping teams clear cap space..... it’s in Celtics best interest that Kemba , Vucevic and butler switch teams while Harris stays with the Sixers... this will really eat up a lot of the cap space available this summer

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2019, 12:13:19 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.

Looking into OKC's pick situation I don't know if they could even send us a first, their 2020 and 2022 picks have been traded already (protected 1-20 and 1-14 respectively, and turning into two seconds if they don't convey)

I can't see them sending a 2024 or later pick just to save some tax money this year
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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2019, 12:17:26 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.

Looking into OKC's pick situation I don't know if they could even send us a first, their 2020 and 2022 picks have been traded already (protected 1-20 and 1-14 respectively, and turning into two seconds if they don't convey)

I can't see them sending a 2024 or later pick just to save some tax money this year

Pick swaps then?  I think Danny is doing something we don’t see coming, I don’t think it’s Adams.
2019 historical draft.  Pick 12

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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2019, 12:42:07 PM »

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Imagine its Kawhi. Just shocks the whole league and Danny goes full Red smoking cigars at games (ignoring in this fantasy world his heart issues.)

I'd straight up feint.

Now I'm back in the real world. It's probably Vuc or Russell. Honestly I'm conflicted. Not sure which way I want this to go. I'd want to maintain flexibility going forward, but you dont want to just waste your cap space. Ideally you would put pieces around the Jays that can help them optimize their talents.

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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2019, 12:50:09 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.

Looking into OKC's pick situation I don't know if they could even send us a first, their 2020 and 2022 picks have been traded already (protected 1-20 and 1-14 respectively, and turning into two seconds if they don't convey)

I can't see them sending a 2024 or later pick just to save some tax money this year

Pick swaps then?  I think Danny is doing something we don’t see coming, I don’t think it’s Adams.

That would have to be in 2021 (2023 seems too far out for them to consider), but they project to still be a playoff team at that point. Unless we get a 2021 first in another deal, we would have to be swapping it with our own pick, and I don't think they would be bad enough (or we would be good enough) for that to be worth it

Honestly, if OKC can't find a team willing to take Adams off their hands for free, they may need to trade a player for a pick first (or in a big 3 team trade)
I'm bitter.

Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2019, 01:00:04 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.

Looking into OKC's pick situation I don't know if they could even send us a first, their 2020 and 2022 picks have been traded already (protected 1-20 and 1-14 respectively, and turning into two seconds if they don't convey)

I can't see them sending a 2024 or later pick just to save some tax money this year

Pick swaps then?  I think Danny is doing something we don’t see coming, I don’t think it’s Adams.

That would have to be in 2021 (2023 seems too far out for them to consider), but they project to still be a playoff team at that point. Unless we get a 2021 first in another deal, we would have to be swapping it with our own pick, and I don't think they would be bad enough (or we would be good enough) for that to be worth it

Honestly, if OKC can't find a team willing to take Adams off their hands for free, they may need to trade a player for a pick first (or in a big 3 team trade)

TP for looking into the Thunder picks, this was news to me.  Any young/cheap infighting talent the Thunder could send our way in the trade to make up for their lack of picks? 
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Re: Danny must have a deal in place
« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2019, 01:29:32 PM »

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More I look at tape, man, I think Steven Adams would fit very well into our lineup. Would bring a real physicality to our team.  Great defense. He moves very well for a big. He is not as talented offensively as Vuc, but clearly a better defender, and a more attractive contract, and younger (he is only 25!!).

I could see us using him a lot in pick and role, especially with Hayward.  Adams sets screen, creates mismatch, and Hayward either dumps to Adams for slam, puts up a floater, or dishes to Tatum or Brown for 3.

Maybe with left over cap space, we sign Redick, who would get a lot of open looks at 3.

I think he would fit very well too.  He won’t take shots away from Hayward, Brown, and Tatum and does everything Baynes does only better maybe much better, and young enough where we could re-sign him in 2 years if it works out really well (or use as salary filler in a big trade).  He would allow us to play small at PF. On top of that we might get a first out it.

My question though there are probably several teams that could do the same thing with lots of cap space, and is OKC desperate enough luxury tax wise to do this while they have George and Westbrook.   I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy with this type of move.

They reportedly are considering trading him as a salary dump, as they are deep into luxury tax territory.

Saltlover thinks a team could trade for him AND get additional consideration (a first round pick) for doing the favor of taking him. I am skeptical that this is true for the reason you stated: A lot of salary cap room available for teams that strike out in FA market to want to take him and absorb his deal.

We will see.

Looking into OKC's pick situation I don't know if they could even send us a first, their 2020 and 2022 picks have been traded already (protected 1-20 and 1-14 respectively, and turning into two seconds if they don't convey)

I can't see them sending a 2024 or later pick just to save some tax money this year

Pick swaps then?  I think Danny is doing something we don’t see coming, I don’t think it’s Adams.

That would have to be in 2021 (2023 seems too far out for them to consider), but they project to still be a playoff team at that point. Unless we get a 2021 first in another deal, we would have to be swapping it with our own pick, and I don't think they would be bad enough (or we would be good enough) for that to be worth it

Honestly, if OKC can't find a team willing to take Adams off their hands for free, they may need to trade a player for a pick first (or in a big 3 team trade)

TP for looking into the Thunder picks, this was news to me.  Any young/cheap infighting talent the Thunder could send our way in the trade to make up for their lack of picks?

Love Grant but doubt they'd include him.