A blank statement was all that ridiculousness warranted.
I didnt say it was worse, do you even know what he had done? All it did was set back time. The deal is not even close you seriously reaching and it's laughable.
Hayward was the same injury. And he is farther behind because he had a second clean up. Also he is coming back to a stacked team harder to get minutes on it.
First off PG had the same injury two years later he is having his best season and in the MVP conversation so why not believe Hayward will recover? Also Tatum hasn't lost sheen, what you forget is last season he finished strong because he was the head guy this season he isnt and that isnt due to his play but the return of Hayward and Irving. Also you still dont address my big points the potential Davis being a rental or the fact other top ten guys went for less than you want to give.
Not a chance Pelicans get that much for Davis.
Boston trades Hayward, Tatum, LAC pick and Boston 2019 pick and Boston 2021 pick and get Davis and Moore.
People are forgetting it's up to the team trading for Davis to get him to stay or else he is a rental player. You don't trade a top 10 potential player for a rental let alone two first and a former all star still in his prime. Please refer to past deals of PG, Leonard, and others in the top 10 the teams didn't get what you are offering.
Hayward may never return to form.
And value is not based on what he was 3 years ago. Its on the now and his percieved future value.
All we know is right now he is a 30plus mill per year slightly below average performer. You would be dealing him on potential.
And while Tatum may have top 10 potential...maybe...that luster has lost a little sheen this season. And I am not sure he hits the top 10 potential playing in a boston with all the talent here ahead of him.
Hayward and gordons injuries were very different and George was showing much better far sooner than Hayward has.
Your point on tatum has proven my point. Tatum has looked regressed and has been down in all statistical categories despite opportunity for improved efficiency with players back. And like I stated and you supported....tatum may have top 10 potential but I doubt he hits it here with all the assets the team has.
And in regards to Davis possibly being a rental. If he is on a team with Irving, hayward, Smart, Brown winning tonnes of games he will not leave.
George was traded for a similar package.
My point on Tatum doesn't prove your point it's about other guys now featured. If we were going through Tatum like we did last season's end he would be doing as good or better. Irving requires the ball. Hayward needs minutes.
You can't asume a guy who asks to go to LA will accept he will stay in Boston. Completely different cities.
And lol, go look at the PG trade if you think they are comparable. Oli, and Sabonis were mediocre at best for their careers and prospects going foward. Oli blew up which no one predicted after the trade and Sabonis is still just mediocre to this day. No one on Hayward's or Tatum's level or exuse me, three first.
Ok so it was argued that Hayward injury was worse than Georges and you are arguing that haywards injury was worse.
It was argued that tatum might not hit top 10 level of a player on the celtics because of the talent on the celtics and you argued that tatum isnt looking as good because of other players on the celtics.
And lastly you debate about trade values. I see Hayward as what he currently is...which is sabonis level impact. And Tatum has a slightly better producer and is younger than what dipo was 3 years ago in OKC.
But Davis is a top 3 player and george, when traded was top 15 arguably top 10
As for Davis being a better player. He is better but PG was more accomplished and is considered a bigger need around the league because the way the game is played today. Lets also not forget Cousins was having more success when Davis was out for the Pelicans than Davis had when Cousins was out so there is a question on how good Davis' impact is. The C's are stacked at the wing so you don't see the drought at that position that teams have. Fans take a talent like Tatum foregranted. But you need a PG, Tatum, KD, LeBron, Gianis, ect to compete in today's game. PFs are less impactful.
Well for the first part tou disagree but do nothing to support you claim other that just a blanket statement that I am to accept. So let just drop that part
On Davis' impact in comparison to Georges. Indy seems ok without george too over a much larger sample size than NOP without cousins.
And pretty sure Davis was dominate in the playoffs without cousins.
And again all you do is reach. Let me know when the Pacers even look like a ECF participant like they did with PG or if Davis impact equals actual wins for his team.
Davis' career winshare is 72 games (7 seasons)
Paul george in MORE seasons is 64 games (9 SEASONS 1 lost to injury)
Davis is worth much more than George.
And yet only thing that matters is actual winning which is my point not stats. PG has gotten to a conference finals, made the playoffs more and plays a more important position for today's game. They are very comparable unlike the deal you suggest. Just look at it
Oli never made an all star showed little improvement over four years and Sabonis was a disappointment for PG
You want Hayward a recovering player who did show improvement each year has made and all-star, along with Tatum a very promising second year player, and three 1st for AD.
Those deals are light years apart for very comparable players.