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Title: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 16, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
Make all your comments and posts here for other games. Enjoy!  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on October 16, 2018, 11:01:01 PM
PG is looking thinner.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 16, 2018, 11:47:26 PM
Chris Webber is such an unbearable hyperbole merchant.

"Before his injury DeMarcus was the best big man in the league."

He wasn't even the best big on his team!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 17, 2018, 12:25:42 AM
Schroder is such a good pickup for OKC!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on October 17, 2018, 12:37:30 AM
Chris Webber is such an unbearable hyperbole merchant.

"Before his injury DeMarcus was the best big man in the league."

He wasn't even the best big on his team!

Pretty much every national announcer is terrible, and heís certainly no exception.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 17, 2018, 12:53:20 AM
Chris Webber is such an unbearable hyperbole merchant.

"Before his injury DeMarcus was the best big man in the league."

He wasn't even the best big on his team!

Pretty much every national announcer is terrible, and heís certainly no exception.
Completely agree. I just want Tommy, Mike & Scal for every single game, is that too much to ask for?!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 17, 2018, 01:17:13 AM
okc held tough, needed RW. they may be a solid team with melo out.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 17, 2018, 01:20:50 AM
okc held tough, needed RW. they may be a solid team with melo out.
Was about to say, they look far better with having replaced Melo with Schroder
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 17, 2018, 01:43:39 AM
I'm guessing nobody watched the ring ceremony tonight because we too busy celebrating Celtics win (and for some of us, Sox win)  :laugh:
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on October 17, 2018, 07:24:08 PM
I cannot believe Orlando is starting Vucevic over Mo Bamba!

When will they ever learn that Vucevic is not a winning center. He is too bad on defense.

Play Mo Bamba and trust the young guys to scrap it out on defense and push the tempo.

Move on from Vucevic and that old tried formula already.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 17, 2018, 07:48:03 PM
I cannot believe Orlando is starting Vucevic over Mo Bamba!

When will they ever learn that Vucevic is not a winning center. He is too bad on defense.

Play Mo Bamba and trust the young guys to scrap it out on defense and push the tempo.

Move on from Vucevic and that old tried formula already.
That might be the exact idea for this season, lol. Another top pick and off we go!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 17, 2018, 08:19:00 PM
Anyone know why I can't leave a comment or a reply in the new game thread?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 17, 2018, 08:37:12 PM
Anyone know why I can't leave a comment or a reply in the new game thread?
Only thing I can think of is that itíll be locked until closer to the game? Unsure why
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 17, 2018, 08:39:41 PM
Anyone know why I can't leave a comment or a reply in the new game thread?
Only thing I can think of is that itíll be locked until closer to the game? Unsure why

Maybe so.There are two responses already so maybe it's something else?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 17, 2018, 08:47:24 PM
Love looks terrible and he may be one of the worst defensive bigs in the game.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 17, 2018, 08:51:32 PM
Anthony Davis is on a whole other level....

At the half Davis has 18 pts 8-10 and 8 reb 6 ast 3 blks 1 stl and 0 TO
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on October 17, 2018, 09:24:33 PM
Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 17, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.

The Pelicans have a very good team.

Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on October 17, 2018, 09:43:30 PM
Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.

The Pelicans have a very good team.

Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...

Pelicans have already scored 91 points and there's still 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They're a solid team, but this would imply a jump to GSW level offense.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 17, 2018, 09:46:20 PM
Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.

The Pelicans have a very good team.

Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...

Pelicans have already scored 91 points and there's still 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They're a solid team, but this would imply a jump to GSW level offense.

They have a good starting 5 and Randle is giving them a push off the bench!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Atzar on October 17, 2018, 09:47:33 PM
Rockets are getting flattened. 

I know they want that rematch with GS, but they have to get there first. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on October 17, 2018, 09:54:59 PM
Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.

The Pelicans have a very good team.

Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...

Pelicans have already scored 91 points and there's still 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They're a solid team, but this would imply a jump to GSW level offense.

They have a good starting 5 and Randle is giving them a push off the bench!

I'm not saying they're a bad team. But Houston's defense is really bad right now. They've given up 100 points in 3 quarters. That's a huge regression from where they were last year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Atzar on October 17, 2018, 10:03:58 PM
Pelicansí lack of depth is starting to show.  Tired.

EDIT:  And just as I type that, three straight buckets.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: smokeablount on October 17, 2018, 10:12:11 PM
Excited for Mavs-Suns, the kids, Ayton vs Doncic!  Bookerís back and squaring off with DSJ!

Also, the Kings play Utah... How ugly will it get??
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 17, 2018, 10:13:42 PM
Jarrett Allen looks like a steal. When RHJ comes back that could be a fun elite defending 4/5 duo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 17, 2018, 10:32:17 PM
Kings kicking the crap out of the Jazz early on.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mr. dee on October 17, 2018, 10:36:49 PM
Welp. Kings is pounding the Jazz early.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on October 17, 2018, 10:42:44 PM
Harrison Barnes is out?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on October 17, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
The Deandre Jordan and Luka Doncic tandem is really fun.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Adelaide Celt on October 17, 2018, 11:21:23 PM
Kings kicking the crap out of the Jazz early on.

Welp. Kings is pounding the Jazz early.

Aaaaand Jazz up by 13 at half time
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 17, 2018, 11:23:56 PM
Kings kicking the crap out of the Jazz early on.

Welp. Kings is pounding the Jazz early.

Aaaaand Jazz up by 13 at half time

looking much better for our pick, just where we want them.


aww hell, kings are back...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 18, 2018, 01:03:49 AM
Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 18, 2018, 01:26:42 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/2337147632998646/?type=3&eid=ARClwHHzNHXWuay5mmcNzl_Evw1B_hmfq2FF4gcXmhkrpHLsCxCHjkp0R4np8XwdMK1lhVfgzaVeVsLC&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARAXuppbe_9haFHNFQkdTaU3OwpCCJ5vJQWGmmEOOo3jNHPKxqG****yHOrk3zlv9uf_C3caW8YPtbhsEKdbpvp1yZFLecBtFfqKQqwqk8Zo1Uub5qCzsTMMshrsjbCOUV-ig3NUwcwP4pVBTbhQ7CD5BCtz2wfHxOtMgxQEFRsmIQps4T0j5U_sApGLvshnGBcMO8hU7a5s&__tn__=EEHH-R)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 18, 2018, 02:08:13 AM
Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?

did u see KAT's line? yuck.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on October 18, 2018, 08:47:27 AM
Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?

did u see KAT's line? yuck.

22 minutes for the Wolves 200 million dollar man.

There is a power play going on right now. Thibs and Butler vs Ownership and KAT.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: smokeablount on October 18, 2018, 08:57:41 AM
Celtics start 1-0, with a great chance to start 4-0 if they beat Toronto Friday, Kings start 0-1, hooray!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Birdman on October 18, 2018, 09:10:08 AM
Been saying this all summer: watch out for the Indiana Pacers..no one talking bout this team and i pick them to finish 3rd in the East
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 18, 2018, 09:19:24 AM
Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?

did u see KAT's line? yuck.

22 minutes for the Wolves 200 million dollar man.

There is a power play going on right now. Thibs and Butler vs Ownership and KAT.
He fouled out, but the bigger concern has to be only 6 shots (I mean Dieng had 8 in 2 more minutes then Towns).  Of course that falls in line with last year as well (not many shots, but super efficient - obviously he wasn't super efficient yesterday).  Does Towns pass up shots or does the offense just not create shots for him?  I don't watch the Wolves enough to know that answer.  If it is the former that would be a concern, if it is the latter maybe it is time for new coaches.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 18, 2018, 10:16:49 AM
Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?

did u see KAT's line? yuck.

22 minutes for the Wolves 200 million dollar man.

There is a power play going on right now. Thibs and Butler vs Ownership and KAT.
He fouled out, but the bigger concern has to be only 6 shots (I mean Dieng had 8 in 2 more minutes then Towns).  Of course that falls in line with last year as well (not many shots, but super efficient - obviously he wasn't super efficient yesterday).  Does Towns pass up shots or does the offense just not create shots for him?  I don't watch the Wolves enough to know that answer.  If it is the former that would be a concern, if it is the latter maybe it is time for new coaches.

Towns doesn't pass up many good shots but he isn't very assertive about getting the ball when it's not in his hands. He's pretty passive without the ball and lets the game come to him, which isn't a positive for a guy with his abilities. He also has a tendency to just hang out by the 3 point line - it's hard to say if that's him or the offensive scheme but it contributes to the passivity.

Basically the offense isn't feeding him many shots but he isn't being proactive about getting them either. He tends to take pretty good advantage of the shot opportunities he does get but the general passivity means active defenses can often shut him down.

Also can't rule out that Jimmy just plain took his soul last week in practice Kwame Brown style but we'll need more data on that.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bdm860 on October 18, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
So what was up with Jrue Holiday's headband?  I feel like that can't be legal (not complaining about it, just surprised).

(https://media.giphy.com/media/YjHwkACgJjQVqzW923/giphy.gif)

Looked like the Karate Kid or Solid Snake out there.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61aD93njUTL._SY741_.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Surferdad on October 18, 2018, 01:03:18 PM
Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
Owner just stated again yesterday that they are committed to trading him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on October 18, 2018, 02:33:14 PM
Been saying this all summer: watch out for the Indiana Pacers..no one talking bout this team and i pick them to finish 3rd in the East

TP for making a statement I agree upon  ;). 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Atzar on October 18, 2018, 08:21:34 PM
Fultz is still broken, man.  He just had a wide open corner three and passed it up to drive into three defenders.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 08:27:42 PM
Fultz is still broken, man.  He just had a wide open corner three and passed it up to drive into three defenders.

But Embiid is going wild...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on October 18, 2018, 08:34:13 PM
Bulls look nice.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
Bulls look nice.

Phillies defense is a sieve....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Atzar on October 18, 2018, 08:38:18 PM
Fultz is still broken, man.  He just had a wide open corner three and passed it up to drive into three defenders.

But Embiid is going wild...

Bulls should have started Lopez.  He canít stop Embiid either, but heís the only one on the roster with a prayer.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 08:44:36 PM
Fultz just doesn't look good out there, at anything. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on October 18, 2018, 08:44:57 PM
I think Lavine is like 85% of Devin Booker. Explosive scorer. Can create for others. Poor defender. Smooth athlete.

If he could absorb some contact and draw fouls, he would be even closer.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: knuckleballer on October 18, 2018, 08:48:28 PM
How's Carter Jr. looking?  I was really hoping the Celts could swing a trade for him during the draft.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 18, 2018, 08:49:40 PM
Fultz passed up on shooting a wide open 3

Think I heard the fans are starting to boo Fultz lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 18, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Fultz is like a robot that plays basketball. Ainge definitely picked on his ho hum attitude above all else.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 09:04:07 PM
I have to say I am enjoying watching these young bulls tonight.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on October 18, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
I know the Bulls are bad but seeing Philly up 26 points in the 3rd makes me feel even better about the Celtics' win last night.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 10:26:36 PM
I know the Bulls are bad but seeing Philly up 26 points in the 3rd makes me feel even better about the Celtics' win last night.

if the bulls could stop taking bad 3 point shots they would be more in this game.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on October 18, 2018, 10:33:24 PM
I know the Bulls are bad but seeing Philly up 26 points in the 3rd makes me feel even better about the Celtics' win last night.

if the bulls could stop taking bad 3 point shots they would be more in this game.

Too many unrepentant gunners who have no interest in playing defense.  The LaVine-Parker-Portis trio is bad news for winning, but great news for tanking.

The future of that team is in Markkanen/Carter, and maybe Dunn.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 10:54:31 PM
well the lakers / trailblazers game is starting out interesting
man I hate Rondo on the lakers
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 10:59:51 PM
well the lakers / trailblazers game is starting out interesting
man I hate Rondo on the lakers

The Lakers are a whiny group...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 18, 2018, 11:01:17 PM
Gosh LeBron looks disgusting in yellow.

So does Rondo.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 18, 2018, 11:06:13 PM
Well, Lebron is still Lebron, and the Lakers look pretty good because of it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 18, 2018, 11:07:20 PM
Well, Lebron is still Lebron, and the Lakers look pretty good because of it.

Perhaps LeBron may do better in the West with this roster...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:10:40 PM
ok....been watching ...and im gonna be called a ref hater ...

but this Portland vs Laa game is soooooo lopsided FOR LA ...it is really pathetic on part of the NBA


They are calling fouls on Porland anytime people get near the Whiner .


smh
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 18, 2018, 11:14:25 PM
A lot of Lakers fans in Portland tonight...haven't seen them since the 'ol Kobe days. Look how times have changed.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:14:44 PM
ok....been watching ...and im gonna be called a ref hater ...

but this Portland vs Laa game is soooooo lopsided FOR LA ...it is really pathetic on part of the NBA


They are calling fouls on Porland anytime people get near the Whiner .


smh

The Lakers can really flay those arms and jerk those heads back....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 11:15:29 PM
I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.

Really pushing the pace.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:17:51 PM
ok....been watching ...and im gonna be called a ref hater ...

but this Portland vs Laa game is soooooo lopsided FOR LA ...it is really pathetic on part of the NBA


They are calling fouls on Porland anytime people get near the Whiner .


smh

The Lakers can really flay those arms and jerk those heads back....

lakers are more dislikeable for me than ever with Laker Rondo and his new buddy Bron
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:18:10 PM
I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.

Really pushing the pace.

I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....

They just gave up 34 points in there 1st quarter...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:20:15 PM
what a cast of players on LA .

whos who of misfits

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 11:20:32 PM
I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.

Really pushing the pace.

I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....

Yeah that isn't happening lol...I think the lakers are going to try and run people ragged and hope they can outscore everyone.

Lebron looks basically the same...such an odd mix of players lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:21:54 PM
I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.

Really pushing the pace.

I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....

They just gave up 34 points in there 1st quarter...


they butter the bread of the refs ...thats where their advantage is .....refs letting bron do anything he wants ......thats just hard to overcome
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.

Really pushing the pace.

I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....

They just gave up 34 points in there 1st quarter...


they butter the bread of the refs ...thats where their advantage is .....refs letting bron do anything he wants ......thats just hard to overcome

No way LeBron is going to run all season...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 18, 2018, 11:23:47 PM
The Fakes will be fun to watch but I just donít see LeBron being all to play at this pace all season. Lakers bench will be pretty meh.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:24:31 PM
Lakers minus bron are only a few games better than Cavs IMO
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:24:47 PM
Cool Hayward cartoon ad.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:25:44 PM
The Fakes will be fun to watch but I just donít see LeBron being all to play at this pace all season. Lakers bench will be pretty meh.


exactly .....bron sweating like a pig ...playing full out .....if he an't on the floor LA is not winning alot
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 11:26:44 PM
Stauskas on fire
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:32:33 PM
Stauskas is on fire!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:32:35 PM
bron a cheating whiner
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:32:59 PM
Stauskas on fire

Yes he is!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:34:09 PM
mcgee taking flopping lessons for daddy bron
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 11:36:09 PM
Stauskas on fire

Yes he is!

hahaha...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:37:08 PM
i luv bigfoot commercials chasing people ....lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 18, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
Le Complainer
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 18, 2018, 11:38:52 PM
Stauskas on fire

Stauskas??
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:40:50 PM
Stauskas on fire

Stauskas??

Yes!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:41:32 PM
LeBron is crying to the refs!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 11:42:09 PM
Stauskas on fire

Stauskas??

Yes!

I know, it is hard to believe but it was true
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
Stauskas on fire

Stauskas??

Yes!

I know, it is hard to believe but it was true

4-5 from 3
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: esel1000 on October 18, 2018, 11:43:58 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 18, 2018, 11:45:38 PM
Stauskas on fire

Stauskas??

Yes!

NIK ROCKS!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 18, 2018, 11:49:12 PM
lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 18, 2018, 11:56:45 PM
lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game

Gang that can't shoot straight.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 19, 2018, 12:10:14 AM
lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game

Lakers playing like this is a finals game ....Walton and Bron really really want this first game...angling for recruiting the next max player .

I happen to rarely agree with Sir Charlie ....i don't think Bron can play this hard 80 plus games,there are no easy games other than Kins in West .  He can't take days off



Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 12:12:29 AM
lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game

Lakers playing like this is a finals game ....Walton and Bron really really want this first game...angling for recruiting the next max player .

I happen to rarely agree with Sir Charlie ....i don't think Bron can play this hard 80 plus games,there are no easy games other than Kins in West .  He can't take days off

I agree. I don't think Rondo can play like this all season either...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 19, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game

Lakers playing like this is a finals game ....Walton and Bron really really want this first game...angling for recruiting the next max player .

I happen to rarely agree with Sir Charlie ....i don't think Bron can play this hard 80 plus games,there are no easy games other than Kins in West .  He can't take days off

I agree. I don't think Rondo can play like this all season either...


that last series bron dragging , standing around watching the other four guys .   He may have  burnt out too early .   But if he comes out Blazer swill surge for sure. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 12:34:17 AM
You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RockinRyA on October 19, 2018, 12:36:36 AM
Lakers vs Blazers... All I care about is how's logo doing.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 19, 2018, 01:00:31 AM
You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
idk but I want to thank josh Jackson for skipping that work out and making Ainge fly across the country for nothing
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 19, 2018, 01:01:51 AM
You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
Ball looks terrible
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 19, 2018, 01:03:06 AM
You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
Ball looks terrible
still better than Fultz lol

But yeah ball and Fultz are many tiers below Tatum.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 01:06:00 AM
LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 19, 2018, 01:07:15 AM
LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers

That didnt take long
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 01:07:30 AM
You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
idk but I want to thank josh Jackson for skipping that work out and making Ainge fly across the country for nothing

Knowing Ainge, he wasn't even on that plane! ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 01:08:05 AM
LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers

That didnt take long

He also looks really tired.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 19, 2018, 01:08:18 AM
LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers

That didnt take long

that was fast...lol 1 game in

I doubt he ever was all in to even give up on them.  he knows this isn't a great roster.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 01:10:52 AM
Chris Webber is such a Lakers fanboy!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 01:12:29 AM
The Lakers don't have anyone who can guard guards.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 19, 2018, 01:43:00 AM
The 76ers forums are celebrating because Fultz made 1 single wide open 3 in garbage time  :D

Fultz finished 5-15 lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CroCorvus on October 19, 2018, 01:43:33 AM
The Lakers are going to be bottom five in defense. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 19, 2018, 01:47:34 AM
LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers

That didnt take long

Better get used to it LeBron. The West does more damage than his past tenures with the East. He ain't seen nothing yet, and it's just the Blazers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 19, 2018, 03:00:16 AM
The 76ers forums are celebrating because Fultz made 1 single wide open 3 in garbage time  :D

Fultz finished 5-15 lol
Imagine having so little to cheer about. What really amazed me is that he was allowed to shoot 15 shots. I get that it was against a lowly Chicago without their best defender, in Dunn, but even so
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 19, 2018, 04:11:04 AM
I didn't like how TNT coverage didn't play any homage to Trail Blazers' passing of Paul Allen during their home intro/tribute....but they all focused on LeBron James and his Laker debut.

Makes me continue to hate LeBron and Lakers even more. I'm glad the Blazers beat them tonight, in tribute to Paul Allen.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 19, 2018, 04:11:04 AM
Double-post. Delete
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on October 19, 2018, 04:18:00 AM
Fultz hit his 1st career 3.
Standing ovation followed.
It looks like no confetti was thrown.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on October 19, 2018, 05:40:36 AM
Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.

I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.

I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.

Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on October 19, 2018, 05:41:04 AM
Šarić isn't a great outside shooter, although he is improving it for the last 5 years.
Last year he made solid improvement in both efficiency and volume from downtown.
He started the season 2/10.
It is still early, but with Fultz in the lineup opened shots for him will be rarer or of a lesser quality.
Shame for my boy.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 19, 2018, 06:17:55 AM
LeBron lost in his first game as a Laker.

http://tv5.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401070218
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 19, 2018, 07:14:09 AM
I fell asleep , and missed the last quarter , but the Lakers Blazers was a pretty intense game.  I was just dead tired wee hours of the morning to stay awake.   

Bron seemed to consider this an extremely important game .  He was focused as hard as I. e ever seen him for regular season game.  He was trying to play team ball....i know it was killing him.
Lakers ...Bron and Rondo were playing an insane fast pace ...one like they were 20 year olds .   It was fun to watch .

Bron and Rondo were playing FULL 100 % , although Bron seemed to drag as i fell asleep.

i just can't see those two playing that hard 80 games .   There will be few nights off in the west , Rondo will need to play like he is 21 years old every minute to compete out west .

Lonzo looked lost ,  this is bad , kid needs to,be on the court ...if he is future .   Point two.....Lakers are just a better version of Cavs when Bron is off the court .   So if Bron has any injury , Lakers are not beating many teams.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RockinRyA on October 19, 2018, 07:18:23 AM
Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.

I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.

I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.

Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.

Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton? Ronny Turiaf?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: moiso on October 19, 2018, 07:23:59 AM
Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.

I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.

I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.

Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.

Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton? Ronny Turiaf?
Jeremy Lin? ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on October 19, 2018, 07:31:10 AM
Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.

I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.

I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.

Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.

Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton? Ronny Turiaf?
Jeremy Lin? ;)
TP. Good calls.
I was thinking more about the Melos, AI's and DeAngelos Russels of the world.
Those high usage gunners.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mr. dee on October 19, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.

I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.

I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.

Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
Ty Lue

(https://b.fssta.com/uploads/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/NBA/images/2016/06/6/060616-Allen-Iverson-Tyonn-Lue.vresize.1200.630.high.0.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 19, 2018, 09:07:28 AM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 12:46:55 PM
Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 12:50:07 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on October 19, 2018, 12:54:52 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.

I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.

I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.

I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.

I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.

They are giving Kelly 12.5 million this year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 19, 2018, 01:13:15 PM
Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 19, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.

Yeah I wish Kelly well when he's not playing us - that Game 7 should have earned him every Cs fan's goodwill - and I think it's hilarious that he took out the Wizards yet again. But I'm also glad we're not paying him Marcus Smart money to be a competent big man who sometimes comes up in big moments.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on October 19, 2018, 02:59:52 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.

I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.

I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.

Olynyk would be a great fit on that Wizards team. I think he'd do a better job for them than Dwight Howard will. Olynyk's high post play (passing and shooting) would really open up the floor for Wall and Beal. Help make the most of their talented guards.

Washington should try and get Olynyk.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 19, 2018, 03:12:43 PM
Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.

5 point 1-3, KCP?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on October 19, 2018, 03:23:51 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.

I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.

I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.

Olynyk would be a great fit on that Wizards team. I think he'd do a better job for them than Dwight Howard will. Olynyk's high post play (passing and shooting) would really open up the floor for Wall and Beal. Help make the most of their talented guards.

Washington should try and get Olynyk.

if Doc was their coach/gm they would lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: The Oracle on October 19, 2018, 03:56:54 PM
If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY

Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer  :D

It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.

I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.

I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.

Olynyk would be a great fit on that Wizards team. I think he'd do a better job for them than Dwight Howard will. Olynyk's high post play (passing and shooting) would really open up the floor for Wall and Beal. Help make the most of their talented guards.

Washington should try and get Olynyk.
Olynyk VS Wizards during his 6 years so far.

1.  Olynyk in his minutes against the Wizards is 21W-4L-2T in 27 career games including
     playoffs.

2.  He has the highest +/- in the league VS Wizards at +198.  Curry is 2nd at +125.  Crowder
     3rd at +98 (Crowder is +99 when playing with Olynyk, -1 when not on the floor with K.O.).

The Wiz should definitely try to trade for K.O. just to end the pain he inflicts upon them.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on October 19, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
LeBron lost in his first game as a Laker.

http://tv5.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401070218

Interestingly enough, LeBron lost his NBA-debut to Sacramento, his first time showcasing his talents for South Beach in Boston, his return to Cleveland against New York, and now his Showtime opening act to Portland.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 19, 2018, 06:09:33 PM
Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.

5 point 1-3, KCP?
ah yes because 1 game determines things like who is better.  If that is the case we might as well cut Irving right now after his 2 of 14 performance.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on October 19, 2018, 06:42:17 PM
Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.

5 point 1-3, KCP?
ah yes because 1 game determines things like who is better.  If that is the case we might as well cut Irving right now after his 2 of 14 performance.

wouldn't it be more prudent to use the stretch provision on him?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on October 19, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.

5 point 1-3, KCP?
ah yes because 1 game determines things like who is better.  If that is the case we might as well cut Irving right now after his 2 of 14 performance.

You're right that we shouldn't make judgments off of 1 game.

But KCP has rather significant body of work that suggests he's not much better than a replacement level player.  Josh Hart has shown more ability and upside in his 1 season than KCP has ever shown.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on October 19, 2018, 11:49:12 PM
Holy crap. The Jazz just put up 81 in the first half against Golden State!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 19, 2018, 11:49:34 PM
Utah can really ball
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 19, 2018, 11:59:12 PM
Holy crap. The Jazz just put up 81 in the first half against Golden State!

Could the Warriors be missing Cousins' presence
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 20, 2018, 12:21:03 AM
Holy crap. The Jazz just put up 81 in the first half against Golden State!

Could the Warriors be missing Cousins' presence

How can you miss something you've never had?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 20, 2018, 12:32:32 AM
This jazz game  is amazing. 2 buzzer beaters, Curry bleeding. Jazz score 103 in 3 quarters.

Exum and ingles aren't too bad. I always thought exum might have been a bust after first few season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 20, 2018, 12:37:14 AM
Ingles had a 92% TS% in the first game of the season. That might be going up lol


Who is this guy?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 20, 2018, 12:41:18 AM
Klay was mad because he was the only one hustling back on defense for the warriors

Wonder if he's leaving at the end of the season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: The Oracle on October 20, 2018, 12:58:07 AM
Jingling Joe is amazing, that ugly stroke is deadly.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 20, 2018, 01:08:14 AM
Former Celtic Jae Crowder seemingly sealed the game with a tip in 2 pointer and then Jonas Jerebko, also former Celtic, tips in a 2 point rebound on the other end to win it as time expires right over crowder. Former Celtics bench players going at it. Pretty rad.

Brutal
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 20, 2018, 01:47:36 AM
Ingles had a 92% TS% in the first game of the season. That might be going up lol


Who is this guy?
The best Aussie in the league ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 20, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 20, 2018, 11:02:09 PM
Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
As much as it pains me, when the Lakers have Rondo and LeBron on together theyíre quite entertaining. Might watch the second half
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 20, 2018, 11:03:45 PM
Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
As much as it pains me, when the Lakers have Rondo and LeBron on together theyíre quite entertaining. Might watch the second half

LeBron is great, I'm just going to enjoy him as much as possible until he retires.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 20, 2018, 11:19:58 PM
Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
As much as it pains me, when the Lakers have Rondo and LeBron on together theyíre quite entertaining. Might watch the second half

yeah I watched their 1st game just for that reason, and the fact that they are playing at a crazy pace.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mr. dee on October 20, 2018, 11:30:47 PM
I knew Rondo and Lebron would have great chemistry. I still remember Rondo's lob to Lebron in the All-Star game back then.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 20, 2018, 11:56:50 PM
Nikola Jokic is the second player in league history with a 30 point triple-double with 100% shooting from the field. The other is Wilt
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 12:25:26 AM
Rondo very active on defense....he is really playing like playoff Rondo perhaps to keep Ball on the bench.

If Rondo continues at this pace he will put additional years on LeBron career.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 12:29:56 AM
this rockets / lakers game has been pretty entertaining
CP3 on fire, and the lakers hodge podge lineup overachieving
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 12:36:45 AM
Lebron should be on that Rockets team with his friends CP3 and Melo, not playing against them with guys like Rondo and McGee.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 12:39:15 AM
Houston is not LA.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:41:57 AM
Ennis did have his hand on the ball.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:44:11 AM
Rondo very active on defense....he is really playing like playoff Rondo perhaps to keep Ball on the bench.

If Rondo continues at this pace he will put additional years on LeBron career.

He's playing for a contract.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 12:47:01 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:51:19 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.

Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?


Ball is looking a lot better tonight.

I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 12:51:46 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.

Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?


Ball is looking a lot better tonight.

I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.

I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:55:12 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.

Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?


Ball is looking a lot better tonight.

I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.

I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.

Yeah, but later i thought he tried to trade Rondo for Paul...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Say what you will but this Laker team is funny to watch....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 12:57:13 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.

Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?


Ball is looking a lot better tonight.

I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.

I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.

Yeah, but later i thought he tried to trade Rondo for Paul...

yes DA tried to trade Rondo for Paul...and a lot of us were up in arms about it
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 12:58:45 AM
Say what you will but this Laker team is funny to watch....

they are entertaining
Lebron
Rondo
J McGee
Stephenson

crazy line  up
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:59:00 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.

Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?


Ball is looking a lot better tonight.

I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.

I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.

Yeah, but later i thought he tried to trade Rondo for Paul...

yes DA tried to trade Rondo for Paul...and a lot of us were up in arms about it

I think I was. I just loved Rondo.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 12:59:39 AM
WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?

CP3 was claiming Rondo spit on him and then they traded punches I think
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 01:00:38 AM
Rondo went back to the locker room before anyone even kicked them out
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 01:00:50 AM
WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?

CP3 was claiming Rondo spit on him and then they traded punches I think

That was like an 1980s flashback.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 01:01:36 AM
opps correction, CP3 didn't throw a punch he shoved Rondo in the face
if I was Rondo I wouldn't take that crap either.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 01:04:11 AM
Rondo leaves with 13 points / 10 assists / 7 rebounds

CP3 leaves with 28 points / 10 assists / 7 rebounds

they were both having good games
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 01:05:47 AM
They will be talking about this for a week.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 01:08:08 AM
I don't find it fun to watch Harden.  The refs bail him out just as much as Lebron...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 21, 2018, 01:11:08 AM
Ingram - more tattoos than toughness.  Blind shove and blind punches.

I hate Harden and Paul but nothing beats watching the Lakers crumble.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 01:14:39 AM
When I watch all this iso ball I tend to miss Tony Allen. He could really defend one on one.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Chief Macho on October 21, 2018, 01:31:52 AM
****nit Rondo. Got me cheering for the Lakers.. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: colincb on October 21, 2018, 01:32:42 AM
WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?

CP3 was claiming Rondo spit on him and then they traded punches I think

I didn't see any spitting by Rondo and the Refs didn't react as if there was. They're both Richards, so anything's possible, but it looked from what I saw that Paul instigated the physical contact putting his hand on Rondo's face and then Rondo started swinging.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: colincb on October 21, 2018, 01:42:10 AM
And the replay shows the ref in very close proximity to Rondo and Paul, so he saw what happened.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: kraidstar on October 21, 2018, 01:43:37 AM
Pierce taunting the LA crowd with "Let's go Red Sox" chants. God, I love that man.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 21, 2018, 01:57:18 AM
Pierce taunting the LA crowd with "Let's go Red Sox" chants. God, I love that man.

Great to see him out there p---ing off Lakers/Dodgers fans! Though he had it coming from them chanting "wheelchair Paul"  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on October 21, 2018, 10:14:50 AM
This is going to be a good season.
Lots of young talent.
The bad teams from previous years look a lot better.
I donít see to many easy games this year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 10:19:24 AM
CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 10:19:46 AM
Lebron should be on that Rockets team with his friends CP3 and Melo, not playing against them with guys like Rondo and McGee.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
Both quotes above were posted well before the CP3-Rondo fight. Lebron's response to the fight, hugging CP3, confirms the previous quote.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
I'm starting to slowly sip the Luka Doncic koolaid.

Dude is SPECIAL.

Will be interesting to see him develop over the next few years.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 04:58:35 PM
I'm starting to slowly sip the Luka Doncic koolaid.

Dude is SPECIAL.

Will be interesting to see him develop over the next few years.

My gut is fat from the Doncic Koolaid. He's going to be something special.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 05:15:55 PM
Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?

don't know about TANK.....but he has a butt load of money  in the BANK .....for basically for doing nothing
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 05:30:41 PM
Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?

He's had nothing left in the tank for several years now, he's worse off than Noah.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: esel1000 on October 21, 2018, 07:45:12 PM
Trae Young is going off right now vs. the Cavs. Lueís defensive schemes are awful but you have to give credit where itís due. People were way too quick to write him off based on his SL play (which outside of his shooting % wasnít bad).
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 07:49:04 PM
Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?

He's had nothing left in the tank for several years now, he's worse off than Noah.

Ouch.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 07:50:42 PM
Trae Young is going off right now vs. the Cavs. Lueís defensive schemes are awful but you have to give credit where itís due. People were way too quick to write him off based on his SL play (which outside of his shooting % wasnít bad).


Did the Suns give up on Alex Len too quickly?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on October 21, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
No love for Trae Young? Heís got 35 points.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 21, 2018, 08:13:41 PM
No love for Trae Young? Heís got 35 points.

It is impressive, but I prefer an NBA that isnt dominated by frail PGs. So no love for Trae.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on October 21, 2018, 08:19:07 PM
No love for Trae Young? Heís got 35 points.

I'm really happy for him. I don't have any strong feelings about the kid but there were just so many people talking about him as a possible bust, it's nice to see him go out and be strong in his first few games.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 21, 2018, 08:22:24 PM
I look at Trae the same way I look at IT. When heís hot heís really hot. If not heíll give up as much as he scores. Consistency over chucking will do him some good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 11:14:33 PM
Gallinari is such a good player, too bad he can't stay healthy....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 11:16:59 PM
Gallinari is such a good player, too bad he can't stay healthy....

Yeah for a while he looked like he was going to be a star in the NBA.  Good win for the Clippers!
Is it wrong to dislike Houston and GS a lot now?

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 11:17:52 PM
Denver with a nice game against GSW, big win.  So pretty much every team is mortal early in the season.   

http://www.nba.com/games/20181021/GSWDEN#/recap (http://www.nba.com/games/20181021/GSWDEN#/recap)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
Gallinari is such a good player, too bad he can't stay healthy....

Yeah for a while he looked like he was going to be a star in the NBA.  Good win for the Clippers!
Is it wrong to dislike Houston and GS a lot now?

Maybe I said this a little early.  Lead down to 3 with 29.5 seconds.  Cmon Clippers!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 11:36:22 PM
No love for Trae Young? Heís got 35 points.

It is impressive, but I prefer an NBA that isnt dominated by frail PGs. So no love for Trae.

LM butt Off .... TP.    :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Somebody on October 21, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 22, 2018, 12:23:29 AM
I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 22, 2018, 12:53:13 AM
I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week

Luka Doncic is the real deal, and he's been solid on both ends.

Last game: 26 points (8-16 FG, 4-9 3P) with 6 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on October 22, 2018, 01:05:08 AM
I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week

Luka Doncic is the real deal, and he's been solid on both ends.

Last game: 26 points (8-16 FG, 4-9 3P) with 6 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.

Against a terrible T-Wolves team. ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 22, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week

Luka Doncic is the real deal, and he's been solid on both ends.

Last game: 26 points (8-16 FG, 4-9 3P) with 6 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.
Completely agree. I think he can develop into a Harden-like player on the offensive end, but with defensive ability / effort. Maybe not the gaudy numbers, but even so.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on October 22, 2018, 08:04:02 AM
Trae Young's highlights were impressive. More drives than I expected. Some lovely passes off of those drives too. Good balance between scoring and creating for others. There were a lot of outside shots but more balance than I had expected. Good quality outside of the hot outside shooting.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Birdman on October 22, 2018, 08:26:13 AM
Denver team for real folks
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 22, 2018, 08:30:21 AM
Denver team for real folks
Wonder how they'll be without Barton, and with IT returning
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 22, 2018, 11:34:03 AM
Denver team for real folks
Wonder how they'll be without Barton, and with IT returning

Monte Morris has been solid through SL and 2 regular season games, possibly good enough to not rush back IT. Loosely related, IT's return has again been slower than expected and I fear he's on a precipitous decline.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 22, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
The Lakers don't look good!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 01:07:01 AM
This Spurs - LAL game is getting crazy
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on October 23, 2018, 01:16:11 AM
This Spurs - LAL game is getting crazy

possibly an understatement? lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 01:17:56 AM
This Spurs - LAL game is getting crazy

possibly an understatement? lol
Lol at LeBron. Has been a pretty weak FT shooter his whole career, yet he constantly demands it at the end of the game. It's an alpha move, but at some stage someone has to tell him
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: JSD on October 23, 2018, 01:19:42 AM
Mills Kills!!!!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 01:19:56 AM
Lonzo caught ball-watching ;D

Tatum might have had a rough night, but man oh man am I glad we have him and not Lonzo/Fultz
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 01:21:06 AM
Return of LeChoke!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: JSD on October 23, 2018, 01:22:27 AM
Lakers 0-3
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 23, 2018, 01:26:51 AM
LeBron don't have Kyrie to pass it to, so he clanked the shot.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 23, 2018, 01:28:00 AM
Lakers defense is abysmal. Insane 143-142 final score.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 23, 2018, 01:31:02 AM
Can't believe I missed this game

I thought Lakers sealed the win with 11 seconds so I didn't bother watching

Nice to see them 0-3 with lebron playing 100 minutes and missing last shot haha
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on October 23, 2018, 01:42:54 AM
Can't believe I missed this game

I thought Lakers sealed the win with 11 seconds so I didn't bother watching

Nice to see them 0-3 with lebron playing 100 minutes and missing last shot haha

don't forget he missed both throws to try and put them up by 3 with 12 seconds left in OT
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 23, 2018, 01:51:23 AM
So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on October 23, 2018, 01:54:02 AM
A lot of players quit playing D because the refs are Whistle happy for any contact . That's what I read. not sure if true
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bopna on October 23, 2018, 02:09:31 AM
So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol

Noticed it too... Teams are shooting lights out but when they face us they come down to earth... Unfortunately our shooting is as abysmal despite the talent the Cs have.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 23, 2018, 07:54:22 AM
Lakers lost again so there is a silver lining to all this......
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2018, 10:22:40 AM
Lakers lost again so there is a silver lining to all this......

Humm....wonder if Lakers will beat Suns ?  tommorrow

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on October 23, 2018, 10:28:00 AM
So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol

Noticed it too... Teams are shooting lights out but when they face us they come down to earth... Unfortunately our shooting is as abysmal despite the talent the Cs have.
Everyone but us  :-[
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on October 23, 2018, 10:47:34 AM
So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol

Noticed it too... Teams are shooting lights out but when they face us they come down to earth... Unfortunately our shooting is as abysmal despite the talent the Cs have.
Everyone but us  :-[

Feels like teams are bringing their defensive A game against us.. many to see if they can squeeze wins out to have a shot at playoffs (Orl, NY)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 23, 2018, 04:54:05 PM
Kawhi Leonard came back from his season long injury much fast than I expected. I thought he'd look more like Hayward does and be on a minutes restriction. Kawhi has looked like the best player in The East so far.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 04:58:05 PM
Kawhi Leonard came back from his season long injury much fast than I expected. I thought he'd look more like Hayward does and be on a minutes restriction. Kawhi has looked like the best player in The East so far.
I thought he was medically cleared last season, he just didn't "feel right"
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2018, 09:41:13 PM
Embiid just flopped his way to Drummond getting his second technical and thrown out of the game. They should severely fine him for that, as that's a potentially game-defining flop. Should be cutting a $25,000 check to the league.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2018, 09:43:04 PM
Kawhi Leonard came back from his season long injury revenge against Pop much faster than I expected. I thought he'd look more like Hayward does and be on a minutes restriction. Kawhi has looked like the best player in The East so far.

FTFY
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2018, 10:02:48 PM
Oh my Lord, is anyone watching this Philly at Detroit overtime game?? It's one dumb defensive play after another lol Both teams are doing everything they can to give this game away.

First, Reddick fouled Jackson with twenty seconds left in a tie game to stop a fastbreak because he thought they had an extra foul, which put Jackson at the line with the go-ahead points.

Then, Jackson returned the favor by fouling Reddick on a three pointer, which went in and put Philly up one after Reddick made the free throw.

Finally, with five seconds left Griffin took it to the basket, got fouled by Covington, and made the basket, putting them up by one with a second left to win the game.

It was madness and terribly dumb defensive basketball lol I'm heading over to Liberty Ballers for the reactions  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 23, 2018, 10:04:01 PM
Oh my Lord, is anyone watching this Philly at Detroit overtime game?? It's one dumb defensive play after another lol Both teams are doing everything they can to give this game away.

First, Reddick fouled Jackson with twenty seconds left in a tie game to stop a fastbreak because he thought they had an extra foul, which put Jackson at the line with the go-ahead points.

Then, Jackson returned the favor by fouling Reddick on a three pointer, which went in and put Philly up one after Reddick made the free throw.

Finally, with five seconds left Griffin took it to the basket, got fouled by Covington, and made the basket, putting them up by one with a second left to win the game.

It was madness and terribly dumb defensive basketball lol I'm heading over to Liberty Ballers for the reactions  ;D

A beauty of a loss!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 23, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
Rumors of Blake's demise seem to be overstated.  50, 14 and 6 tonight  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 23, 2018, 10:08:57 PM
Rumors of Blake's demise seem to be overstated.  50, 14 and 6 tonight  :o

Blake is a great player when he's healthy.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 23, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 24, 2018, 08:16:44 AM
Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
No, and I don't even think they've played the best overall.  I would give that nod to Denver (though I don't think they are the best team either).  Denver's defense has been awesome on the year and the offense isn't too shabby.  Golden State is still the best team though, but they might not end up with the best record because they don't care about such things as they know they can win any series on anyone's floor. 

Right now, I think Toronto ends up with the most wins in the league by the end of the year.  They look fantastic and better than last year's team that won the east and had the 2nd best record in basketball.  I don't know that that makes them the best team, per se, but if you are what your record is, they would be in the discussion. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 24, 2018, 03:45:27 PM
Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
No, and I don't even think they've played the best overall.  I would give that nod to Denver (though I don't think they are the best team either).  Denver's defense has been awesome on the year and the offense isn't too shabby.  Golden State is still the best team though, but they might not end up with the best record because they don't care about such things as they know they can win any series on anyone's floor. 

Right now, I think Toronto ends up with the most wins in the league by the end of the year.  They look fantastic and better than last year's team that won the east and had the 2nd best record in basketball.  I don't know that that makes them the best team, per se, but if you are what your record is, they would be in the discussion.

I was talking about right now not down the road. I think you have to put The Pelicans in the top three so far.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 24, 2018, 03:53:15 PM
What happened to penalizing flopping?

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on October 24, 2018, 04:02:39 PM
What happened to penalizing flopping?

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers

Yeah, this was bad, and it had a tangible effect on the game by getting Drummond ejected. Shouldíve been a fine.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on October 24, 2018, 04:49:27 PM
What happened to penalizing flopping?

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers

Yeah, this was bad, and it had a tangible effect on the game by getting Drummond ejected. Shouldíve been a fine.

I also found it interesting that Embiid was trash talking Drummond saying he owned real estate in his head after the game even though the 76ers lost (and embid missed a shot at the buzzer that could have won it). I think Embiid definitely has some growing up to do and I am definitely starting to like him less as time goes on.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 24, 2018, 05:19:04 PM
What happened to penalizing flopping?

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers

Yeah, this was bad, and it had a tangible effect on the game by getting Drummond ejected. Shouldíve been a fine.

I also found it interesting that Embiid was trash talking Drummond saying he owned real estate in his head after the game even though the 76ers lost (and embid missed a shot at the buzzer that could have won it). I think Embiid definitely has some growing up to do and I am definitely starting to like him less as time goes on.
Heís a total chump
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on October 24, 2018, 08:29:41 PM
Watching the raptors.... playing efficient simple basketball.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 24, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
Watching the raptors.... playing efficient simple basketball.
They've got a solid team and everyone knows their role. I think that's what we're lacking at the moment. People are still trying to figure out their groove in this team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on October 24, 2018, 08:47:58 PM
VC is in Atalanta ?? I had no idea
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 24, 2018, 08:55:10 PM
i guess LakeShow James will light up the Sunsfor 50+ tonight
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 24, 2018, 10:19:00 PM
The Cavs just stink.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 24, 2018, 11:08:22 PM
Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
No, and I don't even think they've played the best overall.  I would give that nod to Denver (though I don't think they are the best team either).  Denver's defense has been awesome on the year and the offense isn't too shabby.  Golden State is still the best team though, but they might not end up with the best record because they don't care about such things as they know they can win any series on anyone's floor. 

Right now, I think Toronto ends up with the most wins in the league by the end of the year.  They look fantastic and better than last year's team that won the east and had the 2nd best record in basketball.  I don't know that that makes them the best team, per se, but if you are what your record is, they would be in the discussion.

I was talking about right now not down the road. I think you have to put The Pelicans in the top three so far.
sure but their defense hasn't been very good which is a concern. Right now Denver and Toronto are better and Golden State is the best team in the world until someone beats them in the playoffs.  Utah might be the best 2 loss team right now (though I'd expect Boston to be better then then by the end if the year)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 24, 2018, 11:57:10 PM
Giannis is absolutely blasting Philly. Happy to see them get dominated two games in a row - firstly by Blake, now by Giannis.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on October 25, 2018, 12:07:43 AM
Coach Bud has unleashed a nightmare.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 25, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on October 25, 2018, 04:24:14 AM
Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
They sure are.
Everyone beats them  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on October 25, 2018, 04:54:32 AM
Philly doesn't look very good right now. Under .500 with a dramatic win over magic. We are nkt only team struggling
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 25, 2018, 05:01:45 AM
Philly doesn't look very good right now. Under .500 with a dramatic win over magic. We are nkt only team struggling
Lots of teams have looked vulnerable. Golden State lost to Denver & won a game off a Jerebko tip-in, OKC are winless, Houston have looked quite poor, the Lakers look poor, and we haven't gelled yet. Going to be interesting seeing how it plays out
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 25, 2018, 05:45:16 AM
The Cavs just stink.

Lue is a great coach like Doc Rivers .   ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 25, 2018, 06:22:10 AM
The Cavs just stink.

Lue is a great coach like Doc Rivers .   ::)
Doc is a much better coach than Lue and this is a guy that hated Doc when he was in Boston and was happy to see him go
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Birdman on October 25, 2018, 07:02:33 AM
how did Dallas blow a 20 point lead against Atlanta?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on October 25, 2018, 08:42:20 AM
how did Dallas blow a 20 point lead against Atlanta?
Dallas isn't any good, especially without Dirk.  I mean have you looked at their big man rotation outside of Jordan. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on October 25, 2018, 09:30:14 AM
how did Dallas blow a 20 point lead against Atlanta?
Dallas isn't any good, especially without Dirk.  I mean have you looked at their big man rotation outside of Jordan.
They are missing their leading scorer Harrison Barnes.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mef730 on October 25, 2018, 09:32:53 AM
Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
They sure are.
Everyone beats them  ;D

You win points for amusing. :)

Mike
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on October 25, 2018, 09:33:44 AM
Steph Curry's defense last night was terrible, just saying.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 25, 2018, 09:51:57 AM
Philly doesn't look very good right now. Under .500 with a dramatic win over magic. We are nkt only team struggling

Early season results are always weird. Anybody remember how Orlando was one of the top teams in the East about 10 games into last season?

My "Milwaukee's better than Philly" take is looking pretty solid so far though.


Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
They sure are.
Everyone beats them  ;D

Lol, TP.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 25, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
Where's Kevin Love? Is he hurt?

Oh, out with sore foot.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 25, 2018, 08:10:14 PM
Where's Kevin Love? Is he hurt?

Oh, out with sore foot.
Man he can never stay healthy
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on October 25, 2018, 10:47:05 PM
When is the Cleveland fire sale going to start?
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Post by: apc on October 25, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
Haha lebron and earlier Westbrook think they are curry with those extra long 3s.
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Post by: Ogaju on October 25, 2018, 10:57:53 PM
Laker games should be fun this year if they rack up the losses.
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Post by: Ogaju on October 25, 2018, 11:09:22 PM
Anyone notice LeBron is rocking the short shorts this season.
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Post by: liam on October 25, 2018, 11:10:32 PM
Anyone notice LeBron is rocking the short shorts this season.

Yeah, you can see his spanks sticking out the bottoms... ;D
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Post by: Ogaju on October 25, 2018, 11:10:56 PM
we should have given Javelle McGee that contract he wanted....
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Post by: Ogaju on October 25, 2018, 11:12:38 PM
Anyone notice LeBron is rocking the short shorts this season.

Yeah, you can see his spanks sticking out the bottoms... ;D

look likes a general trend towards shorter shorts.
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Post by: Ogaju on October 25, 2018, 11:17:03 PM
Lakers do not play any D.
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Post by: gouki88 on October 25, 2018, 11:29:43 PM
Lakers do not play an D.
I think one of the commentators said theyíre 30th on defence and 2nd offensively. The reverse of what weíve been this season
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Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 26, 2018, 12:52:31 AM
Lillard with 41 points tonight, with 34 in the 2nd half. 
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Post by: gouki88 on October 26, 2018, 12:54:37 AM
Lillard with 41 points tonight, with 34 in the 2nd half.
I'm a big fan of Dame, but not a big fan of pairing him with McCollum. McCollum seems to me to just be a 90% version of Lillard
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Post by: gouki88 on October 26, 2018, 12:59:43 AM
Denver choke job
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Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 26, 2018, 01:09:30 AM
Denver choke job

Yup. Credit to make em dance Lance.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Green-18 on October 26, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
I have a general question for everyone regarding the ridiculous pace of play throughout the league.   We can point to the freedom of movement rule or 14 second shot clock after offensive rebounds, but the real cause of high scoring is the absurd pace.  To put things in perspective, the Pelicans led the NBA in pace last season, yet their pace from 2017 would only rank 20th so far this season.

Doesn't this trend only help the Celtics in the long run, especially in the Eastern Conference?  Coach Stevens isn't going to sacrifice defensive principles and smart basketball for the sake of getting up more shots.  We all know the pressure of the postseason leads to a more physical and slower paced brand of basketball.  It's also no surprise that the Raptors are undefeated, yet one of the "slowest" paced teams in the league. 

Personally I would love to see the Celtics play faster once they develop chemistry between the starting 5.  However, there always needs to be some sort of balance.  Most of these others teams are going to be lost when the shots aren't falling.   
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Post by: CelticSooner on October 26, 2018, 08:45:48 AM
I have a general question for everyone regarding the ridiculous pace of play throughout the league.   We can point to the freedom of movement rule or 14 second shot clock after offensive rebounds, but the real cause of high scoring is the absurd pace.  To put things in perspective, the Pelicans led the NBA in pace last season, yet their pace from 2017 would only rank 20th so far this season.

Doesn't this trend only help the Celtics in the long run, especially in the Eastern Conference?  Coach Stevens isn't going to sacrifice defensive principles and smart basketball for the sake of getting up more shots.  We all know the pressure of the postseason leads to a more physical and slower paced brand of basketball.  It's also no surprise that the Raptors are undefeated, yet one of the "slowest" paced teams in the league. 

Personally I would love to see the Celtics play faster once they develop chemistry between the starting 5.  However, there always needs to be some sort of balance.  Most of these others teams are going to be lost when the shots aren't falling.

Iíve been thinking about this as well. All these teams that want to run and gun will look different towards the end of season. Playoff basketball is a different animal. The Cís defensive mindset wonít change and winning games in the 90s wonít be a problem.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bdm860 on October 27, 2018, 12:33:03 AM
Marcus Morris winning us games while Markieff Morris is hurting us by blowing a game against the Kings with a travel.


Wizards were down 2 with under 10 seconds left when Morris traveled.  Kings shoot free throws to go up 4, Wall hits a 3 so Wiz only down 1, Kings miss and make some more free throws, so up 2.

Wizards with the ball down 2 with 2.4 seconds left.  Wizards could still win (but have to inbound and go the length of the court), but our good friend Jeff Green says not on my watch, and throws the ball out of bounds, Kings win  :-\
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Post by: gouki88 on October 27, 2018, 01:02:35 AM
Marcus Morris winning us games while Markieff Morris is hurting us by blowing a game against the Kings with a travel.


Wizards were down 2 with under 10 seconds left when Morris traveled.  Kings shoot free throws to go up 4, Wall hits a 3 so Wiz only down 1, Kings miss and make some more free throws, so up 2.

Wizards with the ball down 2 with 2.4 seconds left.  Wizards could still win (but have to inbound and go the length of the court), but our good friend Jeff Green says not on my watch, and throws the ball out of bounds, Kings win  :-\
Jeff Green continues to just be a dang thorn in our side. Decides to mysteriously show up in the playoffs for the Cavs, and now this.

Hurry up and retire Jeff
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: moiso on October 27, 2018, 06:36:52 AM
Marcus Morris winning us games while Markieff Morris is hurting us by blowing a game against the Kings with a travel.


Wizards were down 2 with under 10 seconds left when Morris traveled.  Kings shoot free throws to go up 4, Wall hits a 3 so Wiz only down 1, Kings miss and make some more free throws, so up 2.

Wizards with the ball down 2 with 2.4 seconds left.  Wizards could still win (but have to inbound and go the length of the court), but our good friend Jeff Green says not on my watch, and throws the ball out of bounds, Kings win  :-\
Jeff Green continues to just be a dang thorn in our side. Decides to mysteriously show up in the playoffs for the Cavs, and now this.

Hurry up and retire Jeff
The human thorn.  Uncle Sleepy wakes up just to be a prick to Celtics fans.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on October 27, 2018, 09:26:25 AM
Looks like Brook Lopez has really opened up the court for Giannis to attack.

C - Brook Lopez
F - Giannis
F - Middleton
G - Brogdon
G - Bledsoe

I didn't think Lopez would help any because he is so poor defensively and a weak rebounder too but offensively that unit is so tough to guard. So tough to send help defenders over to Giannis. The balance offensively of that team is impressive. 

I love Brogdon. I think he is a top 10 SG. So well rounded.
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Post by: Big333223 on October 27, 2018, 02:03:53 PM
Looks like Brook Lopez has really opened up the court for Giannis to attack.

C - Brook Lopez
F - Giannis
F - Middleton
G - Brogdon
G - Bledsoe

I didn't think Lopez would help any because he is so poor defensively and a weak rebounder too but offensively that unit is so tough to guard. So tough to send help defenders over to Giannis. The balance offensively of that team is impressive. 

I love Brogdon. I think he is a top 10 SG. So well rounded.

I don't care for Brook Lopez but that is a nice starting unit. I think they'll wind up the third seed this year.
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Post by: apc on October 27, 2018, 10:57:58 PM
Looks like rondo is coming off the bench.
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Post by: liam on October 27, 2018, 11:09:17 PM
Do you think The Cavs will win one this year?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on October 27, 2018, 11:29:23 PM
Do you think The Cavs will win one this year?
Pre season counts in Cleveland
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 28, 2018, 12:33:11 AM
Lakers lose. Dodgers lose. Boston win.

Its a good day.
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Post by: Green-18 on October 28, 2018, 08:20:27 AM
Looks like Brook Lopez has really opened up the court for Giannis to attack.

C - Brook Lopez
F - Giannis
F - Middleton
G - Brogdon
G - Bledsoe

I didn't think Lopez would help any because he is so poor defensively and a weak rebounder too but offensively that unit is so tough to guard. So tough to send help defenders over to Giannis. The balance offensively of that team is impressive. 

I love Brogdon. I think he is a top 10 SG. So well rounded.

I don't care for Brook Lopez but that is a nice starting unit. I think they'll wind up the third seed this year.

Big game between Bucks and Raptors on Monday.  They are the only undefeated teams left in the league.  Should be a fun game to watch.
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Post by: liam on October 28, 2018, 09:30:00 PM
That Dallas team needs some players off the bench. I like that starting 5.
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Post by: hpantazo on October 28, 2018, 09:58:29 PM
That Dallas team needs some players off the bench. I like that starting 5.

Dirk coming back would help.
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Post by: liam on October 28, 2018, 11:47:31 PM
Washington is so bad and has so much money wrapped up in 3 players that they can't really do anything. 70 million this year for Beal, Wall and Porter not to mention 16 million for Mahinmi and 12 million for Austin Rivers and it's only going up. Yuk!
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Post by: apc on October 29, 2018, 12:44:40 PM
I rarely watch non Celtics games but I was gonna watch raps vs Bucks tonight.
BUT both Giannis and Kawhi are out  :-\, so not going to watch.
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Post by: celticsclay on October 29, 2018, 12:56:26 PM
Washington is so bad and has so much money wrapped up in 3 players that they can't really do anything. 70 million this year for Beal, Wall and Porter not to mention 16 million for Mahinmi and 12 million for Austin Rivers and it's only going up. Yuk!

I definitely thought they would be better this year. I wonder if Howard will make a difference at all when he gets his toosh healed up. Without him they have to have the worst center play in the league.
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Post by: Who on October 29, 2018, 02:42:29 PM
Nerlens Noel had a big night - 20pts 15reb 4stl 2ast 1blk

Most of the points came late in garbage time but he was having a very good game before that. The steals were super. Noel's quickness / ability to cover ground defensively in help and recovery is simply astonishing. Beautiful defender to watch. Great to see him so active on the backboards as well.

He really should be a full time starter somewhere. What a talent.
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Post by: matteo on October 29, 2018, 09:10:44 PM
gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36
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Post by: Rondo9 on October 29, 2018, 09:18:58 PM
gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36

There should be an option to surrender if youíre getting beat down so badly.
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Post by: blink on October 29, 2018, 09:47:34 PM
gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36

There should be an option to surrender if youíre getting beat down so badly.

Clay Tompson with 52 at the end of the 3rd...14/24 from 3 through 3 quarters wow,
I repeat Wow.

New NBA Record
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Post by: liam on October 29, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36

There should be an option to surrender if youíre getting beat down so badly.

Called The Bulls option?
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Post by: liam on October 29, 2018, 10:14:02 PM
Butler is busting up the Lakers....
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Post by: liam on October 29, 2018, 10:22:50 PM
LeBron just loosing the ball at the end of game, sad....
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Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 29, 2018, 10:34:34 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand, the lakers lose. Good.  ;D
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Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 29, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand, the lakers lose. Good.  ;D

LOL....

thats not funny to LA fans .....hee hee hee
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Post by: liam on October 29, 2018, 11:01:35 PM
Doncic is something special.
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Post by: gouki88 on October 29, 2018, 11:16:06 PM
Doncic is something special.
Dallas look good with Barnes back. Add Dirk and I like them.

Doncic & DJ are crushing teams inside, outside and everywhere in between
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Post by: JSD on October 29, 2018, 11:36:27 PM
Doncic is something special.

He sure is...
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Post by: SparzWizard on October 29, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...

let that sink in.
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Post by: gouki88 on October 29, 2018, 11:50:17 PM
The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...

let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers
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Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 30, 2018, 12:33:56 AM
Doncic is something special.

Pretty remarkable.  Much better shooter at this stage than I thought - 35% on 7 attempts/game with pretty iffy shot selection.
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Post by: liam on October 30, 2018, 01:04:28 AM
Doncic is something special.

Pretty remarkable.  Much better shooter at this stage than I thought - 35% on 7 attempts/game with pretty iffy shot selection.

He is so much fun to watch with so much size and talent.
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Post by: SparzWizard on October 30, 2018, 01:51:03 AM
The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...

let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers

LeBron James is losing patience. He's about to clean house for the Lakers ahahaha.
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Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on October 30, 2018, 03:30:54 AM
As much as they weren't gonna be contenders, who would have thought that the Cavs would be the last team in the NBA to win a game this season?
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Post by: Androslav on October 30, 2018, 05:53:44 AM
As much as they weren't gonna be contenders, who would have thought that the Cavs would be the last team in the NBA to win a game this season?
I am not that surprised.
Rookie PG.
Their leader left a huge hole.
The defense was horrendous even before, now the offense is too.
Ownership is already tanking.

Somebody has to be the last.
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Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 30, 2018, 06:56:10 AM
As much as they weren't gonna be contenders, who would have thought that the Cavs would be the last team in the NBA to win a game this season?
I am not that surprised.
Rookie PG.
Their leader left a huge hole.
The defense was horrendous even before, now the offense is too.
Ownership is already tanking.

Somebody has to be the last.

that WAS TEAM LABRON ,    i said last year , without Bron they are not making the playoffs ,  he totally carried that team when it counted.  Basically doing same in LA .  Who is LA gonna beat without a Bron triple double every night . Especially out west.   Bron is starting to look middle aged , like an older boxer ,  not slim anymore .
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Post by: Redz on October 30, 2018, 07:22:54 AM
The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...

let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers

LeBron James is losing patience. He's about to clean house for the Lakers ahahaha.

Lue is available
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on October 30, 2018, 07:44:55 AM
The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...

let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers

LeBron James is losing patience. He's about to clean house for the Lakers ahahaha.

Lue is available
That would be too hilarious
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Mike Pemulis on October 30, 2018, 08:32:28 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
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Post by: gouki88 on October 30, 2018, 08:42:12 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I don't think the last 4 would, and by next year I don't think Dallas would either.

I think a lot of his strength comes from having so much attention drawn away from him by KD and Curry
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Post by: apc on October 30, 2018, 08:46:41 AM
This season starts off CRAZY!!!
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Post by: johnnygreen on October 30, 2018, 10:23:15 AM
I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.

Donít get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.
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Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on October 30, 2018, 10:43:30 AM
I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.

Donít get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.

Curry, Durant, and Thompson didn't play past the (I think) 6 minute mark of the 3rd quarter.

However, I do agree with you. If I'm the Bulls, I don't let that happen. I wouldn't try to injure Thompson - that is the definition of bad sportsmanship. However, I would double him off every screen and refuse to let him get the record. If he drove, I'd try really hard to block the shot (not just contest), and if I fouled him, I fouled him.
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Post by: RodyTur10 on October 30, 2018, 10:55:24 AM
The Bucks are looking really strong. Great game from them against the Raptors. Under Budenholzer this is a completely different team. It's well rounded with good shooters, where Ilyasova and Lopez are great additions and undervalued players. It's been real fun to watch their games.

Raptors on the other hand lack scoring options when Leonard is not available. Lowry isn't a go-to scorer anymore. More like a formidable role player like Marcus Smart.
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Post by: johnnygreen on October 30, 2018, 11:10:03 AM
I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.

Donít get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.

Curry, Durant, and Thompson didn't play past the (I think) 6 minute mark of the 3rd quarter.

However, I do agree with you. If I'm the Bulls, I don't let that happen. I wouldn't try to injure Thompson - that is the definition of bad sportsmanship. However, I would double him off every screen and refuse to let him get the record. If he drove, I'd try really hard to block the shot (not just contest), and if I fouled him, I fouled him.

At a minimum, you foul Klay whenever he touches the ball, and prevent him from putting up another shot.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on October 30, 2018, 11:53:41 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?

I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on October 30, 2018, 12:04:31 PM
I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.

Donít get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.


This is professional sports, there's no such thing as 'calling off the dogs'. They're under no obligation to take it easy, it's their opponents job to stop them. Chicago is just a really bad defensive team, probably the worst in the league right now, so I'm not surprised this happened to them.

That said, GSW did eventually take it easy on Chicago, and ended up subbing out most all of their starters mid-way through the 3rd quarter.  Which is a major reason why the Bulls actually outscored the Warriors by 17 points in the 2nd half. 
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Post by: fairweatherfan on October 31, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
With Butler skipping out, Derrick Rose has a CAREER HIGH (you read that right) 44 and counting in a tight one against Utah.  He's had a great resurgence this year.

Plus 2 games in OT and the ESPN game is down to the wire too. Good night of ball so far.

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Post by: LilRip on October 31, 2018, 10:28:47 PM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 31, 2018, 10:34:07 PM
With Butler skipping out, Derrick Rose has a CAREER HIGH (you read that right) 44 and counting in a tight one against Utah.  He's had a great resurgence this year.


50 and a game-sealing block for D Rose. What a story. 

3 4 50 point scorers so far, two of them for the first time. Crazy year and it's still October!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 31, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

I wouldn't want the Lakers making it into the Finals until the Celtics win a couple more banners to build some distance in the banner counts.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on October 31, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
With Butler skipping out, Derrick Rose has a CAREER HIGH (you read that right) 44 and counting in a tight one against Utah.  He's had a great resurgence this year.


50 and a game-sealing block for D Rose. What a story. 

3 4 50 point scorers so far, two of them for the first time. Crazy year and it's still October!

I miss this Derrick Rose.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 31, 2018, 11:27:13 PM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday.  Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: knuckleballer on October 31, 2018, 11:38:20 PM
Wendell Carter Jr. had a big game.  25 points, 8 rebs, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 blocks.  I was really hoping the Celtics could figure out a way to get him.  Horford 2.0
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 01, 2018, 04:27:59 AM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday.  Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.

These may be the most disturbing posts Iíve ever read on this blog.  Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magicís satisfied smile and Jack Nicholsonís cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed.  Iím feeling ill. 

With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17.  And now I have to get up for work.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 01, 2018, 07:15:14 AM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday.  Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.

These may be the most disturbing posts Iíve ever read on this blog.  Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magicís satisfied smile and Jack Nicholsonís cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed.  Iím feeling ill. 

With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17.  And now I have to get up for work.

Holy misperception. I said I'd like to see Klay on another team, nothing of the Lakers or their championships. If anything, his departure for LA would improve our odds of a championship. 

You work too hard, NG.  I've found that daily mediocre performance tempers expectations and reduces my own stress.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 01, 2018, 07:15:26 AM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

you might be on this blog .   i never want the lakers to have anything ......but a bad season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Adelaide Celt on November 01, 2018, 07:16:28 AM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday.  Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.

These may be the most disturbing posts Iíve ever read on this blog.  Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magicís satisfied smile and Jack Nicholsonís cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed.  Iím feeling ill. 

With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17.  And now I have to get up for work.

Very well put sir, couldn't agree more. Some of this pro-Lakers, 'oh they're so fun to watch' talk makes me nauseous.

They're fun to watch when they lose. That's it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: BitterJim on November 01, 2018, 07:17:07 AM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday.  Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.

These may be the most disturbing posts Iíve ever read on this blog.  Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magicís satisfied smile and Jack Nicholsonís cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed.  Iím feeling ill. 

With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17.  And now I have to get up for work.

I think you're fooling yourself if you think adding Klay makes the Lakers a legit contender. It would weaken the Warriors, and give then a harder path to the finals, but the Lakers wouldn't be a real threat for beating the Warriors and Celtics unless they also added another (bigger) name
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on November 01, 2018, 07:44:14 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?

I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.

Whaaaaa?

He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 01, 2018, 08:40:24 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?

I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.

Whaaaaa?

He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Such as? I can quite comfortably think of 10+ teams with better offensive players than Klay
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on November 01, 2018, 09:41:23 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?

I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.

Whaaaaa?

He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Such as? I can quite comfortably think of 10+ teams with better offensive players than Klay

Like such as...

Shout out to Miss South Carolina.

No, maybe I'm exagerrating, but he maybe gets more shots up than Lillard, DeRozan, Blake, Embiid, PG on those teams (if they are smart). Mitchell should take a backseat too. Denver.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Surferdad on November 01, 2018, 09:52:52 AM
Wendell Carter Jr. had a big game.  25 points, 8 rebs, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 blocks.  I was really hoping the Celtics could figure out a way to get him.  Horford 2.0
Gonna be a very interesting ROY race, though I can't imagine Doncic not getting it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 01, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?

I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.

Whaaaaa?

He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Such as? I can quite comfortably think of 10+ teams with better offensive players than Klay

Like such as...

Shout out to Miss South Carolina.

No, maybe I'm exagerrating, but he maybe gets more shots up than Lillard, DeRozan, Blake, Embiid, PG on those teams (if they are smart). Mitchell should take a backseat too. Denver.

You're probably giving him more credit than me, and I've got him as the best offensive (and definitely overall) player on around 15 teams, maybe a few more given his unknown ceiling.  Not many can go off for 50+ points in <30 minutes at anytime. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on November 01, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.

30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on November 01, 2018, 09:44:22 PM
Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.

30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
He's on pace to make 500 3pts this season. That's almost half of Antoine walkers entire career count of made 3s
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on November 02, 2018, 09:33:57 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: BitterJim on November 02, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.

30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
He's on pace to make 500 3pts this season. That's almost half of Antoine walkers entire career count of made 3s

Yeah, but how many 4s has Curry made?

That's what I thought.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 02, 2018, 10:13:15 PM
When will Scott Brooks get fired?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on November 02, 2018, 10:47:19 PM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Silas on November 02, 2018, 11:06:11 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City.  The team is an embarrassment to the City.  They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LilRip on November 02, 2018, 11:22:57 PM
This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?

Iíd love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals

Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday.  Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.

These may be the most disturbing posts Iíve ever read on this blog.  Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magicís satisfied smile and Jack Nicholsonís cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed.  Iím feeling ill. 

With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17.  And now I have to get up for work.

Very well put sir, couldn't agree more. Some of this pro-Lakers, 'oh they're so fun to watch' talk makes me nauseous.

They're fun to watch when they lose. That's it.

I guess Iím coming from a bunch of different places:
1. I think Klay deserves his shot at being featured on offense. Heís 3rd banana right now
2. I really want to beat lebron in the playoffs and when he moved west, it robbed us of that opportunity. I really thought last year was the year we would do it.
3. Game 7 2010 still hurts. I want revenge for that.
4. Of course, toppling GSW and their dynasty would be absolutely delicious. Actually, Iíd take any championship! But stakes feel higher when itís against LA.

I hate it when LA wins but I also love beating LA.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 02, 2018, 11:55:21 PM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.

Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 03, 2018, 12:42:18 AM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

Really, really bad.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on November 03, 2018, 12:45:36 AM
Warriors player named mckinnie is good and his story is insane- unknown player who played for division 2.  Paid $170 to try out for g league. Now he's a key rotation player for warriors
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 03, 2018, 01:39:12 AM
Warriors player named mckinnie is good and his story is insane- unknown player who played for division 2.  Paid $170 to try out for g league. Now he's a key rotation player for warriors

Still relatively young too.  I'd overpay to have him in a 20 team deep fantasy league.

Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.

30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.

Yup, he stopped making sense a while ago.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on November 03, 2018, 08:36:38 AM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.

Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 03, 2018, 09:04:46 AM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.

Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good

The knicks arenít good, but theyíre far from the worst team in the NBA.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 03, 2018, 09:44:27 AM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.

Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good

The knicks arenít good, but theyíre far from the worst team in the NBA.
They have lots of length and athleticism, some good offensive weapons (I'm a huge Hardaway Jr. fan, and don't think his contract was an overpay) and a good coach in Fizdale IMO. Will be interesting to see them with Kristaps
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Redz on November 03, 2018, 10:14:55 AM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.

Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good

The knicks arenít good, but theyíre far from the worst team in the NBA.
They have lots of length and athleticism, some good offensive weapons (I'm a huge Hardaway Jr. fan, and don't think his contract was an overpay) and a good coach in Fizdale IMO. Will be interesting to see them with Kristaps

Hathaway is a solid early candidate for most improved.  I mean he was good last year, but this is a major step up.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 03, 2018, 10:47:45 AM
Dallas getting blown out.  At home.  To the Knicks.  Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.

Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good

The knicks arenít good, but theyíre far from the worst team in the NBA.
They have lots of length and athleticism, some good offensive weapons (I'm a huge Hardaway Jr. fan, and don't think his contract was an overpay) and a good coach in Fizdale IMO. Will be interesting to see them with Kristaps

Hathaway is a solid early candidate for most improved.  I mean he was good last year, but this is a major step up.
Yeah, heís really been good so far this year. Hope he can maintain it, even if itís for the Knicks. Love his attitude as well. Apparently went to Fizdale in the preseason asking how he could become a number 1 option
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on November 03, 2018, 01:27:22 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City.  The team is an embarrassment to the City.  They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!

Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.

Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 03, 2018, 02:07:28 PM
that was pathetic showing on TNT i think , by wizard.  Lakers fans are already calling for Magic to sign Bradley Beal after last nigts awful effort.  Beal would make a huge diff for Lrbron.  Yong legs that can score in bunches and defend.  That game with OKC was one of the worst games I viewed by anybody in a long time
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on November 03, 2018, 02:33:55 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City.  The team is an embarrassment to the City.  They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!

Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.

Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on November 03, 2018, 02:40:34 PM
Geez. Joel Embiid with 32 points in the first half. 8/9 from the floor and 15/17 from the line. He also had 8 rebounds and 2 blocks. Sixers are up by 19 playing against the Pistons. Andre Drummond played 5 minutes and has 3 fouls.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 03, 2018, 03:06:25 PM
Embiid is taking (and eating) Drummond's lunch once again.

It is one thing to talk smack - then ANOTHER to back it up.

Joel Embiid is a GROWN MAN...too bad BOS is standing in his way for the next few years.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on November 03, 2018, 03:50:04 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City.  The team is an embarrassment to the City.  They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!

Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.

Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.

This is one time where I think Dwight won't be at fault. They've had issues for years with that group. It's just coming to a head now. I think they do care - but about the wrong things. Washington didn't offer Oubre an extension, now he's shooting the ball every time he touches it no matter who else is open. There's whispers that Wall and Beal aren't happy with Porter and they've barely gotten him involved on the offense. They don't talk at all on defense. Its clear they don't like each other. I'm sure that happens in every locker room, but they've let it seep into their on court play.

I think they made a mistake extending Wall. They should've traded him. He's talented, but he seems to at the core of the personnel issues and it's been that way since Beal signed his extension. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he goes into the corner and pouts. I believe it was Bill Simmons who said he has ZERO points scored off of cuts all of last season. For a guy with his speed, athleticism, and finishing ability, it's unacceptable.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on November 03, 2018, 04:14:19 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City.  The team is an embarrassment to the City.  They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!

Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.

Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.

This is one time where I think Dwight won't be at fault. They've had issues for years with that group. It's just coming to a head now. I think they do care - but about the wrong things. Washington didn't offer Oubre an extension, now he's shooting the ball every time he touches it no matter who else is open. There's whispers that Wall and Beal aren't happy with Porter and they've barely gotten him involved on the offense. They don't talk at all on defense. Its clear they don't like each other. I'm sure that happens in every locker room, but they've let it seep into their on court play.

I think they made a mistake extending Wall. They should've traded him. He's talented, but he seems to at the core of the personnel issues and it's been that way since Beal signed his extension. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he goes into the corner and pouts. I believe it was Bill Simmons who said he has ZERO points scored off of cuts all of last season. For a guy with his speed, athleticism, and finishing ability, it's unacceptable.
Yeah, you're right. The bad contracts to Beal, Porter and Wall were bad moves(just don't think any are worth what they signed for). I think Beal and Wall's relationship has been bad for years. I think Wall might be the most selfish player in the league.

And I think Howard was the worst possible addition to the dysfunctionality of the team. He has to be making the situation worse. He might just be the straw that broke the camel's back. This team has horrid chemistry and a ton of selfish players. About the only player I would want on a team I ran is Beal. But not at close to $30 million a year. He ain't worth that.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: kraidstar on November 03, 2018, 04:21:46 PM
Otto Porter's value is dropping by the day. Wonder if a team like Minnesota would even want him in a theoretical Butler trade. Could be an albatross going forward.

What a fiasco.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 03, 2018, 08:23:11 PM
Whiteside is 1 of 2 from 3 tonight, didnít notice he started shooting threes :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 03, 2018, 08:42:46 PM
Embiid clowing Drummond, again LOL

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25168789/joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers-my-way-build-more-real-estate-detroit-pistons-center-andre-drummond-head

I wouldn't feel so bad for Dre if he hadn't joked about Joel's health when this all started. Now, Joel seems committed to embarrassing him.

At this rate, Joel's nickname will be "City."
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on November 03, 2018, 09:09:50 PM
The Wizards are an awful basketball team.

I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City.  The team is an embarrassment to the City.  They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!

Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.

Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.

This is one time where I think Dwight won't be at fault. They've had issues for years with that group. It's just coming to a head now. I think they do care - but about the wrong things. Washington didn't offer Oubre an extension, now he's shooting the ball every time he touches it no matter who else is open. There's whispers that Wall and Beal aren't happy with Porter and they've barely gotten him involved on the offense. They don't talk at all on defense. Its clear they don't like each other. I'm sure that happens in every locker room, but they've let it seep into their on court play.

I think they made a mistake extending Wall. They should've traded him. He's talented, but he seems to at the core of the personnel issues and it's been that way since Beal signed his extension. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he goes into the corner and pouts. I believe it was Bill Simmons who said he has ZERO points scored off of cuts all of last season. For a guy with his speed, athleticism, and finishing ability, it's unacceptable.
Yeah, you're right. The bad contracts to Beal, Porter and Wall were bad moves(just don't think any are worth what they signed for). I think Beal and Wall's relationship has been bad for years. I think Wall might be the most selfish player in the league.

And I think Howard was the worst possible addition to the dysfunctionality of the team. He has to be making the situation worse. He might just be the straw that broke the camel's back. This team has horrid chemistry and a ton of selfish players. About the only player I would want on a team I ran is Beal. But not at close to $30 million a year. He ain't worth that.
Beal and Porter's contracts are fine, they just aren't a good fit with Wall.  If they could somehow move Wall, even at like 50 cents on the dollar, I think it would do wonders for them. 

The question is, who would trade for Wall and what would that trade look like.  I mean would the Clippers trade Gallinari for him.  Gallinari and Beverly for Wall and Oubre.  That seems like a trade both those teams might do.  Wizards would be interesting with Beverly, Beal, Porter, Gallinari, and Dwight, while the Clippers get a legit star in Wall and a nice up and comer in Oubre to pair with Harris, Gortat, Bradley, Williams, Boban, Teo, etc. 

Would a team like the Knicks be interested in getting a legit star to pair with the Zinger.  I mean Lee and Ntilikina works salary wise (and drops like 3 million from the Wiz).  Certainly not good value for the Wizards, but at least get a solid PG prospect and a quality vet for their bench.  Maybe you can get a protected 1st from the Knicks in the trade. 

At the end of the day, they have to do something and trying to find anyone to take Wall makes the most sense. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on November 04, 2018, 08:11:34 AM
7 points and 16 assists - what a strange stat line for a center.

That is the sort of thing you expect from a guy like Rondo. Not a center like Jokic.

What an awesome & unusual player Jokic is.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 04, 2018, 08:18:59 AM
7 points and 16 assists - what a strange stat line for a center.

That is the sort of thing you expect from a guy like Rondo. Not a center like Jokic.

What an awesome & unusual player Jokic is.
He really is such an odd player. Almost the complete opposite of a guy like Gobert
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mr. dee on November 04, 2018, 09:53:56 PM
Raptors dismantling the Lakers so far.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 04, 2018, 09:58:40 PM
Raptors dismantling the Lakers so far.

Understatement  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on November 04, 2018, 10:02:24 PM
LeBron or not, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team and won't make the playoffs
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mr. dee on November 04, 2018, 10:03:13 PM
I guess this is the time we should stop underestimating Ibaka. He's been on a tear since Nick Nurse took over.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on November 04, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 04, 2018, 10:28:37 PM
Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.

Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. Theyíre fine especially compared to the Sixers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 04, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
LeBron or not, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team and won't make the playoffs


I like Tyson Chandler as a player and the Lakers do need help up front but I'm not sure about the fit.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: moiso on November 04, 2018, 10:34:49 PM
Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.

Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. Theyíre fine especially compared to the Sixers.
I never understood all the Philly hype while everyone ignored Milwaukee.  Milwaukee has always been way better.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 04, 2018, 10:35:49 PM
The Raptors are playing scary good tonight!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 04, 2018, 10:37:03 PM
Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.

Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. Theyíre fine especially compared to the Sixers.
I never understood all the Philly hype while everyone ignored Milwaukee.  Milwaukee has always been way better.
The media outlets have a weird love for Philly. So hilarious seeing them consistently fail
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: moiso on November 04, 2018, 10:41:09 PM
Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.

Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. Theyíre fine especially compared to the Sixers.
I never understood all the Philly hype while everyone ignored Milwaukee.  Milwaukee has always been way better.
The media outlets have a weird love for Philly. So hilarious seeing them consistently fail
At least the Celticsblog outlets have faded.  It used to be that 1/3 of Celticsblog were Philly fans.  But now we are... strong.  And there are only one or two Philly fanboys left here.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 04, 2018, 11:22:41 PM
Lakers got it down to 17. Raptors have a high powered offense and the Lakers jet have a low powered  defense.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 04, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on November 04, 2018, 11:56:37 PM
Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?

Pretty much. Agents do it all the time.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: footey on November 05, 2018, 12:02:26 AM
Okay, fine, Iíll give you Rozier for Ibaka.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on November 05, 2018, 09:07:50 AM
Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
Because he would sign 1 year contracts.  He is shooting pretty badly this year, but he is also a pretty good shooter and respectable enough defender.  He is actually a pretty good fit at SG next to James (obviously not super talented or anything, but at least a player whose skill set makes sense).
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: johnnygreen on November 05, 2018, 09:59:24 AM
LeBron or not, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team and won't make the playoffs


I like Tyson Chandler as a player and the Lakers do need help up front but I'm not sure about the fit.

I thought Chandler would have been one of those good veteran pick-ups that the Celtics could have used.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 05, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
Because he would sign 1 year contracts.  He is shooting pretty badly this year, but he is also a pretty good shooter and respectable enough defender.  He is actually a pretty good fit at SG next to James (obviously not super talented or anything, but at least a player whose skill set makes sense).

I guess I have never watched a game where KCP displayed any NBA skill...

He has a very good agent....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on November 06, 2018, 09:39:50 PM
Washington giving up 70 points in a half to Dallas and look completely disinterested. They really need to make a move.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 06, 2018, 10:22:11 PM
Washington giving up 70 points in a half to Dallas and look completely disinterested. They really need to make a move.

Gotta love Doncic!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 07, 2018, 12:26:47 AM
How many days until Scott Brooks is fired...  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 07, 2018, 01:04:09 AM
I heard Nets fans started chanting ďJAYSON TATUMĒ when Fultz missed a free throw. Lol.

Pretty ironic coming from them of all teams, but funny nonetheless.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 07, 2018, 01:38:24 AM
How many days until Scott Brooks is fired...  :P

He still has a job?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on November 07, 2018, 02:49:13 AM
I heard Nets fans started chanting ďJAYSON TATUMĒ when Fultz missed a free throw. Lol.

Pretty ironic coming from them of all teams, but funny nonetheless.

Nets fans hate 76ers fans more than Celtics fans, which I can get along with.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 07, 2018, 03:20:06 AM
I heard Nets fans started chanting ďJAYSON TATUMĒ when Fultz missed a free throw. Lol.

Pretty ironic coming from them of all teams, but funny nonetheless.
I kinda like the Nets now. Big fan of Levert, RHJ and Jarrett Allen.

Heck, even Jarrett Allen would've been a better pick than Fultz. He looks pretty legit
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 07, 2018, 06:32:06 AM
Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?

Minutes the last two games...

26 to 13

28 to 7
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 07, 2018, 06:52:36 AM
Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?

Minutes the last two games...

26 to 13

28 to 7
Ouch. He was looking really good at the end of last season. Wonder what happened.

Bridges is a good player though. Thought Philly were foolish to move him, as I don't rate Smith
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 07, 2018, 06:52:49 AM
Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?

Minutes the last two games...

26 to 13

28 to 7

Jackson has been shockingly bad.  Glad I wasted a high pick in our fantasy league on that horse's patoot. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 07, 2018, 07:27:10 AM
Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?

Minutes the last two games...

26 to 13

28 to 7

Jackson has been shockingly bad.  Glad I wasted a high pick in our fantasy league on that horse's patoot.
Ha, same. Saric and JB are two other guys who have completely flunked
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on November 07, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?

Minutes the last two games...

26 to 13

28 to 7

Jackson has been shockingly bad.  Glad I wasted a high pick in our fantasy league on that horse's patoot.

Phoenix fans already consider him a bust (and they really regret that their franchise didn't draft Fox). Bridges is looking good though. So the answer is a definite yes to your question.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 07, 2018, 09:03:07 PM
Not sure if anyone else is watching this game on espn, but right now saric looks like one of the worst starters in the NBA. He is getting destroyed trying to play defense, getting swatted inside and throwing up bricks. I think he may the next depreciated asset in Philly following on heels of okafor, Noel and fultz. Woof
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 07, 2018, 09:32:34 PM
Hassan Whiteside is obliterating SAS, jeesh. Nearly got a 30/20/10 game (points/rebounds/blocks)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 07, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
I'll give saric credit this quarter. He has rebounded and played better. In other news whiteside will get a triple double with blocks.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 07, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 07, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
I still like their team. Itís not often that LMA will shoot 14%, and losing Murray was something they couldnít have foreseen. Pop is making DeMar look awesome though
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 07, 2018, 10:05:40 PM
Mavericks getting embarrassed. I like some of their pieces. Perhaps Moranis is right in saying Carlisle needs to retire
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 07, 2018, 10:06:32 PM
You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
I still like their team. Itís not often that LMA will shoot 14%, and losing Murray was something they couldnít have foreseen. Pop is making DeMar look awesome though

It does suck about Murray but I think they have quietly been losing key guys like Simmons and Anderson that played really well for pops. They also could obviously use Parker who has been great for the hornets
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on November 08, 2018, 12:46:27 AM
Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 31 pts? This guy is back

He wants another MVP
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 08, 2018, 12:55:20 AM
Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 34 pts? This guy is back

He wants another MVP

too bad he missed that last one  >:(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on November 08, 2018, 12:57:25 AM
Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 34 pts? This guy is back

He wants another MVP

too bad he missed that last one  >:(
lol hero ball. A 2 would have been enough but no surprise considering his % tonight
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on November 08, 2018, 04:37:49 AM
Jimmy and KAT are 3rd and 4th in usage.
DRose and Wiggins are above them, ridiculous.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2019.html
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on November 08, 2018, 04:46:00 AM
Dončić, as I predicted years ago, is clearly the best rookie in this class.
Scores more PPG than he has years. The creation, shooting, size, efficiency, rebounding - everything you want.

It will be interesting to monitor how long will Dennis Smith Jr. last beside him if he doesn't improve his jumper quickly enough. I like the idea of 2 creators on the same team, but he is expendable for a wing upgrade IMO.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 08, 2018, 04:54:26 AM
Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 31 pts? This guy is back

He wants another MVP

His first one wasnít all that deserved (LeBron-bias), he certainly wonít see another.

Maybe he should set his sights on a ring or something.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 08, 2018, 04:57:57 AM
You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
I still like their team. Itís not often that LMA will shoot 14%, and losing Murray was something they couldnít have foreseen. Pop is making DeMar look awesome though

10ppg on 8-28fg his last two games.

I canít imagine how Pop isnít considering bringing him off the bench until he gets right. I think I saw a tweet that they are considering sending him to the G-League.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 08, 2018, 05:01:47 AM
Mavericks getting embarrassed. I like some of their pieces. Perhaps Moranis is right in saying Carlisle needs to retire

DeAndre Jordan was playing Jabari Parker level defense LOL. Check out this thread with clips of his effort during the first six minutes of the game...

https://twitter.com/andyblarsen/status/1060419515262021632

Quote
DeAndre Jordan straight up didn't try tonight, and the Mavericks should be upset with him (making $22.9M this year!). A quick thread of literally just him not caring in the first few minutes of the first quarter coming up (1/IDK, 7 or so)

This is all in the first 6:20 of the game. I don't know what to say. I don't think he raised his hand above his head once. End thread.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on November 08, 2018, 09:16:16 AM
This Lakers team grosses me out!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Birdman on November 08, 2018, 09:18:55 AM
This Lakers team grosses me out!
Me too..all u see or hear is bout Lakers..geez, win some games then talk
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on November 08, 2018, 09:28:20 AM
This Lakers team grosses me out!
Me too..all u see or hear is bout Lakers..geez, win some games then talk
I wish Instagram had a way to block anything Lakers/Ball/Kardashian
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on November 08, 2018, 01:59:07 PM
Can you imagine where this Celtic team would be if the pick Philly owes us had conveyed last year and we picked up Doncic and Williams? I so wanted Doncic on this team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 08, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
Can you imagine where this Celtic team would be if the pick Philly owes us had conveyed last year and we picked up Doncic and Williams? I so wanted Doncic on this team.

didn't they pick 9th or 10th?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 08, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
Can you imagine where this Celtic team would be if the pick Philly owes us had conveyed last year and we picked up Doncic and Williams? I so wanted Doncic on this team.

didn't they pick 9th or 10th?

Yea but more because they played well in second half of the season and didn't tank at all. They were actually 11-27 in january and played above .500 the rest of the season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on November 09, 2018, 12:03:28 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CF033 on November 09, 2018, 12:10:48 AM
Yea wow Milwaukee is destroying GS right now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 09, 2018, 12:36:31 AM
Think this highlights how crucial Draymond is to GSW. He's perhaps their best passer and defender
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 09, 2018, 01:15:53 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.

Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.

I donít see how Kerr doesnít shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.

Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 09, 2018, 01:23:37 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.

Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.

I donít see how Kerr doesnít shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.

Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on November 09, 2018, 01:55:44 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.

Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.

I donít see how Kerr doesnít shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.

Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.

How dare somebody criticize the golden god Coach Stevens?!

I'll tell you what - I'll say ten "Hail Bradleys" before going to bed to make up for it. Will that count as penance for the damage that I have done to your fragile fandom that can't take any criticism of your coach?   ;)  ::)

(Seriously, though, I'm starting to wonder if y'all formed a Brad Stevens cult the way you so blindly defend him in the face of obvious shortcomings.)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on November 09, 2018, 01:59:30 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.

Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.

I donít see how Kerr doesnít shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.

Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!

Bemoaning that the NBA doesn't better utilize the G-League for rehab and suggesting that Gordon could benefit from a short stint up there to better get his rhythm and confidence up is now equivalent to saying Gordon "belongs in the G-League"?

Yikes. That's enough Celticsblog Celticsstrong for one night.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 09, 2018, 02:09:09 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.

Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.

I donít see how Kerr doesnít shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.

Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!

Bemoaning that the NBA doesn't better utilize the G-League for rehab and suggesting that Gordon could benefit from a short stint up there to better get his rhythm and confidence up is now equivalent to saying Gordon "belongs in the G-League"?

Yikes. That's enough Celticsblog Celticsstrong for one night.
It was in jest. Take it easy.

The fact of the matter is the G-League still isnít developed enough to be a legitimate option. Not every NBA team has an affiliate (until next season) and the talent level is too all over the place. Plus, the reinjury risk is too great for the reward of getting it going against considerably lesser talent. Just not worth it as the G-League stands.
If more talent moves into it, and NBA rosters are expanded so that teams can utilise it properly, then it could be. That just isnít the case as of yet.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 09, 2018, 02:19:18 AM
So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.

Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.

I donít see how Kerr doesnít shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.

Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!

Bemoaning that the NBA doesn't better utilize the G-League for rehab and suggesting that Gordon could benefit from a short stint up there to better get his rhythm and confidence up is now equivalent to saying Gordon "belongs in the G-League"?

Yikes. That's enough Celticsblog Celticsstrong for one night.

Itís the same, beyond nonsensical.

Obviously, we all know what type of freak injuries can occur on a basketball court. Would any team want a superstar to get hurt ďrehabbingĒ in a G-League game? For what? You think timing and rhythm are anywhere close to an NBA game? Might as well send him to the local Y for some pickup games.

The ONLY way heís going to get his NBA game back is... in NBA games. Against NBA players.

Thereís a reason no team does it for their stars. The risk of them getting hurt is far greater than any benefit they can get playing against far inferior competition.

I feel like so many on here think championships are won in November. Unless some are worried about TOR winning 75 games, thereís no reason to worry so early. These guys will start hitting their open shots at a significantly higher clip then they have.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on November 09, 2018, 09:01:23 PM
Man I honestly can't believe how bad the wizards are. They have to blow that up now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 09, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
Man I honestly can't believe how bad the wizards are. They have to blow that up now.
It's crazy. I like some of their players too (mainly Beal and Porter Jr.). Jeesh
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 09, 2018, 09:38:03 PM
Embiid with 18 free throws....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on November 09, 2018, 09:54:03 PM
Man I honestly can't believe how bad the wizards are. They have to blow that up now.
Yeah I figured they were a pretty clear top 6 team in the East, but they have been awful.  It is still early so they could get it figured out, but they've also had dysfunction for years so maybe it has finally caught up to them.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 10, 2018, 03:40:02 AM
Embiid with 18 free throws....
Finished up with 22 and had 23 against the Pistons.  Really nice when your C is drawing 10+ FTs per game and shooting them at 80%+.   
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 10, 2018, 10:16:30 PM
Sixers lost to Memphis
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 10, 2018, 11:21:55 PM
i hate having to root for the lakers >:(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GC003332 on November 11, 2018, 02:29:03 AM
Lebron James just moved into 4th place on the All Time Turnovers list in NBA History passing Jason Kidd with his 4004th turnover tonight.

Next up is Kobe Bryant with 4010 in 3rd at 2.98 per game

Karl Malone leads with 4524 at 3.07 per game
John Stockton is 2nd with 4248 at 2.82 per game

James leads all players with more than 4000 turnovers at 3.47 per game.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 11, 2018, 02:39:07 AM
Lebron James just moved into 4th place on the All Time Turnovers list in NBA History passing Jason Kidd with his 4004th turnover tonight.

Next up is Kobe Bryant with 4010 in 3rd at 2.98 per game

Karl Malone leads with 4524 at 3.07 per game
John Stockton is 2nd with 4248 at 2.82 per game

James leads all players with more than 4000 turnovers at 3.47 per game.
Far out, it really is insane that Stockton nearly has a 4:1 career assist to turnover ratio, and is in the top top two for both.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 11, 2018, 11:42:45 PM
atlanta up 3 on lakers 4 min to go
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 11, 2018, 11:56:39 PM
down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound.  lakers up 1

15 seconds to go
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: kraidstar on November 11, 2018, 11:59:44 PM
down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound.  lakers up 1

15 seconds to go

Wow the Hawks are pathetic. Lakers too. How have they won 7 games, they are just awful at both ends. LeBron looks noticeably slower too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GC003332 on November 12, 2018, 03:50:02 AM
down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound.  lakers up 1

15 seconds to go
Lebron ranks as only the 18th best free throw shooter percentage wise at the Small Forward position this season , 100th overall.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/position/small-forwards

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/count/81
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 12, 2018, 08:08:25 AM
i hate having to root for the lakers >:(

it s an unnatural act for a Boston fans .

like stepping in front of a bus.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on November 12, 2018, 09:09:24 AM
down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound.  lakers up 1

15 seconds to go

Wow the Hawks are pathetic. Lakers too. How have they won 7 games, they are just awful at both ends. LeBron looks noticeably slower too.
Celtics too...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on November 14, 2018, 10:06:27 PM
Toronto coming back down to Earth with two straight losses at home to Milwaukee and Detroit, with Detroitís win tonight at the buzzer after a Kawhi turnover. Will be a good game on Friday to knock them down a few pegs!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 14, 2018, 10:12:59 PM
TOR - while a very good team - has never scared me.

We eventually get Hayward back this season and we'll be fine.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on November 14, 2018, 10:18:53 PM
Sixers lose to the Magic in Butler's debut game. Butler 14 points, 4 rebounds 2 assists, while posting a plus/minus rating of minus 10.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on November 14, 2018, 10:24:23 PM
Bucks about to lose at home to the Grizzlies.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 14, 2018, 11:09:13 PM
Bucks about to lose at home to the Grizzlies.
Every single team looks vulnerable
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on November 14, 2018, 11:11:40 PM
Jazz getting their ass handed to them by the Mavericks tonight too. Dallas beat them by 50 points!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 14, 2018, 11:28:27 PM
Jazz getting their ass handed to them by the Mavericks tonight too. Dallas beat them by 50 points!
9 point fourth quarter. Brutal
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 14, 2018, 11:34:07 PM
hack a Bron should be a thing...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on November 15, 2018, 01:05:16 AM
LeBron James showing no signs of slowing down as he recorded 44 points and 10 rebounds tonight...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 15, 2018, 01:33:41 AM
Quote
Luke Walton says that Rajon Rondo fractured his hand and will be out for at least a couple weeks.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1062952437391093760?s=21
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 15, 2018, 01:49:39 AM
Quote
Luke Walton says that Rajon Rondo fractured his hand and will be out for at least a couple weeks.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1062952437391093760?s=21
[dang]. Hate the Lakers, but I'll always like Rondo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ACF on November 15, 2018, 01:53:03 AM
LeBron James showing no signs of slowing down as he recorded 44 points and 10 rebounds tonight...

He passed Wilt for 5th most points all-time.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GC003332 on November 15, 2018, 02:30:19 AM
Lebron James just moved into 3rd place on the All Time Turnovers list in NBA History passing Kobe Bryant with his 4011th turnover tonight.

Karl Malone leads with 4524 at 3.07 per game
John Stockton is 2nd with 4248 at 2.82 per game

James leads all players with more than 4000 turnovers at 3.47 per game
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 15, 2018, 03:49:39 AM
That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 15, 2018, 04:07:15 AM
That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.
Anything that makes Embiid look like a chump makes me smile
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Birdman on November 15, 2018, 04:22:52 AM
Seems like the Lakers have been on the West Coast sincevseason started..easy schedule so far
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 15, 2018, 04:40:16 AM
Back-to-back 30 point games for EíTwaun Moore
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on November 15, 2018, 07:12:39 AM
Dallas 118 - 68 Utah

Wow, that is a crazy scoreline.

A 50 point shellacking by Dallas.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on November 15, 2018, 08:53:15 AM
Quote
Luke Walton says that Rajon Rondo fractured his hand and will be out for at least a couple weeks.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1062952437391093760?s=21
[dang]. Hate the Lakers, but I'll always like Rondo
Unfortunately look they are starting to click. better and faster then i expected.
I guess it is all about Lebron but he is getting decent help.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 15, 2018, 10:06:25 AM
Dallas 118 - 68 Utah

Wow, that is a crazy scoreline.

A 50 point shellacking by Dallas.

And it was competitive in the first half! Utah got thumped 60-22 in the second half. Makes our offense look good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on November 15, 2018, 11:33:23 AM
Dallas 118 - 68 Utah

Wow, that is a crazy scoreline.

A 50 point shellacking by Dallas.

And it was competitive in the first half! Utah got thumped 60-22 in the second half. Makes our offense look good.

9 points in the 4th quarter for Utah. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Monkhouse on November 15, 2018, 11:44:36 AM
Always have said that the Jazz is a top 5 defensive oriented team, and they improved their offense with a shared team's mentality to score by committee, but man oh man... If Ingles, Mitchell, or Rubio isn't dishing the rock or scoring, there isn't many players on that team that can take over. I think that is why they are still so high on Exum still. He has shown flashes, but his health concerns are far too hard to ignore. Burks was also supposed to help alleviate those question marks, but he seems like he has issues too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on November 15, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.

We already forgetting about Jaylen Brown posterizing Embiid  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: kraidstar on November 15, 2018, 01:48:31 PM
In other news, the Juggernaut Nuggets and Superstar Jamal Murray have lost 4 in a row.

All this after Scalabrine was falling all over himself saying after they beat us they were the second-best team in the West.

Now the Nuggets are getting exposed a bit. We went 1-4 on that road trip due to horrible play, not because of the greatness of our opponents.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 15, 2018, 08:36:17 PM
Monte Morris is starting, Jamal Murray coming off the bench tonight

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsFmXbwVAAA_Q5z?format=jpg&name=large)

https://twitter.com/msinger/status/1063243551775973378?s=21
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 15, 2018, 09:26:08 PM
Back-to-back 30 point games for EíTwaun Moore

always liked him.


bettervthan Rozier
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: 10610786d on November 15, 2018, 09:57:45 PM
Back-to-back 30 point games for EíTwaun Moore

always liked him.


bettervthan Rozier

People say Ainge can't draft, but we got some gems in E'Twaun and Ojeleye.

E'Twaun was a beast, I think we had a huge comeback against Magic/Knicks
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 15, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.

We already forgetting about Jaylen Brown posterizing Embiid  ;D

Eh, looking at the two plays, itís pretty clear which was more embarrassing for Embiid.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on November 15, 2018, 09:59:15 PM
Back-to-back 30 point games for EíTwaun Moore

always liked him.


bettervthan Rozier

People say Ainge can't draft, but we got some gems in E'Twaun and Ojeleye.

E'Twaun was a beast, I think we had a huge comeback against Magic/Knicks
he should have kept etwaun. I remember everytime we played him in garbage to me he would make 3s like it was no ones business

I feel like jabari bird is similar. Wonder how that situation ends
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on November 15, 2018, 10:13:33 PM
Houston blowing out the Warriors tonight. Maybe the Green-Durant drama really is causing their downfall.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: 10610786d on November 15, 2018, 10:24:18 PM
Back-to-back 30 point games for EíTwaun Moore

always liked him.


bettervthan Rozier

People say Ainge can't draft, but we got some gems in E'Twaun and Ojeleye.

E'Twaun was a beast, I think we had a huge comeback against Magic/Knicks
he should have kept etwaun. I remember everytime we played him in garbage to me he would make 3s like it was no ones business

I feel like jabari bird is similar. Wonder how that situation ends

It's sad, but given how cap space works, you gotta sacrifice an E'Twaun Moore to have space for Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward.

Moore and Smart would be a helluva pair. Very gritty.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 16, 2018, 09:57:18 PM
Memphis over Sac by 14 in 4th.   win-lose.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Kiorrik on November 16, 2018, 09:57:47 PM
After watching Kyrie tonight, I do recommend switching on to Timberwolves Trail Blazers.

Rose is fun to watch. He definitely reminds me of Kyrie.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 16, 2018, 10:01:38 PM
Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on November 16, 2018, 10:21:54 PM
Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19

I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.

And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on November 16, 2018, 10:38:46 PM
Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19

I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.

And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.

they have cooled off a bit, but they are still a legit contender.  The top of the EC is going to be tough, Toronto Boston Mil Philly Indy
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on November 16, 2018, 10:55:04 PM
Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19

I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.

And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.

they have cooled off a bit, but they are still a legit contender.  The top of the EC is going to be tough, Toronto Boston Mil Philly Indy

Yeah not denying MIL is still a big threat. But itís also not like Toronto and MIL are running away with the 1-2 seeds in the East now either.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: blink on November 16, 2018, 11:00:22 PM
Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19

I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.

And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.

they have cooled off a bit, but they are still a legit contender.  The top of the EC is going to be tough, Toronto Boston Mil Philly Indy

Yeah not denying MIL is still a big threat. But itís also not like Toronto and MIL are running away with the 1-2 seeds in the East now either.

I agree, it is probably going to be tight at the top all year.  I could honestly see any of us, Toronto, Milwaukee as the top seed once playoffs hit.  Lets hope we can get on a roll and be the one.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 17, 2018, 02:48:35 AM
Was wondering why Giannis hitting two treys tonight caused such celebration.... until I looked up that he was shooting 7% (SEVEN!) going into this game. With his brilliant shooting display tonight, heís now up to 12.5%.

I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 17, 2018, 02:57:30 AM
Was wondering why Giannis hitting two treys tonight caused such celebration.... until I looked up that he was shooting 7% (SEVEN!) going into this game. With his brilliant shooting display tonight, heís now up to 12.5%.

I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
Not only is he a freakish blend of athleticism, length, finishing and ball-handling, but he gets away with some egregious travels. Makes him nigh on unstoppable sadly
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ederson on November 17, 2018, 04:26:36 AM

I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.

It s not like we just learned about his inability from long range . Yet he remains unstoppable. It is obvious that teams cannot surely force him to be a shooter.

Unless nba coaches plus an army of assistants haven't thought about it yet
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: 10610786d on November 17, 2018, 05:23:45 AM
Was wondering why Giannis hitting two treys tonight caused such celebration.... until I looked up that he was shooting 7% (SEVEN!) going into this game. With his brilliant shooting display tonight, heís now up to 12.5%.

I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
Not only is he a freakish blend of athleticism, length, finishing and ball-handling, but he gets away with some egregious travels. Makes him nigh on unstoppable sadly

Can't be stopped by anyone...except the brick wall known as Semi.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on November 17, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
Jimmy Butler had a sound debut last night against the Jazz...28 points and 7 assists.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on November 17, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
Jimmy Butler had a sound debut last night against the Jazz...28 points and 7 assists.

That was not his debut, that was his second game as a Sixer.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Kiorrik on November 17, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
Toronto up a casual 40 points on Chicago. 105-65.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Kiorrik on November 17, 2018, 10:05:24 PM
Toronto up a casual 40 points on Chicago. 105-65.
Which, btw, is mostly to be expected since the teams are 12-4 and 4-12.

Still, 40 points. Wowzahs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on November 17, 2018, 10:18:53 PM
Toronto up a casual 40 points on Chicago. 105-65.
we were up 30 pts on them at some points

  Chicago is likely the worst team in the nba
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on November 17, 2018, 10:23:27 PM
Jimmy Buckets with a game-winning block and game-winning shot. What a killer.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 17, 2018, 10:34:38 PM
I wonder if Kemba realises is talent is completely wasted
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 17, 2018, 10:51:09 PM
Warriors vs Cavs is a really good one.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 17, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on November 17, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
Mavs giving Warriors the business, but GSW still has a chance. Nice exciting game.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 17, 2018, 10:57:12 PM
Mavs giving Warriors the business, but GSW still has a chance. Nice exciting game.

Really good game. The Mavs have struck gold.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mctyson on November 17, 2018, 10:58:22 PM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 17, 2018, 10:59:06 PM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas

That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on November 17, 2018, 11:01:44 PM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas

That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!

did ATL trade him to Dallas?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 17, 2018, 11:04:39 PM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas

That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!

did ATL trade him to Dallas?

Yes, and they got a pick...

But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...

...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on November 17, 2018, 11:12:36 PM
lol ATL
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 18, 2018, 12:03:33 AM
Kemba with 60.  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 18, 2018, 12:08:54 AM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas

That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!

did ATL trade him to Dallas?

Yes, and they got a pick...

But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...

...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
The #3 pick has a good history. Our two, Embiid, Beal, Harden, Horford, MJ, Nique, McHale, Maravich, Nate Thurmond, Loscy, and even Cousy. Boston has benefited from the 3rd pick a lot, sad we couldn't get Doncic though. He has future MVP written all over him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on November 18, 2018, 12:18:17 AM
Man...I saw about 5 Real Madrid games and at 18 Doncic was easily the best player on the court in all 5 games. It wasn't close. He was magical in a Larry Bird type way. I was hoping and praying that Lakers pick would convey last year and net us Doncic. I could easily see Rozier being moved and Doncic taking Rozier's minutes. How good would this team be going forward with a core of Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, and Smart with Tatum, Brown and Doncic on rookie contracts. Wow.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 19, 2018, 12:00:12 AM
Still like Trae Young.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 19, 2018, 12:59:20 AM
Still like Trae Young.
I really don't at all. He's been particularly terrible over his last 3. So inefficient, yuck
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bopna on November 19, 2018, 02:39:04 AM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas

That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!

did ATL trade him to Dallas?

Yes, and they got a pick...

But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...

...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
The #3 pick has a good history. Our two, Embiid, Beal, Harden, Horford, MJ, Nique, McHale, Maravich, Nate Thurmond, Loscy, and even Cousy. Boston has benefited from the 3rd pick a lot, sad we couldn't get Doncic though. He has future MVP written all over him.

I'd trade JB and Rozier for Doncic, send the sac pick to boot but im sure the Mavs will laugh at that proposal...
specially that JB has his head up in his bum right now with his play.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 19, 2018, 02:47:03 AM
DONCIC IS AMAZING!

What a steal for Dallas

That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!

did ATL trade him to Dallas?

Yes, and they got a pick...

But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...

...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
The #3 pick has a good history. Our two, Embiid, Beal, Harden, Horford, MJ, Nique, McHale, Maravich, Nate Thurmond, Loscy, and even Cousy. Boston has benefited from the 3rd pick a lot, sad we couldn't get Doncic though. He has future MVP written all over him.

I'd trade JB and Rozier for Doncic, send the sac pick to boot but im sure the Mavs will laugh at that proposal...
specially that JB has his head up in his bum right now with his play.
Iíd do that deal without thinking twice. I rate Doncic higher than I do Tatum. In fact, I rate him higher than any other guy on their rookie deal, including KAT.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 19, 2018, 05:50:41 PM
Suns starting Booker, Bridges, Ariza, Warren, Ayton 

Sounds familiar  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 19, 2018, 11:18:43 PM
J Randle with 21/14/10 25 minutes in win over spurs, E Moore has been great this year, 24 pts, 11 for 16
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 19, 2018, 11:20:15 PM
J Randle with 21/14/10 25 minutes in win over spurs, E Moore has been great this year, 24 pts, 11 for 16
Really good players to complement AD. They just have no depth
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: moiso on November 20, 2018, 12:20:44 AM
Randle has been great.  I really like him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 20, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Bradly are a good fit in The Clippers backcourt. The Clippers traded there two best players and look better....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 20, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
magic down two to raptors with ball and 44 seconds to go
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: JSD on November 21, 2018, 11:12:15 PM
This Kings team is good...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 21, 2018, 11:27:49 PM
This Kings team is good...
I like the way they play more than the way we play, lol
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: slamtheking on November 21, 2018, 11:34:09 PM
This Kings team is good...
I like the way they play more than the way we play, lol
if the Kings and C's continue playing the way they are, there'll be a lot of lamenting over not getting that Laker pick last year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 22, 2018, 12:42:06 AM
Another tough leg injury just now, this time it was Hamidou Diallo. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on November 22, 2018, 01:10:41 AM
Another tough leg injury just now, this time it was Hamidou Diallo.
One of those stomach turning ones?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on November 22, 2018, 01:36:23 AM
Another tough leg injury just now, this time it was Hamidou Diallo.

great news!

https://twitter.com/maddie_m_lee/status/1065493071108796416

Hamidou Diallo news: Any severe lower body injuries (including broken leg, ACL tear, etc.) have been ruled out by Warriors team physicians, according to a Thunder spokesperson. He will be reevaluated tomorrow.

I can hardly believe it
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on November 22, 2018, 03:23:13 AM
Guess nobody cared about LeBron James' second homecoming to Cleveland, in a tight win  :-X

At least this time the Cavs fans were applauding him, as opposed to the 2010 reception he had as a member of the Miami Heat lol.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on November 22, 2018, 07:38:51 AM
Guess nobody cared about LeBron James' second homecoming to Cleveland, in a tight win  :-X

At least this time the Cavs fans were applauding him, as opposed to the 2010 reception he had as a member of the Miami Heat lol.
Imagine Kyrie didn't hit that shot.
There would be peasants with pikes in the arena.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Birdman on November 22, 2018, 07:43:53 AM
Who would thought at Thanksgiving Memphis be first overall in the West...and Boston be an 8th seed right now..
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on November 23, 2018, 05:35:16 PM
Anyone find it remarkable that the 14th seed in the West (Minnesota) is just 5 games back of FIRST place  :o

The Kings are the 10th seed and just 2.5 games back of 1st lol. What a tight conference (minus the Suns)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 24, 2018, 12:05:04 AM
Mitchell Robinson of NYK fouled out in 9 minutes.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 24, 2018, 07:45:39 AM
Anyone see Dre Drummond block Harden 3 or 4 times??

Send it back, Young Fella!!

Dude had 3 steals and 5 blocks in the HOU game.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:19:58 PM
Cavaliers up 91-78 on Houston right now. Ummm....  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 29, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
Phoenix the only team in the WC behind Houston in the standings  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on November 29, 2018, 01:33:11 PM
Strange times. Do they blow it up?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 29, 2018, 01:39:11 PM
Strange times. Do they blow it up?


its going to happen. .....CP3 joins LeWhiner ......its their backup plan .....good lord  8)......that would be the most dreadful pair of cry babies ever on same team .   Difficult ball to watch ....ugh
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: BringToughnessBack on November 29, 2018, 09:18:42 PM
Wow, Leonard is beasting the warriors so far. Pop and Spurs really blew it ...he is a warrior slaying the warriors....We will need it all to come together before facing them in conference finals...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: smokeablount on November 29, 2018, 09:21:26 PM
Great Toronto vs GS game at the half right now, 67-58 Raps up.

Kawhi has 22 on 9-12 shooting.
Durant has 20 with 4 boards and 3 dimes.

Will either hit 40? Both? 50??
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: footey on November 29, 2018, 09:29:45 PM
Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!

I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on November 29, 2018, 10:12:57 PM
Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?

This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Atzar on November 29, 2018, 10:32:40 PM
I don't like Durant but wow, is he some kind of good. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 29, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?

This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
The Spurs clearly preferred proven talent which we really didn't have to offer.  It would have taken a lot to beat the Derozen offer. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on November 29, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
Wow, how many 50 point games will their be this year?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: mr. dee on November 29, 2018, 10:51:24 PM
Iggy's age is showing.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 29, 2018, 11:03:42 PM
The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.

I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.

I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.

I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.

Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.

Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.

I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: footey on November 29, 2018, 11:09:04 PM
Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?

This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.

Or if they win the championship.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: smokeablount on November 29, 2018, 11:15:28 PM
Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?

This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.

Or if they win the championship.

So the pitchforks are on standby in each of your garages then?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 29, 2018, 11:30:57 PM
The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.

I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.

I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.

I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.

Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.

Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.

I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree.  They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level.  I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 29, 2018, 11:59:26 PM
Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!

I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.

He has been solid and very consistent for them, esp on the boards, for about 20 mpg lately.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on November 30, 2018, 12:09:05 AM
My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 30, 2018, 12:16:27 AM
My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.

They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on November 30, 2018, 01:03:45 AM
Clips literally have one offense - keep handoffs going until mismatch and go to mismatch. Great to watch.

I feel like we can beat them in 7 pretty easily though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RockinRyA on November 30, 2018, 05:15:01 AM
Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!

I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.

He has been solid and very consistent for them, esp on the boards, for about 20 mpg lately.

I always loved Jerebko. He's one guy who you could keep glued on the bench and won't complain yet will hustle everytime you put him on. No problems about playing time, number of shots nor lazy D.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Who on November 30, 2018, 08:28:30 AM
The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.

I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.

I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.

I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.

Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.

Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.

I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree.  They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level.  I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.

Agreed too. Toronto should finish the #1 seed but I'd rank them 4th in the East behind Boston, Philly and Milwaukee. I cannot see them making the Finals. They are built for the regular season more than the playoffs. Too limited and predictable on offense. Better teams will be able to get at them defensively in a playoff series.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on November 30, 2018, 09:45:53 AM
My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.

They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.

His scoring isn't really what I'm talking about
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 30, 2018, 10:07:21 AM
My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.

They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.

His scoring isn't really what I'm talking about

Haven't seen Siakam play.. which aspects of his game?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 30, 2018, 10:57:36 AM
My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.

They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.

His scoring isn't really what I'm talking about

Haven't seen Siakam play.. which aspects of his game?

You know how James Johnson was this athletic tweener forward that had the potential to be a high-level two way player, but his inconsistent effort always held him back?

Siakim's best quality is that he plays hard, but he has everything else James Johnson has.

He's no superstar or all-star, but he has the potential to be a really good player.

However, the Celtics best strategy is to bait him into trying to be a scorer/creator. He is not that good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on November 30, 2018, 11:06:49 AM
Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?

This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.

Or if they win the championship.

So the pitchforks are on standby in each of your garages then?

No, because I think as long as his uncle is handling things for him that playing in LA will take priority over winning. I think Kawhi will be a Clipper next year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on November 30, 2018, 11:24:18 AM

He's no superstar or all-star, but he has the potential to be a really good player.

However, the Celtics best strategy is to bait him into trying to be a scorer/creator. He is not that good.

Again I want to point out that I was not suggesting that Siakam is really great or an awesome scorer or something.


He brings things to the table the Celts lack.  Energy, effort, edge, an tendency to get inside.  A guy who combines some of the things Smart does with many of the things Baynes does.

Smart used to bring more of that, but I think it's true that he doesn't have quite as much of an edge now that he's paid.


Generally, the Celts need more lineups that feature both talented scorers and guys who have simple, straightforward role that they perform with gusto. 

Even on the Celts bench, most of those guys try to make an impact on the game by hitting shots.  Rozier, Smart, Morris.  The Celts need more scrap.


That's ironic because it used to be people talked about the Celts as a gimmick team that was nothing but scrap.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on November 30, 2018, 11:25:33 AM
Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!

I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.

He has been solid and very consistent for them, esp on the boards, for about 20 mpg lately.

I always loved Jerebko. He's one guy who you could keep glued on the bench and won't complain yet will hustle everytime you put him on. No problems about playing time, number of shots nor lazy D.
Sound like you are describing Theis!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Briantir on November 30, 2018, 11:33:32 AM
The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.

I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.

I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.

I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.

Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.

Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.

I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree.  They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level.  I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.

Agreed too. Toronto should finish the #1 seed but I'd rank them 4th in the East behind Boston, Philly and Milwaukee. I cannot see them making the Finals. They are built for the regular season more than the playoffs. Too limited and predictable on offense. Better teams will be able to get at them defensively in a playoff series.

I don't really understand how you could think this when Toronto has the best player by far in every series except maybe the Bucks? But the Bucks have never even made it past the first round in fact Toronto beat them with DeRozan.

Do you honestly believe if the Celtics played the Raptors last year in the second round they would have won? Celtics don't have a SUPERSTAR talent LeBron was kryptonite to that team and now he's gone he's the one who's been elimating them every year lol you make it sound like it's the Celtics or the Bucks or philly.

Toronto was always the better team they just never had a closer and now they got one of the best closers in the game Kawhi they are absolutely right now the best team in the East and should make the finals.

The way the Celtics are right now it's a first round 7 games then most likely 2nd round exit assuming they make the playoffs because 20+ games and .500 is not a championship team this ain't Cleveland last year we don't have LeBron the situation is bad.

Respect to Masai building an amazing team
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on November 30, 2018, 12:33:55 PM
It's possible that Kawhi carries them to the Finals by closing a bunch of games with contested two pointers, but that doesn't seem especially likely to me.

The Raptors are a well oiled machine.  They are much, much better than I expected them to be with a new coach and a major new addition on offense.  They're impressive and coordinated on defense.


The Celtics don't inspire a lot of confidence in me right now, but I would tend to agree that the Raps aren't especially scary as a playoff team, even if they're better than the Celts.  Right now it doesn't look very hard to be better than the Celts.


The Sixers look like the team to beat in the conference to me come playoff time, given the addition of Butler.

Simmons - Redick - Butler - Embiid is a lot of firepower. 

A polished and motivated Celtics team could in theory match that, but the Celts are a lot less fiery and a lot less polished than I expected them to be, at least so far.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 30, 2018, 12:43:29 PM
The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.

I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.

I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.

I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.

Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.

Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.

I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree.  They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level.  I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.

Agreed too. Toronto should finish the #1 seed but I'd rank them 4th in the East behind Boston, Philly and Milwaukee. I cannot see them making the Finals. They are built for the regular season more than the playoffs. Too limited and predictable on offense. Better teams will be able to get at them defensively in a playoff series.

I don't really understand how you could think this when Toronto has the best player by far in every series except maybe the Bucks? But the Bucks have never even made it past the first round in fact Toronto beat them with DeRozan.

Do you honestly believe if the Celtics played the Raptors last year in the second round they would have won? Celtics don't have a SUPERSTAR talent LeBron was kryptonite to that team and now he's gone he's the one who's been elimating them every year lol you make it sound like it's the Celtics or the Bucks or philly.

Toronto was always the better team they just never had a closer and now they got one of the best closers in the game Kawhi they are absolutely right now the best team in the East and should make the finals.

The way the Celtics are right now it's a first round 7 games then most likely 2nd round exit assuming they make the playoffs because 20+ games and .500 is not a championship team this ain't Cleveland last year we don't have LeBron the situation is bad.

Respect to Masai building an amazing team

They say this year after year and Raptors disappoint, season still young and the Celtics still got issues to work out but they should work them out.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on November 30, 2018, 12:44:21 PM

He's no superstar or all-star, but he has the potential to be a really good player.

However, the Celtics best strategy is to bait him into trying to be a scorer/creator. He is not that good.

Again I want to point out that I was not suggesting that Siakam is really great or an awesome scorer or something.


He brings things to the table the Celts lack.  Energy, effort, edge, an tendency to get inside.  A guy who combines some of the things Smart does with many of the things Baynes does.

Smart used to bring more of that, but I think it's true that he doesn't have quite as much of an edge now that he's paid.


Generally, the Celts need more lineups that feature both talented scorers and guys who have simple, straightforward role that they perform with gusto. 

Even on the Celts bench, most of those guys try to make an impact on the game by hitting shots.  Rozier, Smart, Morris.  The Celts need more scrap.


That's ironic because it used to be people talked about the Celts as a gimmick team that was nothing but scrap.

And they do scrap, let's not try to prop up another team's player as some missing piece when the Celtics do have those guys.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on November 30, 2018, 01:12:16 PM

And they do scrap, let's not try to prop up another team's player as some missing piece when the Celtics do have those guys.

I don't see that so much with this year's team.   


The Celts don't have enough of the type of glue guys that make 50/50 plays and keep things running smoothly.  Maybe if Hayward were healthy he would provide a lot of that presence, but he's not.  Horford looking more and more his age doesn't help either.

I like Baynes a lot, and Semi provides some of what I'm talking about, but they have fairly matchup specific roles, so they can't provide that in every game.

Smart doesn't seem to do that stuff as much anymore, while Rozier and Mook seem primarily concerned about putting up numbers to earn their next contract (in Mook's case he's shooting super well so it's working out).

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on December 01, 2018, 07:56:58 PM
Knicks beat Bucks in OT
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on December 01, 2018, 08:00:39 PM
Knicks beat Bucks in OT

Like I said, this has been a WEIRD NBA season so far, kind of boring too but maybe it's because it's still early December (and season started earlier than usual)?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on December 01, 2018, 08:56:16 PM

And they do scrap, let's not try to prop up another team's player as some missing piece when the Celtics do have those guys.

I don't see that so much with this year's team.   


The Celts don't have enough of the type of glue guys that make 50/50 plays and keep things running smoothly.  Maybe if Hayward were healthy he would provide a lot of that presence, but he's not.  Horford looking more and more his age doesn't help either.

I like Baynes a lot, and Semi provides some of what I'm talking about, but they have fairly matchup specific roles, so they can't provide that in every game.

Smart doesn't seem to do that stuff as much anymore, while Rozier and Mook seem primarily concerned about putting up numbers to earn their next contract (in Mook's case he's shooting super well so it's working out).

Itís a slow start, theyíre a different team from last year. I think the team is just trying to figure out their role.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 01, 2018, 09:29:19 PM
Play of the year so far.

Dang... wrong thread.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on December 01, 2018, 09:35:12 PM
Pistons throttled Warriors, maybe the rift is real.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Briantir on December 03, 2018, 02:03:50 AM
Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...

Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 03, 2018, 03:32:22 AM
Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...

Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.

I wouldnít say the asking price was super low, they still got an all-star back.

Few teams were willing to reach the Spurs price based on his contract and demands.

As for whether it was worth it for the Raptors, itís way too early to tell. Thereís just as good a chance they get eliminated in the second round and he bolts as they make the Finals.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2018, 07:08:39 AM
Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...

Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.

I wouldnít say the asking price was super low, they still got an all-star back.

Few teams were willing to reach the Spurs price based on his contract and demands.

As for whether it was worth it for the Raptors, itís way too early to tell. Thereís just as good a chance they get eliminated in the second round and he bolts as they make the Finals.
I'd say it was worth it even if Kahwi leaves.  Toronto is in a win now mode and Kahwi is a significant upgrade over DeRozan.  All they lost was the last 2 years of Derozan's contract which might actually be a good thing if they want to go in rebuild mode. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Briantir on December 03, 2018, 11:06:44 AM
Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...

Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.

I wouldnít say the asking price was super low, they still got an all-star back.

Few teams were willing to reach the Spurs price based on his contract and demands.

As for whether it was worth it for the Raptors, itís way too early to tell. Thereís just as good a chance they get eliminated in the second round and he bolts as they make the Finals.

 I believe when a talent like Kawhi becomes available through trade which almost never happens you do what ever it takes to get him and worry about him leaving later. I've been watching Toronto his first 10 games Kawhi looked a little timid and wasn't sure what the Raptors were about, but now it looks like he's starting to believe and playing at the highest level at this point I'm 75% sure Toronto wins the East this year and if Kawhi re-signs then Masai is the best GM but I'm also in the belief that the Spurs wanted him to go to Toronto and wern't willing to create another "Super Team" in the league. 

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 04, 2018, 09:48:36 PM
Suns down 33 just 16 minutes into the game.

Thatís a special type of pathetic.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on December 04, 2018, 09:58:40 PM
Suns down 33 just 16 minutes into the game.

Thatís a special type of pathetic.

And to the Kings no less! That's inexcusable. Wall deserves to be exiled to the Suns/
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on December 05, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 03:47:36 PM
I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.

I'm really jonesing for some Celtics basketball... What a long time between games!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.

Embiid is not having a very good game. He keeps trying to bump into people to get to the line but the Raptors keep moving out of the way.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 05, 2018, 09:56:35 PM
I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.

Pretty entertaining game.  Kawhi is truly incredible.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 09:58:26 PM
I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.

Pretty entertaining game.  Kawhi is truly incredible.

Butler is a frustrating player to root for. He's very emotional....

Kawhi is incredible!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
Valanciunas is schooling Embiid!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on December 05, 2018, 10:10:22 PM
Toronto is giving Philly the business.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on December 05, 2018, 10:20:43 PM
Toronto is giving Philly the business.


Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.

Sixers should trade Fultz while they can still get something for him. They need help.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 10:21:57 PM
Toronto is giving Philly the business.


Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.

Embiid is mentally weak when things don't go his way....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 10:22:52 PM
OMG Kawhi with the JAM!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Ogaju on December 05, 2018, 10:24:26 PM
Toronto is giving Philly the business.


Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.

Sixers should trade Fultz while they can still get something for him. They need help.

WOW Toronto is for real. I did not appreciate it when some had them #1 in the East before the season. Now I see exactly why. They are the team to beat in the East.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on December 05, 2018, 10:25:19 PM
Toronto is giving Philly the business.


Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.

Embiid is mentally weak when things don't go his way....

That whole roster lacks vet leadership. Butler doesn't help in that department either
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 05, 2018, 10:29:30 PM
Toronto is giving Philly the business.


Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.

Embiid is mentally weak when things don't go his way....

That whole roster lacks vet leadership. Butler doesn't help in that department either

Leonard is so much better than Butler that it's not funny...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 05, 2018, 10:52:15 PM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on December 05, 2018, 10:57:46 PM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.

Poor Kyrie......  :(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 06, 2018, 12:20:11 AM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.

Poor Kyrie......  :(

Could be Kyrie, could be butler, could be griffin or walker (they are not glamorous but are both playing incredible this season)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 06, 2018, 12:39:56 AM
No one can cry to the refs like LeBron>>>>
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rondo9 on December 06, 2018, 12:58:52 AM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.

Poor Kyrie......  :(

Could be Kyrie, could be butler, could be griffin or walker (they are not glamorous but are both playing incredible this season)

So they are glamorous then? Whew! I was about to declare the Celtics non contenders because they donít have a transcedent star. ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on December 06, 2018, 01:08:00 AM
Lakers look really good. Dang it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on December 06, 2018, 01:55:09 AM
Warriors outlasted the Cavs in NBA Finals rematch but things seem different these days  ??? Curry with another monster performance.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on December 06, 2018, 02:54:27 AM
Lakers look really good. Dang it.


I mean, LeBron is really good.

The rest of that team is ... meh.  Nobody I'd really want starting except maybe Josh Hart.


The Spurs make me sad.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: PhoSita on December 06, 2018, 02:56:34 AM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.


Those three guys are amazing.  I would say, however, that none of those guys feels unstoppable to me in a playoff series, and they're all fairly predictable in crunch time.

None of them is LeBron.


Now, that's not to say that the Celts will be good enough when the time comes to actually beat them ....

But I like our guy to go toe to toe with those guys in terms of taking / making big shots in close fourth quarters.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on December 06, 2018, 03:30:44 AM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.
Until Embiid matches up with Baynes.
Then he wakes up in sweat.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on December 06, 2018, 04:47:22 AM
The Lakers structured their salary cap to make sure they would have space next summer for a maximum-salaried player—whether he comes via free agency or trade. League sources say that when James became convinced Irving couldn’t be persuaded to stay in Cleveland, he suggested to the Cavs front office that it deal Irving to the Blazers for All-Star point guard Damian Lillard. The Cavs never called the Blazers, but James’ interest has led to speculation about the Lakers trading for Lillard. – via Bleacher Report

It amazing how much media BS LeBron's camp is emitting.
As per usual practice, it is timed after most of it is forgotten by the casual fans.

I remember that Kyrie was on the table for about a month, they have been searching for the best offers patiently and the bit where "The Cavs never called the Blazers" sounds just about impossible to me.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Green-18 on December 06, 2018, 07:06:32 AM
The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isnít even in the same league.
Until Embiid matches up with Baynes.
Then he wakes up in sweat.

Embiid is absolutely proving to be among the elite players in the league but I still can't put him on the same level as Leonard or Giannis.  This is mostly due to the position he plays and his lack of efficiency. 

There are ways to neutralize Embiid's style of play in crunch time, which the Celtics have successfully done with Horford.  Leonard and Giannis scare me a lot of more in a 7 game series.

On a side note, Embiid deserves some credit for completely outplaying Anthony Davis in their past two meetings.  The eye test and statistics support Davis as the far better player.  Kudos to  Embiid for taking on the match-up as a personal challenge. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on December 06, 2018, 09:52:57 AM
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:

Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris

This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.

Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson

Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).

Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st

The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 06, 2018, 10:37:26 PM
The Suns just stink.

Why isn't Ayton starting?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RJ87 on December 06, 2018, 10:47:14 PM
Refs working in Houston's favor early in this one. That first call against him was garbage, the second one was a flop by Harden.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 06, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Suns coach got those wild eyes ....might become unhinged ...LOL
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 06, 2018, 10:50:17 PM
these Houston utah games are gonna be good ones next few seasons
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 06, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
Gobert ejected for slamming something off scorers table
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 07, 2018, 12:27:32 AM
Refs working in Houston's favor early in this one. That first call against him was garbage, the second one was a flop by Harden.

But unfortunately Houston stinks....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on December 07, 2018, 12:29:29 AM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 07, 2018, 12:52:16 AM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.

Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 07, 2018, 02:46:02 AM
Gobert ejected for slamming something off scorers table

in 2:47 LOL

reminds me of when Rasheed was thrown out after 85 seconds  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 07, 2018, 02:58:12 AM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.

Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good

I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on December 07, 2018, 04:19:51 AM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.

Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good

I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.

I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.

Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).

Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.

Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 07, 2018, 12:24:48 PM
Suns have scored 9 points in the first quarter of consecutive games

 :o :-[ :'(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on December 07, 2018, 12:39:14 PM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.

Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good

I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.

I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.

Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).

Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.

Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.

Houston desperately misses the contributions they got from Ariza and LRMAM. It's particularly glaring on the defensive side of the ball. Neither were 'lights out' three point shooters, but both were capable, and Ariza consistently took a high volume of threes and maintained a solid percentage. Ariza was also a sort of 'iron man', hardly ever missing a game and typically being in the top 5 in the league in minutes played.

Houston probably made a mistake in letting them go, although lux tax concerns did play a part.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: wiley on December 07, 2018, 01:40:39 PM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.

Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good

I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.

I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.

Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).

Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.

Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.

Houston desperately misses the contributions they got from Ariza and LRMAM. It's particularly glaring on the defensive side of the ball. Neither were 'lights out' three point shooters, but both were capable, and Ariza consistently took a high volume of threes and maintained a solid percentage. Ariza was also a sort of 'iron man', hardly ever missing a game and typically being in the top 5 in the league in minutes played.

Houston probably made a mistake in letting them go, although lux tax concerns did play a part.

can houston resign him if he does a buyout?  Seeing him in Phoenix is one of this year's strangest sights to behold...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 07, 2018, 05:08:51 PM
Houston have some serious problems now.

They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.

Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good

I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.

I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.

Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).

Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.

Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.

Houston desperately misses the contributions they got from Ariza and LRMAM. It's particularly glaring on the defensive side of the ball. Neither were 'lights out' three point shooters, but both were capable, and Ariza consistently took a high volume of threes and maintained a solid percentage. Ariza was also a sort of 'iron man', hardly ever missing a game and typically being in the top 5 in the league in minutes played.

Houston probably made a mistake in letting them go, although lux tax concerns did play a part.

can houston resign him if he does a buyout?  Seeing him in Phoenix is one of this year's strangest sights to behold...
He was a free agent so they should be able to but he'll draw a lot of interest. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on December 07, 2018, 09:45:27 PM
Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: footey on December 07, 2018, 10:03:07 PM
Nets just beat Raptors. Sweet.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on December 07, 2018, 10:03:22 PM
nets beat raptors in OT
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: BringToughnessBack on December 07, 2018, 10:37:33 PM
Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half

Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him.  If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on December 07, 2018, 10:42:25 PM
Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half

Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him.  If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.

Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: BringToughnessBack on December 07, 2018, 10:46:13 PM
Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half

Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him.  If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.

Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.

How great though to imagine Celtics vs Lakers, Kyrie vs Lebron in a few finals?! Would be epic!!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on December 07, 2018, 11:05:32 PM
Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half

Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him.  If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.

Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.

How great though to imagine Celtics vs Lakers, Kyrie vs Lebron in a few finals?! Would be epic!!

I want some payback for 2010. And got to build spaces away from their championship counts.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 08, 2018, 12:03:14 AM
Millsap broken toe

Another injury plagued season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on December 08, 2018, 12:04:22 AM
Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half

Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him.  If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.

Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.

How great though to imagine Celtics vs Lakers, Kyrie vs Lebron in a few finals?! Would be epic!!
imagine how many people would watch it. So many storylines too. Historic Lakers vs Celtics, kyrie vs lebron, lebron vs Celtics playoff history, brown vs Ingram (draft position), Tatum vs ball (draft position), 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bopna on December 08, 2018, 01:43:15 AM
Wow....

The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 08, 2018, 06:15:25 AM
Wow....

The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.

TP. This might be unique. A conference where 13-14 teams have a legit chance to make the playoffs. I love it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: cman88 on December 08, 2018, 11:29:56 AM
Wow....

The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.

TP. This might be unique. A conference where 13-14 teams have a legit chance to make the playoffs. I love it.

While not as close, the east is pretty lumped together as well. Celtics are 1 in the loss column out of 2nd place.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 08, 2018, 11:47:48 AM
Wow....

The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.

TP. This might be unique. A conference where 13-14 teams have a legit chance to make the playoffs. I love it.

While not as close, the east is pretty lumped together as well. Celtics are 1 in the loss column out of 2nd place.

Well in the East there are already a bunch of teams (quite) certain to make the playoffs (Toronto, Boston, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Indiana) and also who aren't (Atlanta, Cleveland, Chicago, Brooklyn, New York). It's basically a competition for three places between Detroit, Charlotte, Washington, Orlando and Miami.

It's hard to predict which teams fail to make the playoffs in the West. My prediction would be that Phoenix ( ;D), Sacramento, Dallas, Minnesota, Houston, San Antonio and Memphis don't make it. But I could easily be wrong about 4 teams or so.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 08, 2018, 12:31:24 PM
Millsap broken toe

Another injury plagued season

Gary Harris (hip) out 3-4 weeks now
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Kiorrik on December 09, 2018, 12:12:40 AM
Derrick Rose is still a miracle. To play this well with those rotten knees of his... It's something else man.

18 points
3 rebounds
9 assists
3 steals
1 block

Game still going but that aint bad. Especially with only 2 turnovers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 09, 2018, 01:03:10 AM
SAC and MEM and LAC lost

2/3
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 09, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
As of today, per bball-ref, the top 3 teams in the league in point differential are all in the East: the Bucks (+9.4), the Raptors (+7.9), and the Celtics (+7.4). The Thunder are 4th (+6.6), followed by the Nuggets (+6.4), and the Warriors sit in 6th place (+5.8 ) as they've struggled with injuries.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 09, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Anthony Davis apparently suffered an injury tonight against Detroit.  Sounds to be a minor right hip injury but is questionable for tomorrow.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bopna on December 09, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on December 09, 2018, 08:51:48 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.

TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 09, 2018, 10:05:13 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.

TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.

Iím not so sure TOR is the team to beat. Iím not sure any team has emerged above the rest.

Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, Iíd favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on December 09, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.

TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.

Iím not so sure TOR is the team to beat. Iím not sure any team has emerged above the rest.

Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, Iíd favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.


We've already beaten the Raptors this season when we were far from our best. The Bucks however I am still worried about. We need to see how we match up against them this season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 10, 2018, 01:28:47 AM
I think Boston has the best team in the East by far. They had a rough early schedule(a 5 game West Coast swing, 6 back to backs, 2 series of 4 games in 6 nights, 15 games on the road in the first 25 games, the 4th hardest strength of schedule) and have overcome some nagging injuries, fitting in two players, one 100% ready, one not.

And yet the Celtics are 4 games in the loss column out of first place and are now playing some of the best ball in the league
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: trickybilly on December 10, 2018, 04:35:35 AM
I think Boston has the best team in the East by far. They had a rough early schedule(a 5 game West Coast swing, 6 back to backs, 2 series of 4 games in 6 nights, 15 games on the road in the first 25 games, the 4th hardest strength of schedule) and have overcome some nagging injuries, fitting in two players, one 100% ready, one not.

And yet the Celtics are 4 games in the loss column out of first place and are now playing some of the best ball in the league

Ugh, can we just go back in time and sticky this to EVERY sky is falling thread. TP.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 10, 2018, 04:56:06 AM
I think Boston has the best team in the East by far. They had a rough early schedule(a 5 game West Coast swing, 6 back to backs, 2 series of 4 games in 6 nights, 15 games on the road in the first 25 games, the 4th hardest strength of schedule) and have overcome some nagging injuries, fitting in two players, one 100% ready, one not.

And yet the Celtics are 4 games in the loss column out of first place and are now playing some of the best ball in the league

Make it 3 in the loss column!

And we havenít trailed in the second half of the last five games. Great to see us get off to great starts and push the lead.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 10, 2018, 05:03:59 AM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.

TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.

Iím not so sure TOR is the team to beat. Iím not sure any team has emerged above the rest.

Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, Iíd favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.


We've already beaten the Raptors this season when we were far from our best. The Bucks however I am still worried about. We need to see how we match up against them this season.

Honestly, I donít see what matchup we donít have an answer for. We are so versatile and have so many options that in a long series I trust Brad to negate whatever perceived advantage they could have (which is only Giannis, who we know how to neutralize). We beat them without our two best players (and Mr. +50) last season. And they lost Parker who hurt us in a couple games. Lopez and Hill arenít going to close the gap.

Regular season is one thing, any team can beat any team. But in a series, I donít see a tougher team for us in the East than Toronto.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: 10610786d on December 10, 2018, 07:11:46 AM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.

TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.

Iím not so sure TOR is the team to beat. Iím not sure any team has emerged above the rest.

Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, Iíd favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.


We've already beaten the Raptors this season when we were far from our best. The Bucks however I am still worried about. We need to see how we match up against them this season.

Apparently Baynes and Ojeley are the ultimate Giannis killers
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ederson on December 10, 2018, 07:25:00 AM
Apparently Baynes and Ojeley are the ultimate Giannis killers

Actually they are not but he can't beat the Celtics all by himself
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Green-18 on December 10, 2018, 08:07:55 AM
Apparently Baynes and Ojeley are the ultimate Giannis killers

Actually they are not but he can't beat the Celtics all by himself

I'm very interested to see how Brad handles the rotation against the Bucks later this month.  Semi got the start in the previous game, but the team wasn't completely healthy.  I expect Semi to get a minimum of 15 MPG.  Nobody on the Celtics has a better combination of strength and lateral quickness in a match-up against Giannis.  Giannis loves to establish downhill momentum from the perimeter.  Semi does a solid job of making every drive difficult.


   
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 10, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
As of today, per bball-ref, the top 3 teams in the league in point differential are all in the East: the Bucks (+9.4), the Raptors (+7.9), and the Celtics (+7.4). The Thunder are 4th (+6.6), followed by the Nuggets (+6.4), and the Warriors sit in 6th place (+5.8 ) as they've struggled with injuries.

You just named the teams who (imo) have a (outside) chance to win the championship. TP. My order of favorites:

1. Warriors
2. Raptors
3. Celtics
4. Bucks
5. Thunder
6. Nuggets

Furthermore I would only mention the Rockets if they can turn it around (right now they play terrible) or the Lakers if they make a massive trade.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 10, 2018, 02:17:39 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on December 10, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 10, 2018, 02:52:36 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 10, 2018, 07:25:37 PM
Stinks griffin, Johnson and smith are out tonight. These 76ers pistons games have been entertaining with the teams in the first few matchups. Griffin scored something like 50 in a pistons win the first game. Then the 76ers returned the favor with embiid out. Our game is missing a lot of star power tonight too
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 10, 2018, 07:33:33 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 10, 2018, 07:37:14 PM
No wall tonight. Wonder how the wizards will look without him. I am still surprised they have not blown that team up yet
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 10, 2018, 10:17:11 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 10:44:03 PM
The Bulls stink.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
Lonzo with a terrible blown open layup!

It's going to be a highlight....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 10, 2018, 10:45:10 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 10:46:01 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.

McHale.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 10:49:06 PM
The Lakers have missed a half dozen layups early...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 10, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.

McHale.
Not sure he really had the speed, even before the foot problems, but he certainly would have been better than most.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: slamtheking on December 10, 2018, 10:52:36 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him. 
the paint would have been packed more back then since the 3 was not the primary offensive threat that it is today so less spacing results in more defenders around to help.  Bucks had Bob Lanier at center back then - do you think they'd be pulling him out from around the basket for Giannis?  not likely.   

there were no players driving to the lane from the 3 point line like Giannis does simply because most of the players were around the lane/basket.  as a SF in that time, he'd also have to have a better shot than he does currently.  he also wouldn't be getting the superstar treatment that didn't really come along until after Bird and Magic retired and the league had to promote Jordan as its primary star

he'd still be something to see in that timeframe but I don't think he'd be dominant.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 10:53:18 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.

McHale.
Not sure he really had the speed, even before the foot problems, but he certainly would have been better than most.

Before McHale played on those broken feet he could guard almost anyone. He had to guard anyone Bird couldn't. Great defender. All-Defensive First Team (1986, '87, '88) All- Defensive Second Team (1983, '89, '90)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 10, 2018, 10:56:33 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
You really think McHale couldn't guard him? Pippen? Oakley? Moncrief? I completely disagree with you. People could guard Magic well. And with the non-emphasis on three pointers and pace and space, the paint would have been very crowded.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 10:59:23 PM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
You really think McHale couldn't guard him? Pippen? Oakley? Moncrief? I completely disagree with you. People could guard Magic well. And with the non-emphasis on three pointers and pace and space, the paint would have been very crowded.

The real question is who could guard McHale in the modern NBA?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 10, 2018, 11:09:17 PM
Pat Riley really did a bad job putting together this over priced Heat team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Kiorrik on December 10, 2018, 11:40:10 PM
MIN @GSW... 4 blatant non-calls. The announcers saying "they couldíve called a foul but let them play instead" is like saying "they couldíve followed the rules but decided not to". This kinda thing matters.

They're down only 6 points.

This is a huge part of why I stopped watching the NBA.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 10, 2018, 11:55:09 PM
MIN @GSW... 4 blatant non-calls. The announcers saying "they couldíve called a foul but let them play instead" is like saying "they couldíve followed the rules but decided not to". This kinda thing matters.

They're down only 6 points.

This is a huge part of why I stopped watching the NBA.
I don't mind when an officiating squad decides to let the boys play rough. Just be consistent. What is a foul or traveling on one side of the court needs to be the same thing on the other end of the court. Sadly, it often isn't done that way as stars get star treatment and some teams are the darlings of the league and get special treatment.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 01:03:50 AM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.

To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.

And all that is not even mentioning the fact  that the Bucksí hot start to the season and the Celticsí mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor weíve started the season.

They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''

They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.

I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.

On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.

Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him.  I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's.  I mean that seriously.  He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF.  I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him.  So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
You really think McHale couldn't guard him? Pippen? Oakley? Moncrief? I completely disagree with you. People could guard Magic well. And with the non-emphasis on three pointers and pace and space, the paint would have been very crowded.

The real question is who could guard McHale in the modern NBA?

Also when people discuss this stuff which era are they playing with the rules from? People would absolutely hammer Giannis when he came into the paint in the old days. I donít think he could do it quite as much as he does now. Is there handchecking? Also do these guys Oakley, mchale etc get access to first class travel, hotels, training, nutrition? Itís incredible to think how good someone like mchale would have been with access to these things
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RockinRyA on December 11, 2018, 02:20:02 AM
Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.

Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...

atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.

The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.

They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.

Their fans feel different. They are not impressed with the Craptors and said they fear the Celtics more.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 02:40:51 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 11, 2018, 02:42:00 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 11, 2018, 06:37:11 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
PBRD?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 11, 2018, 08:28:31 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jambr380 on December 11, 2018, 08:43:40 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
PBRD?

Come on, LB is just throwing out a gimme here: Premium Brand Ricky Davis, of course!  ;D

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Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: apc on December 11, 2018, 10:42:37 AM
So Rondo and Wade didn't exchange Jerseys?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 11, 2018, 11:39:07 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 11:55:53 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I Agree to disagree Moranis
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 11, 2018, 12:16:51 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I Agree to disagree Moranis
with what exactly do you disagree?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 11, 2018, 01:02:56 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
PBRD?
Poor something Ricky Davis I think. It's LBs go to insult for Jimmy Butler
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 11, 2018, 01:07:11 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 01:27:12 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I Agree to disagree Moranis
with what exactly do you disagree?

I disagree that minutes played are more important than age. At best, in my opinion, they are equal. At the end of the day we are still human beings subject to the process of aging and there is lots of data that shows the slight impact of aging each year every person lives. The minutes played would certainly be a confounding factor, but not the overwhelming factor that is more important than age. You also have the risk of injuries, and recovery time from said injuries as a big factor correlated with age. To be honest I have a really hard time believing that many general managers would view jimmy butler at age 34 as a lesser risk of drop off than Irving at 32 just because Irving had played 200 more minutes or whatever because of longer playoff runs. (I also have a pretty hard believing you believe this either). However if you really believe that minutes are more important than age I donít think it is worth either of our time to argue about it because there is so much conflicting data and confounding factors the conversation will go nowhere useful
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jambr380 on December 11, 2018, 03:10:09 PM
Poor something Ricky Davis I think. It's LBs go to insult for Jimmy Butler

Dude, you totally skipped my above answer and accompanying picture example. I was totally proud of my Kroger vs Kraft Mac n Cheese picture, too!  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 11, 2018, 03:23:29 PM
TP. Yup, I missed that.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 11, 2018, 03:58:09 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 05:56:12 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: footey on December 11, 2018, 07:31:36 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Anecdotal at best. It doesnít matter what you argue. The fact is that most if not all GMs are likely to value a younger player to an older one, everything else being equal.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 11, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once). 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 11, 2018, 10:07:03 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 11, 2018, 11:25:30 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.

Yea, I appreciate the effort that Moranis has put into this, but I really feel like it doesnít make sense. Carmelo for example is washed up right now cause he never adjusted his game. Wade and pierce developed an old man game to offset their declining athleticism. Lebron has bucked the trend by being in the cutting of fitness and nutrition. Age still is important though. It is the thing people spend the most money On in the world to defy. If it was a matter of
NBA minutes played offsetting that it would be quite wild
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 11, 2018, 11:33:03 PM
Years ago on this site there was a discussion on the effective longevity of shooting guards. I did a bunch a research and it showed, unless you were a freak superstar at the position, that almost all SGs games, even All-Star level SGs, fell off a cliff at about 31-32 years old. Now a bunch of that data had data from decades where most players got in the league at 22 years old but also didn't have the advantages of modern medicine, dietitians  and training.  But still, it was about ten years and as a SG you lost your legs and your shot just was never the same again.

I could easily see that with players coming in younger and better overall modern advances could push that to 12 years, regardless of age. Someone said that overall GMs would prefer younger players. At 30 compared to 22 or 25, sure as long as the talent level is the same. The advantage of a lower salary and being able to have them more years makes a huge difference. But, depending upon the circumstances with the team as a whole, if you are competing for a title, you want the more experienced guy, talent being equal.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 12, 2018, 12:17:59 AM
Well, Iíd say we arenít getting the Clips pick. They are not a good team.

Getting absolutely smoked at home against a team missing their best player? Yeah, no Williams, but címon.

As soon as a few teams in the West wake up, they will start dropping in the standings quick. They just donít have the firepower to hang.

They should be on the outside looking in by the new year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: 10610786d on December 12, 2018, 06:19:40 AM
Well, Iíd say we arenít getting the Clips pick. They are not a good team.

Getting absolutely smoked at home against a team missing their best player? Yeah, no Williams, but címon.

As soon as a few teams in the West wake up, they will start dropping in the standings quick. They just donít have the firepower to hang.

They should be on the outside looking in by the new year.

They've flied before all 12 of their games - as in, before their last 12 games, the Clippers team was on a plane (I heard anyway)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 12, 2018, 06:25:11 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.

Yea, I appreciate the effort that Moranis has put into this, but I really feel like it doesnít make sense. Carmelo for example is washed up right now cause he never adjusted his game. Wade and pierce developed an old man game to offset their declining athleticism. Lebron has bucked the trend by being in the cutting of fitness and nutrition. Age still is important though. It is the thing people spend the most money On in the world to defy. If it was a matter of
NBA minutes played offsetting that it would be quite wild
Anthony is in his 16th season.  In his 15th season he was still averaging 16/6.  Pippen's 15th season he was averaging 11/4/4 and his 16th season was his last year in the league.  Anthony, quite simply, has a ton of mileage on those legs.  Sure he didn't adapt as much as he should have, but he also was still a decent player last year.  His mileage is the problem though as he can't do what he used to be able to do and what according to you someone his age should be able to do. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Moranis on December 12, 2018, 06:36:31 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Robinson played 6 games his 8th season though.  Injuries change everything especially when you are older when you have them (Jordan getting hurt in year 2 is a much different injury than if Jordan would have been hurt 8+ years in).  He was never really the same after he got hurt (except that him getting hurt led to Duncan and the team success he never had before that). 

The last of Dirk's true peak was 2011 (his 12th year).  His minutes, shots, etc. all started declining after that point and he wasn't quite the same.  Sure he was still really good, but he showed a clear decline from that season on.  When you start at a HOF level you aren't just going to fall off a cliff and become crappy, it is a gradual decline. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 12, 2018, 11:47:16 AM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Robinson played 6 games his 8th season though.  Injuries change everything especially when you are older when you have them (Jordan getting hurt in year 2 is a much different injury than if Jordan would have been hurt 8+ years in).  He was never really the same after he got hurt (except that him getting hurt led to Duncan and the team success he never had before that). 

The last of Dirk's true peak was 2011 (his 12th year).  His minutes, shots, etc. all started declining after that point and he wasn't quite the same.  Sure he was still really good, but he showed a clear decline from that season on.  When you start at a HOF level you aren't just going to fall off a cliff and become crappy, it is a gradual decline.

Just looking at Dirks' career:

His rpg peaked in years 4 and 5 and there was a steady decline after year 7. Looking at rebounds (a stat predicated very much on effort and timing) you could argue he started his gradual decline in year 8.

His minutes started going down after year 11 but he played more mpg in year 16 than he did in year 15 and he played more mpg in year 18 than he did in year 17.

He had the best eFG% of his career in year 16, a year in which he averaged almost identical ppg as his 6th year.

I don't think these things happen in a clean, gradual way. As players lose some skills, they can gain others and it happens at different times for different people. But it's a combination of things not just hitting an arbitrary number of years in the NBA.

If you have some data on this I'd love to see it but you haven't presented any and I've given a number of examples of guys who, I think, don't match your model.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 12, 2018, 11:55:36 AM
Years ago on this site there was a discussion on the effective longevity of shooting guards. I did a bunch a research and it showed, unless you were a freak superstar at the position, that almost all SGs games, even All-Star level SGs, fell off a cliff at about 31-32 years old. Now a bunch of that data had data from decades where most players got in the league at 22 years old but also didn't have the advantages of modern medicine, dietitians  and training.  But still, it was about ten years and as a SG you lost your legs and your shot just was never the same again.

That rings true to me and yet, JJ Redick just had the two best years of his career at age 33 and 34. When Reggie Miller was 35, he averaged 19 ppg, 39 mpg, and played 81 games. Kobe averaged 27-6-6 at age 34, playing 78 games and over 38 mpg (and then his body exploded).

There are always examples of guys who last longer and don't last as long. If we're talking in generalities, what you're saying is probably correct but I think it's more instructive to look at how age and mileage affect players differently (aside from the obvious, at some point getting older makes you worse).
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 12, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
Well, Iíd say we arenít getting the Clips pick. They are not a good team.

Getting absolutely smoked at home against a team missing their best player? Yeah, no Williams, but címon.

As soon as a few teams in the West wake up, they will start dropping in the standings quick. They just donít have the firepower to hang.

They should be on the outside looking in by the new year.

They've flied before all 12 of their games - as in, before their last 12 games, the Clippers team was on a plane (I heard anyway)

I heard it was 13 lol, Rough stretch

SEGABABA with the previous game going into OT, also 3rd in 4 nights
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2018, 02:08:22 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.

Yea, I appreciate the effort that Moranis has put into this, but I really feel like it doesnít make sense. Carmelo for example is washed up right now cause he never adjusted his game. Wade and pierce developed an old man game to offset their declining athleticism. Lebron has bucked the trend by being in the cutting of fitness and nutrition. Age still is important though. It is the thing people spend the most money On in the world to defy. If it was a matter of
NBA minutes played offsetting that it would be quite wild
Anthony is in his 16th season.  In his 15th season he was still averaging 16/6.  Pippen's 15th season he was averaging 11/4/4 and his 16th season was his last year in the league.  Anthony, quite simply, has a ton of mileage on those legs.  Sure he didn't adapt as much as he should have, but he also was still a decent player last year.  His mileage is the problem though as he can't do what he used to be able to do and what according to you someone his age should be able to do.

Carmelo was awful last year. He was benched in the playoffs. Iím not sure what you are trying to argue at this point, but when you say Carmelo was decent last year you are on the wrong side of it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2018, 02:10:28 PM
Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes.  As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606).  Irving also has a far more extensive injury history.  I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract. 

The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him.  That is what derailed Noah and Rose.  Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs.  He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course).  That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).   

History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be.  They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time).  That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.

I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced.  I mean look at Anthony and Wade.  Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony.  That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline.  That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc.  Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage.  Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28).  Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35.  Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.

Didnít jermaine OíNeal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. Itís also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man thatís really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons.  You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so).   It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35.   You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits.  Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).

That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.

Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.

I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.

EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Robinson played 6 games his 8th season though.  Injuries change everything especially when you are older when you have them (Jordan getting hurt in year 2 is a much different injury than if Jordan would have been hurt 8+ years in).  He was never really the same after he got hurt (except that him getting hurt led to Duncan and the team success he never had before that). 

The last of Dirk's true peak was 2011 (his 12th year).  His minutes, shots, etc. all started declining after that point and he wasn't quite the same.  Sure he was still really good, but he showed a clear decline from that season on.  When you start at a HOF level you aren't just going to fall off a cliff and become crappy, it is a gradual decline.

Just looking at Dirks' career:

His rpg peaked in years 4 and 5 and there was a steady decline after year 7. Looking at rebounds (a stat predicated very much on effort and timing) you could argue he started his gradual decline in year 8.

His minutes started going down after year 11 but he played more mpg in year 16 than he did in year 15 and he played more mpg in year 18 than he did in year 17.

He had the best eFG% of his career in year 16, a year in which he averaged almost identical ppg as his 6th year.

I don't think these things happen in a clean, gradual way. As players lose some skills, they can gain others and it happens at different times for different people. But it's a combination of things not just hitting an arbitrary number of years in the NBA.

If you have some data on this I'd love to see it but you haven't presented any and I've given a number of examples of guys who, I think, don't match your model.

I am pretty sure this isnít based on a highly complicated statistical model. It definitely isnít true that minutes definitely outweigh age. Iíve seen a lot of research on this across sports and there is no magic bullet.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on December 12, 2018, 09:47:05 PM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 12, 2018, 09:50:11 PM
Miami just stinks tonight. Down 30 in the second quarter.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 12, 2018, 10:04:05 PM
Tonight was apparently ADís seventh locker room visit this season.

Guess thatís what people mean when they say he gets dinged up often or has numerous injury scares...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2018, 10:16:46 PM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 12, 2018, 10:20:24 PM
The standings this year are crazy tight in the Eastern and Western conference. The Playoffs are going to be amazing this year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 12, 2018, 10:20:53 PM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D
If Raptors lose it's just 2 games in the loss column with Raptors 3 more games than us.

Boston struggled to get in sync for 20 games. Then they figure it out and suddenly they look like they are the best team in the East. And no other team ran away with the conference. C's going to take the East after all.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on December 12, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
Toronto looks good tonight and here I was thinking they were about to slide down the standings.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 12, 2018, 11:39:17 PM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Surferdad on December 12, 2018, 11:50:22 PM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
Minny can be so inept sometimes.

Nets also beat the Sixers who were without Butler.  Cís were without THREE of their best players, lol.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: smokeablount on December 13, 2018, 12:02:21 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 13, 2018, 12:07:00 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

the ONE season we get their pick...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on December 13, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
Yeesh....Raps are smoking the Dubs on their own floor, and they don't even have Kawhi tonight.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: jpotter33 on December 13, 2018, 12:28:42 AM
I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 13, 2018, 12:32:14 AM
David Joerger is a hell of a coach, unfortunately...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on December 13, 2018, 12:36:18 AM
I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.

If Durant or Curry get hurt theyíre done. They have ZERO depth.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on December 13, 2018, 12:40:31 AM
I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.

If Durant or Curry get hurt theyíre done. They have ZERO depth.

They do seem more top heavy than ever.  Boogie (whenever he returns) is going to be one heck of a wild-card though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 13, 2018, 01:03:13 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak.  Kinda a shame.  Not much value in picks in those range.  G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 13, 2018, 01:30:49 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak.  Kinda a shame.  Not much value in picks in those range.  G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Luckily the season doesn't end today. Memphis(losers of 6 of last 10 games) and LAC(losers of 4 of last 6 games) are trending down after their hot start. And Sactown might have the most difficult schedule in the league over the next month. In 2 months, those picks may be extremely valuable.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 13, 2018, 01:52:55 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak.  Kinda a shame.  Not much value in picks in those range.  G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Luckily the season doesn't end today. Memphis(losers of 6 of last 10 games) and LAC(losers of 4 of last 6 games) are trending down after their hot start. And Sactown might have the most difficult schedule in the league over the next month. In 2 months, those picks may be extremely valuable.

Didnít you know we are pretty much out of the running for the top record and the picks are worthless already? After all, itís almost the middle of December.

Iím surprised this forum survived a 10-10 start.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: gouki88 on December 13, 2018, 02:06:37 AM
I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
Yeah, their depth is really quite terrible. Iggy is basically a non-factor for them now, Livingston is slowing, their other backup guards arenít noteworthy (although I like Cook) and their only starting caliber 5 (not counting Dray) is Boogie, who could be absolutely anything when he returns.

They were a healthy CP3 from perhaps losing the WCF, and theyíve regressed since then.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 13, 2018, 02:28:32 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak.  Kinda a shame.  Not much value in picks in those range.  G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Luckily the season doesn't end today. Memphis(losers of 6 of last 10 games) and LAC(losers of 4 of last 6 games) are trending down after their hot start. And Sactown might have the most difficult schedule in the league over the next month. In 2 months, those picks may be extremely valuable.
best case scenario for the kings pick is probably the 9th best lotto odds.  A lot of competition in the West will make it difficult for them to make the playoffs.

Still very annoying to see them winning so much.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 13, 2018, 02:35:07 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning

lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak.  Kinda a shame.  Not much value in picks in those range.  G-League roster could be lit, tho.

I legit love this post man. Glad to have you back. Tp
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: celticsclay on December 13, 2018, 03:27:38 AM
For reference. We still have best odds to win east per
Vegas. Toronto is second. Bucks are third and 76ers are 4th. This is per sportsbook, one of the biggest sites. I feel it is a bit silly to call Philly the favorites right now, both given those odds and the fact that Toronto has curb stomped them and the warriors so far. That being said larbrd is incredible how
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 13, 2018, 05:19:55 AM
For reference. We still have best odds to win east per
Vegas. Toronto is second. Bucks are third and 76ers are 4th. This is per sportsbook, one of the biggest sites. I feel it is a bit silly to call Philly the favorites right now, both given those odds and the fact that Toronto has curb stomped them and the warriors so far. That being said larbrd is incredible how
lol clay.  I missed you.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on December 13, 2018, 05:29:44 AM
We are going to thrash the league this year when playoffs come.

We have just started to heat up, we still have a lot of room to grow and we have the same number of loses as GSW (finals HC here we come!), Philly, and just one more than "uber-hot all fascinating" Bucks.

Media, the majority of fans, they never learn. You don't peak in November, as you won't be able to sustain it. You try to peak after the all-star break, March. Then you hopefully keep it for the next 2/3 months.

We know.
But we are the Celtics afterall.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Redz on December 13, 2018, 07:17:30 AM
Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.

All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight)  ;D

Shaping up to be a great night for us c.f.
Kings are winning

My dvr was twitchy and simple miscellaneous moments throughout the game.  Besides that I'd say I had an average to slightly above average night.  Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bopna on December 13, 2018, 09:30:47 PM
I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.

If Durant or Curry get hurt theyíre done. They have ZERO depth.

Is it the Warriors losing it or is the Raptors are really just that good?.. didn't see the game but to dust them Warriors who were actually complete by a Kawhi-less Craptors, then something musthave happened to one or the other.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 13, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
Clippers down 15 in third. A loss would be their 5th in 7 games. Tracking downward and helping our pick.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: hpantazo on December 13, 2018, 10:36:19 PM
Clippers down 15 in third. A loss would be their 5th in 7 games. Tracking downward and helping our pick.

They got slammed by the Spurs. Down by 30 now in the 4th.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on December 13, 2018, 10:45:39 PM
Clippers down 15 in third. A loss would be their 5th in 7 games. Tracking downward and helping our pick.

As long as the C's get that pick it's a win. Don't need them sliding back into the lottery which I can see happening.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 13, 2018, 11:10:09 PM
Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size.  Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.

So capable of blowing by his defender from the corner, just not strong enough to keep the guy on his hip and finish steong at the rim.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 13, 2018, 11:15:14 PM
Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size.  Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.

He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 13, 2018, 11:20:16 PM
Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size.  Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.

He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.

Probably true.  It seems judgment was never his strong suit.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 13, 2018, 11:27:16 PM
Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size.  Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.

He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.

Probably true.  It seems judgment was never his strong suit.

I bet Jackson and Ryan McDonough thought it was cute sending Celtics staff and management on a 14 hour round trip flight for nothing but Danny Angie always has the last laugh....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 13, 2018, 11:43:23 PM
Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size.  Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.

He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.

Probably true.  It seems judgment was never his strong suit.

I bet Jackson and Ryan McDonough thought it was cute sending Celtics staff and management on a 14 hour round trip flight for nothing but Danny Angie always has the last laugh....

He said it was a miscommunication/scheduling error by Armstrong.  I'm not sure it was that devious, clearly wouldn't do him any favors.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: liam on December 14, 2018, 12:55:07 AM
Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size.  Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.

He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.

Probably true.  It seems judgment was never his strong suit.

I bet Jackson and Ryan McDonough thought it was cute sending Celtics staff and management on a 14 hour round trip flight for nothing but Danny Angie always has the last laugh....

He said it was a miscommunication/scheduling error by Armstrong.  I'm not sure it was that devious, clearly wouldn't do him any favors.

https://clutchpoints.com/suns-gm-ryan-mcdonough-claims-he-colluded-with-josh-jackson-about-not-working-out-for-celtics/
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: JSD on December 14, 2018, 01:03:58 AM
Dallas could not put the balloon the ocean from 3 tonight.


Another solid game by Doncic
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 14, 2018, 06:58:45 PM
Based on point differential the worst 10 teams in the NBA right now are:

From the Eastern Conference

Detroit Pistons
Miami Heat
Brooklyn Nets
Orlando Magic
Washington Wizards
New York Knicks
Cleveland Cavaliers
Atlanta Hawks
Chicago Bulls

From the Western Conference

Phoenix Suns
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 14, 2018, 07:04:17 PM
There are exactly 16 teams who have a positive point differential, which coincidentally is equal to the number of playoff teams. However that includes only 6 teams from the East to 10 from the West.

From the Eastern Conference

Milwaukee Bucks
Toronto Raptors
Boston Celtics
Indiana Pacers
Charlotte Hornets
Philadelphia 76ers

From the Western Conference

Oklahoma City Thunder
Denver Nuggets
Golden State Warriors
New Orleans Pelicans
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Lakers
Portland Trail Blazers
Memphis Grizzlies
LA Clippers
Utah Jazz
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Phantom255x on December 14, 2018, 07:30:40 PM
As long as the Celtics take care of business tonight, they will move up in the standings, or at least join a few tied teams in the 2-4 range of the East. Pacers vs. Sixers tonight, so Celtics will benefit in some way  ;D

Unfortunately don't see CLE upsetting MIL tonight. Blazers could beat Raptors but doubt it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: nickagneta on December 15, 2018, 12:44:40 AM
Well, for all those worrisome Celtics fans that thought just because the Raptors beat the Warriors in Golden State without Kawhi Leonard that Toronto was such a monster team.....the lost in Portland tonight and are now just 2 games in the loss column ahead of Boston. And it isn't even Xmas yet.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: matteo on December 15, 2018, 12:45:45 AM
Well, for all those worrisome Celtics fans that thought just because the Raptors beat the Warriors in Golden State without Kawhi Leonard that Toronto was such a monster team.....the lost in Portland tonight and are now just 2 games in the loss column ahead of Boston. And it isn't even Xmas yet.

and denver up next!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticSooner on December 15, 2018, 12:50:31 AM
Well, for all those worrisome Celtics fans that thought just because the Raptors beat the Warriors in Golden State without Kawhi Leonard that Toronto was such a monster team.....the lost in Portland tonight and are now just 2 games in the loss column ahead of Boston. And it isn't even Xmas yet.

They play better team ball without Kawhi.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: bdm860 on December 15, 2018, 12:58:47 AM
Celtics win
Raptors lose
Sixers lose
Kings lose
Grizzlies lose

Today was a good day.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on December 15, 2018, 01:17:09 AM
Celtics win
Raptors lose
Sixers lose
Kings lose
Grizzlies lose

Today was a good day.
also:

Blazers, heat, nets, and knicks all won which make these teams closer to having a better record than the Kings.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Big333223 on December 15, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Of the 18 teams that played a game last night, only 2 scored fewer than 100 points. The Grizzlies scored 97 and the Thunder scored 98. Eight teams scored more than 120.

What a year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 15, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
Minnesota lost to Phoenix
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on December 17, 2018, 08:28:28 AM
I finally remembered who Westbrook reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evwkX8-AKd8

Happy holidays folks!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 17, 2018, 09:50:09 PM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 18, 2018, 01:33:25 AM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.

Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on December 18, 2018, 02:44:59 AM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.

Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: RockinRyA on December 18, 2018, 05:17:28 AM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.

Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.

What kind of reasoning is this?

Excuse me, just because you can, it should be allowed despite being against the rules. smh
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: ederson on December 18, 2018, 05:46:29 AM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.



Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.


I agree with RockinRyA... Shaq could push everyone out of the court .... Should he have been allowed to do so ?

I won't use the travelling to lower Harden's ability , he is an unstoppable scorer but a rule is a rule. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: Androslav on December 18, 2018, 05:56:30 AM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.



Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.


I agree with RockinRyA... Shaq could push everyone out of the court .... Should he have been allowed to do so ?

I won't use the travelling to lower Harden's ability , he is an unstoppable scorer but a rule is a rule.
All superstars get their calls. It is engraved in the game of this league.
MJ, Kobe, D.Wade, Shaq...
Now its Giannis, just remember the playoffs vs us. He was trampling over Semi until refs finally watched the tape between game 3-4.
But occasionally refs miss things and players with high usage, by the sheer number of possessions they create, get more of these calls. More tries, more calls.
Also, some guys are hard to officiate. Shaq, Lebron come to mind as they are so strong. Nowadays, Embiid is in this category too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2018 - 2019
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 18, 2018, 08:00:11 AM
James Harden going OFF....

Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...

He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.



Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.


I agree with RockinRyA... Shaq could push everyone out of the court .... Should he have been allowed to do so ?

I won't use the travelling to lower Harden's ability , he is an unstoppable scorer but a rule is a rule.
All superstars get their calls. It is engraved in the game of this league.
MJ, Kobe, D.Wade, Shaq...
Now its Giannis, just remember the playoffs vs us. He was trampling over Semi until refs finally watched the tape between game 3-4.
But occasionally refs miss things and players with high usage, by the sheer number of possessions they create, get more of these calls. More tries, more calls.
Also, some guys are hard to officiate. Shaq, Lebron come to mind as they are so strong. Nowadays, Embiid is in this category too.

There is nothing hard about noticing a guy hop around the arc.

Plenty others have footwork and donít do what he does as consistently as he does it. He could be a ballerina, itís still very obvious to anyone watching him play.

You can justify/support it all you want, doesnít make it acceptable (to most, apparently).