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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Moranis on June 18, 2018, 10:13:47 PM
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Should be interesting to see what they do up north and of they make any moves.
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I don’t see anyone wanting to trade a pick for their overpaid underachievers
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Honestly don't see any teams in the Top-5 trading it for Lowry or DeRozan.
That said, I could see any of Chicago, Orlando, NYK or Cleveland trading the pick + some salary for DeRozan. Like if CLE is told Lebron will stay if they add a star guard, they'd explore this. Or maybe NYK willing to trade #9 + Ntilikina in package for DeRozan/Lowry (they are desperate for stars and hoping for more revenue via playoff experiences and more national spotlight).
If PHI don't feel they can land a Lebron or George, maybe later on they flip their 10th pick + players for Lowry/DeRozan.
I think it's unlikely still but not an impossible scenario.
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I could see Memphis being interested, assuming they want to return to the playoffs
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Raptors are close to going young....
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Ibaka, Derozan
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Parsons, Green, McLemore, Davis, 4th overall pick
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I can see Cleveland trading the #8 and salary for either Lowry or DeRozan to convince Lebron to come back for another run at a title. That is if Toronto has decided they can't go any farther with their crew and are going to blow it up.
Not sure I see Toronto being ready to blow it up after their 59 win season. But can see Cleveland shopping the 8th pick for a star to add to Lebron. Of course, that's what they should have been doing at the deadline instead of trading for role players on bad contracts.
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Probably won’t happen before the draft, as Philly has free agent ambitions, but I could see a trade based around Lowry for the number 10 pick if Toronto blows it up. That’d be good value for Toronto, and I like Lowry as a vet presence and good fit with the Philly roster.
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I can see Cleveland trading the #8 and salary for either Lowry or DeRozan to convince Lebron to come back for another run at a title. That is if Toronto has decided they can't go any farther with their crew and are going to blow it up.
Not sure I see Toronto being ready to blow it up after their 59 win season. But can see Cleveland shopping the 8th pick for a star to add to Lebron. Of course, that's what they should have been doing at the deadline instead of trading for role players on bad contracts.
That's an interesting idea, and people on the Twitter ;D were joking after the "series" between the Cavs and the Raptors that Derozan should go to Cleveland, lol, so seeing that actually happen would be pretty funny, imo.
My only question centers around as to who Toronto is possibly targeting, because if they're going to deal their franchise players, surely they would hope to get a potential star via the draft as a return, right? My gut says that Michael Porter Jr. guy, but I honestly have no idea :-\.
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Probably won’t happen before the draft, as Philly has free agent ambitions, but I could see a trade based around Lowry for the number 10 pick if Toronto blows it up. That’d be good value for Toronto, and I like Lowry as a vet presence and good fit with the Philly roster.
Definitely would not do that if I was the Sixers. The Sixers have an opportunity to sign a top level free agent this offseason or next. They shouldn't waste that opportunity on a player like Lowry who would not make them a contender.
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I can see Cleveland trading the #8 and salary for either Lowry or DeRozan to convince Lebron to come back for another run at a title. That is if Toronto has decided they can't go any farther with their crew and are going to blow it up.
Not sure I see Toronto being ready to blow it up after their 59 win season. But can see Cleveland shopping the 8th pick for a star to add to Lebron. Of course, that's what they should have been doing at the deadline instead of trading for role players on bad contracts.
That's an interesting idea, and people on the Twitter ;D were joking after the "series" between the Cavs and the Raptors that Derozan should go to Cleveland, lol, so seeing that actually happen would be pretty funny, imo.
My only question centers around as to who Toronto is possibly targeting, because if they're going to deal their franchise players, surely they would hope to get a potential star via the draft as a return, right? My gut says that Michael Porter Jr. guy, but I honestly have no idea :-\.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander who is from Ontario.
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/report-toronto-raptors-trying-trade-top-10-pick-nba-draft-223454903.html
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Could open up a 3 team trade with Spurs and Knicks
Kawhi to Knicks
DeRozan + Frank to Spurs
9th pick + filler to Raptors
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Probably won’t happen before the draft, as Philly has free agent ambitions, but I could see a trade based around Lowry for the number 10 pick if Toronto blows it up. That’d be good value for Toronto, and I like Lowry as a vet presence and good fit with the Philly roster.
There is a lot of chatter around Philly doing a trade with Memphis themselves. I think their front office may come to the realization that Dallas and other teams have gone through over the years, just cause you have max free agent space, doesn't mean you end up with a max player.
Related the odds of Lebron Landing in Philly are now down to 10:1 along with Rockets. Only teams given a chance are Lakers at very very very favorites and Cleveland given a punchers chance.
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Could open up a 3 team trade with Spurs and Knicks
Kawhi to Knicks
DeRozan + Frank to Spurs
9th pick + filler to Raptors
I’m fine with that.
Raptors get worse.
Knicks get better but still aren’t great. I think Kawhi is arguably top-3 but he’s not going to carry a terrible team (and franchise) into contenders. He may not even be as explosive as Davis, who seems capable of putting up 50 points or 20 rebounds on any given night. He’s just as capable defensively as Kawhi imo and still they weren’t a great team last season (despite losing Boogie and still sweeping the Blazers).
Good long-term move for the Knicks but probably best case scenario for us right now.
Spurs Get an all-star and pretty good prospect, they could do worse.
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Raptors are obsessed with Shai Alexander. Local kid
Surprised they would be willing to trade even Derozan to draft him (per rumor)
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Imagine if Cavs and Raptors make a mega deal
Raptors: Love, 8th Pick (maybe even Tristant Thompson)
Cavs: Derozan, Lowry
In order to try to make Lebron happy
That would be a loaded team
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Imagine if Cavs and Raptors make a mega deal
Raptors: Love, 8th Pick (maybe even Tristant Thompson)
Cavs: Derozan, Lowry
In order to try to make Lebron happy
That would be a loaded team
lebron isn’t happy in Cleveland so that doesn’t fix it. The only way to make lebron happy is letting him go to La
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Imagine if Cavs and Raptors make a mega deal
Raptors: Love, 8th Pick (maybe even Tristant Thompson)
Cavs: Derozan, Lowry
In order to try to make Lebron happy
That would be a loaded team
lebron isn’t happy in Cleveland so that doesn’t fix it. The only way to make lebron happy is letting him go to La
Lets see. Wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt leave either
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Probably won’t happen before the draft, as Philly has free agent ambitions, but I could see a trade based around Lowry for the number 10 pick if Toronto blows it up. That’d be good value for Toronto, and I like Lowry as a vet presence and good fit with the Philly roster.
Definitely would not do that if I was the Sixers. The Sixers have an opportunity to sign a top level free agent this offseason or next. They shouldn't waste that opportunity on a player like Lowry who would not make them a contender.
Yeah, as I said they should try free agency before making a move like that, but I could see something like that happening if Philly strikes out in free agency and Toronto likes who they took at 10. Would you not do that deal if they strike out in free agency? I like Lowry’s fit and vet presence in that lineup.
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I can see Cleveland trading the #8 and salary for either Lowry or DeRozan to convince Lebron to come back for another run at a title. That is if Toronto has decided they can't go any farther with their crew and are going to blow it up.
Not sure I see Toronto being ready to blow it up after their 59 win season. But can see Cleveland shopping the 8th pick for a star to add to Lebron. Of course, that's what they should have been doing at the deadline instead of trading for role players on bad contracts.
That's an interesting idea, and people on the Twitter ;D were joking after the "series" between the Cavs and the Raptors that Derozan should go to Cleveland, lol, so seeing that actually happen would be pretty funny, imo.
My only question centers around as to who Toronto is possibly targeting, because if they're going to deal their franchise players, surely they would hope to get a potential star via the draft as a return, right? My gut says that Michael Porter Jr. guy, but I honestly have no idea :-\.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander who is from Ontario.
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/report-toronto-raptors-trying-trade-top-10-pick-nba-draft-223454903.html
Ah, thanks - TP :).
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Probably won’t happen before the draft, as Philly has free agent ambitions, but I could see a trade based around Lowry for the number 10 pick if Toronto blows it up. That’d be good value for Toronto, and I like Lowry as a vet presence and good fit with the Philly roster.
Definitely would not do that if I was the Sixers. The Sixers have an opportunity to sign a top level free agent this offseason or next. They shouldn't waste that opportunity on a player like Lowry who would not make them a contender.
Yeah, as I said they should try free agency before making a move like that, but I could see something like that happening if Philly strikes out in free agency and Toronto likes who they took at 10. Would you not do that deal if they strike out in free agency? I like Lowry’s fit and vet presence in that lineup.
Absolutely not. Lowry is too old and doesn't really move the needle for them. He's not going to make them a champioship contender. They aren't in a use their cap space or lose it situation. They can sign free agents (Redick, etc) to 1 year deals again and have Max cap space next offseason. That should give them a much better idea on what they are going to get out of Fultz which will affect who they target in free agency.
Personally I'd have Butler at the top of the list next offseason. Think he'd be a great fit for Phiily. He'll probably be glad to get out of Minny so Thibs can't run him into the ground anymore and he won't have to deal with Wiggins and Towns poor defense.