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Title: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: triboy16f on May 28, 2018, 01:45:14 AM
Pre injury version.

Only 20 years old. Still skinny, but already amazing. Loves the 4th quarter. Cant wait to see how much better he will be with added 15 pounds of mass

The one thing CBS didnt do correct tonight is ride the hot hand, continously feed Tatum the ball and let him go ISO with 7 min left
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: keevsnick on May 28, 2018, 01:47:28 AM
I think Jaylen is a closer comp for Paul Geroge. High end defensive player best as a second option on offense who scores 21-24. Tatum can be a better offensive player than George.

Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: triboy16f on May 28, 2018, 01:50:20 AM
I think Jaylen is a closer comp for Paul Geroge. High end defensive player best as a second option on offense who scores 21-24. Tatum can be a better offensive player than George.

Jaylen is not reliable in the 4th quarter. And plays a different game. Is not a natural shooter

Also is like 6'6 vs George/Tatum who are closer to 6'9. 
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: gouki88 on May 28, 2018, 01:55:14 AM
I disagree. Even pre-injury PG never averaged over 22ppg, and post injury has maxed out at 23.7. I reckon Tatum will be a better scorer than that, as his in-between game and 3 point shot are at a crazy level for a rookie.

I think Jaylen is a closer comp for Paul Geroge. High end defensive player best as a second option on offense who scores 21-24. Tatum can be a better offensive player than George.

Jaylen is not reliable in the 4th quarter. And plays a different game. Is not a natural shooter

Also is like 6'6 vs George/Tatum who are closer to 6'9. 
PG isn't the most reliable guy either. He choked pretty hard this playoffs. JB is a much better comparison for PG
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Somebody on May 28, 2018, 01:57:57 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: triboy16f on May 28, 2018, 02:06:36 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.

Jaylen to Butler comparison is decent

Dont see Tatum to KD comparisons. KD is 7'0 with a 7'6 wingspan freak that is nearly unstoppable when dialed in

Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: iadera on May 28, 2018, 02:07:42 AM
It's definitively Brown! If we need to choose someone to be traded from duo Tatum/Brown, it has to be Brown. Tatum is too precious...
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: triboy16f on May 28, 2018, 02:08:50 AM
People already forgot how clutch George was with Indy and gave Lebron all he could handle in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: triboy16f on May 28, 2018, 02:09:28 AM
It's definitively Brown! If we need to choose someone to be traded from duo Tatum/Brown, it has to be Brown. Tatum is too precious...

After tonight , I couldnt agree more
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: CelticsElite on May 28, 2018, 02:11:37 AM
It's definitively Brown! If we need to choose someone to be traded from duo Tatum/Brown, it has to be Brown. Tatum is too precious...
their production together is too valuable to trade. Brown has a nice shot he just Had a bad gamw
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Somebody on May 28, 2018, 02:14:59 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.

Jaylen to Butler comparison is decent

Dont see Tatum to KD comparisons. KD is 7'0 with a 7'6 wingspan freak that is nearly unstoppable when dialed in
Hence I said KD/Pierce hybrid. Also Tatum might grow a bit, and rn he's 6'9 or so with a really long wingspan. Obviously he'll likely never be KD type of long but it's not impossible to say that he'll be something like 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. That's still hella long lol.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: gouki88 on May 28, 2018, 02:17:45 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.

Jaylen to Butler comparison is decent

Dont see Tatum to KD comparisons. KD is 7'0 with a 7'6 wingspan freak that is nearly unstoppable when dialed in
Hence I said KD/Pierce hybrid. Also Tatum might grow a bit, and rn he's 6'9 or so with a really long wingspan. Obviously he'll likely never be KD type of long but it's not impossible to say that he'll be something like 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. That's still hella long lol.
And they play similarly. Assassins from range, good handles, efficient from everywhere. Tatum tries to create more separation than KD, who simply just rises up defended or not
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Somebody on May 28, 2018, 02:19:55 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.

Jaylen to Butler comparison is decent

Dont see Tatum to KD comparisons. KD is 7'0 with a 7'6 wingspan freak that is nearly unstoppable when dialed in
Hence I said KD/Pierce hybrid. Also Tatum might grow a bit, and rn he's 6'9 or so with a really long wingspan. Obviously he'll likely never be KD type of long but it's not impossible to say that he'll be something like 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. That's still hella long lol.
And they play similarly. Assassins from range, good handles, efficient from everywhere. Tatum tries to create more separation than KD, who simply just rises up defended or not
Yeah because KD's extra inches is just that OP. And that's why I linked Tatum to Pierce as well, he creates separation a bit like Pierce.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: gouki88 on May 28, 2018, 02:21:26 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.

Jaylen to Butler comparison is decent

Dont see Tatum to KD comparisons. KD is 7'0 with a 7'6 wingspan freak that is nearly unstoppable when dialed in
Hence I said KD/Pierce hybrid. Also Tatum might grow a bit, and rn he's 6'9 or so with a really long wingspan. Obviously he'll likely never be KD type of long but it's not impossible to say that he'll be something like 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. That's still hella long lol.
And they play similarly. Assassins from range, good handles, efficient from everywhere. Tatum tries to create more separation than KD, who simply just rises up defended or not
Yeah because KD's extra inches is just that OP. And that's why I linked Tatum to Pierce as well, he creates separation a bit like Pierce.
Yeah, it really is unfair when you can casually shoot over Trevor Ariza like he's not even there.

Tatum is Pierce-like in the way he uses his body
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Gari on May 28, 2018, 02:23:51 AM
I think Jaylen is a closer comp for Paul Geroge. High end defensive player best as a second option on offense who scores 21-24. Tatum can be a better offensive player than George.



Brown doesn't have the handles PG has.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Somebody on May 28, 2018, 02:24:37 AM
Nah-Tatum will be a KD/Pierce hybrid while Jaylen will be a Butler/Kawhi hybrid.

Jaylen to Butler comparison is decent

Dont see Tatum to KD comparisons. KD is 7'0 with a 7'6 wingspan freak that is nearly unstoppable when dialed in
Hence I said KD/Pierce hybrid. Also Tatum might grow a bit, and rn he's 6'9 or so with a really long wingspan. Obviously he'll likely never be KD type of long but it's not impossible to say that he'll be something like 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. That's still hella long lol.
And they play similarly. Assassins from range, good handles, efficient from everywhere. Tatum tries to create more separation than KD, who simply just rises up defended or not
Yeah because KD's extra inches is just that OP. And that's why I linked Tatum to Pierce as well, he creates separation a bit like Pierce.
Yeah, it really is unfair when you can casually shoot over Trevor Ariza like he's not even there.

Tatum is Pierce-like in the way he uses his body
Yeah. Hope he and Jaylen develop tbh and make a leap next year, if Jaylen's work ethic keeps up I can see him eventually working his way into a Kobe/Nique hybrid.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Androslav on May 28, 2018, 02:33:46 AM
I have been on it for a while.
Floor - Melo
Ceiling - KD
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on May 28, 2018, 03:19:33 AM
I hope he's a lot better than Paul Georgeóthat guy's just a glorified complementary player.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 28, 2018, 03:39:51 AM
Tatum has the potential to be much better than PG on offense IMO
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Stig on May 28, 2018, 03:49:42 AM
I agree with most that JB is a better comparison to PG, or Jimmy Butler, offensively Tatumís talent is on another level. Brown needs to make big stride on his offence, otherwise heís more likely turn into Igadala
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: mr. dee on May 28, 2018, 04:15:13 AM
Brown have alot of work to do in the off season. I expect him to only get better, especially after that painful defeat.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Neurotic Guy on May 28, 2018, 04:28:20 AM
Brown have alot of work to do in the off season. I expect him to only get better, especially after that painful defeat.

Not that I think it really would make much of a difference in terms of off-season inspiration , but to lose a close series in the ECF rather than get demoralized in a 4-game drubbing in the Finals (which was probable), may produce a slightly better mindset over the next 4 months.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: playdream on May 28, 2018, 05:55:23 AM
I'm fine with we losing, but not fine with this epic choke job, Brown should be ashamed about himself for tonight's performance , there is no BUTs.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: mr. dee on May 28, 2018, 06:08:35 AM
I'm fine with we losing, but not fine with this epic choke job, Brown should be ashamed about himself for tonight's performance , there is no BUTs.

- Kobe had couple of choke jobs against the Jazz in both 98 and 99 season
- Kawhi choked on a championship clinching free throw
- Lebron himself have some epic chokejobs

Jaylen will grow stronger. He's a competitor.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: jambr380 on May 28, 2018, 06:58:30 AM
I'm fine with we losing, but not fine with this epic choke job, Brown should be ashamed about himself for tonight's performance , there is no BUTs.

- Kobe had couple of choke jobs against the Jazz in both 98 and 99 season
- Kawhi choked on a championship clinching free throw
- Lebron himself have some epic chokejobs

Jaylen will grow stronger. He's a competitor.

He also came up huge in game 6 which was also a possible close-out job.

As for the George-Tatum comparison, I don't know. Isn't George known as the guy who can't perform with the game on the line? Literally the first game we ever saw Tatum in a Cs uniform (summer league), he hit a game winning shot at the buzzer. George is an All-NBA type player, though, and that is a great place for Tatum to start.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Fafnir on May 28, 2018, 07:14:46 AM
Similar in body type, but Tatum has a better offensive profile as a number one option than George.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: Casperian on May 28, 2018, 07:28:12 AM
He's useless if you want to win a championship.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum is the next Paul George
Post by: dreamgreen on May 28, 2018, 07:46:36 AM
He's better than PG offensively, heading into KD area IMO. He needs to increase his strength by 20-30% in the off season and he will be a beast!

I think the Brown - Butler comparison is a fair one, technically he is ahead of where Butler was at this point in their careers.