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Title: Greg Monroe
Post by: Chris22 on March 03, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
He's better than I thought.
Houston could not stop him.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Phantom255x on March 03, 2018, 11:42:24 PM
I think Monroe could really help us in the playoffs in trying to "neutralize" the likes of Embiid, Whiteside, etc. especially in the early rounds.

Just give him some time to truly gel with this team and to understand his role better.

He's looked real good lately though, and was fantastic tonight.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: footey on March 04, 2018, 12:11:53 AM
Stevens starting to figure out how to use him.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: MJohnnyboy on March 04, 2018, 12:14:46 AM
The bench looks like its turned a corner.

And Monroe just might be at the center of it.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: CelticsElite on March 04, 2018, 12:18:19 AM
The smart-Monroe pick and roll works nicely


 Also like Morris with Monroe the size of our bench is overwhelming for some teams like the rockets apparently
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: gouki88 on March 04, 2018, 12:56:58 AM
If only he'd been played at the end of the game, lol
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Chris22 on March 04, 2018, 01:03:15 AM
If only he'd been played at the end of the game, lol

Exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: gouki88 on March 04, 2018, 01:08:21 AM
If only he'd been played at the end of the game, lol

Exactly what I was thinking.
At least he seems to really be getting the offence now. Using him at the top of the key has proven to work pretty well, both with him driving or his passing (especially the one to Rozier).
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Somebody on March 04, 2018, 01:31:15 AM
Horford was trash compared to Monroe this game, if we played him down the stretch we would've won.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Birdman on March 04, 2018, 08:17:52 AM
He's a very good player..I said that all along....hopefully they resign him
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: bopna on March 04, 2018, 08:30:43 AM
He's better than I thought.
Houston could not stop him.

Al horford  missed a lot of his usually makeable shots
Monroe was quite a revelation and honestly could be like this... Hopefullly going forward.

Im not surewe have enough to catvh theRaptors now but we need for them to lose a couple in the next fewgames to catch up.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 04, 2018, 08:33:59 AM
He's better than I thought.
Houston could not stop him.

Al horford  missed a lot of his usually makeable shots
Monroe was quite a revelation and honestly could be like this... Hopefullly going forward.

Im not surewe have enough to catvh theRaptors now but we need for them to lose a couple in the next fewgames to catch up.

Toronto will not lose home vs ATL. Then they will beat the dead Pistons on the road. Only chance of a loss is vs HOU at home but they rarely lose at home. Then after HOU they play the Knicks - put a W for them in that game.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: jambr380 on March 04, 2018, 09:06:29 AM
He's better than I thought.
Houston could not stop him.

Al horford  missed a lot of his usually makeable shots
Monroe was quite a revelation and honestly could be like this... Hopefullly going forward.

Im not surewe have enough to catvh theRaptors now but we need for them to lose a couple in the next fewgames to catch up.

At this point, we are better off hoping for Washington or [somehow] Indy to pass Cleveland and push them to 4th. Both teams only have one more loss than CLE.

As for Monroe, I am happy for him that he performed so well. He chose to come to the Cs in hopes of productive minutes and a lengthy playoff run. Obviously we can't expect the type of game he gave us last night every game, but he should really help in the playoffs when the game slows down on offense and also be able to gobble up lots of rebounds.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: csfansince60s on March 04, 2018, 10:47:02 AM
The smart-Monroe pick and roll works nicely


 Also like Morris with Monroe the size of our bench is overwhelming for some teams like the rockets apparently

TP

That lineup of Moose/ Morris/ Tatum/Smart/Rozier was pretty impressive.

Hope CBS goes with that a bit more. Seems like he hit on something.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: iadera on March 04, 2018, 10:58:14 AM
I realy cannot understand how Stevens missed with benching Monroe in closing minutes.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: KGs Knee on March 04, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
Monroe had a really good game last night, which was encouraging.

Hopefully this is something he can build on and continue, and wasn't just a one game blip.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 04, 2018, 11:08:47 AM
Monroe is a beast!

Finally have someone that can punish people in the block. He's also a great passer. He's got flaws but I think it was Jeff Van Gundy that said it last night, if you can play defense against the Rockets you can play against anybody.

Greg showed out.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Eddie20 on March 04, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
Monroe had a really good game last night, which was encouraging.

Hopefully this is something he can build on and continue, and wasn't just a one game blip.

He had 18 points yesterday, but he also had 14 points the game before.

Definitely a premature thread calling him a liability.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Rosco917 on March 04, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
When he's paired with Smart and Theis he'll be very effective. Theis will help him on defense.

I agree...the C's are figuring out how to use him best.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: RJ87 on March 04, 2018, 11:43:25 AM
I like the chemistry he's building with Smart and Morris in particular. You can see he's starting to get more comfortable with the team, but also Brad is figuring out how to use him more. Greg's a great passer, so if you have guys that can move without the ball on the floor with him, you can really run offense through him on the second unit. Hopefully the team continues to get him touches in the post and doesn't just limit him to setting screens in the pick and roll.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Roy H. on March 04, 2018, 12:10:40 PM
Iíd love to see Monroe after a full training camp to integrate him.

Horford / Theis
Tatum / Monroe
Hayward / Morris
Brown / Smart
Kyrie / Rozier

Iíd like one scorer for the bench, but thatís a really exciting team.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: KGs Knee on March 04, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
Monroe had a really good game last night, which was encouraging.

Hopefully this is something he can build on and continue, and wasn't just a one game blip.

He had 18 points yesterday, but he also had 14 points the game before.

Definitely a premature thread calling him a liability.

Well, for the record, I didn't start that thread and the only thing I've said about Monroe up until this point was that he seemed to be a bit of a square peg to the Celtics round hole.

But it seems that Stevens is figuring out to use a player like Moose.  Clearly he's not Stevens preferred type of big, and is taking some time adapting his sets to include a player of Monroe's abilities.  Hopefully last night was a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: More Banners on March 04, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
Iíd love to see Monroe after a full training camp to integrate him.

Horford / Theis
Tatum / Monroe
Hayward / Morris
Brown / Smart
Kyrie / Rozier

Iíd like one scorer for the bench, but thatís a really exciting team.

Well there's the MLE next year as a possibility to get better at one of the bench positions, but Morris, Monroe, and Rozier make a fairly portent 2nd unit scoring punch.

Perhaps who sits in a tightened playoff rotation is just a matter of matchups though, since none of those are necessarily standouts.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: playdream on March 04, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
I want to keep Monroe over Baynes/Rozier/Morris in that order , it's all about matchup in playoffs and Monroe can attack the best teams weakest point(Warrior/Rocket/Cavs), Smart for the same reason on defense end, even for those AGGs/Embiids Monroe+AL matchs up better than Baynes+AL, Horford's range really covers his shooting inability to play the inside out game
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 04, 2018, 04:40:32 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.

 
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: jambr380 on March 04, 2018, 05:45:00 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.

Of course we would have the ability to use the taxpayers MLE which will be slightly under $6M, but that is the best we will be able to do. Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

Keeping Monroe at or below the MLE this off-season might be pretty important in terms of our big man depth in the future. If he'll stay for $6M (125% of his current salary), we would still have the ability to use the MLE if Smart walks. If Smart stays and we use the MLE, we are going to be cutting it VERY close to the luxury tax which Danny will surely try to avoid.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 04, 2018, 05:52:55 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.

Of course we would have the ability to use the taxpayers MLE which will be slightly under $6M, but that is the best we will be able to do. Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

Keeping Monroe at or below the MLE this off-season might be pretty important in terms of our big man depth in the future. If he'll stay for $6M (125% of his current salary), we would still have the ability to use the MLE if Smart walks. If Smart stays and we use the MLE, we are going to be cutting it VERY close to the luxury tax which Danny will surely try to avoid.

Thanks for info -- TP
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Roy H. on March 04, 2018, 06:06:18 PM
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Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

Or, Theis didnít want to commit to a three year deal.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: jambr380 on March 04, 2018, 06:21:32 PM
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Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

Or, Theis didnít want to commit to a three year deal.

I agree with that, but he possibly could have been convinced with a little more money. I know we were at the cap so maybe this just wasn't possible. Calling it a 'mistake' is probably too harsh, but I am sure DA would have liked the option of a 3rd year, especially in hindsight.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: Evantime34 on March 04, 2018, 07:00:16 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.


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Can you explain the part about Theis? I looked at a salaries page http://www.basketballinsiders.com/boston-celtics-team-salary/ that indicated he won't even be a free agent this summer. Is it wrong?

I really like Monroe but I think the team prefers Baynes. I doubt both are coming back next year.

The second unit has been very good since the break. Lineups with one big and Morris at the 4 are killng it. Using Monroe as such a big part of the offense really helped free everyone else up to get better shots. It's amazing that we almost beat the top team in the league with off nights from Al and Kyrie
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: KGs Knee on March 04, 2018, 09:01:57 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.

Of course we would have the ability to use the taxpayers MLE which will be slightly under $6M, but that is the best we will be able to do. Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

This is incorrect.

Thies was signed to a two year contract as a rookie free agent, thus will have Early Bird Right's at the end of his current contract, and will be an 'Arenas Rule' restricted free agent in 2019.

The Celtics can 100% keep Theis if they choose to.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: jambr380 on March 04, 2018, 09:24:56 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.

Of course we would have the ability to use the taxpayers MLE which will be slightly under $6M, but that is the best we will be able to do. Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

This is incorrect.

Thies was signed to a two year contract as a rookie free agent, thus will have Early Bird Right's at the end of his current contract, and will be an 'Arenas Rule' restricted free agent in 2019.

The Celtics can 100% keep Theis if they choose to.

We have a $1.3M option for Theis next year which we will of course pick-up, but this is the first I am hearing of being able to keep him 'at all costs.' I am aware of the Arenas rule and thought that really only applied to teams not losing their 2nd round draft picks due to other teams offering an outrageous contract. They are now basically limited to offering no more than the non-taxpayers MLE in year 1 in order to give the player's current team and option to match.

Since we signed Theis to a FA contract, I was under the assumption that his contract status would operate the same as any other FA signing after two years (Early Bird rights). I know that we can use the MLE, but are you saying we really hold the same rights as if we had drafted him?
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: KGs Knee on March 04, 2018, 09:31:47 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.

Of course we would have the ability to use the taxpayers MLE which will be slightly under $6M, but that is the best we will be able to do. Danny looks to have made a mistake not locking him in for 3 years which would give us full Bird rights.

This is incorrect.

Thies was signed to a two year contract as a rookie free agent, thus will have Early Bird Right's at the end of his current contract, and will be an 'Arenas Rule' restricted free agent in 2019.

The Celtics can 100% keep Theis if they choose to.

We have a $1.3M option for Theis next year which we will of course pick-up, but this is the first I am hearing of being able to keep him 'at all costs.' I am aware of the Arenas rule and thought that really only applied to teams not losing their 2nd round draft picks due to other teams offering an outrageous contract. They are now basically limited to offering no more than the non-taxpayers MLE in year 1 in order to give the player's current team and option to match.

Since we signed Theis to a FA contract, I was under the assumption that his contract status would operate the same as any other FA signing after two years (Early Bird rights). I know that we can use the MLE, but are you saying we really hold the same rights as if we had drafted him?

Yes, any player not taken in the first round of the draft is a restricted free agent for their first three years in the league.

Early Bird Right's allow a team to offer a free agent 175% of their previous contract or 105% of the previous season's 'average salary', whichever is greater, up to that player's maximum contract value.  And while technically the 'average salary' is usually slightly less than the non-taxpayer MLE, for the purposes of matching an offer sheet to an 'Arenas Rule' restricted free agent it doesn't matter, Early Bird Right's are sufficient.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: JBcat on March 05, 2018, 06:40:03 AM
Iíd love to have Monroe back next season as he brings a different dimension than our other bigs.

I love our bigs right now, but our long term prognosis is iffy.  Monroe and Baynes FAs the end of this year, Morris (I guess a swing as he plays the wing too) and Theis FAs the end of next season, and Horford is his early 30s 2 years from now.  Different than our wings and guards that I feel a lot better about for our future.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: vjcsmoke on March 07, 2018, 12:09:00 PM
A lot of people were down on Monroe early.  Now that he has had a few practices under his belt, and gotten into game shape we are seeing what he can truly offer the team.  Scoring in close, good passing, and top notch rebounding.  Even though he is not the most mobile big his size at a true 6'10 allows him to be an imposing presence as long as he stays in position.

Pairing Monroe with Theis or Horford or even Morris gives us proper defensive length on the interior.  Celtics overall size is going to be a problem in the postseason.  Even our 2nd unit is long and not an easy task to score upon.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: JHTruth on March 07, 2018, 12:24:56 PM
A lot of people were down on Monroe early.  Now that he has had a few practices under his belt, and gotten into game shape we are seeing what he can truly offer the team.  Scoring in close, good passing, and top notch rebounding.  Even though he is not the most mobile big his size at a true 6'10 allows him to be an imposing presence as long as he stays in position.

Pairing Monroe with Theis or Horford or even Morris gives us proper defensive length on the interior.  Celtics overall size is going to be a problem in the postseason.  Even our 2nd unit is long and not an easy task to score upon.

I think Monroe is the main reason we have improved so much recently just because he adds so much quality size to the team. Horford has grown a little soft frankly and Theis is a good option but not the massive presence Baynes and Monroe are. Just makes a huge difference on the team to have one of those guys in pretty much all game.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: JHTruth on March 07, 2018, 12:40:15 PM
I really like the Horford, Theis, Baynes, Monroe options at the 4/5.  I think Theis may turn out to be the keeper among the non-Horford group -- maybe DA can tie him up with an extension (any CBA restrictions on doing this?). 

I wonder if Danny values Baynes or Monroe more -- if I had to guess, I'd say he likes Baynes, but that may change over the next 2 months.  Either way, they may both be difficult to re-sign.  I love the idea that Danny can swing for the fences (Leonard or Davis) or can make smaller moves with his array of young assets.  Outside of Hayward, Brown/Tatum/Rozier remain the key group to watch for the kind of leap that gives the C's another top tier asset. I'd hate to lose Smart -- he will add so much to the roster next year. 

C's may be an awfully enticing place to land for a prized MLE guy, or a role-playing banner chaser.
 

I mentioned this in another thread, but the prospect of keeping Theis is dicey at best. Even though he is technically a rookie, he was actually only signed as a FA and we don't hold his rights. Since his salary next year is only for $1.38M, we would only be allowed to sign him to 175% of that amount which is $2.4M. While that would be awesome, it probably isn't likely.


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Can you explain the part about Theis? I looked at a salaries page http://www.basketballinsiders.com/boston-celtics-team-salary/ that indicated he won't even be a free agent this summer. Is it wrong?

I really like Monroe but I think the team prefers Baynes. I doubt both are coming back next year.

The second unit has been very good since the break. Lineups with one big and Morris at the 4 are killng it. Using Monroe as such a big part of the offense really helped free everyone else up to get better shots. It's amazing that we almost beat the top team in the league with off nights from Al and Kyrie

I'd take Monroe all day over Baynes if it came to that. He's simply a much better player. I think by the end of the playoffs the team will come to the same conclusion. Although I'd keep both if I could. Theis I can take or leave. I know Celtics Nation thinks he's Dirk 2.0, but frankly he's a dime a dozen type guy. 6'9" stretch bigs that can't even shoot the 3 that well are pretty common. Someone like Ersan could fill his role better.

Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 07, 2018, 03:56:20 PM
I'd like to retain all of our bigs unless we can find upgrades, they all bring something a little different and it's nice to be able to throw out a solid big for any situation we face.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: JBcat on March 07, 2018, 05:54:24 PM
Iíd love to have Monroe back next season as he brings a different dimension than our other bigs.

I love our bigs right now, but our long term prognosis is iffy.  Monroe and Baynes FAs the end of this year, Morris (I guess a swing as he plays the wing too) and Theis FAs the end of next season, and Horford is his early 30s 2 years from now.  Different than our wings and guards that I feel a lot better about for our future.

Just to add what I wrote here, and thinking about minutes distribution with Gordon coming back year.  If we trade away Morris for say some sort of future pick, Gordon can slide into his player time and picking up extra minutes elsewhere.  Iím hoping we can bring back both Monroe and Baynes next year.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: JHTruth on March 07, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
Iíd love to have Monroe back next season as he brings a different dimension than our other bigs.

I love our bigs right now, but our long term prognosis is iffy.  Monroe and Baynes FAs the end of this year, Morris (I guess a swing as he plays the wing too) and Theis FAs the end of next season, and Horford is his early 30s 2 years from now.  Different than our wings and guards that I feel a lot better about for our future.

Just to add what I wrote here, and thinking about minutes distribution with Gordon coming back year.  If we trade away Morris for say some sort of future pick, Gordon can slide into his player time and picking up extra minutes elsewhere.  Iím hoping we can bring back both Monroe and Baynes next year.

I think the FA market this summer is going to be tight after all the splurging as the cap went way up. Lots of teams running up against that tax. I'm thinking the best bet is to move Morris and take back as little $ as possible, resign Monroe, Baynes, and Smart and roll with this next year.

Irving/Rozier
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Tatum
Horford/Theis
Baynes/Monroe

with cheap bench fodder like Semi, Larkin, Yabu, Nader etc.

That will give any team in the league hell..
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: RodyTur10 on March 07, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Iíd love to have Monroe back next season as he brings a different dimension than our other bigs.

I love our bigs right now, but our long term prognosis is iffy.  Monroe and Baynes FAs the end of this year, Morris (I guess a swing as he plays the wing too) and Theis FAs the end of next season, and Horford is his early 30s 2 years from now.  Different than our wings and guards that I feel a lot better about for our future.

Just to add what I wrote here, and thinking about minutes distribution with Gordon coming back year.  If we trade away Morris for say some sort of future pick, Gordon can slide into his player time and picking up extra minutes elsewhere.  Iím hoping we can bring back both Monroe and Baynes next year.

I think the FA market this summer is going to be tight after all the splurging as the cap went way up. Lots of teams running up against that tax. I'm thinking the best bet is to move Morris and take back as little $ as possible, resign Monroe, Baynes, and Smart and roll with this next year.

Irving/Rozier
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Tatum
Horford/Theis
Baynes/Monroe

with cheap bench fodder like Semi, Larkin, Yabu, Nader etc.

That will give any team in the league hell..

TP. I like this and it's probably possible to keep this team together (unless Smart or Monroe have amazing playoff performances). And maybe in the summer of 2019 we could make a trade for Davis. With all these draft picks incoming we need to try to trade quantity for quality.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: More Banners on March 07, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
Iíd love to have Monroe back next season as he brings a different dimension than our other bigs.

I love our bigs right now, but our long term prognosis is iffy.  Monroe and Baynes FAs the end of this year, Morris (I guess a swing as he plays the wing too) and Theis FAs the end of next season, and Horford is his early 30s 2 years from now.  Different than our wings and guards that I feel a lot better about for our future.

Just to add what I wrote here, and thinking about minutes distribution with Gordon coming back year.  If we trade away Morris for say some sort of future pick, Gordon can slide into his player time and picking up extra minutes elsewhere.  Iím hoping we can bring back both Monroe and Baynes next year.

I think the FA market this summer is going to be tight after all the splurging as the cap went way up. Lots of teams running up against that tax. I'm thinking the best bet is to move Morris and take back as little $ as possible, resign Monroe, Baynes, and Smart and roll with this next year.

Irving/Rozier
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Tatum
Horford/Theis
Baynes/Monroe

with cheap bench fodder like Semi, Larkin, Yabu, Nader etc.

That will give any team in the league hell..

TP. I like this and it's probably possible to keep this team together (unless Smart or Monroe have amazing playoff performances). And maybe in the summer of 2019 we could make a trade for Davis. With all these draft picks incoming we need to try to trade quantity for quality.

Yes, TP. I hadn't thought of Morris as the goner; his contract to production value is pretty good.

The wildcard is Danny's ability to find scrappy guards that might take minutes if we lose Smart,

The addition of Monroe fills out and balances the rotation of bigs. I like it a lot, but Horford aside, there are some specialists that could be upgraded if opportunity presents. Monroe/Baynes are offense/defense, Morris scores, and maybe Theis has the most skills/fewest holes, but lacks the bulk of MonroeBaynes.

Danny's got to keep tweaking, but I like this group.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: tstorey_97 on March 07, 2018, 08:50:37 PM
NBA stats...last 7 games...Celtics bench:

#1 points/game
#1 rebounds game

Rest of the categories not so much, but we'll take these two.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: rondofan1255 on April 16, 2018, 02:25:48 PM
Good game coming up?  :)
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: footey on April 16, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
Trading Morris bad idea. Too valuable providing bench points. Also toughness fits team profile.

I think we keep either Baines or Monroe but not both. Baines probably better fit since either would be off bench and we will have plenty of bench scoring with Rozier and Morris. Plus Smart.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: footey on April 16, 2018, 02:38:42 PM
Also think Baines will develop 3 point shot in off season to complement spacing on 2 nd unit.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 05, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
Trading Morris bad idea. Too valuable providing bench points. Also toughness fits team profile.

I think we keep either Baines or Monroe but not both. Baines probably better fit since either would be off bench and we will have plenty of bench scoring with Rozier and Morris. Plus Smart.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: SparzWizard on May 05, 2018, 01:54:05 PM
Also think Baines will develop 3 point shot in off season to complement spacing on 2 nd unit.

If Baynes can shoot 3's consistently, the Celtics will be so dangerous on offense. Opposing teams will be lost trying to guard either Kyrie/Hayward/Tatum or Horford/Baynes who are all capable 3-point threats.

We need a nickname for the Brad Stevens offense like how there's a Triangle offense or a Princeton offense.
Title: Re: Greg Monroe
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 07, 2018, 11:52:41 PM
Too matchup dependent... basically Bobanís Clippers role as change of pace...