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Title: Predict the Entire Lottery
Post by: wiley on January 31, 2018, 06:45:43 PM
Edited May 20th.  (Forget the pairs thing....just predict the lottery)

This was my prediction way back....latest prediction on page 2.

Ayton
Bagley
Young
Porter
Doncic
Jaren Jackson
Bamba 
Sexton
Knox
Carter
Mik. Bridges
Mil. Bridges
Lonnie Walker
Gilgeous Alexander


enter as many times as you want and explain your changes...
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: gouki88 on January 31, 2018, 06:49:02 PM
Ayton - Bagley

Doncic - Porter

Young - Bamba

Jaren Jackson - Knox

Miles Bridges - Sexton

Carter - Williams

Mikal Bridges - Gilgeous Alexander
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on January 31, 2018, 07:10:37 PM
Doncic - Ayton
Young - Porter Jr.
Jackson Jr. - Bagley
Bamba - Carter
Mikal Bridges - Sexton
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: Fireworks_Boom! on February 01, 2018, 08:37:13 AM
Ayton/Bagley
Porter/Young
Doncic/Bamba

Order of each could flip flop. I see Doncic dropping a little with talent more visible playing out of their minds. Porter Jr. is a wild card. No one has seen him play a min in college ball yet. That’s a big leap of faith for a team so of the mix above, he could fall and he also could become the biggest steal if he does fall.

Bamba is starting to get some nasty in him. He could rise above Young by seasons end given his size.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: Fireworks_Boom! on February 01, 2018, 08:37:47 AM
Oh and something tells me Bagley is going to disappoint at the next level.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 01, 2018, 08:52:26 AM
Oh and something tells me Bagley is going to disappoint at the next level.
And would you care to tell us exactly what that something is?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: Monkhouse on February 01, 2018, 09:05:20 AM
Oh and something tells me Bagley is going to disappoint at the next level.
And would you care to tell us exactly what that something is?  Thank you.

If we get the 2nd pick and Bagley is still on board and we don't draft him, the Celtics will sorely regret that decision. I honestly believe Bagley will become a generational talent under Stevens.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: Androslav on February 01, 2018, 09:33:49 AM
There will never be a lottery in Paris.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: wiley on February 02, 2018, 12:09:28 PM
....if you're bored like me.  After the draft we can look back and see if any one got all 7 pairs correct and if so on what date they nailed it.  Here are my 7 pairs.

all of these are in some order...predict which of your two players goes first if so inclined, but the idea is just to get the pairs correct....

1 and 2 -- Ayton and Bagley (I predict Ayton then Bagley)

3 and 4 -- Young and Porter

5 and 6 -- Doncic and Jaren Jackson (Doncic then Jackson)

7 and 8 -- Bamba and Sexton

9 and 10 --Knox and Carter (Knox first)

11 and 12 -- Bridges and Bridges

13 and 14 is Lonnie Walker and Gilgeous Alexander


enter as many times as you want and explain your changes...

updating final two pairs.

11 and 12 -- Alexander (last game, size, potential, versatility, school) and Bridges

13 and 14 --Other Bridges and Lonnie Walker

(yes you are allowed to not name which Bridges goes first...you're welcome).



The reason Doncic and Bamba are lower in my pairings than current draft prognostication is that I think teams at the last moment freak out over offense and highest possible ceiling.  I think they will say well this Doncic guy reached a high level at a young age and close to ceiling...and I think Bamba will come to be seen as risky when there is such talented offense in the top 6.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: kozlodoev on February 02, 2018, 12:18:32 PM
Every time this pops up, I keep seeing "Predict the lottery in PARIS"...
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: wiley on February 02, 2018, 12:21:41 PM
Every time this pops up, I keep seeing "Predict the lottery in PARIS"...

Changed it....that's Twos, not Toulouse. ;D
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Pairs
Post by: kozlodoev on February 02, 2018, 12:24:09 PM
Every time this pops up, I keep seeing "Predict the lottery in PARIS"...

Changed it....that's Twos, not Toulouse. ;D
Two-lose? :P
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: wiley on February 21, 2018, 11:44:45 AM
From the ESPN mock draft thread...here is Jonathan Givony's latest lottery, presented in twos...
(each pair is in order obviously)

1 and 2:  Doncic, Ayton

3 and 4:  Bamba, Jackson

5 and 6:  Bagley, Porter

7 and 8:  Young, Carter Jr.

9 and 10:  Sexton, Mikal Bridges

11 and 12:  Miles Bridges, Knox

13 and 14:  R. Williams, L. Walker


reflects Trae Young's slump, Jaren Jackson's strong play and good NBA fit, and strong belief in Doncic.

I think Doncic will be surpassed by better athletes as the draft approaches....and don't think Bagley will last until 5.  And I think Ayton will be number 1.  Also won't be surprised if Miles Bridges is out of the lottery due to staying in draft and struggling some.  In his place seems like Gilgeous A. might make it in..

The top 7 in this draft is very hard to predict and will be very interesting on draft night imo...
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: wiley on February 21, 2018, 11:54:55 AM
After the draft we can look back and see if any one got all 7 pairs correct and if so on what date they nailed it.  Here are my 7 pairs.

all of these are in some order...predict which of your two players goes first if so inclined, but the idea is just to get the pairs correct....

1 and 2 -- Ayton and Bagley (I predict Ayton then Bagley)

3 and 4 -- Young and Porter

5 and 6 -- Doncic and Jaren Jackson (Doncic then Jackson)

7 and 8 -- Bamba and Sexton

9 and 10 --Knox and Carter (Knox first)

11 and 12 -- Bridges and Bridges

13 and 14 is Lonnie Walker and Gilgeous Alexander


enter as many times as you want and explain your changes...


updating my pairs:

1 and 2--Ayton, Bagley

3 and 4: Jackson, Porter

5 and 6: Doncic, Bamba

7 and 8: Carter Jr., Young

9 and 10:  Sexton, Mikal Bridges

11 and 12: L. Walker, Knox

13 and 14: Gilgeous Alexander, R. Williams

Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: nickagneta on February 21, 2018, 02:26:59 PM
I think a lot of you guys are missing the boat on Doncic. Kid is mature, an exceptional shooter, great passer, great scorer, and is succeeding in an environment that is much higher level of talent than the NCAA. He will be an excellent player in today's NBA.
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: CFAN38 on February 22, 2018, 09:32:16 AM
1. Ayton and Doncic, as the draft approaches I expect these two to separate from the group as Tier 1

2. Jackson and Bamba, two potentially elite defenders who fit the modern NBA

3. Bagley and Porter, Bagley could go higher depending on team fit and Porter could go higher if his health checks out and he plays well to end this season

4. Young and Carter, Carter will be the consolation prize big man of the early lottery Young could go high if a team with a PG need is drafting 3-6

5. Bridges and Bridges, both players will have a lot of positional value as solid rational wings

6. Knox and Williams, Knox will be a higher upside project for a team in the later lottery while williams is more of a NBA ready defensive big

7. Sexton and J Porter
, Sexton could be a pg of the future or 6th man scoring option for a team will playoff aspirations next season. J Porter is a very young project big who plays like he is much older then 18. 
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: perks-a-beast on February 23, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
1. Ayton & Bagley

2. Doncic & Porter

3. Bamba & Young

4. Jackson Jr. & Carter

5. Sexton & Knox

6. Miles Bridges & R. Williams

7. Gilgeous-Alexander & Mikal Bridges


Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: wiley on February 25, 2018, 03:21:01 PM
I think a lot of you guys are missing the boat on Doncic. Kid is mature, an exceptional shooter, great passer, great scorer, and is succeeding in an environment that is much higher level of talent than the NCAA. He will be an excellent player in today's NBA.

I hope you're right! 

The more talent in the league the better.  I hope his talents translate and he's a superstar version of Hayward.  There are definitely some poor teams that have enough athletes and could use what he brings.  I still think at draft time everyone will be lured by potential of the other top 5 or 6 guys in this draft.  The top of this year's draft and all of next season will be very interesting! 
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: wiley on March 05, 2018, 02:14:16 PM
1 and 2:  Ayton and Porter
3 and 4:  Bagley and Doncic
5 and 6:  Young and Bamba
7 and 8:  Jackson Jr. and Mikal Bridges
9 and 10:  Sexton and Carter Jr.
11 and 12:  Knox and Lonnie Walker
13 and 14:  Gilgeous Alexander and Khyri Thomas


Moved Doncic up to 4....I think GM's will have cold feet on him 1-3 but can afford the risk at 4.
Reached for Khyri Thomas
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: wiley on April 24, 2018, 04:24:03 PM
1 and 2:  Ayton and Porter
3 and 4:  Bagley and Doncic
5 and 6:  Young and Bamba
7 and 8:  Jackson Jr. and Mikal Bridges
9 and 10:  Sexton and Carter Jr.
11 and 12:  Knox and Lonnie Walker
13 and 14:  Gilgeous Alexander and Khyri Thomas


Moved Doncic up to 4....I think GM's will have cold feet on him 1-3 but can afford the risk at 4.
Reached for Khyri Thomas


EDIT:   5/12

Ayton, Porter

Doncic, Bagley

Jackson JR., Bamba

Mikal Bridges, Wendell Carter

Young, Sexton

Knox, Gilgeous Alexander

Miles Bridges,  R. Williams
Title: Re: Predict the Lottery in Twos
Post by: wiley on May 19, 2018, 02:28:09 PM
Edited May 20


SUNS--Doncic

KINGS--Ayton

HAWKS--Porter

GRIZZLIES--Bagley

MAVS--Jackson Jr.   

MAGIC--Trae Young   

BULLS--Mikal Bridges   

CAVS--Carter Jr.           

KNICKS--Bamba       

SIXERS--Sexton       

HORNETS--Miles Bridges     

CLIPPERS--Knox       

CLIPPERS--Zhaire Smith

NUGGETS--Robert Williams


Title: Re: Predict the Entire Lottery
Post by: wiley on May 20, 2018, 06:17:41 PM
1..SUNS--Doncic (or Trade Ayton for Doncic plus X)  How nice is it when your primary ball handler   
    knows exactly what the coach wants to do, and has the skills to sell it to the rest of the team.

2..KINGS--Ayton (ends up here by pick or by Suns trading down)

3..HAWKS--Bagley   close call over Porter

4..GRIZZLIES--Porter   proves himself in draft process

5..MAVS--Jackson Jr.      Smith and Jackson book ends....

6..MAGIC--Trae Young    Gamble on PG of the future

7..BULLS--Mikal Bridges      over Carter by a smidgeon     

8..CAVS--Carter Jr.           hoping the new Al Horford can really be as good as Al Horford

9..KNICKS--Bamba        they wanted Sexton but have to gamble on the faller

10..SIXERS--Sexton        just in case you know what

11..HORNETS--Miles Bridges      even though he didn't play in Carolina

12..CLIPPERS--Knox       potential to play with given pick 13 is theirs too.

13..CLIPPERS--Zhaire Smith (over Alexander so as not to upset Austin...looks good too)

14..NUGGETS--Gilgeous Alexander   (they need Robert Williams too but can only pick one guy)