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Title: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Monkhouse on December 01, 2017, 05:24:02 PM
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: kozlodoev on December 01, 2017, 05:26:03 PM
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
First, it is, in fact, possible. Not directly, but we essentially received a pick to release Doc from his contract obligations.

Second, I'm not sure why Wyc needs to deal with these two trolls. Half of their drivel isn't intended to make sense anyhow.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 01, 2017, 05:27:44 PM
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Felger & Mazz

=

Two guys who hate basketball and not anything other than token Celtics fans.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Monkhouse on December 01, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
First, it is, in fact, possible. Not directly, but we essentially received a pick to release Doc from his contract obligations.

Second, I'm not sure why Wyc needs to deal with these two trolls. Half of their drivel isn't intended to make sense anyhow.

I think that's what his point was originally. Because we received the 1st round pick with the Austin Rivers trade. I don't think you can attach any pick to an coach? Maybe I'm mistaken, and Wyc has to appeal to his fans. For some reason Felger/Mazz gets a lot of airtime...
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: kozlodoev on December 01, 2017, 05:32:48 PM
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
First, it is, in fact, possible. Not directly, but we essentially received a pick to release Doc from his contract obligations.

Second, I'm not sure why Wyc needs to deal with these two trolls. Half of their drivel isn't intended to make sense anyhow.

I think that's what his point was originally. Because we received the 1st round pick with the Austin Rivers trade. I don't think you can attach any pick to an coach? Maybe I'm mistaken, and Wyc has to appeal to his fans. For some reason Felger/Mazz gets a lot of airtime...
Here's the presser the team put out back then:
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The Boston Celtics announced today that they have allowed Doc Rivers to pursue a coaching opportunity with the Los Angeles Clippers. The Celtics will receive a future first round pick from the Clippers in exchange for allowing Rivers to depart.

Rivers, 51, was named Celtics head coach on April 29, 2004 and was the 16th head coach in franchise history. In his nine seasons with Boston, Rivers amassed a record of 416-305 during the regular season and 59-47 during the postseason.

The distinction here is that in a regular roster trade, you're trading the player together with the contract. You can't really trade staff contracts, essentially the Celtics received a pick to allow Doc to sign with the Clippers, which is the same as a trade for all intents and purposes.

Felger and Mazz are Felger and Mazz. They watch basketball once a year, and neither of them has any idea how the NBA works. Also, Mazz might have the most aggravating voice on radio.

Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: saltlover on December 01, 2017, 05:34:03 PM
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
First, it is, in fact, possible. Not directly, but we essentially received a pick to release Doc from his contract obligations.

Second, I'm not sure why Wyc needs to deal with these two trolls. Half of their drivel isn't intended to make sense anyhow.

I think that's what his point was originally. Because we received the 1st round pick with the Austin Rivers trade. I don't think you can attach any pick to an coach? Maybe I'm mistaken, and Wyc has to appeal to his fans. For some reason Felger/Mazz gets a lot of airtime...

No, we received a first, which became RJ Hunter, for allowing the Clippers to sign Doc even though he was under contract to the Celtics.  We received a second 18 months later, which became Jabari Bird.

Wyc’s point (I assume) is the Celtics couldn’t force Stevens to another team via trade like they could with players.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Big333223 on December 01, 2017, 05:39:50 PM
We're lucky fans to have Wyc at the helm.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: chambers on December 01, 2017, 06:00:36 PM
Why did they suggest trading Brad?
It wasn't a joke on thier part?
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: GratefulCs on December 01, 2017, 06:02:20 PM
i love Wyc


felger and mazz are impossible to listen to

their schtick is old and worn out


they never even watch basketball anyway
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Monkhouse on December 01, 2017, 06:06:17 PM
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
First, it is, in fact, possible. Not directly, but we essentially received a pick to release Doc from his contract obligations.

Second, I'm not sure why Wyc needs to deal with these two trolls. Half of their drivel isn't intended to make sense anyhow.

I think that's what his point was originally. Because we received the 1st round pick with the Austin Rivers trade. I don't think you can attach any pick to an coach? Maybe I'm mistaken, and Wyc has to appeal to his fans. For some reason Felger/Mazz gets a lot of airtime...

No, we received a first, which became RJ Hunter, for allowing the Clippers to sign Doc even though he was under contract to the Celtics.  We received a second 18 months later, which became Jabari Bird.

Wyc’s point (I assume) is the Celtics couldn’t force Stevens to another team via trade like they could with players.
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Here’s the link to the clip.http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/wyc-grousbeck-our-coach-primary-reason-we-are-18-4:

All credits go to Redsarmy.

Here are a couple of highlights:

On Felger & Mazz suggesting trading Brad Stevens for a 2nd round pick (note: that’s not even possible, but, whatever)

Wyc: “we may take our rights from this station and move them elsewhere because of just the sheer stupidity.. of the top 1,000 remarks I’ve heard in my life, that’s the stupidest”

Wyc: “If you owned this team we wouldn’t win a game in a decade”

Wyc: “Our coach is the primary reason we’re 18-4”

Wyc: “Al, Gordon, and Kyrie are here because of Brad”

Listen to the clip and listen to how clueless those two guys sound. Thank the basketball gods above that Wyc and this ownership group know basketball and aren’t influenced by people like this.

A goodie from Wyc. Love when he talks about our team, and how confident and well spoken he sounds. You can tell he's emotionally invested as a fan, and as a team owner.
First, it is, in fact, possible. Not directly, but we essentially received a pick to release Doc from his contract obligations.

Second, I'm not sure why Wyc needs to deal with these two trolls. Half of their drivel isn't intended to make sense anyhow.

I think that's what his point was originally. Because we received the 1st round pick with the Austin Rivers trade. I don't think you can attach any pick to an coach? Maybe I'm mistaken, and Wyc has to appeal to his fans. For some reason Felger/Mazz gets a lot of airtime...
Here's the presser the team put out back then:
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The Boston Celtics announced today that they have allowed Doc Rivers to pursue a coaching opportunity with the Los Angeles Clippers. The Celtics will receive a future first round pick from the Clippers in exchange for allowing Rivers to depart.

Rivers, 51, was named Celtics head coach on April 29, 2004 and was the 16th head coach in franchise history. In his nine seasons with Boston, Rivers amassed a record of 416-305 during the regular season and 59-47 during the postseason.

The distinction here is that in a regular roster trade, you're trading the player together with the contract. You can't really trade staff contracts, essentially the Celtics received a pick to allow Doc to sign with the Clippers, which is the same as a trade for all intents and purposes.

Felger and Mazz are Felger and Mazz. They watch basketball once a year, and neither of them has any idea how the NBA works. Also, Mazz might have the most aggravating voice on radio.

I see, thanks for clarifying. I forgot about the trade, and R.J. Hunter lol.
Why did they suggest trading Brad?
It wasn't a joke on thier part?

If I remember correctly, it was something they suggested when Stevens got hired, and it was about a few months into his tenure (?).

I don't really like Felger/Mazz either, so I'm glad Wyc chewed them out and gave them a piece of his mind. Ainge seems to call them out on their blatant stupidity, and obvious lack of basketball knowledge, but it doesn't even seem to faze or make them at all surprised. It seems like based on their body language, they seem to respect and listen to Wyc more, which is confoundingly weird... When you take into account, both Ainge and Wyc both benefit from each other's success.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: blink on December 01, 2017, 06:11:01 PM
wow great response from Wyc.  I love the straightforward no bs responses.  We are lucky to have a great owner.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 01, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
what two morons ....

If I were Front office Id completely pull all their advertising

Id demand the owners of the station fire them

Two absolute,creeps.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: kozlodoev on December 01, 2017, 06:30:47 PM
I don't really like Felger/Mazz either, so I'm glad Wyc chewed them out and gave them a piece of his mind. Ainge seems to call them out on their blatant stupidity, and obvious lack of basketball knowledge, but it doesn't even seem to faze or make them at all surprised. It seems like based on their body language, they seem to respect and listen to Wyc more, which is confoundingly weird... When you take into account, both Ainge and Wyc both benefit from each other's success.
The morning show has the Celtics cornered there. Toucher and Rich do mean interviews with Gorman and Ainge on back to back days, and don't really pretend they know more about the Celtics than they do.

Funny story: apparently they were doing music radio and had zero experience in sports talk when they got tabbed for the Hub. That explains a lot about the constant babbling about popular music.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: SaCaCh on December 01, 2017, 06:44:32 PM
Um did Wyc just let go info he shouldn't have about Kyrie? Saying Kyrie "chose us" and then about "refusing to go back" Was that when the trade was done and Cleveland tried to stop it? Did Kyrie say I'm not going back after Cleveland tried to hold us hostage for more picks?
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Atzar on December 01, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
Um did Wyc just let go info he shouldn't have about Kyrie? Saying Kyrie "chose us" and then about "refusing to go back" Was that when the trade was done and Cleveland tried to stop it? Did Kyrie say I'm not going back after Cleveland tried to hold us hostage for more picks?

The story at the time was that Kyrie was excited about the trade and waived his trade kicker to show that he wanted to play here.  He didn’t “choose us” in the literal sense because it wasn’t his choice to make, but that gesture did suggest that he favored us over other potential destinations.

Perhaps Wyc is simply referring to that.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: smokeablount on December 01, 2017, 09:07:09 PM
Um did Wyc just let go info he shouldn't have about Kyrie? Saying Kyrie "chose us" and then about "refusing to go back" Was that when the trade was done and Cleveland tried to stop it? Did Kyrie say I'm not going back after Cleveland tried to hold us hostage for more picks?

The story at the time was that Kyrie was excited about the trade and waived his trade kicker to show that he wanted to play here.  He didn’t “choose us” in the literal sense because it wasn’t his choice to make, but that gesture did suggest that he favored us over other potential destinations.

Perhaps Wyc is simply referring to that.

I dunno, seems like he walked back the “refused to go back” part...
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Phantom255x on December 01, 2017, 09:10:17 PM
These two buffoons said they should fire Belichick and trade Brady after getting blown out 41-14 to KC that Monday night a few years ago...

2.5 years and 2 Super Bowls later..  ::)

But seriously, "hey should they trade the next Popovich and a Top-3 coach in the league for a 2nd round pick"?? IDIOTIC. I'm glad Wyc blasted them.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: gift on December 01, 2017, 09:57:11 PM
I think those guys were a little uncomfortable when he first mentioned the moving the rights thing. He let them off the hook and should have pressed it like he was really serious.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: manl_lui on December 01, 2017, 11:21:03 PM
I know they hate basketball but unsure what their knowledge is in hockey or baseball (Mazz does seem like he is a big fan and knows it)

With that said, I am on Wyc's side, that they should just pull all Celtics / basketball related ads from them and not allow them to talk about the Celtics in any form.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: green_bballers13 on December 01, 2017, 11:44:55 PM
what two morons ....

If I were Front office Id completely pull all their advertising

Id demand the owners of the station fire them

Two absolute,creeps.

Schtick sells. I don't think we get their actual opinions. Radio is all about hot takes and contrarian thoughts to generate a buzz. Sponsors want listeners, and they get what they want with Felger & Mazz.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: keevsnick on December 02, 2017, 12:27:54 AM
First  of all if you actually listen too the interview its not actually as heated as this transcript makes it appear. the pull your rights thing was a joke for example. Wyc is clearly convinced that Brad is extremely important to this team, and he is right. To be fair however the point Felger and Maz make about superstars being fundamentally more important than coaches in basketball is true. I'd rather have Kyrie Irving than Brad Stevens. Tyron freakin' Lue won a championship (with Kyrie being a big reason why). Felger and Mazz obviously take stuff to the extreme, cuz its radio and they want to get listeners. But they aren't wrong fundamentally. Doesn't mean Brad isn't super important, I'd rather have him than any coach in the league right now, but superstars win.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: GreenWarrior on December 02, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
yeah the point they were trying to make was basically "if" you had to choose between a superstar and the coach what would the choice be?

Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: jdz101 on December 02, 2017, 09:22:58 AM
yeah the point they were trying to make was basically "if" you had to choose between a superstar and the coach what would the choice be?

If that's the point they wanted to make then don't start the questions with the interviewee with "how important is coaching?!" - or basically implying that coaches in the nba aren't important.

The scenario is completely ****ing ridiculous, (superstar or coach), and so was how they introduced their theory. They're both complete idiots.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: cman88 on December 02, 2017, 09:48:45 AM
they kind of both are right. Brad is extremely important to the celtics and is a good coach. the amount of players that get BETTER when they come here is an example of that. he gets the most out of the talent he has. He also is the reason we got Kyrie, Hayward, Big Al

BUT

tyron lue won a championship, so did erik spoelstra, even doc rivers has done poorly with the clippers since he hasn't had 3 HOF players.

So, coaches can be extremely important, but if you have HOF talent it can overcome poor coaching.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: timpiker on December 02, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Good for Wyc.  I don't live anywhere near Boston but occasionally I watch these 2 and I must say its amazing what passes for entertainment in Boston.  I absolutely hate Felger.  I think I hate him more than Stephen A Smith.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Eja117 on December 02, 2017, 11:07:52 AM
These two buffoons said they should fire Belichick and trade Brady after getting blown out 41-14 to KC that Monday night a few years ago...

2.5 years and 2 Super Bowls later..  ::)

But seriously, "hey should they trade the next Popovich and a Top-3 coach in the league for a 2nd round pick"?? IDIOTIC. I'm glad Wyc blasted them.
This brings me to my idiotic point.....without getting Duncan in the lottery Pops would have been just another guy.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Real World on December 02, 2017, 11:20:42 AM
Those two are insufferable.  Sadly, they really don't know sports.  They are two sensationalist morons who's shtick is geared toward the national enquirer listener.   I remember them ripping Danny Ainge after  the trade deadline last season Garnett and Pierce were on the team.  He kept sarcastically saying "trader danny...blah, blah,blah", and insisting that trading them for something was better than doing nothing.  Of course, that offseason DA traded the pair to the Nets for what would become 3 lottery picks, and a spearhead to an incredible rebuild that has the team at the top of the league, and set up for years to come.  Those two, Felger and Mazz, are morons.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Phantom255x on December 02, 2017, 12:24:26 PM
Felger & Mazz (mostly Felger) were the same morons who, just one day after Halladay's death, mocked him for being stupid out there and said "he deserved it". JUST ONE DAY AFTER IT HAPPENED (not even 24 hours)  >:(  >:(  >:(

Even if Halladay was reckless that day and it caused his death, I'm sorry but you don't mock it and make a joke about it for much of the show (which lasts hours). Especially just a day later when not everything was released yet (true cause of crash, etc.).

And unfortunately, it painted a bad picture about Boston because these two idiots found themselves on national media that day as well...  >:(
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Eja117 on December 02, 2017, 12:37:50 PM
I guess I'm such a troll I sorta like Felger but really dislike Maz. I think Felger and Holley would be the best radio show. Personally I'm not a fan of radio or TV personalities that are afraid to criticize something and are complete total homers where the team can do no wrong.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Dino Pitino on December 02, 2017, 01:58:15 PM
Felger & Mazz are a disgrace to the city. It amazes me that there are fans who listen to that pollution every day.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: GreenWarrior on December 02, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
I think they speak a lot of truth that New England sports fans can't fathom because they won't let themselves deal in reality.

as for coaching in the NBA. i'm of the opinion that you don't need a great coach to win but a bad coach will bring any team down. perfect example phil Jackson pretty much won with the same team del harris couldn't do anything with in LA.

and the answer to the question is - you pick the player not the coach.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Phantom255x on December 02, 2017, 06:41:10 PM
I think they speak a lot of truth that New England sports fans can't fathom because they won't let themselves deal in reality.

as for coaching in the NBA. i'm of the opinion that you don't need a great coach to win but a bad coach will bring any team down. perfect example phil Jackson pretty much won with the same team del harris couldn't do anything with in LA.

and the answer to the question is - you pick the player not the coach.

By truth, you mean root against all the teams and hope for failures, as well as making atrocious assumptions based on the smallest of sample sizes, right?  ::)

Please. They must really have been right and truthful when they said Belichick and Brady should have been fired and traded 2 years ago.  ::)
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Eja117 on December 02, 2017, 07:28:38 PM
I think they speak a lot of truth that New England sports fans can't fathom because they won't let themselves deal in reality.

as for coaching in the NBA. i'm of the opinion that you don't need a great coach to win but a bad coach will bring any team down. perfect example phil Jackson pretty much won with the same team del harris couldn't do anything with in LA.

and the answer to the question is - you pick the player not the coach.

By truth, you mean root against all the teams and hope for failures, as well as making atrocious assumptions based on the smallest of sample sizes, right?  ::)

Please. They must really have been right and truthful when they said Belichick and Brady should have been fired and traded 2 years ago.  ::)
Out of curiosity do you think players and coaches live under rocks, or do you suppose sometimes they hear the criticism and react to it?
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Phantom255x on December 02, 2017, 07:30:22 PM
I think they speak a lot of truth that New England sports fans can't fathom because they won't let themselves deal in reality.

as for coaching in the NBA. i'm of the opinion that you don't need a great coach to win but a bad coach will bring any team down. perfect example phil Jackson pretty much won with the same team del harris couldn't do anything with in LA.

and the answer to the question is - you pick the player not the coach.

By truth, you mean root against all the teams and hope for failures, as well as making atrocious assumptions based on the smallest of sample sizes, right?  ::)

Please. They must really have been right and truthful when they said Belichick and Brady should have been fired and traded 2 years ago.  ::)
Out of curiosity do you think players and coaches live under rocks, or do you suppose sometimes they hear the criticism and react to it?

Hey, all I'm saying is that I bet you if the Patriots, Celtics, Bruins or Red Sox lost a playoff game by a big margin, Felger, Mazz, Shaugnessy, etc. would all throw parties and have a field day discussing the failures while praising another team (the rivals).
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: GreenWarrior on December 02, 2017, 08:19:10 PM
I think they speak a lot of truth that New England sports fans can't fathom because they won't let themselves deal in reality.

as for coaching in the NBA. i'm of the opinion that you don't need a great coach to win but a bad coach will bring any team down. perfect example phil Jackson pretty much won with the same team del harris couldn't do anything with in LA.

and the answer to the question is - you pick the player not the coach.

By truth, you mean root against all the teams and hope for failures, as well as making atrocious assumptions based on the smallest of sample sizes, right?  ::)

they don't root against anyone, but if their show was just this big fan-fest what's the point? 

Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Phantom255x on December 02, 2017, 08:39:18 PM
I think they speak a lot of truth that New England sports fans can't fathom because they won't let themselves deal in reality.

as for coaching in the NBA. i'm of the opinion that you don't need a great coach to win but a bad coach will bring any team down. perfect example phil Jackson pretty much won with the same team del harris couldn't do anything with in LA.

and the answer to the question is - you pick the player not the coach.

By truth, you mean root against all the teams and hope for failures, as well as making atrocious assumptions based on the smallest of sample sizes, right?  ::)

they don't root against anyone, but if their show was just this big fan-fest what's the point?

Recent times: David Price. Stephon Gilmore. They've attacked them A TON even when they do good. Part of the reason is contract $$$, but also because they need a "punching bag" to lean on each season to blame for consistent failures for each team, etc.

They sure praise a lot of other teams though. Mazz to me is a Yankees fan and quite a few people think that too.

But forget that. Look at this particular segment.

"Do the Celtics need Brad Stevens? Would you trade him for a 2nd round pick?"

 ::)
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: jbp126 on December 02, 2017, 09:04:01 PM
Anyone else find it funny that Felger used GS as his example of why coaching doesn't matter? Maybe he forgot that a coaching change from Mark Jackson to Steve Kerr helped take them from a 50 win team to a dynasty.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Snakehead on December 02, 2017, 09:19:26 PM
Boston sports media continues to be mostly awful.  The people who just cover the Celtics are pretty good though.

For me, Wyc has been a perfect owner.  Glad to have him.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: 2short on December 02, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
As long as I've known felger on tv or radio here is what i do
When he's on and starts speaking i change the channel
A sensationalist troll in every aspect

If enough people stop listening to that idiot it'll show and he'll get canned.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Forza Juventus on December 02, 2017, 11:08:02 PM
This. I can't believe what they said about Halladay. And they know absolutely nothing about basketball.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Forza Juventus on December 02, 2017, 11:11:28 PM
Felger & Mazz are a disgrace to the city. It amazes me that there are fans who listen to that pollution every day.

This. I can't believe what they said about Halladay. And they know absolutely nothing about basketball.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: GreenWarrior on December 03, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
the hate is comical.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Bobshot on December 03, 2017, 11:20:42 PM
Tabloid sports radio in Boston is a detriment to signing top free agents for every Boston team. It goes on in other big cities, too. One reason a lot of people don't like the media, much less listen to it.

They say Belichick has a sign over the dressing room door :"ignore the media".  Good advice for the players. Keep the media out of your head.

From a different perspective, the media consists of people who are trying to make a living, like everybody else. They are in competition with one another. Sure, they abuse their privileges, and are even coddled by teams. Most are decent people. The trick is not to take them too seriously.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: loco_91 on December 04, 2017, 12:14:32 AM
My question: if CBS is as important as a superstar, when his contract is up, will he get paid like a superstar? 5 years $100m. Stevens deserves it.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: flybono on December 05, 2017, 06:43:43 PM
Felger is from Wisconsin and a packers fan. Should I say more?
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: timpiker on December 05, 2017, 07:54:58 PM
Would anyone on this forum that has watched Felger more than 5 times ever consider being a good friend of his?  Seriously.  This is an honest question.  Does anyone truly think they could be good friends with him?
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: kozlodoev on December 05, 2017, 08:04:54 PM
Would anyone on this forum that has watched Felger more than 5 times ever consider being a good friend of his?  Seriously.  This is an honest question.  Does anyone truly think they could be good friends with him?
I have nothing against him personally.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Phantom255x on December 05, 2017, 08:12:00 PM
Felger is from Wisconsin and a packers fan. Should I say more?

If he didn't marry Sara Underwood (Fox 25), he'd be stuck in Wisconsin miserably trying to call Aaron Rodgers "the GOAT" and saying sports in the Milwaukee/Green Bay region is amazing  ::)

Wish he was stuck there as opposed to being here.
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: 2short on December 05, 2017, 08:15:57 PM
Would anyone on this forum that has watched Felger more than 5 times ever consider being a good friend of his?  Seriously.  This is an honest question.  Does anyone truly think they could be good friends with him?
Two part question:
If that is really his personality I not only couldn't be friends with him but I couldn't be in the same room with him
If its all an act than I have no respect for him.  Give me tainted and faulty Jackie M or Tommy any day of the week
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Bobshot on December 06, 2017, 12:52:09 PM

It isn't just Felger and Mazz. There is a tabloid element of the Boston media that hurts the local teams.

Doesn't Henry of the Red Sox own NESN? Well, they tweet out a lot of tabloid junk too.
 
And then this morning there was an ominous tweet via Silverman of the Herald that they had discovered something dastardly about Joey Cora, Red Sox manager. You dig through a couple of Herald scribes for the story (Buckley), and it turns out Cora had some argument with another Astro in the clubhouse or on the plane. Something the Houston media didn't even bother with. They tried to compare it with the Price-Eckersley incident on the plane, which they made a big deal of. That one even smacked of racism. I can imagine the resentment of players having to fly with critical media.

Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: manl_lui on December 06, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
i haven't seen anyone post the video yet, but here's one of them http://www.celticslife.com/2017/12/video-wyc-tears-into-felger-for-brad.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Title: Re: Wyc scolds Felger & Mazz
Post by: Snakehead on December 06, 2017, 01:04:49 PM

It isn't just Felger and Mazz. There is a tabloid element of the Boston media that hurts the local teams.


I agree with you.  It's gross and it doesn't have to be that way.