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Since the regular season is officially closed, the playoffs are now open. Thought we create a thread to capture the 2017 NBA playoffs. Here are the matchups and times for each series.
Eastern Conference Quarterfinals
No. 1 Boston Celtics vs. No. 8 Chicago Bulls Celtics Wins 4-2
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Boston, 106-102 Bulls
Game 2: Tuesday, Apr. 18 at Boston, 111-97 Bulls
Game 3: Friday, Apr. 21 at Chicago, 104-87 Celtics
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Chicago, 104-95 Celtics
Game 5: Wednesday, Apr. 26 at Boston, 108-97 Celtics
Game 6: Friday, Apr. 28 at Chicago, 105-83 Celtics
No. 2 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. No. 7 Indiana Pacers Cavs Wins 4-0
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at Cleveland, 109-108 Cavs
Game 2: Monday, Apr. 17 at Cleveland, 117-111 Cavs
Game 3: Thursday, Apr. 20 at Indiana, 119-114 Cavs
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Indiana, 106-102 Cavs
No. 3 Toronto Raptors vs. No. 6 Milwaukee Bucks Raptors Win 4-2
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at Toronto, 97-83 Bucks
Game 2: Tuesday, Apr. 18 at Toronto, 106-100 Raptors
Game 3: Thursday, Apr. 20 at Milwaukee, 104-77 Bucks
Game 4: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Milwaukee, 87-76 Raptors
Game 5: Monday, Apr. 24 at Toronto, 118-93 Raptors
Game 6: Thursday, Apr. 27 at Milwaukee, 92-89 Raptors
No. 4 Washington Wizards vs. No. 5 Atlanta Hawks Wizards Win 4-2
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Washington, 114-107 Wizards
Game 2: Wednesday, Apr. 19 at Washington, 109-101 Wizards
Game 3: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Atlanta, 116-98 Hawks
Game 4: Monday, Apr. 24 at Atlanta, 111-101 Hawks
Game 5: Wednesday, Apr. 26 at Washington, 103-99 Wizards
Game 6*: Friday, Apr. 28 at Atlanta, 1115-99 Wizards
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Eastern Conference Semifinals
No. 1 Boston Celtics vs. No. 4 Washington Wizards Celtics Wins 4-3
Game 1 in Boston: Sunday, April 30 123-111 Celtics
Game 2 in Boston: Tuesday, May 2 129-119 OT Celtics
Game 3 in Washington: Thursday, May 4 116-89 Wizards
Game 4 in Washington: Sunday, May 7 121-102 Wizards
Game 5 in Boston: Wednesday, May 10 123-101 Celtics
Game 6 in Washington: Friday, May 12 92-91 Wizards
Game 7 in Boston: Monday, May 15 115-105 Celtics
No. 2 Cleveland Cavaliers vs No. 3 Toronto Raptors Cavs Wins 4-0
Game 1 – Mon. May 1, Toronto at Cleveland, 116-105 Cavs
Game 2 – Wed. May 3, Toronto at Cleveland, 125-103 Cavs
Game 3 – Fri. May 5, Cleveland at Toronto, 115-94 Cavs
Game 4 – Sun. May 7, Cleveland at Toronto, 109-102 Cavs
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Eastern Conference Finals
No. 1 Boston Celtics vs. No. 2 Cleveland Cavaliers Cavs lead 2-1
Game 1 - Wednesday, May 17, Cavaliers vs. Celtics 117-104 Cavs
Game 2 - Friday, May 19, Cavaliers vs. Celtics 130-86 Cavs
Game 3 - Sunday, May 21, Celtics vs. Cavaliers 111-108 Celtics
Game 4 - Tuesday, May 23, 8:30 p.m.: Celtics vs. Cavaliers | TNT
Game 5 - *Thursday, May 25, 8:30 p.m.: Cavaliers vs. Celtics | TNT
Game 6 - *Saturday, May 27, 8:30 p.m.: Celtics vs. Cavaliers | TNT
Game 7 - *Monday, May 29, 8:30 p.m.: Cavaliers vs. Celtics | TNT
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Western Conference Quarterfinals
No. 1 Golden State Warriors vs. No. 8 Portland Trail Blazers Warriors Win 4-0
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Golden State, 121-109 Warriors
Game 2: Wednesday, Apr. 19 at Golden State, 110-81 Warriors
Game 3: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Portland, 119-113 Warriors
Game 4: Monday, Apr. 24 at Portland, 128-103 Warriors
No. 2 San Antonio Spurs vs. No. 7 Memphis Grizzlies Spurs Win 4-2
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at San Antonio, 111-82 Spurs
Game 2: Monday, Apr. 17 at San Antonio, 96-82 Spurs
Game 3: Thursday, Apr. 20 at Memphis, 105-94 Grizzlies
Game 4: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Memphis, 110-108 Grizzlies
Game 5: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at San Antonio, 116-103 Spurs
Game 6: Thursday, Apr. 27 at Memphis, 103-96 Spurs
No. 3 Houston Rockets vs. No. 6 Oklahoma City Thunder Rockets Wins 4-1
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Houston, 118-87 Rockets
Game 2: Wednesday, Apr. 19 at Houston, 115-111 Rockets
Game 3: Friday, Apr. 21 at Oklahoma City, 115-113 Thunder
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Oklahoma City, 113-109 Rockets
Game 5: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at Houston, 105-99 Rockets
No. 4 Los Angeles Clippers vs. No. 5 Utah Jazz Jazz Wins 4-3
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at Los Angeles, 97-95 Jazz
Game 2: Tuesday, Apr. 18 at Los Angeles, 99-91 Clippers
Game 3: Friday, Apr. 21 at Utah, 111-106 Clippers
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Utah, 105-98 Jazz
Game 5: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at Los Angeles, 96-92 Jazz
Game 6: Friday, Apr. 28 at Utah, 98-93 Clippers
Game 7: Sunday, Apr. 30 at Los Angeles, 104-91 Jazz
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Western Conference Semifinals
No. 1 Golden State Warriors vs. No. 5 Utah Jazz Warriors Win 4-0
Game 1: May 2, 10:30 p.m. ET @ Golden State 106-94 Warriors
Game 2: May 4, 10:30 pm. ET @ Golden State 115-104 Warriors
Game 3: May 6, 8:30 p.m. ET @ Utah 102-91 Warriors
Game 4: May 8, 9 p.m. ET @ Utah 121-95 Warriors
No. 2 San Antonio Spurs vs. No. 3 Houston Rockets Spurs Win 4-2
Game 1 – Mon. May 1 Houston at San Antonio, 126-99 Rockets
Game 2 – Wed. May 3 Houston at San Antonio, 121-96 Spurs
Game 3 – Fri. May 5 San Antonio at Houston, 103-92 Spurs
Game 4 – Sun. May 7 San Antonio at Houston, 125-104 Rockets
Game 5 – Tue. May 9 Houston at San Antonio, 110-107 OT Spurs
Game 6 – Thu. May 11 San Antonio at Houston, 114-75 Spurs
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Western Conference Finals
No. 1 Golden State Warriors vs. No. 2 San Antonio Spurs Warriors Win 4-0
Game 1: Sunday, May 14, Spurs at Warriors 113-111 Warriors
Game 2: Tuesday, May 16, Spurs at Warriors 136-100 Warriors
Game 3: Saturday, May 20, Warriors at Spurs 120-108 Warriors
Game 4: Monday, May 22, Warriors at Spurs 129-115 Warriors
* = If Necessary
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Let's go Celticsd
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The best matchup is Houston vs. OKC. Harden vs. Westbrook. That will be an epic battle.
Clippers vs. Jazz should be good too.
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I like Bucks and Raptors series . Houston OkC in West .
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That Atlanta vs Washington series is going to be sneaky good. Would not be surprised if it went 7 games.
And that OKC vs Houston series will reach epic proportions. I smell an upset in this series.
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I hope Houston gets eliminated in the 1st round. And it would be sweet if the Pacers beat up on the Cavs.
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only series that look like they'd be wrapped up quickly are: GSW beating Portland, SAS over Memphis and Cleveland over Indy. the others look like they'd all go 6 games or more.
I'd like to think the C's as the #1 would take out Chicago quickly but with this team's Jeckyl and Hyde performances I think Chicago could take 2-3 games of the series
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Western Conference
San Antonio vs Memphis
I like the look of this series. I think Memphis can give them a tough game. I like the way Memphis matches up with them. Two teams with a similar focus on team basketball. Memphis actually do a better job of playing together for my money. Just have less talent. Pau Gasol and Aldridge vs Marc Gasol and Z-Bo. Love the big man matchups. Memphis have a good advantage at PG with Conley. The difference between Kawhi and Grizzlies wings should send the series San Antonio's way but the Grizzlies do have good wing defenders to throw at Kawhi.
I think it'll go 6 or 7 games for the Spurs
Oklahoma City vs Houston
Love this series because of Westbrook vs Harden. The two most ball-dominant stars in the league. The two best solo-ists in the league. Going head to head.
Both teams have average teams outside of their stars. Houston with offensive talent. OKC with defensive talent. The big difference is on the bench. D'Antoni is a huge advantage over Donovan and I expect that to be the difference in the series.
Houston in 6 or 7 games.
Golden State vs Portland
Boring series. Golden State should sweep. Maybe Portland can steal a game if they get hot from 3 or Nurkic has a monster effort. I expect Nurkic to get a major payday after how well he performs in the playoffs against GSW.
LA Clippers vs Utah Jazz
I think these are the two most talented teams in the West outside of Golden State.
The Clippers had a good start to the season but then injuries hit and I don't think they have ever recovered from that. Given that, I am unsure how much of a challenge they end up being this postseason. I hope they can get their act together because they are more talented than SAS and HOU.
Utah have underachieved all year long and I expect them to continue to do so in the playoffs. They just haven't found the right balance between their players. Don't maximize their talent. I am not optimistic about their chances. I'd like to see them change their coach in the off-season.
The Clippers should win in 6 if they are healthy.
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Eastern Conference
Boston vs Chicago
Boston has a major advantage talent wise over the Bulls. That Chicago team simply does not fit well together and the Celtics should make short work of them. The Bulls main hope of pulling off a surprise display is Mirotic. He is the key to their offense (after Butler).
Boston in 5.
Cleveland vs Indiana
Another huge mismatch in talent. The Cavs have it. The Pacers do not. Cleveland in 4.
Washington vs Atlanta
Two boring teams which nobody really cares about. Not a believer in either team. I'll go with Washington in 6 because they have two creators offensively out on the perimeter and Atlanta goes into regular offensive funks due to the lack of multiple offensive creators on the perimeter.
Toronto vs Milwaukee
I have Toronto as the 2nd most talented team in the East after Cleveland after the additions of Ibaka and PJ Tucker. I love their roster and how the pieces fit together.
I love parts of the Milwaukee team. Brogdon, Giannis, Middleton. Their best bet to win will be through their wing defense on DeRozan. If they can slow DeRozan down - like Paul George did last year - the Bucks can make this a 7 game series and have a real shot at winning.
I am kind of unhappy the Raps got Milwaukee because this is the toughest series they could have gotten. Could go either way. I'll go Toronto in 7.
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Utah have underachieved all year long and I expect them to continue to do so in the playoffs. They just haven't found the right balance between their players. Don't maximize their talent. I am not optimistic about their chances. I'd like to see them change their coach in the off-season.
The Clippers should win in 6 if they are healthy.
I couldn't disagree more about your assessment of Utah.
Utah has over-achieved, if anything, when you factor in how many games they have lost to injury this season. George Hill, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood have all missed 20+ games, that's 3/5 of their preferred starting lineup. The fact they have been able to keep winning games despite this is a testament to their depth of talent, particularly on the wings, and the solid coaching of Quinn Snyder.
I actually think Snyder has done a fantastic job this year getting the most out of guys like Joe Johnson, who has performed quite admirably as a small ball 4, and Joe Ingles.
If Hill is in fact now healthy, I expect Utah to pull off the upset.
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Utah have underachieved all year long and I expect them to continue to do so in the playoffs. They just haven't found the right balance between their players. Don't maximize their talent. I am not optimistic about their chances. I'd like to see them change their coach in the off-season.
The Clippers should win in 6 if they are healthy.
I couldn't disagree more about your assessment of Utah.
Utah has over-achieved, if anything, when you factor in how many games they have lost to injury this season. George Hill, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood have all missed 20+ games, that's 3/5 of their preferred starting lineup. The fact they have been able to keep winning games despite this is a testament to their depth of talent, particularly on the wings, and the solid coaching of Quinn Snyder.
I actually think Snyder has done a fantastic job this year getting the most out of guys like Joe Johnson, who has performed quite admirably as a small ball 4, and Joe Ingles.
If Hill is in fact now healthy, I expect Utah to pull off the upset.
Yes, I agree with a lot of that.
I think Snyder has done a good job of keeping the team playing well through various injuries.
What I do not like is when they are healthy. I don't think Snyder has developed the team -- a mentality, a style of play, an understanding of how they win and what their roles are in how they achieve that.
I do not like how this team plays together when they are healthy.
I am impressed by what they did through those injuries. I think their team often looks more comfortable (in their roles) when someone is missing. When Favors is out of the mix. More space to operate. When one of the perimeter players is out, easier to distribute touches and shot attempts amongst Hill / Hood / Hayward.
I think Snyder has done a good job to bring the team this far but now they need a new voice to take them to the next level.
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Since the regular season is officially closed, the playoffs are now open. Thought we create a thread to capture the 2017 NBA playoffs. Here are the matchups and times for each series.
Eastern Conference
No. 1 Boston Celtics vs. No. 8 Chicago Bulls
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Boston, 6:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 2: Tuesday, Apr. 18 at Boston, 8 p.m. (TNT)
Game 3: Friday, Apr. 21 at Chicago, 7 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Chicago, 6:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 5*: Wednesday, Apr. 26 at Boston
Game 6*: Friday, Apr. 28 at Chicago
Game 7*: Sunday, Apr. 30 at Boston
No. 2 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. No. 7 Indiana Pacers
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at Cleveland, 3 p.m. (ABC)
Game 2: Monday, Apr. 17 at Cleveland, 7 p.m. (TNT)
Game 3: Thursday, Apr. 20 at Indiana, 7 p.m. (TNT)
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Indiana, 1 p.m. (ABC)
Game 5*: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at Cleveland
Game 6*: Thursday, Apr. 27 at Indiana
Game 7*: Saturday, Apr. 29 at Cleveland (TNT)
No. 3 Toronto Raptors vs. No. 6 Milwaukee Bucks
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at Toronto, 5:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 2: Tuesday, Apr. 18 at Toronto, 7 p.m. (NBA TV)
Game 3: Thursday, Apr. 20 at Milwaukee, 8 p.m. (NBA TV)
Game 4: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Milwaukee, 3 p.m. (TNT)
Game 5*: Monday, Apr. 24 at Toronto, 7 p.m. (NBA TV)
Game 6*: Thursday, Apr. 27 at Milwaukee
Game 7*: Saturday, Apr. 29 at Toronto (TNT)
No. 4 Washington Wizards vs. No. 5 Atlanta Hawks
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Washington, 1 p.m. (TNT)
Game 2: Wednesday, Apr. 19 at Washington, 7 p.m. (NBA TV)
Game 3: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Atlanta, 5:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 4: Monday, Apr. 24 at Atlanta, 8 p.m. (TNT)
Game 5*: Wednesday, Apr. 26 at Washington
Game 6*: Friday, Apr. 28 at Atlanta
Game 7*: Sunday, Apr. 30 at Washington
Western Conference
No. 1 Golden State Warriors vs. No. 8 Portland Trail Blazers
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Golden State, 3:30 p.m. (ABC)
Game 2: Wednesday, Apr. 19 at Golden State, 10:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 3: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Portland, 10:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 4: Monday, Apr. 24 at Portland, 10:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 5*: Wednesday, Apr. 26 at Golden State
Game 6*: Friday, Apr. 28 at Portland
Game 7*: Sunday, Apr. 30 at Golden State
No. 2 San Antonio Spurs vs. No. 7 Memphis Grizzlies
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at San Antonio, 8 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 2: Monday, Apr. 17 at San Antonio, 9:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 3: Thursday, Apr. 20 at Memphis, 9:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 4: Saturday, Apr. 22 at Memphis, 8 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 5*: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at San Antonio
Game 6*: Thursday, Apr. 27 at Memphis
Game 7*: Saturday, Apr. 29 at San Antonio (TNT)
No. 3 Houston Rockets vs. No. 6 Oklahoma City Thunder
Game 1: Sunday, Apr. 16 at Houston, 9 p.m. (TNT)
Game 2: Wednesday, Apr. 19 at Houston, 8 p.m. (TNT)
Game 3: Friday, Apr. 21 at Oklahoma City, 9:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Oklahoma City, 3:30 p.m. (ABC)
Game 5*: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at Houston
Game 6*: Thursday, Apr. 27 at Oklahoma City
Game 7*: Saturday, Apr. 29 at Houston (TNT)
No. 4 Los Angeles Clippers vs. No. 5 Utah Jazz
Game 1: Saturday, Apr. 15 at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 2: Tuesday, Apr. 18 at Los Angeles. 10:30 p.m. (TNT)
Game 3: Friday, Apr. 21 at Utah, 10 p.m. (ESPN 2)
Game 4: Sunday, Apr. 23 at Utah, 9 p.m. (TNT)
Game 5*: Tuesday, Apr. 25 at Los Angeles
Game 6*: Friday, Apr. 28 at Utah
Game 7*: Sunday, Apr. 30 at Los Angeles
* = If Necessary
TP for the thread.
Halfway through the first quarter of game 1 the Cavs' D looks pretty suspect, the Pacers should take it to the rim on every possession. Plenty of bad defense on both sides here so far.
Indiana offensively is looking a lot better now than they did earlier in the season. Maybe they just needed time to incorporate their new players?
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Liking the Pacers' offense. Can't tell whether or not LeBron is coasting and will turn it up in the second half, but he hasn't done much. It's actually a pretty decent matchup. Loving the game so far.
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I am not sure the Pacers know what defense is. Lebron having his way offensively post moves, passing, etc.
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Good Lord, this Pacers D is atrocious, and the Cavs D isn't much better. Still just seems like the Cavs are covering up their defensive deficiencies with their good offense, but I don't think that they can get past Toronto like that.
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I'm usually pessimistic on beating the Cavs even if the C's got another star...but if we had George.....
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66-59 at halftime. Cavs shoot 61%, yet they're only up 7.
I could very well see Toronto knocking off Cleveland in the 2nd round this year with how bad their defense is.
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This all way too easy....Poor George has so much work :/
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Paul George is a beast. I would hate to see him as a Laker.
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Teague has not been good today.
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Paul George is awesome.
Why in the world would he want to go to the Lakers?
He and The Balls can "have" LA.
Boston has such a bright present AND future so it's inexplicable to me why PG would insist on going there, from what I've read.
Magic is great and all but he's not suiting up for them anytime soon - even though he'd probably be a good 6th man Point Guard for them even NOW.
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He is from Palmdale, he wants to go home.
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Paul George has also said he greatly admires the Celtics' team culture.
He may want to play for LA, but I suspect he would also welcome playing in Boston.
Paul George clearly wants to win, his best chance is to do that here.
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Indiana is awful.
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I dont understand why people act like its a foregone conclusion that Paul George becomes a laker. Weve seen this with like every major free agent and like 90% of them dont end up in LA.
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Indiana is awful.
Yes .....but LeBron is still,logging a lot of court time . Without him Cavs go no where.
That awful day is coming his way. As it does all of us .
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I dont understand why people act like its a foregone conclusion that Paul George becomes a laker. Weve seen this with like every major free agent and like 90% of them dont end up in LA.
I hope I'm wrong and you're right.
Magic Johnson can sell a thirsty man a glass of sand in a desert, though. He has that kind of allure.
The man was successful IN Basketball and OUT of it. Dr. Jerry Buss (RIP) reportedly said that he hoped that both he and Jeannie would run the Lakers one day and here we are.
Deja Vu.
As much as I love Magic for the person AND player he is I would not be surprised if he could lure PG13 but I sincerely hope I'm wrong and you're right.
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Thing. Is we can't pull a NY Knicks trade like they did with Melo ...give 85 percent of their best players away to acquire him.....then it s all for nothing for him.
That's Danny's problem , how to get George type,player without trading Smart , Crowder Zizic and Brown, It and Horford.
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Come on Pacers, win this game!
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Tied game three mins left!
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LeBum James flopping left and right to get calls SMH
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LeBum James flopping left and right to get calls SMH
Whelp might as well get used to it .
He ll flop and whine his way as far as he can get
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Do we want the Raptors to win this series? Seems like that can put up a decent fight against the cavs.
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Indiana gave Cleveland all they could handle tonight. Miles had a decent look at a game winner, too. That one easily could've gone the other way.
If Cleveland can't get their defense straightened out, they might not make it past Toronto.
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CJ Miles misses game-winner, Cavs win 109-108.
Cavs lead series 1-0...ugh.
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Do we want the Raptors to win this series? Seems like that can put up a decent fight against the cavs.
I would think so. Boston's best shot against the Cavs would be a tired Cavs team vs a rested Celtics team
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Do we want the Raptors to win this series? Seems like that can put up a decent fight against the cavs.
If LeBron even sprains a toe or pinky , Cavs could fall. He needs Lady Luck to kiss his behind .
Raps can tkake down the King . He need to play 40 minutes plus every game full out non human effort. ..and may not pull it off.
Remember he needs help , and money and more of everything and of course he owns the refs .
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CJ Miles misses game-winner, Cavs win 109-108.
Cavs lead series 1-0...ugh.
and Paul George gives up the ball...when he should have driven to the basket....weak.
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CJ Miles misses game-winner, Cavs win 109-108.
Cavs lead series 1-0...ugh.
and Paul George gives up the ball...when he should have driven to the basket....weak.
He was double-teamed, CJ was wide open. That's the smart play.
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CJ Miles misses game-winner, Cavs win 109-108.
Cavs lead series 1-0...ugh.
and Paul George gives up the ball...when he should have driven to the basket....weak.
He was double-teamed, CJ was wide open. That's the smart play.
Not at first...he should have drove right away---before the double team came...watch it again.
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CJ Miles misses game-winner, Cavs win 109-108.
Cavs lead series 1-0...ugh.
and Paul George gives up the ball...when he should have driven to the basket....weak.
He was double-teamed, CJ was wide open. That's the smart play.
Not at first...he should have drove right away---before the double team came...watch it again.
Playing the clock to ensure they had the last shot. He drives too early, Cavs get the ball right back.
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CJ Miles misses game-winner, Cavs win 109-108.
Cavs lead series 1-0...ugh.
and Paul George gives up the ball...when he should have driven to the basket....weak.
He was double-teamed, CJ was wide open. That's the smart play.
Not at first...he should have drove right away---before the double team came...watch it again.
They wanted to take the last shot.
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Did I ever tell you how happy I was to not play the Bucks in the first round?
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The number 1 seed was huge, the Pacers and the Bucks look darn tough.
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The number 1 seed was huge, the Pacers and the Bucks look darn tough.
As will be the Bulls
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I'm pretty glad to not have to face either George or Giannis in the playoffs!
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I'm pretty glad to not have to face either George or Giannis in the playoffs!
We have to face Butler :(
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I'm pretty glad to not have to face either George or Giannis in the playoffs!
We have to face Butler :(
Yea Ill take that trade off any day.
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Malcolm Brogdon is a really solid player, nice all around game.
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Raptors having that traditional letdown in game 1, courtesy of Kyle Lowry.
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The Bucks are the C's toughest threat in the future.
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Funny, I'm not seeing all of that Raptor fan arrogance on Twitter right now ;D
Hopefully Toronto, Cleveland, AND Washington can all have long series with us having a short series.
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The Greek Freak is amazing.
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The number 1 seed was huge, the Pacers and the Bucks look darn tough.
As will be the Bulls
I doubt it. That team is badly constructed and also matches up poorly against us.
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Get a Rebounder/shotblocker to play Center and get Shooters/Scorers 1-3 and the Bucks are all set to go.
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The number 1 seed was huge, the Pacers and the Bucks look darn tough.
As will be the Bulls
I doubt it. That team is badly constructed and also matches up poorly against us.
In light of recent (and tragic) news, I'm not sure the Celts will now get past the Bulls.
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Greg Monroe is in the process of making himself a great deal of money.
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The Greek Freak is amazing.
Man he's going to tear this league up for years to come. MVP's in his future.
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The number 1 seed was huge, the Pacers and the Bucks look darn tough.
As will be the Bulls
I doubt it. That team is badly constructed and also matches up poorly against us.
In light of recent (and tragic) news, I'm not sure the Celts will now get past the Bulls.
Terrible new for IT and his family, but the Celtics will be fine as a team and I don't see him missing much time if any.
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Why do they still have Greek freak in the game? They won. Get the garbage minutes in
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That might be the weakest Technical foul I've ever seen. Derozan is over there butt hurt lol
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How did Milwaukee quietly get so good?
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That's not a technical. That's a crappy call.
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How did Milwaukee quietly get so good?
Middleton came back and got in game shape, and Brogdon and Maker developed.
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How did Milwaukee quietly get so good?
Middleton came back and got in game shape, and Brogdon and Maker developed.
And Giannis went from cool prospect to good to supernova.
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How did Milwaukee quietly get so good?
Middleton came back and got in game shape, and Brogdon and Maker developed.
Yep. Middleton's return was a big deal for them, even with the loss of Parker. If they have a fully healthy team to put on the floor next season, they're going to be very interesting. Good on them for stealing game 1.
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How is Vince Carter still playing basketball.
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How is Vince Carter still playing basketball.
Because He's "half man half amazing" that's how
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LeBron has now won 18 (!) straight 1st round games, and the Raptors have lost 9 straight Game 1s.
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What happened to Memphis? I stop watching for 'a minute' and the lead is 29?
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I'm pretty glad to not have to face either George or Giannis in the playoffs!
We have to face Butler :(
Yea Ill take that trade off any day.
But now we might have to face Butler and the Bulls without IT4 for the first few games because of that tragic accident with his sister. Even if he does play, those feelings will loom large and it's usually tough to overcome such a problem the first few days of it.
The boys need to put up 20pts each game if they want to win.
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What happened to Memphis? I stop watching for 'a minute' and the lead is 29?
The Spurs happened.
Memphis scores 30 in the first. And then like 40-something in the next 3 quarters. Danny Green has snuffed the life out of Conley.
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Time for the other series that supposedly matters to us! Clips v. Jazz
Who are you rooting to lose? Blake or Hayward? Lol
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LeBron has now won 18 (!) straight 1st round games, and the Raptors have lost 9 straight Game 1s.
I am soooo glad we aren't playing the Bucks in the 1st round. That is a bad matchup for us. Not sure it isn't a bad matchup for the Cavs as well.
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Time for the other series that supposedly matters to us! Clips v. Jazz
Who are you rooting to lose? Blake or Hayward? Lol
Clippers got the edge here. Regardless, once they get past the first-round they will get swept by their next obvious opponent.
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Time for the other series that supposedly matters to us! Clips v. Jazz
Who are you rooting to lose? Blake or Hayward? Lol
I'd love to sign Hayward, so part of me wants Utah to lose. But then I remember how much I can't stand the whiny Clippers and want them to be reminded that they're the bootleg LA team they are.
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This should be a fun game. Unfortunately, I'm only going to be able to watch the first half hour or so :(.
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Oh no Gobert!
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
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Clips catch a break. Gobert gets injured on the FIRST play. Literally, the first 24 seconds of the game.
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
Knee injury on the first possession of the game. He had to be helped off.
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
Banged knees with Mbah a Moute pretty hard while setting an off ball screen for Hayward. Gobert goes down and can't get up so he crawls on the floor trying to get back on defense. Jazz take a foul and Gobert is helped up and hobbles to the back. Seems like he can't put weight on it.
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
Knee injury on the first possession of the game. He had to be helped off.
That's terrible. He came back in a big way from his injury last year.
And the Jazz have been doing everything right, and this happens as soon as their first playoff series starts?
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
Banged knees with Mbah a Moute pretty hard while setting an off ball screen for Hayward. Gobert goes down and can't get up so he crawls on the floor trying to get back on defense. Jazz take a foul and Gobert is helped up and hobbles to the back. Seems like he can't put weight on it.
That really sucks! Hopefully after some rest and testing, it won't be as bad as it looked.
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I have no idea who to root for in this Clippers/Jazz matchup.
A Jazz loss would help with the Hayward chase certainly, but not having HCA, they're expected to lose, which might not be enough of a blow for Hayward to leave.
On the other hand, a loss by the Clippers would almost make big changes this summer inevitable, and Griffin is the prime suspect to change teams. And if he doesn't re-up with LA, then I think we have to be the front-runners for him.
Blake is a much better fit here with our current needs, too, so I'm going to be rooting for a Jazz series win.
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
Banged knees with Mbah a Moute pretty hard while setting an off ball screen for Hayward. Gobert goes down and can't get up so he crawls on the floor trying to get back on defense. Jazz take a foul and Gobert is helped up and hobbles to the back. Seems like he can't put weight on it.
Might be an ACL.
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Oh no Gobert!
What happened?
Knee injury on the first possession of the game. He had to be helped off.
That's terrible. He came back in a big way from his injury last year.
And the Jazz have been doing everything right, and this happens as soon as their first playoff series starts?
Yep. And one would assume that the implications could be far-reaching if he were to miss the entire series. Hayward leaving would be franchise-crippling.
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I have no idea who to root for in this Clippers/Jazz matchup.
A Jazz loss would help with the Hayward chase certainly, but not having HCA, they're expected to lose, which might not be enough of a blow for Hayward to leave.
On the other hand, a loss by the Clippers would almost make big changes this summer inevitable, and Griffin is the prime suspect to change teams. And if he doesn't re-up with LA, then I think we have to be the front-runners for him.
Blake is a much better fit here with our current needs, too, so I'm going to be rooting for a Jazz series win.
Yeah, I think I'd rather have Blake here too. He's got 3 point range now and he handles the ball like a guard. We'd have the most versatile frontcourt in the game with Horford and Blake.
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I have no idea who to root for in this Clippers/Jazz matchup.
A Jazz loss would help with the Hayward chase certainly, but not having HCA, they're expected to lose, which might not be enough of a blow for Hayward to leave.
On the other hand, a loss by the Clippers would almost make big changes this summer inevitable, and Griffin is the prime suspect to change teams. And if he doesn't re-up with LA, then I think we have to be the front-runners for him.
Blake is a much better fit here with our current needs, too, so I'm going to be rooting for a Jazz series win.
I'd say root for LAC to win then get eviscerated by GSW. Hayward would be upset with a lack of progress, while Blake would feel capped by the West.
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Left knee sprain (won't return) for Gobert. Judging by the vagueness of the diagnosis and swiftness with which they ruled him out, I'm not expecting to see Gobert until the 2017-18 season.
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Either way, its a win-win series for us. Clips losing in the first round could end this current core's run. Jazz losing in the first round could convince Hayward to play in Boston.
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Jeesh. Blake would be a nice signing, but he just looks awful sometimes.
His game is actually similar to Horford, but he isn't as clever as Horford.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
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Jazz is lowkey deep. They have Favors to take Gobert's place
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JJ with the game winner!!
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Joe Johnson with the game winner. Clippers go down hard....
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Joe Johnson! Turning back the hands of time!
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I thought Joe Johnson was about cooked. He just put them to bed. LAC needs to figure their Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. out in the playoffs.
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Refs almost screwed the Jazz with that late foul call that sent Favors to the line. Favors passed the ball before the foul.
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Refs almost screwed the Jazz with that late foul call that sent Favors to the line. Favors passed the ball before the foul.
I thought it was a fine call. The foul was on the pass.
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how can the foul be on the pass?
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
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All I know is I want nothing to do with blake griffin on the Celtics. His 4th quarter and fg numbers have been terrible
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Good point about DJ he is not a superstar.
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how can the foul be on the pass?
When you shove a guy as he's passing the ball, that's a foul. If that happened in the 1st quarter, you could call that foul on Blake and not bat an eye
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how can the foul be on the pass?
When you shove a guy as he's passing the ball, that's a foul. If that happened in the 1st quarter, you could call that foul on Blake and not bat an eye
You cannot just shove a guy who has already passed the ball after the 2:00 mark. My point is that Favors got rid of the ball before the foul.
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am I reading too much into CP3 leaving the presser when they started to question Blake? maybe it has happened b4 but I don't remember it or I missed it. I do remember guys who go in together usually leave at the same time. it seemed as if he was forced to go out there with Blake by Doc, like a show unity type thing but CP3 wasn't really feeling it. Blake did have a no-show 2nd half too.
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how can the foul be on the pass?
When you shove a guy as he's passing the ball, that's a foul. If that happened in the 1st quarter, you could call that foul on Blake and not bat an eye
You cannot just shove a guy who has already passed the ball after the 2:00 mark. My point is that Favors got rid of the ball before the foul.
You cannot foul "away from the play". It's not whether he is holding the ball or not. Griffin fouled him when he made the pass. I took a screen cap and I wish I could show you but I don't know how to paste it here.
Point is, that wasnt a particularly bad or suspicious call from the refs. Now, they could've swallowed their whistle and called the foul on DJ against Ingles, but they called the Griffin foul instead.
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How did Milwaukee quietly get so good?
The outside shooting of Middleton, Snell, and Brogdon is huge for that team. Giannis is still solvable since he is a horrendous outside shooter. Surrounded by shooting, that problem goes away.
I wouldn't put too much into Game 1 though because Toronto played awful and Lowry played worse.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
This....
definitely no HOF material for DJ. I agree that the Clippers messed it up when they pursued the guy who was already going to Dallas but changed minds when they locked him up...talk about karma and since then they have never made it passed round 2.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
This....
definitely no HOF material for DJ. I agree that the Clippers messed it up when they pursued the guy who was already going to Dallas but changed minds when they locked him up...talk about karma and since then they have never made it passed round 2.
They really should've traded Jordan for a good SG and a backup C (eg. Trade him for Crabbe and Mason Plumlee last summer)
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
This....
definitely no HOF material for DJ. I agree that the Clippers messed it up when they pursued the guy who was already going to Dallas but changed minds when they locked him up...talk about karma and since then they have never made it passed round 2.
Gosh he'd be transformational with our guys.
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How did Milwaukee quietly get so good?
The outside shooting of Middleton, Snell, and Brogdon is huge for that team. Giannis is still solvable since he is a horrendous outside shooter. Surrounded by shooting, that problem goes away.
I wouldn't put too much into Game 1 though because Toronto played awful and Lowry played worse.
Their length is a factor on the defensive end as well.
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Hawks look asleep playing the wizards so far
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Hawks look asleep playing the wizards so far
Hawks starting lineup lacks secondary playmakers in the half court. Not that great a perimeter shooting bunch either.
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Is it me or does dwight look like he is moving better than he has in years?
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am I reading too much into CP3 leaving the presser when they started to question Blake? maybe it has happened b4 but I don't remember it or I missed it. I do remember guys who go in together usually leave at the same time. it seemed as if he was forced to go out there with Blake by Doc, like a show unity type thing but CP3 wasn't really feeling it. Blake did have a no-show 2nd half too.
An NBA writer on the Jim Rome show said that Blake, Jordan, and CP3 don't great along, and that generally the whole team dislikes CP3.
Apparently he is aloof towards his teammates most of the time and spends little time bonding with them, but isn't hesitant to rip them hard when they make mistakes.
He is closer to his superstar Olympic teammates than he is his Clipper teammates.
It is kind of like Kobe during his last few years with the Lakers, except CP3 doesn't have the championship pedigree, and it really rubs a lot of guys the wrong way.
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Is it me or does dwight look like he is moving better than he has in years?
More active and engaged, less explosive leaping.
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am I reading too much into CP3 leaving the presser when they started to question Blake? maybe it has happened b4 but I don't remember it or I missed it. I do remember guys who go in together usually leave at the same time. it seemed as if he was forced to go out there with Blake by Doc, like a show unity type thing but CP3 wasn't really feeling it. Blake did have a no-show 2nd half too.
An NBA writer on the Jim Rome show said that Blake, Jordan, and CP3 don't great along, and that generally the whole team dislikes CP3.
Apparently he is aloof towards his teammates most of the time and spends little time bonding with them, but isn't hesitant to rip them hard when they make mistakes.
He is closer to his superstar Olympic teammates than he is his Clipper teammates.
It is kind of like Kobe during his last few years with the Lakers, except CP3 doesn't have the championship pedigree, and it really rubs a lot of guys the wrong way.
It thought it was well known that CP3 didn't have the best relationship with Blake and DJ. That's a big reason why DJ almost bolted to Dallas. I get Kobe vibes from Chris Paul - great player, not the best social skills.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
He is an All-Star and is paid like an All-Star. Picking the worst big-men All-Stars you can find and saying "see" is not a debate. And no one is saying DJ is Shaq.
The Clippers problem is that Blake Griffin is no longer a dominant player.
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Portland is keeping up with the Warriors, so far. CJ is putting on a show 27 points at the half.
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Draymond Green is extremely good at basketball.
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To think Draymond may never win a DPOY is crazy. After seeing us neutralize Gobert with relative ease, Draymond was the clear choice IMO, but I'm not sure he beat out Gobert :(.
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yeah when you are allowed to get away with fouls .... a defensive player of year is not far away.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
He is an All-Star and is paid like an All-Star. Picking the worst big-men All-Stars you can find and saying "see" is not a debate. And no one is saying DJ is Shaq.
The Clippers problem is that Blake Griffin is no longer a dominant player.
1. Jordan has made the All-Star team ONCE, yet he's paid essentially the same as Griffin and Paul.
2. Providing examples to illustrate a point has been considered a valid form of argument for millennia.
3. The Clippers haven't just underperformed this season. They've underformed EVERY SINGLE SEASON they've had Paul, Griffin and Jordan.
4. I could go into more detail on the salary cap and on court problems that flow from treating Jordan like he's a lot better than he is, but I get the sense you are committed to deliberately not understanding any of them.
Mike
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
He is an All-Star and is paid like an All-Star. Picking the worst big-men All-Stars you can find and saying "see" is not a debate. And no one is saying DJ is Shaq.
The Clippers problem is that Blake Griffin is no longer a dominant player.
1. Jordan has made the All-Star team ONCE, yet he's paid essentially the same as Griffin and Paul.
2. Providing examples to illustrate a point has been considered a valid form of argument for millennia.
3. The Clippers haven't just underperformed this season. They've underformed EVERY SINGLE SEASON they've had Paul, Griffin and Jordan.
4. I could go into more detail on the salary cap and on court problems that flow from treating Jordan like he's a lot better than he is, but I get the sense you are committed to deliberately not understanding any of them.
Mike
You need a wing or SG to be one of the three to be great. And a PG that pass first like Rondo.
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My boy Paul George showing up per usual against the best.
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My boy Paul George showing up per usual against the best.
If we had traded for him, we'd be legit contenders. He's carrying that Pacers team all on his own.
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I see him carrying them all the way to being swept by Cavs.
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My boy Paul George showing up per usual against the best.
If we had traded for him, we'd be legit contenders. He's carrying that Pacers team all on his own.
This team will have shorter window, though.
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My boy Paul George showing up per usual against the best.
If we had traded for him, we'd be legit contenders. He's carrying that Pacers team all on his own.
This team will have shorter window, though.
Not much shorter, PG3 and IT are not old, they are not like Pierce, KG and Ray when they were put together. Horford is, but he's not the key guy that those 3 where. PG3, IT, and Hayward would get it done for many years with guys like Bradley , Smart and Zizic around them.
A younger core wouldn't have a much longer window either. They would need several years to develop into legit NBA contenders, if that even happens.
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I see him carrying them all the way to being swept by Cavs.
As opposed to losing to the Hawks or Bulls?
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My boy Paul George showing up per usual against the best.
If we had traded for him, we'd be legit contenders. He's carrying that Pacers team all on his own.
This team will have shorter window, though.
Not much shorter, PG3 and IT are not old, they are not like Pierce, KG and Ray when they were put together. Horford is, but he's not the key guy that those 3 where. PG3, IT, and Hayward would get it done for many years with guys like Bradley , Smart and Zizic around them.
A younger core wouldn't have a much longer window either. They would need several years to develop into legit NBA contenders, if that even happens.
Those young core will reach their potential around the age of 22-25. It won't be that long to develop, especially when they don't have to play on a crappy franchise.
Look at the age of many star players today:
Davis - 24
Giannis - 22
Kyrie - 24
Klay was 25 when they won it all
KD was 24 when he won the MVP
Lebron was 24 when he won his first MVP
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I see him carrying them all the way to being swept by Cavs.
As opposed to losing to the Hawks or Bulls?
exactly, he clearly does not move the needle.
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The main problem with PG13 trades is that he's an expiring.
Zero chance Boston trades for him unless he agrees to a long term commitment (highly unlikely).
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So Cavs defended home court. Now their playoff series really begin.
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If they lose this game at home and with Gobert out? Wow. Talk about choking.
The Clippers have had so many excuses over the years but the reality is they're just not a great team. A very good team but if they had gotten a few breaks over the years, they just would have lost to LeBron in the Finals. The fundamental problem is they overvalued Jordan and that affected every other decision they've made constructing their roster. They've acted like he's their third superstar but he's really not.
Mike
He was an All-Star this year.
Know who else has been an All-Star? Tyson Chandler, Chris Kaman, Jamaal Magloire, Mehmet Okur and Theo Ratliff. That's where Jordan belongs. He's not in that top tier with guys like Shaq or Patrick Ewing. He's not even in the second tier with guys like Alonzo Mourning or Rik Smits.
He's in that third tier, but the Clippers have paid him and built their team like he's lock for the hall of fame.
Mike
He is an All-Star and is paid like an All-Star. Picking the worst big-men All-Stars you can find and saying "see" is not a debate. And no one is saying DJ is Shaq.
The Clippers problem is that Blake Griffin is no longer a dominant player.
4. I could go into more detail on the salary cap and on court problems that flow from treating Jordan like he's a lot better than he is, but I get the sense you are committed to deliberately not understanding any of them.
Mike
Please do. Seriously, state your case Mike because I think you have no idea what you are talking about right now.
I would love to see you justify this point considering they were already over the cap when they re-signed him which means it was give him the money or... don't. There was no alternative, it was give DeAndre the money or don't spend it at all. That isn't money you can then spend on other players.
He's an offensive force, a phenomenal rebounder, plays within himself, and is a mobile shot blocker. He's a very good player, being paid like a very good player. Artificial max contracts mean that guys worth 80 million get paid 25, guys worth 50 get paid 25, and guys worth 25 get paid 25. (those are estimates, but you get the point in terms of the max contract's impact). DeAndre gets paid what he is worth, he probably does not exceed that much but he's not overpaid by any stretch.
Doc giving away draft picks, trading for guys who had a good game against him once, dumping Bledsoe cuz reasons, getting bamboozled into taking his son because Ainge was D League-ing him, and generally not having any idea how to run a franchise are why they are where they are.
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I see him carrying them all the way to being swept by Cavs.
As opposed to losing to the Hawks or Bulls?
exactly, he clearly does not move the needle.
I don't think you get it, but that's ok.
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Kawhi made history and went 19-19 from free throw tonight
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The Grizz are cooked and need to blow it up. They will never win with that offense
And that Chandler Parsons contract... good god...
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The Grizz are cooked and need to blow it up. They will never win with that offense
And that Chandler Parsons contract... good god...
Don't tell that to Clueless Chris Vernon.
He still thinks they should chug along as a fringe playoff team.
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The Grizz are cooked and need to blow it up. They will never win with that offense
And that Chandler Parsons contract... good god...
Not yet. We can't convey their pick if the team becomes very bad.
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The Grizz are cooked and need to blow it up. They will never win with that offense
And that Chandler Parsons contract... good god...
Don't tell that to Clueless Chris Vernon.
He still thinks they should chug along as a fringe playoff team.
When The Ringer's NBA podcast picked up Chris Vernon, I was really interested in a "Hey, who's this guy?" way, but after a few weeks I had to stop listening. I can't stand his obnoxious radio voice and I don't think I ever heard him give an interesting, original insight.
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You can't underestimate how much the city of Memphis loves that "Grit 'N Grind" team after the Grizz were a joke for most of their existence.
They've got Conley and Gasol, and as long as they have those two, they'll be a competitive team for at least another 3-4 seasons.
It may not make sense to fans of Boston-area teams, but in some markets being competitive and likable year after year carries a lot of value.
Same analysis applies to the Hawks, though they're obviously not nearly as beloved in Atlanta.
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No Durant tonight for GS, does Portland have a chance to tie it up?
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The Grizz are cooked and need to blow it up. They will never win with that offense
And that Chandler Parsons contract... good god...
Don't tell that to Clueless Chris Vernon.
He still thinks they should chug along as a fringe playoff team.
When The Ringer's NBA podcast picked up Chris Vernon, I was really interested in a "Hey, who's this guy?" way, but after a few weeks I had to stop listening. I can't stand his obnoxious radio voice and I don't think I ever heard him give an interesting, original insight.
"Well whaddaya think Kevin is it over for the Celts?"
So that's his name omg that guy is so annoying lol
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Russell Westbrook just took another stat sheet dump with 51 points on 43 shots . To put that in perspective King chucker himself Kobe Bryant only took 46 shot when he scored 81 points!
I don't care what people say about how bad his teammates are, look what Heat did with ball movement and a D-League roster...I pray that people haven't fallen for his rubbish in the MVP vote.
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Forgot we had a playoff thread.
That game was like a microcosm of Good Westbrook and Bad Westbrook, and to a lesser degree good and bad Harden. But deeper in the game it was more good Harden and bad Westbrook. He was brilliant most of the game but no excuse for the blatant ballhogging and forcing plays down the stretch.
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Russell Westbrook just took another stat sheet dump with 51 points on 43 shots . To put that in perspective King chucker himself Kobe Bryant only took 46 shot when he scored 81 points!
I don't care what people say about how bad his teammates are, look what Heat did with ball movement and a D-League roster...I pray that people haven't fallen for his rubbish in the MVP vote.
I feel the same way. He's such an amazing specimen to behold on the court that it's easy to forget that he's made the guys around him play worse, not better.
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Overall all the series have been interesting to watch besides ours and SAS/Memphis.
The one I am keeping an eye on is LAC/Utah. Because of Griffin and Hayward. I know if we lose in the first round we look less appealing but still......
IF Utah loses there is a better chance of Hayward leaving and same goes for Balke if Clippers lose.
I like Hayward a lot BUT I think I want the Clips to lose because they could blow it up. CP3 and Blake could leave which opens the door to DeAndre being traded. Now if I were to dream I would want to sign Griffin and trade for George(Crowder, Bradley, BKN pick).
In the end I am just trying to distract myself from the celtics current situation
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I hope the team is watching the Pacers right now
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Man, the Cavs look shell-shocked right now like Boston did the first two games.
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Cavs give up 74 points in the first half in a playoff game. Wow.
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Man, why couldn't we get the Cavs ;D
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Paul George = good
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I'd love to see the Celtics come out with this same fire Indiana is showing in Game 3.
Looking away at WHERE they are playing (I know we are on the road and Indiana is at home now), everyone ruled out Indiana after Game 2 saying they couldn't finish games and they were going down in a simple 5 games, and look at this response.
Celtics need to have a similar game tomorrow night.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
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The Bucks plays big just like the Bulls. I don't think Ibaka could have solved our rebounding woes.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
Ibaka with 0 rebounds in 12 minutes. People on here would be screaming for Danny's head if he traded a 1st for a rental on Ibaka and got this...
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
And I got blasted for saying in one thread next to Cavs .....the team that would give us the most trouble is the new better Bucks with Middleton .
The Bucks might just have what it takes t beat Cavs too.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
And I got blasted for saying in one thread next to Cavs .....the team that would give us the most trouble is the new better Bucks with Middleton .
The Bucks might just have what it takes t beat Cavs too.
They could. I would still take Cleveland, but it would certainly take 6, maybe 7 games.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
Ibaka with 0 rebounds in 12 minutes. People on here would be screaming for Danny's head if he traded a 1st for a rental on Ibaka and got this...
Even if his price was "high", could have had Noel, or Nurkic for fairly cheap.
Noel is also a FA this summer so in a sense you could have had a "first hand look" at him before the summer.
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Wow Pacers are choking this.
Now it's 87-77, lead down to 10. 2 minutes left in 3rd.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
Ibaka with 0 rebounds in 12 minutes. People on here would be screaming for Danny's head if he traded a 1st for a rental on Ibaka and got this...
Even if his price was "high", could have had Noel, or Nurkic for fairly cheap.
Noel is also a FA this summer so in a sense you could have had a "first hand look" at him before the summer.
They both would've been rentals if the goal is to clear cap this summer for a run at a Max player...
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Cavs vs Pacers is 5 point game now! Ouch!
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The Bucks are literally up by 30 points in the 2nd quarter.
50 to 20.
LOL.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
Ibaka with 0 rebounds in 12 minutes. People on here would be screaming for Danny's head if he traded a 1st for a rental on Ibaka and got this...
Even if his price was "high", could have had Noel, or Nurkic for fairly cheap.
Noel is also a FA this summer so in a sense you could have had a "first hand look" at him before the summer.
Neither are little Brad's system type players, so they will never be Cs.
He ONLY wants bigs who can spread the floor.
In retrospect, KO is a Brad type player. The Greek Freak, not so much back then. Now that pick makes sense to me as to why it happened.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
Ibaka with 0 rebounds in 12 minutes. People on here would be screaming for Danny's head if he traded a 1st for a rental on Ibaka and got this...
Even if his price was "high", could have had Noel, or Nurkic for fairly cheap.
Noel is also a FA this summer so in a sense you could have had a "first hand look" at him before the summer.
Neither are little Brad's system type players, so they will never be Cs.
He ONLY wants bigs who can spread the floor.
In retrospect, KO is a Brad type player. The Greek Freak, not so much back then. Now that pick makes sense to me as to why it happened.
Well, as we're seeing, that pretty much won't work in the post season.
Chicago is showing us that right now.
Milwaukee, Atlanta and Indiana can use their size to intimidate us, and even Philly could be on the verge in a few years with their size as well. Celtics need to counter and there needs to be some bruiser in here who can rebound and play interior defense.
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Toronto traded two 1st rounders just to get beaten in the 1st round by the Bucks.
Lol and the Raptors are now down 39-15. WOOF.
Ibaka with 0 rebounds in 12 minutes. People on here would be screaming for Danny's head if he traded a 1st for a rental on Ibaka and got this...
Even if his price was "high", could have had Noel, or Nurkic for fairly cheap.
Noel is also a FA this summer so in a sense you could have had a "first hand look" at him before the summer.
Neither are little Brad's system type players, so they will never be Cs.
He ONLY wants bigs who can spread the floor.
In retrospect, KO is a Brad type player. The Greek Freak, not so much back then. Now that pick makes sense to me as to why it happened.
Well, as we're seeing, that pretty much won't work in the post season.
Chicago is showing us that right now.
Milwaukee, Atlanta and Indiana can use their size to intimidate us, and even Philly could be on the verge in a few years with their size as well. Celtics need to counter and there needs to be some bruiser in here who can rebound and play interior defense.
Hope Little Brad starts to get it: Butler-ball WILL NOT WIN with the big boys in the NBA.
And he better learn to put his big boy pants on and coach "difficult" players.
Little Brad afraid of the Boogie man. Thtat's why he is not here.
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Wow! The Raptors are getting flat out crushed!!
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baby smack james
get up
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Pacers lead down to 5. WOW.
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Wow! The Raptors are getting flat out crushed!!
And they mortgaged their future for this playoff run. Yikes!
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Pacers lead down to 5. WOW.
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Wow! The Raptors are getting flat out crushed!!
And they mortgaged their future for this playoff run. Yikes!
And that's the difference between a good GM and an average GM. Ainge knew his team wouldn't contend this year even if he made a few trades. If he had traded for some of these guys and we were still getting crushed in the playoffs everyone would blame him for ruining our chemistry and wasting our draft picks on rentals.
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So does Paul George get sick of everything after Indiana loses this game and possibly get swept... enough to demand a trade to Boston this summer and agree to a long term commitment? :laugh:
UPDATE: Cavaliers lead and wow, looks like now Indiana will get blown out
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Imagine being a raps fan. Like being a Celts fan without Nets picks to feel good about.
And the Cavs... Ugh, I can't tell you how sick I am of the cavs playing basketball like I treated junior year of high school and yet continue to win in the playoffs.
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Pacers vs Cavs tied.
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So does Paul George get sick of everything after Indiana loses this game and possibly get swept... enough to demand a trade to Boston this summer and agree to a long term commitment? :laugh:
(oops double post, my bad. this site is lagging for me a bit lol)
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Pacers vs Cavs tied.
Now Pacers up 1.
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Wow! The Raptors are getting flat out crushed!!
And they mortgaged their future for this playoff run. Yikes!
And that's the difference between a good GM and an average GM. Ainge knew his team wouldn't contend this year even if he made a few trades. If he had traded for some of these guys and we were still getting crushed in the playoffs everyone would blame him for ruining our chemistry and wasting our draft picks on rentals.
Totally. GM has to see the big picture!
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Lol this Pacers D might be as bad as the Cavs D.
And Indy might be just as reliant on PG offensively as Boston is with IT's offense.
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So does Paul George get sick of everything after Indiana loses this game and possibly get swept... enough to demand a trade to Boston this summer and agree to a long term commitment? :laugh:
From your lips to the basketball gods' ears!!!!!!!!!
Then add Griffin/Hayward/Milsap/JaMychal Green/Noel in FA, and we are cookin'!!!!!!
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Lol this Pacers D might be as bad as the Cavs D.
And Indy might be just as reliant on PG offensively as Boston is with IT's offense.
Now combine PG13 and IT on the same team and that solves everything for us ;D
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So does Paul George get sick of everything after Indiana loses this game and possibly get swept... enough to demand a trade to Boston this summer and agree to a long term commitment? :laugh:
From your lips to the basketball gods' ears!!!!!!!!!
Then add Griffin/Hayward/Milsap/JaMychal Green/Noel in FA, and we are cookin'!!!!!!
It will be hard cap-wise. I think it definitely means Bradley, Fultz/Jackson, AND Crowder are all gone, BUT maybe Ainge is watching the C's and believes losing those guys won't hurt as much if it means that happens^
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Lebron quite impressive tonight, I have to admit.
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Lol this Pacers D might be as bad as the Cavs D.
And Indy might be just as reliant on PG offensively as Boston is with IT's offense.
Now combine PG13 and IT on the same team and that solves everything for us ;D
I think he's the guy they came close on at the trade deadline, and they are confident that deal will be there in June.
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Lol this Pacers D might be as bad as the Cavs D.
And Indy might be just as reliant on PG offensively as Boston is with IT's offense.
Now combine PG13 and IT on the same team and that solves everything for us ;D
I think he's the guy they came close on at the trade deadline, and they are confident that deal will be there in June.
I think that trade is going to be easier for both teams after the playoffs.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
I feel the same he's not likable!
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Lol PG is definitely gone after this series. He can't get any help on either side of the ball.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
There's an air of entitlement that I just can't get past.
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Miles Turner did his best Olynyk impression down the stretch tonight.
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I hate call reversals like that. They miss a blatant foul that causes the ball to go out on PG, then they reward Cleveland with it. So Indy gets screwed twice there due to a missed call.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
Maybe because a self-entitled prick, everything is handed to him by his team. Bolt his way out for easier rings then leaves them when he know the ship is sinking.
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Toronto might have to go rebuild next, yeesh!
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Yeah but it's not just that, it's an aesthetic and on-court personality thing.
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The 2016-2017 Playoffs so far in a nutshell:
Curry / Durant / Dray > Lillard & CJ
Kawhi > Marc & Mike
Harden > Westbrook
Bron > PG
Giannis > Lowry & Demar
Jimmy B > Isaiah
Wall > the Hawks
The one exception is Clips / Jazz.
I guess basketball is simple sometimes.
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To everyone who responded to my post about Paul George to Boston:
The main problem is the contract + his love for the Lakers. He's an expiring so Ainge won't pay a premium for a guy who is an expiring, and if his heart is really set for LA LA Land, it's doubtful he agrees to a long term commitment in a trade to Boston.
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Miles Turner did his best Olynyk impression down the stretch tonight.
Uh oh, did Kevin Love lose another arm? Dude's gonna look like Vader soon
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
There's an air of entitlement that I just can't get past.
Somehow the entitlement comes out in the way he plays the game. Like he believes he's meant to win every game and dominate every opponent.
But how is that a bad thing? He's a great player.
I mean, I dislike his tendency toward bully ball. Just put his head down and bowl his way to the basket. But he's such a great passer and he's developed a post game and his jumpshot is really good now.
The bias must be in me, not so much any flaw in LeBron, but I just can't get to the point where I enjoy seeing the guy win.
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I think it's safe to say tonight is the night the Pacers lost Paul George.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
There's an air of entitlement that I just can't get past.
Somehow the entitlement comes out in the way he plays the game. Like he believes he's meant to win every game and dominate every opponent.
But how is that a bad thing? He's a great player.
I mean, I dislike his tendency toward bully ball. Just put his head down and bowl his way to the basket. But he's such a great passer and he's developed a post game and his jumpshot is really good now.
The bias must be in me, not so much any flaw in LeBron, but I just can't get to the point where I enjoy seeing the guy win.
It's tough to pin down because LeBron does not have a sense of entitlement in that he expects stuff to be handed to him. Dude has busted his behind for everything he's got. But he does expect everything to work out for him and if it doesn't, he reacts like some global injustice has occurred.
It's really aggravating but, to be fair, if KG had that same sense of entitlement he would have bolted Minnesota much sooner and might have a few more rings.
Mike
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Well, I'd say that pretty much seals George being traded this offseason. How our series ends and the lottery will determine if he comes here or not.
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Did you see the difference between Bucks and our offense? Open men are driving to the rim for more efficient shots instead of chucking 3s!
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Miles Turner did his best Olynyk impression down the stretch tonight.
Uh oh, did Kevin Love lose another arm? Dude's gonna look like Vader soon
Nah...Turner just sat on the perimeter , missed a bunch of threes, and disappeared on defense.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
I feel the same he's not likable!
Agree with both you guys.
Hard to like a player who whines and female dogs it all the time while at the same time being so physically dominant and skilled.
Add to that lovable combo of traits: The Decision and a guy having himself tatted with "THE CHOSEN ONE" fully across the top of his back, and it's hard to like him.
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Did you see the difference between Bucks and our offense? Open men are driving to the rim for more efficient shots instead of chucking 3s!
The Bucks are also 53% on 3s. When you those 3s the court opens up and when you miss they don't.
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Well, I'd say that pretty much seals George being traded this offseason. How our series ends and the lottery will determine if he comes here or not.
There's no way I would be okay with trading a top 5 pick for one year of George.
Too risky.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
I feel the same he's not likable!
Agree with both you guys.
Hard to like a player who whines and female dogs it all the time while at the same time being so physically dominant and skilled.
Add to that lovable combo of traits: The Decision and a guy having himself tatted with "THE CHOSEN ONE" fully across the top of his back, and it's hard to like him.
Still can't help feeling that if his game were different I could like him despite all those things. That and his on-court demeanor.
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I think it's safe to say tonight is the night the Pacers lost Paul George.
I truly don't understand what Bird has been thinking the last few years.
Mike
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I wish the Celtics right now can play the physicality the Bucks have.
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Sometimes I wish I could enjoy watching LeBron. I really do.
I've always seen him as a villain. Can't help it. Never liked how his teams play. He seems to be a nice guy off the court. I couldn't really explain it to you.
I feel the same he's not likable!
Agree with both you guys.
Hard to like a player who whines and female dogs it all the time while at the same time being so physically dominant and skilled.
Add to that lovable combo of traits: The Decision and a guy having himself tatted with "THE CHOSEN ONE" fully across the top of his back, and it's hard to like him.
Still can't help feeling that if his game were different I could like him despite all those things. That and his on-court demeanor.
Yeah, Ive always hated Lebron, but when GSW signed Durant I thought I could root for Lebron and I tried to, but I just cant do it.
I hate the guy.
That said, I really dont want anyone in the East to beat him. I want Boston to be the beginning and the end for Lebron. The last team to beat him in the East, the one that forced him to Miami and then the one that ends his reign of the East.
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I am amazed at the Bucks shooting over 50% from 2 and 3 and Raptors shooting in the low 20s in both. The raptors are also getting killed on the glass. I thought this would be a better series...
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Through 3 quarters, the Raptors have only 46 points... :o
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Well, at least we're not the Raptors :P
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Well, at least we're not the Raptors :P
Exactly!
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Well, at least we're not the Raptors :P
Well to be fair I'd want to be down 2-1, not 2-0 :P
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If the Celts go down, I'm rooting for the Bucks,
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If the Celts go down, I'm rooting for the Bucks,
I hear ya, but....
I'm rooting for anybody to beat Bron Bron and the Dub(e)s.
If they play each other, i don't give a *#@*...I'm not watching.
Weird, I can''t root for anyone but the Green. I can root against teams, but not for any.
Sounds stupid, I know, but that's how I'm wired.
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Raptors went all in this year. If this series holds up they have a lot of questions this summer.
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Raptors went all in this year. If this series holds up they have a lot of questions this summer.
they had no choice.
had to go for it. Its not looking good, but they had to do it.
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Raptors went all in this year. If this series holds up they have a lot of questions this summer.
they had no choice.
had to go for it. Its not looking good, but they had to do it.
2 first rounders for Ibaka is still too much.
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Raptors went all in this year. If this series holds up they have a lot of questions this summer.
they had no choice.
had to go for it. Its not looking good, but they had to do it.
Completely agree.
Lowry's (and consequently the Raps') window closing.
If they fail badly in these playoffs. maybe Ujiri sees the writing on the wall and blows it up.
Maybe we could get someone from them.
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ROFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jILUqbh0EU
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ROFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jILUqbh0EU
haha...made me laugh!
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What is wrong with the east this year lol.
And looks like NBA is trying to gift wrap LeBron another trophy.
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Raptors went all in this year. If this series holds up they have a lot of questions this summer.
they had no choice.
had to go for it. Its not looking good, but they had to do it.
2 first rounders for Ibaka is still too much.
Was it two for Ibaka? Just one for Tucker.
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The Grizzlies mauled the Spurs...
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If the Celts go down, I'm rooting for the Bucks,
I hear ya, but....
I'm rooting for anybody to beat Bron Bron and the Dub(e)s.
If they play each other, i don't give a *#@*...I'm not watching.
Weird, I can''t root for anyone but the Green. I can root against teams, but not for any.
Sounds stupid, I know, but that's how I'm wired.
Any time you can watch a top 3 team of all time against a top 3 player of all time you obviously have to hope that doesn't happen. Seems totally reasonable.
::)
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watching the Bucks makes me think, if Stevens doesn't win COTY, Jason Kidd won't be too bad
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What is wrong with the east this year lol.
And looks like NBA is trying to gift wrap LeBron another trophy.
Honestly I think the Bucks will give a ton of problems to the Cavs in round 2, the length and size is legit
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Raptors went all in this year. If this series holds up they have a lot of questions this summer.
they had no choice.
had to go for it. Its not looking good, but they had to do it.
2 first rounders for Ibaka is still too much.
Was it two for Ibaka? Just one for Tucker.
I thought it was one plus Ross?
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What is wrong with the east this year lol.
And looks like NBA is trying to gift wrap LeBron another trophy.
Honestly I think the Bucks will give a ton of problems to the Cavs in round 2, the length and size is legit
I agree that they should to the extent that if they don't, I'm adding more data to my theory that the NBA playoffs are subtly and mildly rigged on average. Would also be surprised if Toronto doesn't advance, though.
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What is wrong with the east this year lol.
And looks like NBA is trying to gift wrap LeBron another trophy.
Honestly I think the Bucks will give a ton of problems to the Cavs in round 2, the length and size is legit
If we don't get past the Bulls, the winner of Washington - Chicago should give them a lot of trouble too. Matchups matter in the playoffs. Rondo on Irving, Butler on James, Chicago would have a good chance
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Through 3 quarters, the Raptors have only 46 points... :o
12 points, 18 points, and 16 points in each of the first 3 quarters. They scored 31 in the 4th and still lost by 27 points. What an absolutely atrocious showing.
BTW, Ibaka with 6 points and 3 rebounds in 25 minutes.
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At least we are not the Raptors...ha ha ha!
They were viewed as the second best team in the conference and they are getting waxed!!
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
I'm rooting for a Jazz series win. Griffin is a much better fit for us than Hayward, and I think we'll have a good shot at him with a series loss.
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
I'm rooting for a Jazz series win. Griffin is a much better fit for us than Hayward, and I think we'll have a good shot at him with a series loss.
Position wise absolutely. However Im weary of giving Blake a 5yr max when he has already had 3 knee surgeries and has noticeably lost some of his explosiveness.
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Hayward plus 21 in first quarter and his points tied Clippers! He would look awesome in Green with his old coach.
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
I'm rooting for a Jazz series win. Griffin is a much better fit for us than Hayward, and I think we'll have a good shot at him with a series loss.
Position wise absolutely. However Im weary of giving Blake a 5yr max when he has already had 3 knee surgeries and has noticeably lost some of his explosiveness.
Speaking of that, he just went back to the locker room limping, and he looked pretty mad like he knew something was wrong. Ouch.
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Anyone know how Gordon Haywood got that giant scare on his forehead?
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
I'm rooting for a Jazz series win. Griffin is a much better fit for us than Hayward, and I think we'll have a good shot at him with a series loss.
Position wise absolutely. However Im weary of giving Blake a 5yr max when he has already had 3 knee surgeries and has noticeably lost some of his explosiveness.
Only resigning with your current team lets you sign a 5 year deal. We would be signing him for 4
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
I'm rooting for a Jazz series win. Griffin is a much better fit for us than Hayward, and I think we'll have a good shot at him with a series loss.
Position wise absolutely. However Im weary of giving Blake a 5yr max when he has already had 3 knee surgeries and has noticeably lost some of his explosiveness.
Only resigning with your current team lets you sign a 5 year deal. We would be signing him for 4
While completely true, I'd be similarly worried about giving a 4-year max deal to someone who's missed at least a month in each of the last three seasons.
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Rockets and thunder game close. 1 pt game
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The Thunder escaped thanks to Adams bailing out Westbrook for a dumb 3 attempt.
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Jazz blowing it. Favors with two big missed free throws down the stretch.
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40-point night for Hayward. Hope Utah loses though lol
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Hayward going OFF in Utah! 16 pts already in the first quarter!
I hope he scores a ton and they lose.
Our chances of getting him go up with a Jazz series loss to the Clippers.
I'm rooting for a Jazz series win. Griffin is a much better fit for us than Hayward, and I think we'll have a good shot at him with a series loss.
Position wise absolutely. However Im weary of giving Blake a 5yr max when he has already had 3 knee surgeries and has noticeably lost some of his explosiveness.
Only resigning with your current team lets you sign a 5 year deal. We would be signing him for 4
While completely true, I'd be similarly worried about giving a 4-year max deal to someone who's missed at least a month in each of the last three seasons.
And now Griffen has a bruised toe. IF he was more healthy, I'd be fine taking him, but he's on AB's level of durability, we'd end up having two guys who miss a big chunk of the season.
Hayward looks smooth. I have a feeling he's going to stay, but I don't know how much better the Jazz can get, too good for picks, not good enough to really compete. Not sure they can get a FA to come, and don't know what they can give up for a second star.
Should be an interesting off season.
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Wow George Hill clutch 3. 106-105. CP3 makes two free-throws and makes it a 3-point cushion.
5.3 seconds left, Jazz ball.
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Clippers win. Refs screwed up the Jazz towards the end. Clippers reclaim home-court advantage.
Ah well, there goes Hayward's high-scoring performance!
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If Jazz lose, we'll take Hayward ;D
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Blake Griffin is out for the rest of the season.
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Blake Griffin is out for the rest of the season.
Yet some people here still want to give him a 5yr max this offseason
::) ::) ::) ::)
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Wonder if he will be able to get 5 year max from any team?
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Anyone else excited about seeing more of Paul Pierce :)
20min last night 0-1 fg and 3 rb tho :/
i am hopeful for a iso paul vs iso joe action
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Blake just can't stay healthy anymore. Think I'd prefer to pass if Hayward wants to wear green now.
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Wonder if he will be able to get 5 year max from any team?
There are some really dumb teams out there man...
Really dumb teams.
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Blake Griffin is out for the rest of the season.
Yet some people here still want to give him a 5yr max this offseason
::) ::) ::) ::)
Knicks , Nets , heat
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Blake Griffin is out for the rest of the season.
Yet some people here still want to give him a 5yr max this offseason
::) ::) ::) ::)
Knicks , Nets , heat
nobody can except the clips
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Anyone else excited about seeing more of Paul Pierce :)
20min last night 0-1 fg and 3 rb tho :/
i am hopeful for a iso paul vs iso joe action
I had seen the box score without seeing the game or hearing about Griffin's injury. I was wondering why The Captain was playing so many minutes. That's about matches his season's total!
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Wonder if he will be able to get 5 year max from any team?
Only the clippers can offer him 5 years
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Doc "the GM" will convince the Clips to give Griffin the 5-year max.
Then they'll go hard after Carmelo this summer.
And it won't matter because they will still be second round exits next year.
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Giannis is amazing.
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Giannis is amazing.
his nickname is so appropriate. Every time I watch him I find myself muttering "holy cow he is a freak" to myself.
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Wonder if he will be able to get 5 year max from any team?
Only the clippers can offer him 5 years
And he will definitely get that offer. There will also be plenty of teams ready to give him a 4 year max. The Celtics are probably one of them.
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You know who JV reminds me of?
Ante Zizic.
Or rather, Ante Zizic reminds me of JV.
I'm really enjoying this JV - Monroe battle down low.
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You know who JV reminds me of?
Ante Zizic.
Or rather, Ante Zizic reminds me of JV.
I'm really enjoying this JV - Monroe battle down low.
Monroe is balling, but looks gassed.
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Monroe is so good. He's able to play in this series because they have JV on the other side, but I'm happy to see him doing well. Always believed in him when he was in Detroit.
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Giannis is amazing.
his nickname is so appropriate. Every time I watch him I find myself muttering "holy cow he is a freak" to myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iirDzMk5ysI
;D
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This is why I feel confident about facing the Wizards in round 2 (should we advance). They simply can't seem to win or play consistently well away from home.
But after how round one has went with a bad matchup, I REALLY don't want to see Atlanta in round 2.
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Giannis is amazing.
his nickname is so appropriate. Every time I watch him I find myself muttering "holy cow he is a freak" to myself.
I think the same about Kelly actually, but maybe in a different sense of the word. ;D
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I don't know why the Wizards plays so poorly away from their homecourt.
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Yeah, honestly, the Cavaliers aren't as dominant anymore, but they should steamroll through the East still.
Celtics, Raptors, Wizards all really inconsistent and likely going 6-7 games each series First Round.
Meanwhile Cavaliers could sweep Indiana.
None of TOR, BOS, WAS look consistent or "threatening" atm, including WAS right now Game 3.
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Giannis is my favorite non Celtic in the league. His play style is just so much fun to watch, and he will be a force of nature for the next 10ish years injury willing.
He reminds me of the crazy potential of a young LeBron, except I don't want to turn the tv off every time he opens his mouth. He seems to be a very humble down to earth kid who gets it.
PS- I am so irked that he isn't a Celtic. Not mad at Danny or the other 14 GMs who passed on him, but mad at the pure fact that he isn't wearing our green haha.
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Wonder if he will be able to get 5 year max from any team?
Only the clippers can offer him 5 years
And he will definitely get that offer. There will also be plenty of teams ready to give him a 4 year max. The Celtics are probably one of them.
TP. This is correct.
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Kawhi is just crazy good.
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This Grizzlies/Spurs game has been excellent. High level basketball on both ends of the floor.
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Kawahi Leonard is a MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What a great game this is SAS MEM. clutch shot after clutch shot. Overtime game
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That was without a doubt one of the best games I've watched.
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that was great basketball.
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That was a heavyweight fight. Fun to watch.
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Imagine a world in which Javale is blessed with the brain and the drive that would allow him to focus for a full 32-38 minutes a game and develop his basketball skills.
He'd own the league.
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I knew Portland wouldn't pose a threat to the Warriors.
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He owns shaqtin a fool lol
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Our old friend ET has been a big reason for this Portland loss with his three missed free throws, careless turnovers, and mistimed jumps giving up offensive rebounds.
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Seems like another NBA Finals rematch
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Cavaliers up 58-52 at halftime in Game 4.
Paul George took a shot to the midsection late in the half, but is also struggling with 2/10 shooting.
This could be the last 24 minutes of Indiana's season.. and George's time in Indy.
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Our old friend ET has been a big reason for this Portland loss with his three missed free throws, careless turnovers, and mistimed jumps giving up offensive rebounds.
Turner was pretty good over the course of the game. In fact, I thought Portland's offense looked better down the stretch with Turner running it than it did with Lillard running it.
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Cavaliers up 58-52 at halftime in Game 4.
Paul George took a shot to the midsection late in the half, but is also struggling with 2/10 shooting.
This could be the last 24 minutes of Indiana's season.. and George's time in Indy.
I suppose there is about 75 % chance he becomes a Laker . Johnson and the rest of the Laker world are targeting him.. hopefully Bird can keep him off the Lakers .
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Cavaliers up 58-52 at halftime in Game 4.
Paul George took a shot to the midsection late in the half, but is also struggling with 2/10 shooting.
This could be the last 24 minutes of Indiana's season.. and George's time in Indy.
I suppose there is about 75 % chance he becomes a Laker . Johnson and the rest of the Laker world are targeting him.. hopefully Bird can keep him off the Lakers .
I think people are taking this LA stuff WAY too seriously. Don't you guys remember the half dozen other stars that were supposedly "locks" to go to LA? lol If George wants to win, which he does, he's not going there unless they make some dramatic improvements before then.
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Cavaliers up 58-52 at halftime in Game 4.
Paul George took a shot to the midsection late in the half, but is also struggling with 2/10 shooting.
This could be the last 24 minutes of Indiana's season.. and George's time in Indy.
I suppose there is about 75 % chance he becomes a Laker . Johnson and the rest of the Laker world are targeting him.. hopefully Bird can keep him off the Lakers .
I think people are taking this LA stuff WAY too seriously. Don't you guys remember the half dozen other stars that were supposedly "locks" to go to LA? lol If George wants to win, which he does, he's not going there unless they make some dramatic improvements before then.
Yeah. Love, DeRozan, and others were locks to go to LAL. What happened lol?
Also, George has called out some players (even if just subtle shots) for not doing well. Imagine being in La La Land with virtually the same "rebuilding" team LOL. :laugh:
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Man, Cavs have been terrible in the fourth quarter.
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Larry bird looked disappointed. "not this again" lol
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lol three winnable games that Indy could've had that they blew. Yeah, PG just played his last game as a Pacer. I don't see how they keep him this summer after everything that has gone down.
Hopefully Toronto or Milwaukee can give Cleveland more fight in the second round.
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lol three winnable games that Indy could've had that they blew. Yeah, PG just played his last game as a Pacer. I don't see how they keep him this summer after everything that has gone down.
Hopefully Toronto or Milwaukee can give Cleveland more fight in the second round.
Hopefully not. Hopefully Cavs can dispatch of either team quickly so they can beat GSW (Lakers of NoCal). I totally dislike GSW.
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Cavaliers up 58-52 at halftime in Game 4.
Paul George took a shot to the midsection late in the half, but is also struggling with 2/10 shooting.
This could be the last 24 minutes of Indiana's season.. and George's time in Indy.
I suppose there is about 75 % chance he becomes a Laker . Johnson and the rest of the Laker world are targeting him.. hopefully Bird can keep him off the Lakers .
I think people are taking this LA stuff WAY too seriously. Don't you guys remember the half dozen other stars that were supposedly "locks" to go to LA? lol If George wants to win, which he does, he's not going there unless they make some dramatic improvements before then.
I suppose I'm panicking ;D
I'm so use to the Laker tricks though the years ......distrust them on any deal dies hard.
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Larry bird looked disappointed. "not this again" lol
George had no help , other than the nice rookie center . Teague seems to disappear in playoffs .
Larry is going to,have to make a whale of a trade to keep George .
Lakers will have their treasure chest wide open
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Taj Gibson is doing a great job in the PnR against Ryan Anderson & Harden.
Proving himself to be a valuable midseason addition. Hard to see OKC doing anywhere near as well if Sabonis was the one trying to defend that action.
Loving OKC's defensive intensity here early in the 3rd.
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Man oh man the Thunder is playing some ball today! WB with the first half triple-double and the defense has elevated to compensate the lack of perimeter scoring.
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My God, how does Roberson get so bad at free throws?! 2-12 today and 2-17 in the series!!
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Wooooowwwww. Just dumb, dumb basketball all around on both sides of the court. This is the complete opposite type of game as that Spurs/Grizzlies game last night.
But that Adams purposefully missed free throw to that Westbrook deep three was insane.
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Great uncalled foul by Harden on the last play.
Am I the only one thinking this guy is protected by referees in a SICK way ? I mean, he is beyond all-star treatment at this point.
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That Indiana team is poorly constructed to begin with last summer. It seemed Bird was just ready for a new direction and shook it up just to do so.
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Am I the only one thinking this guy is protected by referees in a SICK way ? I mean, he is beyond all-star treatment at this point.
Just like Butler was our game....NBA where star calls happen.
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I'm so torn on who to root for in this Jazz/Clippers game. Both teams losing would be the most ideal scenario! ;D
Though I have saw where several people are actually expecting Griffin to leave LA this summer after this latest injury. So if he's going to be open to leave regardless, perhaps a Clippers win and then sweep at the hand of the Warriors is the best outcome to maximize our chances at signing one of Griffin or Hayward.
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I'm so torn on who to root for in this Jazz/Clippers game. Both teams losing would be the most ideal scenario! ;D
Though I have saw where several people are actually expecting Griffin to leave LA this summer after this latest injury. So if he's going to be open to leave regardless, perhaps a Clippers win and then sweep at the hand of the Warriors is the best outcome to maximize our chances at signing one of Griffin or Hayward.
I kind of think this is a case where the Clippers themselves may hesitate on maxing Griffin.
Unless Doc the GM says "who cares" and keeps him.. ::)
I agree with what you say, that's the best case scenario. Clippers have to realize especially if they get swept in the 2nd round that there's no hope with their current core and even if they add Melo it won't be enough for them. Plus other teams in the West are rising and Spurs/Rockets look real good too.
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Am I the only one thinking this guy is protected by referees in a SICK way ? I mean, he is beyond all-star treatment at this point.
Just like Butler was our game....NBA where star calls happen.
I mean I wouldn't mind if Isaiah Thomas started getting these same superstar calls every single night.. :laugh:
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Have to root for the Clippers this series. Hayward to Boston is the best option for us. Brad will help him like he's helped IT become what he is.
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https://twitter.com/dave_schilling/status/856269037939990528
[dang] that sucks...it's even more concerning because he's no longer a player but still ahving these sort of issues as a coach
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https://twitter.com/dave_schilling/status/856269037939990528
[dang] that sucks...it's even more concerning because he's no longer a player but still ahving these sort of issues as a coach
I wonder who will be his replacement. Their team could become worse and run KD-Iso plays for most of the time and stop the ball movement.
Best health regards to Kerr. He changed the dynamics of Warrior's offense.
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hayward out the second half, sick
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hayward out the second half, sick
Food poisoning, that's one of the worse feelings I ever had. I literally wanted to die I felt so bad!
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Rudy Gobert is back? I thought he was out for the whole series?
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Joe Ingles can ball, who knew.
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Joe JOhnson is incredible.
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I don't think the loss of Hayward will affect the Jazz badly as long as Iso Joe doesn't becomes suddenly old.
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I mean how does the likes of Joe J and Jamaal Crawford still be as competitive as they are now. And yet we have a James Young so inept and useless in our bench...even 3rd overall pickJaylen Brown is pretty much a non factor.
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Joe Ingles can ball, who knew.
Plenty of people, just not Doc Rivers.
His decision to cut him in favour of Dante Cunningham a couple of years ago is coming back to bite him in the worst way.
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Anyone watching the Raptors - Bucks game ?
Who will take the series according to you ?
I still feel Raps will have the last word
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Anyone watching the Raptors - Bucks game ?
Who will take the series according to you ?
I still feel Raps will have the last word
eesh raptors are dominating the bucks. A bit surprised to see this after how good the Bucks looked early on in the series. I guess the Raptors are back.
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Bucks staging a comeback. Let's see if they can keep it up.
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Anyone watching the Raptors - Bucks game ?
Who will take the series according to you ?
I still feel Raps will have the last word
eesh raptors are dominating the bucks. A bit surprised to see this after how good the Bucks looked early on in the series. I guess the Raptors are back.
10 point game now. Would love to see the Bucks win this series. Can't picture either team getting past Cleveland, but I think Giannis vs LeBron would be a great matchup. Could do a lot for elevating Giannis' status even further.
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I believe the Raptors had something like a 17-0 run in the first quarter. I also believe the Bucks have had 2 9-0 runs.
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Schroeder playing like a young Rondo out there.
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How can an NBA ref be so dumb as to call that foul on Howard???!!!
Guy is desperate and jumps into him. Even I know not to blow the whistle! Is the ref tired? Need a breather? Get in the game ref!!
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Schroeder playing like a young Rondo out there.
Oh, well in that case.
GO WASHINGTON! :laugh:
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Jason Smith is downright terrible.
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Jason Smith is downright terrible.
All he does is foul. He shouldn't be in the league
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LET'S GO HAWKS!
Make it a grueling 7-game series!
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I think I underestimated how brutal the Wizards are on the road. That should bode well for us if we see them in round 2.
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Warriors up 28-5 in the 1st quarter.
Safe to say this series is effectively over.
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Warriors up 28-5 in the 1st quarter.
Safe to say this series is effectively over.
Warriors scored 45 points in the 1st quarter!
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Warriors up 28-5 in the 1st quarter.
Safe to say this series is effectively over.
The least interesting matchup in the playoffs.
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Interested to see how the Houston crowd will react if the game is clinched for them and Westbrook comes out of the game. The guy deserves a big ovation for an amazing season.
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Wow, same old story for OKC.
Jump out to a pretty nice lead with Westbrook.
Westbrook goes to bench, HOU suddenly comes back and OKC's offense goes cold.
HOU down 8 earlier now quickly tie it up in a span of 2-3 minutes...
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Westbrook really hurts his team will the ISO dribble the clock out and shoots a brick. He needs to learn about passing and team ball.
Sorry , but for me ,Watching this game is like nails on a chalkboard . I guess everybody can just sit on the bench and let Harden and Westbrook play a game of full court one on one. The rest of the players are just in the way .
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I wish we had a backup C like Nene!
But Little Brad would say "no he's not my type of center."
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Looks like LeBron got away with a huge no-call on Game 4 go-ahead shot against Pacers.
Not that it matters...the Pacers would've still lost the series.
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Lou Williams was such a big pickup for the Rockets. Another guard who can create shots, stretch the floor and hit free throws in key moments. And less likely to shoot them out of the game than a JR Smith-type.
I think they might be the most dangerous opponent for the Warriors in the West.
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Lou Williams was such a big pickup for the Rockets. Another guard who can create shots, stretch the floor and hit free throws in key moments. And less likely to shoot them out of the game than a JR Smith-type.
I think they might be the most dangerous opponent for the Warriors in the West.
I think the Spurs still pose as the biggest threat due to their size. Grizz would make any look bad due to their physicality.
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They are chanting REFS SUCK in Houston and they are not wrong!
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Westbrook shot his team in the foot by chucking ill advised 3s.
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2-19 in the playoffs for free throw shooting? Wow, Roberson.
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Westbrook shot his team in the foot by chucking ill advised 3s.
Westbrook is gased!
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Westbrook shot his team in the foot by chucking ill advised 3s.
Westbrook is gased!
Lebron plays more minutes than him.
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Westbrook shot his team in the foot by chucking ill advised 3s.
Westbrook is gased!
Lebron plays more minutes than him.
LeBron isn't shooting 34 shots...
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Westbrook shot his team in the foot by chucking ill advised 3s.
Westbrook is gased!
Lebron plays more minutes than him.
LeBron isn't shooting 34 shots...
Exactly, AND even though the ball is in Bron Brons hands a lot, it is not as much as Westbrook...
AND, Westbrook doesn't have two other All-Stars to shoulder the load. Westbrook has a MUCH bigger load to carry individually.
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McHale is calling the Clippers game and Paul Pierce is playing!
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Haywood is ballin' tonight!
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Mike Conley is sooooo silky. I really regret not watching more Memphis this year.
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Paul Pierce with 2 3s, 6 points, and 2 rebounds in 6 minutes of play!
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Westbrook shot his team in the foot by chucking ill advised 3s.
Westbrook is gased!
Lebron plays more minutes than him.
LeBron isn't shooting 34 shots...
Exactly, AND even though the ball is in Bron Brons hands a lot, it is not as much as Westbrook...
AND, Westbrook doesn't have two other All-Stars to shoulder the load. Westbrook has a MUCH bigger load to carry individually.
Westbrook had Durant, Harden and Ibaka spacing the floor for him.
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They are chanting REFS SUCK in Houston and they are not wrong!
If only the refs could start a "fans suck" chant. That's a chant with which I could agree.
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If the Jazz can't beat LAC without Griffin, then I expect Hayward to seriously consider leaving this summer for Boston.
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Anyone see cp3 yelling st pierce to defend better and pierce pushes cp3 arm away? Lol
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Deandre Jordan has worst free throw % in NBA history lol
Remember when Danny wanted him
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Good Lord, Joe Johnson!
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Killer Joe
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It's kinda crazy watching Joe Johnson as the best clutch guy in a series, maybe the best player, at 35.
It's even crazier looking at his numbers and realizing he'll probably get into the HOF.
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Bye bye Clippers! I'm guessing you'll see a substantially different Clippers team next year, hopefully with Griffin in green on the East Coast!
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CP3 throwing a sissy fit when the buzzer sounded lol.
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Bye bye Clippers! I'm guessing you'll see a substantially different Clippers team next year, hopefully with Griffin in green on the East Coast!
Love the player… Hate the fragility.
Potentially franchise crippling contract if when he gets hurt.
High risk/high reward. Too steep downside weighed against a marginal increase in upside vs Hayward/Millsap.
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It's kinda crazy watching Joe Johnson as the best clutch guy in a series, maybe the best player, at 35.
It's even crazier looking at his numbers and realizing he'll probably get into the HOF.
And we traded him away...if we kept him we would be going deep into the playoffs
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It's kinda crazy watching Joe Johnson as the best clutch guy in a series, maybe the best player, at 35.
It's even crazier looking at his numbers and realizing he'll probably get into the HOF.
And we traded him away...if we kept him we would be going deep into the playoffs
Trading a 20 years old 10th pick after half a season is a dumb thing to do.
I don't think it's something Danny will ever do.
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Bye bye Clippers! I'm guessing you'll see a substantially different Clippers team next year, hopefully with Griffin in green on the East Coast!
Love the player… Hate the fragility.
Potentially franchise crippling contract if when he gets hurt.
High risk/high reward. Too steep downside weighed against a marginal increase in upside vs Hayward/Millsap.
copy that, i would LOVE Milsap and Hayward, tough no nonsence guys that play both ways.
the clippers suck, the biggest underachieving team in the last decade or so.
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The way I see it, Clippers Achilles tendon - serviceable wings - during the Lob-city era, was on full display in game 5.
Utah stepped on their weakness, "outwinging" them to death. The foursome of Hayward, JJ, Ingles, and Hood played 148 mins (61,65% of all possible minutes, that is more than 3/5 positions) they shot 51 out of teams 81 FGA (63%). Clips only had smallish guards to cover them.
No team can soar without wings.
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The way I see it, Clippers Achilles tendon - serviceable wings - during the Lob-city era, was on full display in game 5.
Utah stepped on their weakness, "outwinging" them to death. The foursome of Hayward, JJ, Ingles, and Hood played 148 mins (61,65% of all possible minutes, that is more than 3/5 positions) they shot 51 out of teams 81 FGA (63%). Clips only had smallish guards to cover them.
No team can soar without wings.
TP for the great analysis!
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It's already 1 season too much for this current Clippers roster.
This is GM Rivers fault. He should have traded Griffin last summer and reload.
Everybody felt the Clippers are not a serious contender anymore.
No real SF, no bench (besides Crawford), small SG. Too many flaws to compete with GS and SA.
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It's already 1 season too much for this current Clippers roster.
This is GM Rivers fault. He should have traded Griffin last summer and reload.
Everybody felt the Clippers are not a serious contender anymore.
No real SF, no bench (besides Crawford), small SG. Too many flaws to compete with GS and SA.
Excellent point.
Clips are way past their expiration date
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Bye bye Clippers! I'm guessing you'll see a substantially different Clippers team next year, hopefully with Griffin in green on the East Coast!
His injury history REALLY scares me now.
A 4 YEAR MAX to take that risk? Yikes.
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Bye bye Clippers! I'm guessing you'll see a substantially different Clippers team next year, hopefully with Griffin in green on the East Coast!
I wouldn't be shocked to see them win this series still, but their ship definitely seems to have sailed for a championship run with this group.
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
How funny would it be if Griffin went from one super athletic center who clogs the lane right to another. If I were the Celtics, I think I'd take a chance on him, given how well he'd fit into this current roster.
I think if Blake and Chris split, it would be prudent to get what they can for Deandre, yeah. He's not someone you're going to hold on to and build around.
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What's up with the timing of the Hawks / Wiz tipoff?
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
Aren't they on the hook for Bosh's salary until her officially retires?
Mike
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
As for Paul, I'm not sure that he leaves regardless of what happens. Didn't he help rig the new CBA to get himself more money or something this year in LA?
I'd love to see him in San Antonio, though. I'd love to be able to root for him once, but I just can't bring myself to do it with him in LA. I think you'd have to give SAN Antonio the edge over GS if he went there.
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What's up with the timing of the Hawks / Wiz tipoff?
Only two Eastern conference games today and TNT has both of them.
Mike
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
I can't imagine Hayward taking less money to leave a Jazz team that makes the second round of the playoffs.
Griffin coming to Boston is so perfect there's no way it will happen.
Mike
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What's up with the timing of the Hawks / Wiz tipoff?
Only two Eastern conference games today and TNT has both of them.
Mike
Hah, even for 7pm starts Washington fans don't show up until 7:30. Can't imagine that place was more than half full for a 6 o'clock start.
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I'd really rather Atlanta didn't win this game.
Mike
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Starting to feel more convinced that even though CLE isn't as dominant as before, they'll still steamroll through the East (no series going 7 games).
Washington don't look as elite nowadays, and TOR/BOS have been shaky as well.
To beat CLE, you have to be very consistent and the margin of error should be real low, but all three teams have been inconsistent and have been careless at numerous times.
Meanwhile, Atlanta is looking a lot more dangerous than people realized (including me), but they are no threat to CLE either, though hypothetically if BOS/ATL both advance, it will he a real tough series for us...
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
I can't imagine Hayward taking less money to leave a Jazz team that makes the second round of the playoffs.
Griffin coming to Boston is so perfect there's no way it will happen.
Mike
I can see Hayward leaving Utah. I mean not trying to create any controversy, but Boston is a great city for a white guy. He also gets to play with his close friend/favorite coach. And the east is much easier to get through then the west.
I think he will realize he has a better shot to win with Boston. Especially since we'll always have the assets to make a big trade.
As for Griffin, I'm not sure Ainge will be interested tbh. I'm not sure anyone besides the Clippers will even offer Griffin a 4 year max. Nets, maybe the Knicks? Can't imagine a contender throwing money at him. He's not worth the risk. His body is clearly breaking down. He is a perfect fit, assuming we have the old Blake Grffin, but I haven't seen that guy play consistently at that level in a while now.
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
Aren't they on the hook for Bosh's salary until her officially retires?
Mike
I believe he is expected to get waived at the start of the offseason and insurance will cover the rest, but I do not have a link handy.
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
I can't imagine Hayward taking less money to leave a Jazz team that makes the second round of the playoffs.
Griffin coming to Boston is so perfect there's no way it will happen.
Mike
I've been long skeptical that Griffin will leave LA. I think he loves it there. But if he decides he wants to contend for a championship, his fit in Boston is, indeed, perfect.
Maybe Paul Pierce can be the Celtic whisperer and tell him how great it is. That would be worth a front office position.
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
I can't imagine Hayward taking less money to leave a Jazz team that makes the second round of the playoffs.
Griffin coming to Boston is so perfect there's no way it will happen.
Mike
I've been long skeptical that Griffin will leave LA. I think he loves it there. But if he decides he wants to contend for a championship, his fit in Boston is, indeed, perfect.
Maybe Paul Pierce can be the Celtic whisperer and tell him how great it is. That would be worth a front office position.
Part of wonders if the Clippers will even want to give Blake a 5-year max tbh...
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
As for Paul, I'm not sure that he leaves regardless of what happens. Didn't he help rig the new CBA to get himself more money or something this year in LA?
I'd love to see him in San Antonio, though. I'd love to be able to root for him once, but I just can't bring myself to do it with him in LA. I think you'd have to give SAN Antonio the edge over GS if he went there.
I think it'd be great if Paul and Redick both went to San Antonio somehow.
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I've been really impressed with Schroeder lately, especially in the playoffs. I think that's Rozier's potential if he pulls it all together. They're very similar physically and athletically, with a slight edge to Schroeder, but Schroeder's BBIQ and defense are much better than Rozier's right now.
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Where does Blake end up next year?
I say Miami.
I'd like to see Paul go to the Pelicans or the Spurs.
Do the Clips trade Deandre if the other two guys and Redick all leave?
Where does Redick end up? Cleveland?
I honestly think that if Griffin leaves the Clippers he'll come to Boston. We're pretty much a very, very ideal fit for him playing-wise, and with as much media exposure as IT has received this year, it shows Griffin that he can still have opportunities like that in Boston. Let's also not forget the reports of how impressed the Clippers players were of Pierce's reception in Boston this year. That was a big reason Al came, and I'm sure it holds positive for someone like Griffin, too.
Of course, this is all contingent on if we want him to begin with, which I think should be obvious, though you never know with Danny and Brad's connection with Hayward.
As for Paul, I'm not sure that he leaves regardless of what happens. Didn't he help rig the new CBA to get himself more money or something this year in LA?
I'd love to see him in San Antonio, though. I'd love to be able to root for him once, but I just can't bring myself to do it with him in LA. I think you'd have to give SAN Antonio the edge over GS if he went there.
I think it'd be great if Paul and Redick both went to San Antonio somehow.
Seeing Chris Paul under Pop's thumb would be very interesting. I think it'd be good for him, too. I don't know if SA could make that happen or not. But they definitely need a new starting PG.
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4 point game 4th quarter in Washington.
Would love to see the wiZZARDS blow this series. A first round collapse would send that franchise into a real panic and identity crisis, could even prompt their front office to do something really stupid!
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This Washington team is deep and talented.
I really don't want to have to face them.
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Boy is Millsap one tough SOB.
If We don't get Hayward, I really hope we get him in the off-season.
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Man, the way Millsap and Schroeder are playing right now, I'm not sure that Atlanta would be that much easier of a matchup than Washington. Schroeder can (and has) given IT problems before in the past, and for the most part we don't have a good individual defender against Millsap.
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Man, the way Millsap and Schroeder are playing right now, I'm not sure that Atlanta would be that much easier of a matchup than Washington. Schroeder can (and has) given IT problems before in the past, and for the most part we don't have a good individual defender against Millsap.
I hear ya!
Schroeder gets cuckoo jacked up against us all the time. Brazemore too.
What are we, 4-12 in our last 16 against them? Not sure of the exact number.
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Wizard looking to win game 3.
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What exactly does Demare Carrol do for Toronto? Do they even need him?
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Toronto looking much better lately. They could actually give the Cavs a run for their money with how bad the Cavs D has been. Toronto is a much better offensive team than Indiana, yet Indiana tore them up many times throughout the series.
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Game over for the bucks. Another blow out elimination loss for them.
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Buck still breathing and fighting back
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Delly is so much more enjoyable to watch now that he's not a Cavalier.
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Oh my Lord, Toronto. This is as bad as Cleveland's loss to Atlanta with all of these mental mistakes.
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Great scene in Milwaukee right now
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Toronto choking the game away.
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Oh... My... Lord... lol
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Bucks about to get this game!!
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I wonder if the husks are going to punch themselves out before the knockout
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The Jet!
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Bucks team is winning me over. They're all gassed, but they're still playing their guts out. All heart at this point. Love watching this as a fan of basketball.
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The thing that's incredible is that it's not like Milwaukee is playing good either. They've literally missed 8 free throws this quarter, yet the Raptors still gave up the lead. Lol
I take back what I said about the Raptors earlier. They just truly aren't a good playoff team. Can't do this type of stuff and expect to get past the Cavs.
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I wonder if the Bucks are going to punch themselves out before the knockout
Yuppers
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How not to execute on the offensive (or defensive) end at the end of a basketball game. This game was there for the taking for the Bucks. That's a shame for them.
Edit: Yikes - way to make it interesting, but Giannis dribbling the ball for 10 seconds at the top of the key and then opting for the lay-up (down by three) with only three seconds left is mind-boggling with no time-outs left. Any three in the half-court set would have been better than what they could get going full court in three seconds.
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The NBA is kinda silly
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Lol...USA chant
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Boy, this has just been terrible basketball on both sides. Why Giannis opted for the two pointer there is beyond me, let alone Snell throwing it away and not even getting a heave at the buzzer. They had no timeouts left, so why wouldn't you just attempt the three with that little time left?
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Way to waste a potential game-tying 3. Greek Freak had a brain fart and went for a 2 instead, smh..
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Giannis afraid to take a three in a big spot.
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Wonder if Monroe could be had for a reasonable price. Hed be a solid big..
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Raptors vs Cavaliers in round 2!
Going to be a big series.
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Wonder if Monroe could be had for a reasonable price. Hed be a solid big..
We've been down this road before.
Stevens doesn't want him.
Durable, runs the floor, still young, bangs inside, rebound… Not a Stevens player.
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Wonder if Monroe could be had for a reasonable price. Hed be a solid big..
We've been down this road before.
Stevens doesn't want him.
Yes, Stevens only wants soft, pitiful bigs that can stretch the floor like AJ and KO. Maybe getting bullied in the playoffs this year will change his tune..
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Wonder if Monroe could be had for a reasonable price. Hed be a solid big..
We've been down this road before.
Stevens doesn't want him.
Can't defend the perimeter nor can stretch the floor... Not a Stevens player.
Fixed
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Wonder if Monroe could be had for a reasonable price. Hed be a solid big..
We've been down this road before.
Stevens doesn't want him.
Can't defend the perimeter nor can stretch the floor... Not a Stevens player.
Fixed
Can't wait until Gortat feasts on the boards next round
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Wonder if Monroe could be had for a reasonable price. Hed be a solid big..
We've been down this road before.
Stevens doesn't want him.
Can't defend the perimeter nor can stretch the floor... Not a Stevens player.
Fixed
Can't wait until Gortat feasts on the boards next round
Yeah, because KO and Horford weren't taking Lopez who is a much better rebounder out of his comfort zone. ::)
And I've been one of the loudest KO critics here in the blog.
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The Spurs screwed themselves by not being able to take advantage of KD's absence and take that number one seed. They could've faced a much weaker Trailblazers team and then either a Griffin-less Clippers team or a very beatable Jazz team. Now they're looking likely to go to game 7 with Memphis and have a date with the dangerous Rockets in the second round.
That's a shame, too, because I honestly thought the Grizzlies could've knocked off the Warriors in the first round, especially with KD missing several games. They just match up so well with the Warriors due to their size and D, and they gave them legit problems all year long.
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Only 3 series left and they're all playing tonight. This could be the end of the first round if Wahington, Utah, and Boston take care of business. I'm sure at least one will go 7, though. I just hope it isn't the Celtics. With the way they'v been played, who knows what could happen in a game 7.
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Let's go Hawks!
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Tied and then there go the Wizards, up 17 - 10!
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Why the hell Brooks keeps playing Jason Smith?
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anyone see wizards/arlanta with gortat and morris coming off the bench during slight scrum? could miss next game 7 or game 1 based on rules? or maybe not cause "right before" scrum
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Jazz down by 2 at the half. They really need to try and finish this thing here, because I'm not sure that I'd bet against the Clippers, specifically Paul, at home in game 7, especially with how inexperienced in the playoffs this Utah Jazz team is.
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Jazz/Clipper game looking to be a classic.
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Paul Pierce getting major minutes for the Clippers.
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Pierce for three after getting a major assist to DJ for an and one.
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This is pathetic by the Jazz. There's no way they should be losing like this to this depleted, old Clippers team, at home no less.
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This is pathetic by the Jazz. There's no way they should be losing like this to this depleted, old Clippers team, at home no less.
what difference does it make? Either team will be slaughtered by GSW.
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This is pathetic by the Jazz. There's no way they should be losing like this to this depleted, old Clippers team, at home no less.
what difference does it make? Either team will be slaughtered by GSW.
Sure, but a first round series win is much more important to the Jazz than the Clippers, especially with Griffin being out for half the series. That would be a successful season for the Jazz, where I think it would absolutely have to be considered a failure to get knocked out of the playoffs by this depleted Clippers team, especially being up 3-2. Fair or not, it also could very well be the determining factor for whether Hayward stays or goes to "greener" pastures.
I agree that it's "meh" for the Clippers, since this entire season will inevitably end up a failure for them again. But, losing this first round series could force their hand to break up this current team this summer, along with maybe finally convincing Griffin to search for "greener" pastures, too.
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so Clippers lose, what happens to that team?
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so Clippers lose, what happens to that team?
Reports have come out recently that they still want to resign all three of Griffin, Paul, and Reddick.
There has been skepticism about that if they lose this series, though, and I've read several writers that believe Griffin is seriously considering leaving.
I don't see the logic in bringing this same basic band back together. They're simply just not good or durable enough, and they're certainly not going to beat GS anytime soon, let alone the Spurs, Rockets, or an improved Jazz team. Hell, they were spanked and swept in the season series by GS even when healthy, and they averaged something like a 20+ point loss in those four losses this season. They might lose by 30 every night if they actually make it to the second round and play the Warriors.
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PP is getting some good minutes defending Haywood tonight, rolling back the clock a little. Age wins in the playoffs.
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Lol the Jazz are going to lose this series to a Griffin-less Clippers team after stealing two games in LA. And that means the Warriors are going to sweep the Clippers by probably an average of 30 points per game.
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Reddick and clips messing up 2 turnovers back to back
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Doc blew a 10 pt lead with a minute to go. Hayward 3 just made it 1 possession game
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Joe johnson or one of the jazz should have used a time out
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
Hayward did great this series. his teammates didn't show up. its a team game.
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Hayward is already busting himself out but he has no IT or AB to help him...
With the Cs he will have less pressure and will get a ton of good looks due in part to our spacing.
Im good with either PG as long as he commits, or Hayward...Butler im ok as well but no way we give up the farm for him specially not AB.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
While the C's are better, the Jazz are not a treadmill team. People really need to get a handle on that term. Thats for teams that regularly finish in the 35-45 win range, never getting top lottery picks, but also easy outs in the playoffs for a top 2 seed.
Treadmills are flat. The Jazz won 11 more games this year than last, the second biggest increase in the league, and the biggest jump for any playoff team. If they're on the treadmill, so is the entire NBA. ::)
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
While the C's are better, the Jazz are not a treadmill team. People really need to get a handle on that term. Thats for teams that regularly finish in the 35-45 win range, never getting top lottery picks, but also easy outs in the playoffs for a top 2 seed.
Treadmills are flat. The Jazz won 11 more games this year than last, the second biggest increase in the league, and the biggest jump for any playoff team. If they're on the treadmill, so is the entire NBA. ::)
I consider any team with no ability to get over the hump a treadmill team. I don't see them getting any higher than maybe the 3 seed in the West. That's not entirely their fault tho no.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
While the C's are better, the Jazz are not a treadmill team. People really need to get a handle on that term. Thats for teams that regularly finish in the 35-45 win range, never getting top lottery picks, but also easy outs in the playoffs for a top 2 seed.
Treadmills are flat. The Jazz won 11 more games this year than last, the second biggest increase in the league, and the biggest jump for any playoff team. If they're on the treadmill, so is the entire NBA. ::)
I consider any team with no ability to get over the hump a treadmill team. I don't see them getting any higher than maybe the 3 seed in the West. That's not entirely their fault tho no.
Making this statement about the Jazz implies they are finished getting better as a team.
I don't think we've seen their peak yet at all.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
While the C's are better, the Jazz are not a treadmill team. People really need to get a handle on that term. Thats for teams that regularly finish in the 35-45 win range, never getting top lottery picks, but also easy outs in the playoffs for a top 2 seed.
Treadmills are flat. The Jazz won 11 more games this year than last, the second biggest increase in the league, and the biggest jump for any playoff team. If they're on the treadmill, so is the entire NBA. ::)
I consider any team with no ability to get over the hump a treadmill team. I don't see them getting any higher than maybe the 3 seed in the West. That's not entirely their fault tho no.
Making this statement about the Jazz implies they are finished getting better as a team.
I don't think we've seen their peak yet at all.
I assume you think Hayward doesn't leave then?
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
While the C's are better, the Jazz are not a treadmill team. People really need to get a handle on that term. Thats for teams that regularly finish in the 35-45 win range, never getting top lottery picks, but also easy outs in the playoffs for a top 2 seed.
Treadmills are flat. The Jazz won 11 more games this year than last, the second biggest increase in the league, and the biggest jump for any playoff team. If they're on the treadmill, so is the entire NBA. ::)
I consider any team with no ability to get over the hump a treadmill team. I don't see them getting any higher than maybe the 3 seed in the West. That's not entirely their fault tho no.
Please explain your definition of "ability to get over the hump."
Otherwise your statement is meaningless.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
The Jazz are a classic treadmill team. C's are a better team now and going into the future.
While the C's are better, the Jazz are not a treadmill team. People really need to get a handle on that term. Thats for teams that regularly finish in the 35-45 win range, never getting top lottery picks, but also easy outs in the playoffs for a top 2 seed.
Treadmills are flat. The Jazz won 11 more games this year than last, the second biggest increase in the league, and the biggest jump for any playoff team. If they're on the treadmill, so is the entire NBA. ::)
I consider any team with no ability to get over the hump a treadmill team. I don't see them getting any higher than maybe the 3 seed in the West. That's not entirely their fault tho no.
Please explain your definition of "ability to get over the hump."
Otherwise your statement is meaningless.
Being a legit contender.
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Man, the Jazz are going to lose this in 7 to a Griffin-less Clippers team. Crazy.
Even the more reason for Hayward to try some green on. :)
But if Hayward can't lead his team to a playoff win against the Clipper team without Blake Griffin, do we want Hayward? Does he really move the needle for the Celtics?
Hayward did great this series. his teammates didn't show up. its a team game.
I don't know where you're getting that. Hayward has played good, yeah, but Joe Johnson and George Hill have really stepped up as well. Rudy Gobert missed some games but the games he has played he's been excellent. This team should absolutely beat a Griffin-less Clipper team.
Hayward is a very good player. But I remain unconvinced that he's a great one.
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The m amazed Utah got beat at home and no Griffin either ...wow! Defense?
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Is it just me or is it hard to watch the Jazz?
There offense is basically the same EVERY TIME DOWN THE FLOOR. Always have a guy standing in each corner for spacing, high pick and roll.. no creativity. Except for those nice cuts that Hayward makes for oops it's just boring.
Current celtics basketball is SO much more interesting to watch, and that's without the goggles on.
Good luck to them though..
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Clippers remind me of the 2012 C's. Just completely cooked.
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The Clippers are done...time to blow it up Doc and run to another team.
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Blake, you'd look really good in Celtics green! ;D
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Can't wait for Doc's excuses for the Clippers' annual playoffs collapse besides Griffin's injury. Funny how he left Boston for a brighter situation and now Boston's present (and future) looks much better.
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The Truth's last quarter right here. :(
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Can't imagine we see this same iteration of the Clips next year, one of Paul, Griffin, or Jordan will be gone, along with likely Reddick.
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Doc choking in a game 7? Lol fitting close for pierce
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Doc is gone. Has to be at this point. Team has run it's course.
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Can't imagine we see this same iteration of the Clips next year, one of Paul, Griffin, or Jordan will be gone, along with likely Reddick.
That's what would be expected of a normal team but Doc's habit of sticking it to his core will probably see the Clippers run it back one more year again.
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Doc is gone. Has to be at this point. Team has run it's course.
I agree
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Not over yet
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Can't wait for Doc's excuses for the Clippers' annual playoffs collapse besides Griffin's injury. Funny how he left Boston for a brighter situation and now Boston's present (and future) looks much better.
lol
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I just love watching Paul throw his fits like a little child out there. Granted, he's getting no help out there, but still it's kind of embarrassing.
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kick ball...
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Doc isn't gone. He will be wanting to coach his kid
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Deandre jordan is such a liability. Can't believe danny wanted him at 1 point. 4th quarter they just swat him and he misses his ft
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Doc isn't gone. He will be wanting to coach his kid
He's still the GM, right? He can give his son a long-term contract and then step down.
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Game over. Bye bye Clippers, hello Blake Griffin!
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The truth is out of the building
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Game over. Bye bye Clippers, hello Blake Griffin!
Again, Great fit......Great Risk!!!
I'm going to Texas on Blake.
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Game over. Bye bye Clippers, hello Blake Griffin!
Yes, please! That passing in the front court!
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The Warriors will likely steamroll the Jazz, but Utah is a pretty bad matchup for GSW.
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remember that time Doc left for the better team and talent?
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The Warriors will likely steamroll the Jazz, but Utah is a pretty bad matchup for GSW.
GS will spread their bigs out and destroy them.
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The Warriors will likely steamroll the Jazz, but Utah is a pretty bad matchup for GSW.
GS will spread their bigs out and destroy them.
Yeah, Draymond or West at 5 neutralizes Gobert in a similar manner to Horford. However, a physical series at high altitude is far less desirable than a series against LAC. I think the Warriors pick up a bit more wear and tear in this series than they would've otherwise.
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Okay, so the analysts on the NBA Jump show just said that they either expect a sweep or a gentleman's sweep in the Raptors/Cavs series.
Really? How do others feel about that assessment? I know that I still was not impressed with the Cavs in the Pacers series, especially their lackluster D, even if it was a sweep. And I know that the Raptors have looked shaky at times this year.
However, theoretically, the Raptors have the perimeter and post pieces to give the Cavs D fits, but they also have at least the pieces to actually defend and make things difficult for the Cavs O.
I don't know. I'm not sure that this Raptors team is consistent enough to beat them, but I think they have the pieces to give them a lot of trouble. I can easily see a back and forth 7 game series between these teams.
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Okay, so the analysts on the NBA Jump show just said that they either expect a sweep or a gentleman's sweep in the Raptors/Cavs series.
Really? How do others feel about that assessment? I know that I still was not impressed with the Cavs in the Pacers series, especially their lackluster D, even if it was a sweep. And I know that the Raptors have looked shaky at times this year.
However, theoretically, the Raptors have the perimeter and post pieces to give the Cavs D fits, but they also have at least the pieces to actually defend and make things difficult for the Cavs O.
I don't know. I'm not sure that this Raptors team is consistent enough to beat them, but I think they have the pieces to give them a lot of trouble. I can easily see a back and forth 7 game series between these teams.
Pretty surprised by that. Not that whatever you're listening to is an actual good source material for understanding the game imo. Cavs should win in 5 or 6. You actually think this series can go in 7 though? It's amazing to me how you continue to disrespect the Cavs. They're going to sleepwalk to the Finals imo. Lebron will post up Smart and dunk on him like he did last time haha.
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Okay, so the analysts on the NBA Jump show just said that they either expect a sweep or a gentleman's sweep in the Raptors/Cavs series.
Really? How do others feel about that assessment? I know that I still was not impressed with the Cavs in the Pacers series, especially their lackluster D, even if it was a sweep. And I know that the Raptors have looked shaky at times this year.
However, theoretically, the Raptors have the perimeter and post pieces to give the Cavs D fits, but they also have at least the pieces to actually defend and make things difficult for the Cavs O.
I don't know. I'm not sure that this Raptors team is consistent enough to beat them, but I think they have the pieces to give them a lot of trouble. I can easily see a back and forth 7 game series between these teams.
Pretty surprised by that. Not that whatever you're listening to is an actual good source material for understanding the game imo. Cavs should win in 5 or 6. You actually think this series can go in 7 though? It's amazing to me how you continue to disrespect the Cavs. They're going to sleepwalk to the Finals imo. Lebron will post up Smart and dunk on him like he did last time haha.
I am a bit perplex by the idea that the Cavs will just steamroll the raptors. A few points to consider
Last year the series went 6 games without the Raptors having Ibaka or Tucker. The Raptors were starting Luis Scola in that series. I repeat the raptors were starting Luis Scola and still won 2 games.
The Cavs had a worse record the second half of the season than the Raptors despite the Raptors missing Lowry for most of it.
The Cavs may benefit from having a week off for the old legs, but they have poor frontcourt depth and 5 out of their top 8 players are over 30 with several approaching their mid 30's (williams, Korver, Jefferson)
Though the Cavs swept the Pacers, it was not like they steamrolled them. It was the smallest margin of defeat for a sweep in 20 years (16 points total!)
Irving has a banged up knee that seems to be really slowing him down.
The Cavs could obviously play well and hit all their 3's and dominate, but there are a lot of things that give you pause before assuming a 5 game Cavs victory.
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Raptors in 6. Stomp the queen!
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Raptors in 6. Stomp the queen!
I'd love to be the one to knock off the Cavs, but I wouldn't be mad to see the Raps do it either.
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Rockets propelling the Spurs in San Antonio. Unreal lol.
60-35 Rockets.
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Rockets propelling the Spurs in San Antonio. Unreal lol.
60-35 Rockets.
Propelling?
(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/Uberbah/thatword.jpg)
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Rockets propelling the Spurs in San Antonio. Unreal lol.
60-35 Rockets.
Propelling?
Maybe he meant this...
(https://img.rcgroups.com/http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/UlteriorModem/Prop.jpg?h=7Afim4rPSOLi6omAAb-Lpw)
On a related note, don't type 'propeller accident' in google images - way too gruesome for this site (or my eyes!) :o
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Rockets propelling the Spurs in San Antonio. Unreal lol.
60-35 Rockets.
Propelling?
Maybe he meant this...
(https://img.rcgroups.com/http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/UlteriorModem/Prop.jpg?h=7Afim4rPSOLi6omAAb-Lpw)
On a related note, don't type 'propeller accident' in google images - way too gruesome for this site (or my eyes!) :o
TP for the pic... and the advice.
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Rockets propelling the Spurs in San Antonio. Unreal lol.
60-35 Rockets.
Propelling?
I happen to have some very intriguing word choices in my list of vocabularies :angel:
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Nene ejected , throat grab to dedmon (whoever that is)
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I get so tired of Pop's "smug/mean schtick." It's so played out and obvious.
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Classic Game 1 aberration that was.
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And just like that...Houston Rockets blew up the Spurs and stealing home-court advantage in the process.
Not so tough are ya now eh San Antonio
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Late on this, but my predictions:
Boston in 7
Cleveland in 5
Golden State in 5
San Antonio in 7
Yes, I'm still sticking by SAS in 7, I expect them to rebound. I originally had CLE in 6, but Toronto don't look confident out there and I think not having Biyombo now really hurts them at the front court. I think the Jazz will take Golden State to quite a few close games but at the end, GSW reigns supreme. I do think if it was LAC vs. Golden State, GSW would have swept them easily.
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It's possible the Rockets are a worse matchup for San Antonion than I reazlied. Lowe picked the Rockets in 6 which seems pretty feasible right now.
But also wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs came out and won 4 of the next 5 games, either. Pop will make some adjustments and Kawhi will shoot better.
Crazy game 1 for the series, though.
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Late on this, but my predictions:
Boston in 7
Cleveland in 5
Golden State in 5
San Antonio in 7
Yes, I'm still sticking by SAS in 7, I expect them to rebound. I originally had CLE in 6, but Toronto don't look confident out there and I think not having Biyombo now really hurts them at the front court. I think the Jazz will take Golden State to quite a few close games but at the end, GSW reigns supreme. I do think if it was LAC vs. Golden State, GSW would have swept them easily.
I also originally had this being a lengthy series with the possibility that Toronto would actually win. I will admit my confidence in that outcome was shaken by the game 1. That being said, could their frontcourt be really weaker with Ibaka and Tucker replacing Byombo?
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Griffin coming to Boston is so perfect there's no way it will happen.
Mike
So painfully true.....
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Late on this, but my predictions:
Boston in 7
Cleveland in 5
Golden State in 5
San Antonio in 7
Yes, I'm still sticking by SAS in 7, I expect them to rebound. I originally had CLE in 6, but Toronto don't look confident out there and I think not having Biyombo now really hurts them at the front court. I think the Jazz will take Golden State to quite a few close games but at the end, GSW reigns supreme. I do think if it was LAC vs. Golden State, GSW would have swept them easily.
I also originally had this being a lengthy series with the possibility that Toronto would actually win. I will admit my confidence in that outcome was shaken by the game 1. That being said, could their frontcourt be really weaker with Ibaka and Tucker replacing Byombo?
Toronto is notoriously terrible in game ones, like a 1-12 all-time record terrible. It's almost become a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point, so I expect a much closer game two and rest of series.
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Man, Derozan has been downright terrible and a no-show this series so far. The Raptors as a whole have just been playing like garbage. They clearly are intimidated by the Cavs.
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Man, Derozan has been downright terrible and a no-show this series so far. The Raptors as a whole have just been playing like garbage. They clearly are intimidated by the Cavs.
They went out and got Ibaka/Tucker yet still let LeBron scare them. Gotta punch the Cavs in the mouth!
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Late on this, but my predictions:
Boston in 7
Cleveland in 5
Golden State in 5
San Antonio in 7
Yes, I'm still sticking by SAS in 7, I expect them to rebound. I originally had CLE in 6, but Toronto don't look confident out there and I think not having Biyombo now really hurts them at the front court. I think the Jazz will take Golden State to quite a few close games but at the end, GSW reigns supreme. I do think if it was LAC vs. Golden State, GSW would have swept them easily.
I also originally had this being a lengthy series with the possibility that Toronto would actually win. I will admit my confidence in that outcome was shaken by the game 1. That being said, could their frontcourt be really weaker with Ibaka and Tucker replacing Byombo?
JV is getting killed in PnRs. He's too slow to cover the perimeter. If I were Dwayne Casey, I'd play small-ball with Ibaka at 5 to counter Cav's small ball lineup.
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raptors suck
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Late on this, but my predictions:
Boston in 7
Cleveland in 5
Golden State in 5
San Antonio in 7
Yes, I'm still sticking by SAS in 7, I expect them to rebound. I originally had CLE in 6, but Toronto don't look confident out there and I think not having Biyombo now really hurts them at the front court. I think the Jazz will take Golden State to quite a few close games but at the end, GSW reigns supreme. I do think if it was LAC vs. Golden State, GSW would have swept them easily.
Perhaps. Kawai has to play at a high level and Houston seems formidable.
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Lebron with his flopping again
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This is like a regular season game. Literally no fear from the Cavs. LeBron isn't even breaking a sweat.
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LOL. LeBron isn't even pretending to respect the Raps.
https://twitter.com/DefPenHoops/status/859917767016886272 (https://twitter.com/DefPenHoops/status/859917767016886272)
And why should he?
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Everyone says, "IT won't be this effective in the playoffs".. yadda yadda.
What about Lowry and DeRozan? LOL DeRozan 1 point on 0-9 shooting.
Overrated postseason chokers.
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In less than two games, Derozan is a -52 in this series so far. How's that max contract looking? lol
So, if this continues on and the Raptors get swept or lose in 5, can they really afford to pay Lowry the max this summer, too?
The Cavs are just a bad matchup for the Raptors. They have no way to stop Lebron, and that's compounded by the fact that their perimeter D is also bad, meaning the Cavs can get whatever they want. We matchup much better with the Cavs than Toronto, and Toronto matches up much better with us than Cleveland.
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raptors suck
But they traded for Ibaka AND Tucker!!! You are wrong!
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I love that if we can get by the Wiz, it will be pretty settled that our team is one of only two legit teams in the East. The fact that we have the assets of a rebuilding team and they are giving stuff away for Ibaka, PJ and Bogdanovich is just icing on the cake.
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DeRozan with a whopping 5 points tonight.
Lowry and DeRozan proving to be true chokers in the playoffs.
It would be one thing if they kept scoring like 25+ and lost close contests, but most of the time in the playoffs, one or both of the guys completely chokes in a game and scores less than 15.
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Lebron is killing Toronto
He went to the line..20 times tonight
nobody can stay in front of him.... nobody can block him near the rim
If the celts can get by the Wizards... need a serious game plan to slow down this guy
My idea
Have Jaylen Brown guard him.... yes he is only a rookie and gives up 20-25 pounds...but he is the one guy in the team that can hang with him in the "explosiveness" category. Has the wingspan and is a pretty strong kid
Also i would cheat and make lebron shoot the ball , all day and night..... don't allow him to drive past you... with him having a million options to pass to. Let him shoot...and if he nails 10 3s... its better to lose that way vs have him "play" with you
Just please don't put Crowder on him... the experiment has failed too many times
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Raptors wanted us in the second round...too bad we squeezed the top seed.
For some reason Derozan's kryptonite is lebron and the Cavs.
But when he plays the Cs he can put up 40 points easily.
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Also Jaylen is the only one in the Celts lineup that could get Lebron in a little foul trouble
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Raptors wanted us in the second round...too bad we squeezed the top seed.
For some reason Derozan's kryptonite is lebron and the Cavs.
But when he plays the Cs he can put up 40 points easily.
Because he torches Crowder
Brown should have guarded Derozan
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Lebron is killing Toronto
He went to the line..20 times tonight
nobody can stay in front of him.... nobody can block him near the rim
If the celts can get by the Wizards... need a serious game plan to slow down this guy
My idea
Have Jaylen Brown guard him.... yes he is only a rookie and gives up 20-25 pounds...but he is the one guy in the team that can hang with him in the "explosiveness" category. Has the wingspan and is a pretty strong kid
Also i would cheat and make lebron shoot the ball , all day and night..... don't allow him to drive past you... with him having a million options to pass to. Let him shoot...and if he nails 10 3s... its better to lose that way vs have him "play" with you
Just please don't put Crowder on him... the experiment has failed too many times
The problem is they play the 1-3 pick n roll wihich plays to their hands...all they would do is pick who IT is guarding and forces the switch...by then there is nothing we can do and Lebron will have his way...double him and he finds the open man
I have no idea how Stevens is gonna game plan lebron but lets get rid of the pesky Wizards first then worrry bout lebron after.
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James Harden is playing some classic James Harden defense out there tonight.
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Tony Parker not getting up, knee issue. Hope it isn't bad
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Uh-oh. Really looks like Parker knows he messed up his knee badly. Terrible to see.
He didn't even land on the knee, it must've happened on the jump.
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
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Harden plays like poop when calls doesn't go his way.
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
Boy, that Chris Paul to San Antonio storyline just got quite a bit more interesting, huh?
Man, I'd really love to see that. I'd actually like to be able to root for Paul once in his career. I can't do it with how he acts out on the court PLUS the fact that he's an LA guy now.
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Just gift wrap the Western Conference to the Warriors already lol.
It's gonna be a sweep against Utah. And with Parker out (for probably the rest of the season with the look on that injury), no chance to stop Steph Curry or James Harden.
Unless Houston ends up upsetting the Spurs, which I hope they do now if they want anyone to stop or slow GSW before hitting the finals.
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
Boy, that Chris Paul to San Antonio storyline just got quite a bit more interesting, huh?
Man, I'd really love to see that. I'd actually like to be able to root for Paul once in his career. I can't do it with how he acts out on the court PLUS the fact that he's an LA guy now.
Not sure where that story line is coming from unless Paul is willing to leave a lot of cash on the table. Spurs would have a very difficult time of coming closer than about $3 million of his max, and that's assuming Pau opts out and Green is traded. Not to mention he won't make up the lost salary from turning down a 5th year.
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Just gift wrap the Western Conference to the Warriors already lol.
It's gonna be a sweep against Utah. And with Parker out (for probably the rest of the season with the look on that injury), no chance to stop Steph Curry or James Harden.
Unless Houston ends up upsetting the Spurs, which I hope they do now if they want anyone to stop or slow GSW before hitting the finals.
Im not sure Parker is gonna make much difference. Same thing happened back in 2014 when he also went down in the Finals. Patty Mills is a better player at this point as he is a better defender than Parker. I think Dejountay Murray will finally get unleashed as Mills needs someone to back him up.
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LOL @ the Raptors. Choking dogs.
Keep in mind that just 2 years ago they were swept by the Wizards, culminating in a 29-point beatdown at home.
For a team with 2 stars, they are pretty hopeless.
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LOL @ the Raptors. Choking dogs.
Keep in mind that just 2 years ago they were swept by the Wizards, culminating in a 29-point beatdown at home.
For a team with 2 stars, they are pretty hopeless.
Paul Pierce was the Raptors' kryptonite. They made it far last year because PP34 went to the west. ;)
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James Harden scored zero points and turned the ball over twice when Kawhi Leonard was Harden's primary defender Wednesday night.
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
Boy, that Chris Paul to San Antonio storyline just got quite a bit more interesting, huh?
Man, I'd really love to see that. I'd actually like to be able to root for Paul once in his career. I can't do it with how he acts out on the court PLUS the fact that he's an LA guy now.
Not sure where that story line is coming from unless Paul is willing to leave a lot of cash on the table. Spurs would have a very difficult time of coming closer than about $3 million of his max, and that's assuming Pau opts out and Green is traded. Not to mention he won't make up the lost salary from turning down a 5th year.
I actually see Jeremy Lin low key being traded to the Spurs for peanuts
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
Boy, that Chris Paul to San Antonio storyline just got quite a bit more interesting, huh?
Man, I'd really love to see that. I'd actually like to be able to root for Paul once in his career. I can't do it with how he acts out on the court PLUS the fact that he's an LA guy now.
Not sure where that story line is coming from unless Paul is willing to leave a lot of cash on the table. Spurs would have a very difficult time of coming closer than about $3 million of his max, and that's assuming Pau opts out and Green is traded. Not to mention he won't make up the lost salary from turning down a 5th year.
On the one hand, Chris Paul seems like the type that might take a little pay cut to play for the Spurs before he's too old.
On the other hand, as the president of the players' union Paul just helped negotiate a rule change that would allow older players to keep getting max contracts which reads like he's not planning on taking a pay cut for anyone.
So who knows.
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
Boy, that Chris Paul to San Antonio storyline just got quite a bit more interesting, huh?
Man, I'd really love to see that. I'd actually like to be able to root for Paul once in his career. I can't do it with how he acts out on the court PLUS the fact that he's an LA guy now.
Yeah, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I'd love to see him in San Antonio. I don't know how greedy he is vs wanting to win, but I'm sure all those insurance commercials have given him a lot of extra money.
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Is parkers career over? It must have been an ACL. He had to be carried off
Boy, that Chris Paul to San Antonio storyline just got quite a bit more interesting, huh?
Man, I'd really love to see that. I'd actually like to be able to root for Paul once in his career. I can't do it with how he acts out on the court PLUS the fact that he's an LA guy now.
Not sure where that story line is coming from unless Paul is willing to leave a lot of cash on the table. Spurs would have a very difficult time of coming closer than about $3 million of his max, and that's assuming Pau opts out and Green is traded. Not to mention he won't make up the lost salary from turning down a 5th year.
I actually see Jeremy Lin low key being traded to the Spurs for peanuts
Lin doesn't really strike me as a pops guy. Kind of has a bit of a "hey look at me personality" which is kind of the opposite of how the Spurs operate.
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Oh boy, now Draymond Green is down holding his knee. He tried running on it and immediately went back down.
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Glad we didn't get exum
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Gobert is bad at finishing with contact.
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The plan since day 1 was for us to steal a road game from Washington. We can accomplish that soon
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Even the Jazz played better than the Celtics.
But then again, two completely different teams.
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Raptors are much better playing small ball with Ibaka at 5. Masai made a huge mistake by letting Biyombo go.
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If Toronto could make a shot, they'd be winning easily. They're getting really easy open looks, but they just can't knock them down.
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Game over for the Raptors if they let this one slip up.
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raptors are in big trouble down 9 with 8 mins to go in game
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Bye Raptors :(
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17-1 run for cavs.
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good morning
good afternoon
and................
good night Toronto! We hardly knew ye!
BALLGAME and series is for all intents and purposes............. over!!
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Welp, Toronto has really disappointed me. They just criminally underperform in the playoffs. No way should they have been dominated so far like they have in this series. It also doesn't help that they have been about as off as one can be from beyond the arc. You can't win games against Cleveland only making 2-15 threes.
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Disappointing showing by the Raptors
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TO looks like hot garbage
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Hubie Brown is the worst
Clear goaltend by LBj, up close through the backboard replay-- hubie's comment, 'perfectly timed by LBJ'.
The king truly wears no clothes.
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Welp, Toronto has really disappointed me. They just criminally underperform in the playoffs. No way should they have been dominated so far like they have in this series. It also doesn't help that they have been about as off as one can be from beyond the arc. You can't win games against Cleveland only making 2-15 threes.
Lowry injury really hurts. He was their motor all year
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my buddy in canada is crying in his cherrios right now. I asked him to help us with the cavs. SO MUCH FOR THAT!!!!!!!! :-[
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So, does Carroll not even play anymore for the Raptors? Wasn't he supposed to be their defensive answer for Lebron, along with PJ Tucker?
At least we have several guys that can at least attempt to come close to slowing down Lebron.
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LBJ without the monkey on his back is a playoff destroyer. He was always great but it's another lvl now.
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LBJ without the monkey on his back is a playoff destroyer. He was always great but it's another lvl now.
It helps when Toronto gives him literally no resistance lol I think Norman Powell was guarding him for most of the game, which is pretty much no resistance given his size and talent disparity over Powell.
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I think the Celtics could've beaten the Raptors handily in the playoffs if they'd face off in the East Semis.
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I think the Celtics could've beaten the Raptors handily in the playoffs if they'd face off in the East Semis.
IF we had Ibaka and Valunciunas down low it would help us outside so much. It really shows how bad the others were for TO.
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ok so that series is over. Now it is cavs versus either celtics or WHIZZ. will be up to a western team to take out lebron as usual.
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We have to root for the raptors winning a few. We need lebron more tired when he faces us and no chance at studying video.
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We have to root for the raptors winning a few. We need lebron more tired when he faces us and no chance at studying video.
They are done like dinner. sorry to break it to you. they may get lucky if the cavs take their foot off the gas and win game 4 but cavs if not a sweep will win in 5.
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DeRozan finally showed up of course without Lowry it wasn't going to matter.
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Such an ugly game for the Rockets-Spurs so far. Both shooting at abysmal FG%
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Disappointing showing by the Raptors
The miami Heat would have given the Cavs a much much better fight than the raptors
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Cavs will prob sweep the raptors
Maybe only way to beat lebron is he retires one of these days
Just hate the thought of him making the finals again...
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Raptors probably won't even resign Ibaka at the end of the year.
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Spurs-Rockets are perfect example of why defense matters in the playoffs.
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Cavs will prob sweep the raptors
Maybe only way to beat lebron is he retires one of these days
Just hate the thought of him making the finals again...
We all do, but it's just something we're going to have to live with a while longer...before age eventually catches up with him.
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Cavs will prob sweep the raptors
Maybe only way to beat lebron is he retires one of these days
Just hate the thought of him making the finals again...
We all do, but it's just something we're going to have to live with a while longer...before age eventually catches up with him.
From what I am hearing he is in tremendous shape and is doing all the right things to stay there, ala Brady. He takes his craft seriously and that is why his team follows suit. He might be successful into his late thirties with how he is going about his business.
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Raptors probably won't even resign Ibaka at the end of the year.
And this is why trading a younger player +/- a pick for a rental is almost always a bad idea.
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Raptors probably won't even resign Ibaka at the end of the year.
And this is why trading a younger player +/- a pick for a rental is almost always a bad idea.
Agreed. Also , don't forget about the PJ Tucker trade.
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yeah i am no fan of rentals either
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Jazz are playing well tonight but still can't catch Golden State...
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Jazz are only down 4 and giving The warriors all they can handle.
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As long as they keep it close, the Jazz have a puncher's chance.
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As long as they keep it close, the Jazz have a puncher's chance.
Jazz only down one now....
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I would let Durant live in those isolation and keep his teammates on check. I can live with Durant putting 30+ pts with his teammates sealed.
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Hayward is a beast
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hopfully jazz win a game .
raptors folded like a cheap lawn chair .
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curry builds a new brick building in utah
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curry builds a new brick building in utah
He got bored playing in Utah ;)
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Why would you leave Curry open in those transition 3's?
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Hayward looking good
Hoping he signs with the Celts next season
Then imagine
2017 nets, crowder for porzingis
Horford
Porzingis
Hayward
AB
IT4
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Way to blow an open layup
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Everything going Dubs' way now and Utah can't hit an open shot. The KD signing was huge for GS because when Curry and Klay stall, there's a pretty good "backup plan".
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GW may not be able to beat Lebron ......gonna have to outscore the king ...or he will hang another banner
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Omg, how dumb are Van Gundy and Jackson? They're literally calling that push by Durant the same thing as the running shove by Oubre, and they said that KO flopped...
I swear, these people can't be this blind and/or dumb, can they?
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Can van gundy shut up
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Omg, how dumb are Van Gundy and Jackson? They're literally calling that push by Durant the same thing as the running shove by Oubre, and they said that KO flopped...
I swear, these people can't be this blind and/or dumb, can they?
Unfortunately people hate the Celtics for some weird reason
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I know this is pretty absurd to say given Gobert's performance, but his missed FTs are hurting Utah a lot too.
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Durant and Curry just draining 3s now. Nothing Utah can do honestly.
I guess that's how teams (like Bulls last series) feel when the Celtics do the same lol.
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Crushing..
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
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Strange move taking Ingles out at the end and replacing him with Hood. Hood was abysmal tonight. Ingles meanwhile was playing fantastic defense and hitting his shots.
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
Durant would...
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Moving out of the west and in to the much weaker east might also be a motivation.
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
wont make you better than the Cavs unless Lebron declines. I do think it could put you in a situation. where you could be close enough to them that with a bit of luck you could certainly beat them.
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If we reach the ECF this playoffs, Hayward would be a real possibility after his team gets swept.
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
Hayward was very impressive and would love for him to join the C's. The best thing is we don't have to trade anyone we can just straight up sign this guy. would be nice if we can at least get to ECF to impress him
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
You'd still need an upgrade (a legit starter) at the 4 between Horford and Hayward, but I think it'd be close, depending upon what other moves we made.
Now on the other hand, I still hold that signing Griffin alone would put us right in the conversation with Cleveland, let alone the other additions we make.
I just think we need much more of an upgrade at that big position that signing Hayward is only as good as the improvement that we get at the 4.
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
You'd still need an upgrade (a legit starter) at the 4 between Horford and Hayward, but I think it'd be close, depending upon what other moves we made.
Now on the other hand, I still hold that signing Griffin alone would put us right in the conversation with Cleveland, let alone the other additions we make.
I just think we need much more of an upgrade at that big position that signing Hayward is only as good as the improvement that we get at the 4.
The problem with Griffin is injuries. He's a perfect fit, but [dang] he's a huge risk.
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Dang, Kevin Durant is undefeated in the playoffs under a new uniform.
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Dang, Kevin Durant is undefeated in the playoffs under a new uniform.
that is what happens when you add arguably the best scorer in the league to the best team in the league.
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Dang, Kevin Durant is undefeated in the playoffs under a new uniform.
They looked pretty bad as a whole this last game though. Watch Cleveland spank them in the Finals.
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Dang, Kevin Durant is undefeated in the playoffs under a new uniform.
They looked pretty bad as a whole this last game though. Watch Cleveland spank them in the Finals.
Please no more with Cleveland. They can't lose enough for me.
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Dang, Kevin Durant is undefeated in the playoffs under a new uniform.
They looked pretty bad as a whole this last game though. Watch Cleveland spank them in the Finals.
Please no more with Cleveland. They can't lose enough for me.
I look at it a little differently. While not the world's greatest Lebron fan, there is no way in heck that I want Durant to win a title with the Warriors.
The Jazz ain't stopping them, and not sure SAS/Houston can either...but if they reach the finals you can bet I'll be rooting for the Cavs all the way! :)
Rak
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The problem with the Jazz is they don't have any lockdown defender on the perimeter to contain Curry, Klay and Draymond or just their overall ball movement. If you successfully turn the Warrior's offense into KD iso, you have 75% chance of winning.
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Well, hopefully the Jazz get swept now in order to increase the chance of Hayward considering leaving.
Hayward scored 29 points even with Golden State hounding and defending him VERY WELL.
I'll admit, that's impressive.
Not enough to beat GSW though.
Would Hayward on this Celtics team be enough to dethrone Cleveland?
You'd still need an upgrade (a legit starter) at the 4 between Horford and Hayward, but I think it'd be close, depending upon what other moves we made.
Now on the other hand, I still hold that signing Griffin alone would put us right in the conversation with Cleveland, let alone the other additions we make.
I just think we need much more of an upgrade at that big position that signing Hayward is only as good as the improvement that we get at the 4.
I agree with needing an upgrade with the bigs to help Horford, but Griffin is iffy. He's been out the last two playoffs. Kinda like AB, great when he's on the floor, when he's not hurt and off it.
Hayward moves the needled, great ball handler, moves side to side, has every shot on the floor, and tough. Better defender than credit, maybe not as strong as Crowder, but moves his feet better.
Maybe C's and pull Ibaka for cheap away form Toronto, or send a pick and Young to NY for O'Quinn.
But with our picks we could have
IT/Smart/Rozeir
AB/Fultz
Hayward/Crowder/Brown
Ibaka or Quinn/Yabu
Hiordord/Zizic
Maybe KO? GReen? not sure how things would work with signing Hawyard.
But that bench, man, you'd have a great scoring and defensive bench. Even if its Jackson, it's still good. Stronger defensively, but man thats an athletic team on top of it.
WE'd have more of a hockey team, just roll out line after line, punch after punch. Could be fun. Hayward gives the starting and finishing unit an other guy who can get his own, and space the floor for IT.
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If GSW sweep the Jazz I think that pushes Hayward away. He wasn't happy with the last contract offer. And the Jazz will have a hard time adding better players. Too good for top ten picks, not good enough to attract FA's to put them over the top. He'd have to wait for Exum and Golbert to reach their potentials, and thats a couple years away.
They had a hard time with a limping Clips team. T-Wolves could be much better next season if they make a right move. Spurs are still the Spurs, Portland could be a surprise next season, Huston got tougher. And teams like Lakers,Kings,Nuggets,Suns,Pel, could all make jumps with good picks in the next couple years.
We're built for now and future.
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Dang, Kevin Durant is undefeated in the playoffs under a new uniform.
They looked pretty bad as a whole this last game though. Watch Cleveland spank them in the Finals.
Please no more with Cleveland. They can't lose enough for me.
I look at it a little differently. While not the world's greatest Lebron fan, there is no way in heck that I want Durant to win a title with the Warriors.
The Jazz ain't stopping them, and not sure SAS/Houston can either...but if they reach the finals you can bet I'll be rooting for the Cavs all the way! :)
Rak
Pretty much this.
Meanwhile, on our end, wouldn't it be great if we could sign Hayward, and then also make a huge splash via trade? Something like the 2BKN picks + Crowder + filler for Melo and Porzingis. I mean, who knows, Knicks might bite because it's 2 top lottery picks, Crowder was the one that got away, and they get to unload Melo!
IT/Smart
Hayward/Bradley
Melo/Brown
Porzingis/Yabu
Horford/Zizic
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No Lowry today. Could very well be his last game as a Raptor with how things have gone this year. Highly doubt Toronto can extend this series without him, which screws us once more.
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Toronto just fell out. No fight at all...
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Pathetic showing from Toronto. Cavs just cruised through this series. Their offense stinks.
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More rest for the Bronnies
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Pathetic showing from Toronto. Cavs just cruised through this series. Their offense stinks.
Toronto went all in with deadline deals and got swept out in the 2nd round. They gave up draft picks and Lowery is a free agent and past his prime.
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I think the Cavs sweep the whole conference.
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Pathetic showing from Toronto. Cavs just cruised through this series. Their offense stinks.
Toronto went all in with deadline deals and got swept out in the 2nd round. They gave up draft picks and Lowery is a free agent and past his prime.
It sounds like the House Republicans with the HCA bill ;D
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I think the Cavs sweep the whole conference.
Naw, both Boston and Washington can give them much more competition and trouble. The Raptors are just fearful of the Cavs and have just never been a good playoff team.
Toronto literally played bad every game that series, though the last two at home without Lowry are a bit more understandable.
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Pathetic showing from Toronto. Cavs just cruised through this series. Their offense stinks.
Toronto went all in with deadline deals and got swept out in the 2nd round. They gave up draft picks and Lowery is a free agent and past his prime.
It sounds like the House Republicans with the HCA bill ;D
Similar situations! ;D
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I think the Cavs sweep the whole conference.
Naw, both Boston and Washington can give them more competition and trouble. The Raptors are just fearful of the Cavs and have just never been a good playoff team.
Not true. Last years raptors team were decent
Losing biyombo, johnson plus lowry injury = sweep
Ibaka was pure mediocre in this series...
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I think the Cavs sweep the whole conference.
Naw, both Boston and Washington can give them more competition and trouble. The Raptors are just fearful of the Cavs and have just never been a good playoff team.
Not true. Last years raptors team were decent
Losing biyombo, johnson plus lowry injury = sweep
Ibaka was pure mediocre in this series...
Ibaka looks like a vet minimum guy at this point...
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I think the Cavs sweep the whole conference.
Naw, both Boston and Washington can give them much more competition and trouble. The Raptors are just fearful of the Cavs and have just never been a good playoff team.
Toronto literally played bad every game that series, though the last two at home without Lowry are a bit more understandable.
Meh, Washington's bench is too horrible. The Celtics weaknesses are too exploitable.
The margin for error is sadly too small for every game due to the disparity in talent. Doubt either team can overcome it.
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The Rockets is also blowing out the Spurs. At least the lost against Washington doesn't look too bad now.
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The Rockets is also blowing out the Spurs. At least the lost against Washington doesn't look too bad now.
Giving up a 26-0 run after giving up a 22-0 in the previous game, in two straight blowout losses, has no silver lining.
Looks bad no matter the context.
As for Spurs - Rox, I'm pretty sure this is going 7, and I have no idea who is going to win.
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The Rockets is also blowing out the Spurs. At least the lost against Washington doesn't look too bad now.
Giving up a 26-0 run after giving up a 22-0 in the previous game, in two straight blowout losses, has no silver lining.
Looks bad no matter the context.
As for Spurs - Rox, I'm pretty sure this is going 7, and I have no idea who is going to win.
They are playing on the Washington homecourt. It's expected that Wizards will have more energy. In the playoffs, you are only good as your last game. If Wizards manage to steal our homecourt, then its a concern.
Both losses of the Spurs came from a blowout.
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Nene out for the rest of the postseason with left abductor tear.
Big loss for Houston's bench. He was key in the last round. Not sure but I don't think the Rockets bench has any other centers to step in and replace Nene in the rotation. Tough situation.
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NBA got to find a way to make this league more competitive .
Watching Cavs or warriors is plain boring.
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NBA got to find a way to make this league more competitive .
Watching Cavs or warriors is plain boring.
I agree. These have been the least enjoyable playoffs I can remember. Utah Clippers was a competitive series, but was also less enjoyable because of injuries to Paul and Gobert. Wizards Hawks had a few moments, as did Bulls Celtics and Celtics Wizards. None of those teams are a real threat to win it all though.
So are going to end up with, what, 3 meaningful playoff series the whole time? (Rockets/Spurs, Rockets/Warriors, Cavs Warriors) Wonder if ratings are not down from some other years where you really could see more than 2 teams actually winning it all.
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowry is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
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The Rockets is also blowing out the Spurs. At least the lost against Washington doesn't look too bad now.
Giving up a 26-0 run after giving up a 22-0 in the previous game, in two straight blowout losses, has no silver lining.
Looks bad no matter the context.
As for Spurs - Rox, I'm pretty sure this is going 7, and I have no idea who is going to win.
As Ryan Bernadoni stated on Twitter, the Leonard-lead, Popovich Spurs have been blown out in two games against the Rockets, similar to the Cs.
A loss is a loss. Hopefully the Cs care less about the margin than the fans do.
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowry is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
Spurs seem like such a logical fit, it's hard to see it not happening now. Leonard/Lowry/Aldridge is pretty competitive. I'd give that core a chance against GSW.
I could see LA targeting DeRozan, too, but timing might screw that up. If Magic and the Lakers can show some restraint and not make a draft day deal, I think DeRozan could be had after free agency plays out. Potentially, DeRozan and PG could be a good pairing. Don't know how the rest of the roster shapes up, but that could be a solid duo.
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The Rockets is also blowing out the Spurs. At least the lost against Washington doesn't look too bad now.
Giving up a 26-0 run after giving up a 22-0 in the previous game, in two straight blowout losses, has no silver lining.
Looks bad no matter the context.
As for Spurs - Rox, I'm pretty sure this is going 7, and I have no idea who is going to win.
As Ryan Bernadoni stated on Twitter, the Leonard-lead, Popovich Spurs have been blown out in two games against the Rockets, similar to the Cs.
A loss is a loss. Hopefully the Cs care less about the margin than the fans do.
It's not just about the margin, it's how we got there. Nevermind the rebounding disparity because it's comical at this point, but these last two games have really highlighted 2 concerns I have about this current team:
1.) the Isaiah conundrum. There's no question he's a special offensive player but his defense can take you out of games. They are ATTACKING him defensively right now. Every player he guards goes right into posting him up and he can't hang. Particularly with Washington's starting unit, there's nowhere to hide him defensively. Wall? Lol. Beal? Nope. Otto? Nah. But he's your only offensive threat, so you have to ride with him and hope for the best. Which brings me to...
2.) No consistent offense outside of Isaiah. We have a bunch of jumpshooters who don't really bring anything to the table offensively if they're not hitting 3's. That's a problem. If IT isn't making things happen and guys aren't hitting wide open shots, we have no post presence or secondary shot creator to go to. The closest is Avery Bradley and while he's much improved, Avery cannot be your second best perimeter scorer. You can try to give it to Al in the post, but he wants to - or we're asking him to, I'm not sure - be a jumpshooter too.
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And with AB nursing a hip pointer....we are doomed.
Im sad now knowing this might be the end of our season.
I really dont know what to make of our struggles now...I just want to trade Crowder and Smart right about now.
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowery is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
Unless Parker retires and Gasol opts out, the Spurs aren't anywhere close to having enough cap space to get Paul or Lowery.
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowery is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
Unless Parker retires and Gasol opts out, the Spurs aren't anywhere close to having enough cap space to get Paul or Lowery.
they could trade gasol to the nets with a pick
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowery is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
Unless Parker retires and Gasol opts out, the Spurs aren't anywhere close to having enough cap space to get Paul or Lowery.
they could trade gasol to the nets with a pick
Mills and Simmons are free agents and Dedmon has a small player option so he'll probably opt out. If they don't resign any of them and dump Gasol via trade, the Spurs would have about 29M in cap space so Paul and Lowry would still be taking significantly less than their MAX.
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowery is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
Unless Parker retires and Gasol opts out, the Spurs aren't anywhere close to having enough cap space to get Paul or Lowery.
they could trade gasol to the nets with a pick
Mills and Simmons are free agents and Dedmon has a small player option so he'll probably opt out. If they don't resign any of them and dump Gasol via trade, the Spurs would have about 29M in cap space so Paul and Lowry would still be taking significantly less than their MAX.
We're going to have similar issues creating a max slot but people are still putting us in the convo for the likes of Hayward and Griffin. We've seen crazier things happen and as we saw GS create the space to get Durant, there's a path.
And the Nets make PERFECT sense as a trade partner. They're on the hunt for assets so why not take Gasol with a pick if he opts in? It's not like they own their pick in 2018, so what do they care if he adds a few more wins. Put with Lin and Brook and add a little more entertainment value to your team.
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And with AB nursing a hip pointer....we are doomed.
Im sad now knowing this might be the end of our season.
I really dont know what to make of our struggles now...I just want to trade Crowder and Smart right about now.
We were never going to beat CLE anyways, I wish I was wrong about that but only the delusional thinks this could happen barring a CAVs bus crash injuring some of their guys.
Ainge said he believes in miracles, and I respect that. But it is obviously we could use some help in scoring and on the boards during the playoffs. Boogie would have helped us with both. I hope his master plan works because CBS is desperate for help.
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This team has faced a lot of adversity and overcome it. We were down 2 games and they were saying it's almost never happened the comeback 1 seed being down 2 games. Now we're tied and a lot of people again writing off the team.
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The best thing about these playoffs for the Celtics has been the playoff experience that Brad Stevens is getting. He's like a rookie or 2nd year talented player in the playoffs. They have the talent but will make rookie mistakes and need to be thrown into the fire and struggle before they learn.
He is pretty raw in this setting, and has made some mistakes, as anyone would expect. He is also quickly learning and making adjustments, as evident in the Bulls series. He still has to figure it out in this series against the Wizards, but this is forcing him to think out of his comfort zone and learn on the job. It's going to be of huge value going forward for the future of this team.
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
Why do you want to take a gamble on Griffin? What is the arguement? He would fit great if healthy. Not sure why take the risk when Hayward is available. He's a big upgrade over Bradley or Crowder. He is also one year younger than Griffin.
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
Why do you want to take a gamble on Griffin? What is the arguement? He would fit great if healthy. Not sure why take the risk when Hayward is available. He's a big upgrade over Bradley or Crowder. He is also one year younger than Griffin.
Our priority list should be:
Paul George
Gordon Hayward
Jimmy Butler
If we land 1-2 of those guys, then we go after a mobile , young rebounder/shot blocker to anchor the defense.
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
Why do you want to take a gamble on Griffin? What is the arguement? He would fit great if healthy. Not sure why take the risk when Hayward is available. He's a big upgrade over Bradley or Crowder. He is also one year younger than Griffin.
When healthy, which is a big factor I admit, Griffin is quite a bit better than Hayward.
He also plays a position where we desperately need a starter, where you could easily consider Hayward redundant with AB and Crowder. (And actually, I think both AB and Jae are the perfect type of 3 and D role players to put in between a secondary scorer in Griffin and IT, along with Al.)
Finally, Griffin is an absolute perfect fit offensively with this group, especially with his passing, playmaking, and increased range. Hayward is also a good fit, but we MUST also add a starting 4 alongside him, which is why Griffin might be the better overall choice.
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
Why do you want to take a gamble on Griffin? What is the arguement? He would fit great if healthy. Not sure why take the risk when Hayward is available. He's a big upgrade over Bradley or Crowder. He is also one year younger than Griffin.
When healthy, which is a big factor I admit, Griffin is quite a bit better than Hayward.
He also plays a position where we desperately need a starter, where you could easily consider Hayward redundant with AB and Crowder. (And actually, I think both AB and Jae are the perfect type of 3 and D role players to put in between a secondary scorer in Griffin and IT, along with Al.)
Finally, Griffin is an absolute perfect fit offensively with this group, especially with his passing, playmaking, and increased range. Hayward is also a good fit, but we MUST also add a starting 4 alongside him, which is why Griffin might be the better overall choice.
I agree he is a better player than Hayward. But I can't see him being healthy imo.
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
Why do you want to take a gamble on Griffin? What is the arguement? He would fit great if healthy. Not sure why take the risk when Hayward is available. He's a big upgrade over Bradley or Crowder. He is also one year younger than Griffin.
When healthy, which is a big factor I admit, Griffin is quite a bit better than Hayward.
He also plays a position where we desperately need a starter, where you could easily consider Hayward redundant with AB and Crowder. (And actually, I think both AB and Jae are the perfect type of 3 and D role players to put in between a secondary scorer in Griffin and IT, along with Al.)
Finally, Griffin is an absolute perfect fit offensively with this group, especially with his passing, playmaking, and increased range. Hayward is also a good fit, but we MUST also add a starting 4 alongside him, which is why Griffin might be the better overall choice.
I don't think Hayward is redundant. He's a better offensive player than both, gets his own shots, and has better handles and can be a PG if needed. AB was good until get got hurt (again) and Crowder has had one good game. His D has been poor, so you can't really say he's a better defender, stronger, yes, but Hayward moves side to side better.
Yes a healthy Griffin would be ideal and fill a need, butt his health is questionable. Same as AB. Hard to want to pay a guy who gets hurt through out the season.
And we have the Dancing Bear ready to go so who needs Griffin! :P
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Well, so far so good with the Western playoffs looking to go exactly how we wanted them to go. With LA losing in the first round and Utah getting swept easily in the second round, we should receive legitimate consideration from both Griffin and Hayward. The question is this: which one do we prefer if we have the choice?
Why do you want to take a gamble on Griffin? What is the arguement? He would fit great if healthy. Not sure why take the risk when Hayward is available. He's a big upgrade over Bradley or Crowder. He is also one year younger than Griffin.
When healthy, which is a big factor I admit, Griffin is quite a bit better than Hayward.
He also plays a position where we desperately need a starter, where you could easily consider Hayward redundant with AB and Crowder. (And actually, I think both AB and Jae are the perfect type of 3 and D role players to put in between a secondary scorer in Griffin and IT, along with Al.)
Finally, Griffin is an absolute perfect fit offensively with this group, especially with his passing, playmaking, and increased range. Hayward is also a good fit, but we MUST also add a starting 4 alongside him, which is why Griffin might be the better overall choice.
I don't think Hayward is redundant. He's a better offensive player than both, gets his own shots, and has better handles and can be a PG if needed. AB was good until get got hurt (again) and Crowder has had one good game. His D has been poor, so you can't really say he's a better defender, stronger, yes, but Hayward moves side to side better.
Yes a healthy Griffin would be ideal and fill a need, butt his health is questionable. Same as AB. Hard to want to pay a guy who gets hurt through out the season.
And we have the Dancing Bear ready to go so who needs Griffin! :P
I was talking purely about his position being redundant. His skill set certainly isn't, and he's exactly what we need in a secondary scorer. And I'd go as far as saying that with Jae's step back defensively this year, Hayward is just as, if not more, valuable defensively as Jae is anymore.
But the problem still remains - since we'll have to clear almost all of our depth in bigs to get Hayward, we're still left with a major hole in our starting lineup after signing him. That's why I think there's a certain appeal in signing either Griffin or Millsap over Hayward, even given their respective concerns about health and age.
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The Rockets is also blowing out the Spurs. At least the lost against Washington doesn't look too bad now.
Giving up a 26-0 run after giving up a 22-0 in the previous game, in two straight blowout losses, has no silver lining.
Looks bad no matter the context.
As for Spurs - Rox, I'm pretty sure this is going 7, and I have no idea who is going to win.
As Ryan Bernadoni stated on Twitter, the Leonard-lead, Popovich Spurs have been blown out in two games against the Rockets, similar to the Cs.
A loss is a loss. Hopefully the Cs care less about the margin than the fans do.
It's not just about the margin, it's how we got there. Nevermind the rebounding disparity because it's comical at this point, but these last two games have really highlighted 2 concerns I have about this current team:
1.) the Isaiah conundrum. There's no question he's a special offensive player but his defense can take you out of games. They are ATTACKING him defensively right now. Every player he guards goes right into posting him up and he can't hang. Particularly with Washington's starting unit, there's nowhere to hide him defensively. Wall? Lol. Beal? Nope. Otto? Nah. But he's your only offensive threat, so you have to ride with him and hope for the best. Which brings me to...
2.) No consistent offense outside of Isaiah. We have a bunch of jumpshooters who don't really bring anything to the table offensively if they're not hitting 3's. That's a problem. If IT isn't making things happen and guys aren't hitting wide open shots, we have no post presence or secondary shot creator to go to. The closest is Avery Bradley and while he's much improved, Avery cannot be your second best perimeter scorer. You can try to give it to Al in the post, but he wants to - or we're asking him to, I'm not sure - be a jumpshooter too.
I wonder how the Spurs got where they were with their blowouts?
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Who loses first GS or CLE??
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Who loses first GS or CLE??
GS
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Jazz fans doing their best to try and convince Hayward to stay with a "Gordon Hayward" chant lol
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I will feel bad for the Jazz fans if Hayward leaves. They are chanting his name in his last game of their season.
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So as mentioned, Jazz fans chanted "Hayward" at the end of the game.
And Hayward gave them the peace sign while leaving.
Could that be a sign he does leave?
What other teams could be options for him? Boston yes. Indiana? Lakers?
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So as mentioned, Jazz fans chanted "Hayward" at the end of the game.
And Hayward gave them the peace sign while leaving.
Could that be a sign he does leave?
What other teams could be options for him? Boston yes. Indiana? Lakers?
Miami
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TNT guys giving the KG and the guys heat about Ray lol
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So as mentioned, Jazz fans chanted "Hayward" at the end of the game.
And Hayward gave them the peace sign while leaving.
Could that be a sign he does leave?
What other teams could be options for him? Boston yes. Indiana? Lakers?
I doubt it means anything lol.
I would expect a lot of interest in him, he's arguably the best talent in free agency this offseason.
Raptors maybe if Lowry leaves? Lakers possibly but PG13 seems like the more likely fit there. What about Miami or Minnesota?
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Pretty good time for the Spurs to lose Parker and need an upgrade, huh? This summer Paul, Lowry, Hill, and Holiday will all be free agent point guards that are likely good fits in San Antonio.
With Lowry's comments about Lebron being unbeatable and him wanting a ring above all, I could really see him taking less money and going to the Spurs. Holiday might be a better investment for the Spurs given his age, but right now Lowery is actually a really good fit for the Spurs.
And if Lowry would leave Toronto, I could see Derozan being a major target of LA over George, since they can just try and sign him next summer anyways.
Unless Parker retires and Gasol opts out, the Spurs aren't anywhere close to having enough cap space to get Paul or Lowery.
they could trade gasol to the nets with a pick
Mills and Simmons are free agents and Dedmon has a small player option so he'll probably opt out. If they don't resign any of them and dump Gasol via trade, the Spurs would have about 29M in cap space so Paul and Lowry would still be taking significantly less than their MAX.
We're going to have similar issues creating a max slot but people are still putting us in the convo for the likes of Hayward and Griffin. We've seen crazier things happen and as we saw GS create the space to get Durant, there's a path.
And the Nets make PERFECT sense as a trade partner. They're on the hunt for assets so why not take Gasol with a pick if he opts in? It's not like they own their pick in 2018, so what do they care if he adds a few more wins. Put with Lin and Brook and add a little more entertainment value to your team.
We have better cap space than the Spurs. Also, Hayward and Griffin don't have 10 years so they are only 30%MAX guys whereas Lowry and Paul are 35%MAX guys. From a Spurs perspective, I don't think getting Lowry or Paul is enough to challenge GSW and they'd only have a 2 or 3 year window. If they can free up significant cap space, they'd be better off going after Hayward or Griffin.
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So as mentioned, Jazz fans chanted "Hayward" at the end of the game.
And Hayward gave them the peace sign while leaving.
Could that be a sign he does leave?
What other teams could be options for him? Boston yes. Indiana? Lakers?
I doubt it means anything lol.
I would expect a lot of interest in him, he's arguably the best talent in free agency this offseason.
Raptors maybe if Lowry leaves? Lakers possibly but PG13 seems like the more likely fit there. What about Miami or Minnesota?
The media and everyone else always want to read into everything as a sign but the truth is probably that players rarely, if ever, make this kind of decision while there are still games going on. I doubt Hayward has made a final decision.
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I mean the only real choices for Hayward here are Jazz or Celtics. Why on earth would he go to a worse team where he doesn't have the same relationships as the Jazz (mostly) and Cs (Stevens)?
It is still most likely he returns to Utah, but I would be very surprised if the Cs were obviously the next choice.
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I think if the Celtics choose so, they have a very good chance at signing Hayward. I mean we are already as good as the Jazz without Hayward. If he signs with us, we're not giving away an asset so our team will be better. So in that sense, I can't imagine him picking the Jazz over us. Besides we have the upside factor of Jaylen Brown's development. TBH, he's looked pretty dam good on offense in the playoffs for the limited amount he has played. Looks like a guy who can play against talented players to me.
We also have this years pick. There is a lot of upside on this team and basically every player on this team currently will be better next year. So yeah, I think we can sign Hayward. I think the focus will be on George however. It's going to be a bidding war for him.
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I think if the Celtics choose so, they have a very good chance at signing Hayward. I mean we are already as good as the Jazz without Hayward. If he signs with us, we're not giving away an asset so our team will be better. So in that sense, I can't imagine him picking the Jazz over us. Besides we have the upside factor of Jaylen Brown's development. TBH, he's looked pretty dam good on offense in the playoffs for the limited amount he has played. Looks like a guy who can play against talented players to me.
We also have this years pick. There is a lot of upside on this team and basically every player on this team currently will be better next year. So yeah, I think we can sign Hayward. I think the focus will be on George however. It's going to be a bidding war for him.
I don't think there'll be a bidding war for George. If he wants to go to the Lakers, he'll make it clear and that'll be that. I don't see any team giving up good assets for him if he's saying he'll bolt. It'll be a redux of Denver trading Carmelo to the Knicks.
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I think if the Celtics choose so, they have a very good chance at signing Hayward. I mean we are already as good as the Jazz without Hayward. If he signs with us, we're not giving away an asset so our team will be better. So in that sense, I can't imagine him picking the Jazz over us. Besides we have the upside factor of Jaylen Brown's development. TBH, he's looked pretty dam good on offense in the playoffs for the limited amount he has played. Looks like a guy who can play against talented players to me.
We also have this years pick. There is a lot of upside on this team and basically every player on this team currently will be better next year. So yeah, I think we can sign Hayward. I think the focus will be on George however. It's going to be a bidding war for him.
I don't think there'll be a bidding war for George. If he wants to go to the Lakers, he'll make it clear and that'll be that. I don't see any team giving up good assets for him if he's saying he'll bolt. It'll be a redux of Denver trading Carmelo to the Knicks.
Lowe wrote in his Toronto Article that the Lakers are willing to offer their young assets for George. Just FYI. I wouldn't be so sure in believing those Laker reports. Lowe wouldn't be reporting the Lakers interest in a trade if the Lakers were confident they could sign him.
Let's just be honest here, He is going to consider Boston in free agency. Why wouldn't he? We're in a great situation and the team has young players who have played in the playoffs. They're going to get better. Imagine Smart at 25, Brown at 23, and Rozier at 25. That's not inluding this years pick and Zizic.
Besides, wasn't Shaq the last big free agent the Lakers landed? Carmelo blew them off. Westbrook didn't even hesitate to sign with the Thunder after all the Lakers reports came out. I can go on and on. ALdrige blew them off as well. Players want playing time, and they want to win. So we can sign George imo.
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We're going to have similar issues creating a max slot but people are still putting us in the convo for the likes of Hayward and Griffin. We've seen crazier things happen and as we saw GS create the space to get Durant, there's a path.
And the Nets make PERFECT sense as a trade partner. They're on the hunt for assets so why not take Gasol with a pick if he opts in? It's not like they own their pick in 2018, so what do they care if he adds a few more wins. Put with Lin and Brook and add a little more entertainment value to your team.
We have better cap space than the Spurs. Also, Hayward and Griffin don't have 10 years so they are only 30%MAX guys whereas Lowry and Paul are 35%MAX guys. From a Spurs perspective, I don't think getting Lowry or Paul is enough to challenge GSW and they'd only have a 2 or 3 year window. If they can free up significant cap space, they'd be better off going after Hayward or Griffin.
But we don't have clear cut max cap space, we'd have to renounce rights to guys and possibly trade someone to open it up. My point is, if we get a player to commit, we can make it happen. Spurs will also have to finagle, but there's a path to do it. If they trade Gasol to a team with cap space (i.e. the Nets) by attaching a pick, renounce rights to Mills and Dedmond, use the stretch on provision on Parker, they'd get pretty darn close.
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I think if the Celtics choose so, they have a very good chance at signing Hayward. I mean we are already as good as the Jazz without Hayward. If he signs with us, we're not giving away an asset so our team will be better. So in that sense, I can't imagine him picking the Jazz over us. Besides we have the upside factor of Jaylen Brown's development. TBH, he's looked pretty dam good on offense in the playoffs for the limited amount he has played. Looks like a guy who can play against talented players to me.
We also have this years pick. There is a lot of upside on this team and basically every player on this team currently will be better next year. So yeah, I think we can sign Hayward. I think the focus will be on George however. It's going to be a bidding war for him.
I don't think there'll be a bidding war for George. If he wants to go to the Lakers, he'll make it clear and that'll be that. I don't see any team giving up good assets for him if he's saying he'll bolt. It'll be a redux of Denver trading Carmelo to the Knicks.
Lowe wrote in his Toronto Article that the Lakers are willing to offer their young assets for George. Just FYI. I wouldn't be so sure in believing those Laker reports. Lowe wouldn't be reporting the Lakers interest in a trade if the Lakers were confident they could sign him.
Let's just be honest here, He is going to consider Boston in free agency. Why wouldn't he? We're in a great situation and the team has young players who have played in the playoffs. They're going to get better. Imagine Smart at 25, Brown at 23, and Rozier at 25. That's not inluding this years pick and Zizic.
Besides, wasn't Shaq the last big free agent the Lakers landed? Carmelo blew them off. Westbrook didn't even hesitate to sign with the Thunder after all the Lakers reports came out. I can go on and on. ALdrige blew them off as well. Players want playing time, and they want to win. So we can sign George imo.
It's presumptuous to assume Paul is going to consider Boston. If young talent is all that matters, why not consider Minnesota or Denver? And it was leaked at the trade deadline that Denver made a "monster" trade offer for him, but Paul made it known to them he had no interest in reupping there if he was traded. He might have a whole different list of priorities in terms of where he wants to play.
Sources leaking that he was "hell-bent" on the Lakers right around the deadline wasn't a coincidence. That's his people trying to scare off potential suitors. LA dangling young assets for him might be more about their impatience to add a star talent than them not believing in their chances. AND Paul would also benefit from being traded to LA as opposed to just signing in FA. They'd get his bird rights and can give him a fifth year.
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I think if the Celtics choose so, they have a very good chance at signing Hayward. I mean we are already as good as the Jazz without Hayward. If he signs with us, we're not giving away an asset so our team will be better. So in that sense, I can't imagine him picking the Jazz over us. Besides we have the upside factor of Jaylen Brown's development. TBH, he's looked pretty dam good on offense in the playoffs for the limited amount he has played. Looks like a guy who can play against talented players to me.
We also have this years pick. There is a lot of upside on this team and basically every player on this team currently will be better next year. So yeah, I think we can sign Hayward. I think the focus will be on George however. It's going to be a bidding war for him.
I don't think there'll be a bidding war for George. If he wants to go to the Lakers, he'll make it clear and that'll be that. I don't see any team giving up good assets for him if he's saying he'll bolt. It'll be a redux of Denver trading Carmelo to the Knicks.
Lowe wrote in his Toronto Article that the Lakers are willing to offer their young assets for George. Just FYI. I wouldn't be so sure in believing those Laker reports. Lowe wouldn't be reporting the Lakers interest in a trade if the Lakers were confident they could sign him.
Let's just be honest here, He is going to consider Boston in free agency. Why wouldn't he? We're in a great situation and the team has young players who have played in the playoffs. They're going to get better. Imagine Smart at 25, Brown at 23, and Rozier at 25. That's not inluding this years pick and Zizic.
Besides, wasn't Shaq the last big free agent the Lakers landed? Carmelo blew them off. Westbrook didn't even hesitate to sign with the Thunder after all the Lakers reports came out. I can go on and on. ALdrige blew them off as well. Players want playing time, and they want to win. So we can sign George imo.
It's presumptuous to assume Paul is going to consider Boston. If young talent is all that matters, why not consider Minnesota or Denver? And it was leaked at the trade deadline that Denver made a "monster" trade offer for him, but Paul made it known to them he had no interest in reupping there if he was traded. He might have a whole different list of priorities in terms of where he wants to play.
Sources leaking that he was "hell-bent" on the Lakers right around the deadline wasn't a coincidence. That's his people trying to scare off potential suitors. LA dangling young assets for him might be more about their impatience to add a star talent than them not believing in their chances. AND Paul would also benefit from being traded to LA as opposed to just signing in FA. They'd get his bird rights and can give him a fifth year.
Because those teams don't make the playoffs? They didn't win 50 games? I mean just look at our team objectively. We're going to improve every year. Bradley and Crowder even have room for growth. Horford is the only one who will decline tbh. And by the way, there is a reason we had a meeting with Durant and signed Horford last offseason. Players will want to play here.
We'll see what happens. I still have my doubts about George. If you're only argument is that he wants to go to the Lakers because he grew up there, then that really isn't an argument. Also, he was a Clippers fan growing up. Just FYI.
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Because those teams don't make the playoffs? They didn't win 50 games? I mean just look at our team objectively. We're going to improve every year. Bradley and Crowder even have room for growth. Horford is the only one who will decline tbh. And by the way, there is a reason we had a meeting with Durant and signed Horford last offseason. Players will want to play here.
We'll see what happens. I still have my doubts about George. If you're only argument is that he wants to go to the Lakers because he grew up there, then that really isn't an argument. Also, he was a Clippers fan growing up. Just FYI.
If you could point out where I made this argument, I'd really appreciate it.
My argument was that I don't think all those leaks to Woj and Marc Stein happened around the trade deadline accidentally. Those guys have direct contact with player agents. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
And I am looking at our team objectively, we're good but we don't have any "young" guy on our roster with as much potential as a Karl Anthony Town or even Andrew Wiggins. Crowder's actually regressed. Avery will be an FA that offseason and will be looking to cash in. IT will also be an FA and looking at a max deal. Marcus Smart will be a restricted FA. Are we retaining those guys or letting them walk? If we keep them, we may not even have cap to go after Paul in free agency. If we don't keep them, we're pitching Paul with what?
Denver and Minnesota where two random teams I mentioned, but you could also add in the Wizards to that list. Depending on what Washington does this offseason, they could have max room in 2018. I think pairing up with John Wall and Bradley Beal would be an infinitely better situation. But again, if the leaks where true and he wants LA, then that's where he goes.
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Because those teams don't make the playoffs? They didn't win 50 games? I mean just look at our team objectively. We're going to improve every year. Bradley and Crowder even have room for growth. Horford is the only one who will decline tbh. And by the way, there is a reason we had a meeting with Durant and signed Horford last offseason. Players will want to play here.
We'll see what happens. I still have my doubts about George. If you're only argument is that he wants to go to the Lakers because he grew up there, then that really isn't an argument. Also, he was a Clippers fan growing up. Just FYI.
If you could point out where I made this argument, I'd really appreciate it.
My argument was that I don't think all those leaks to Woj and Marc Stein happened around the trade deadline accidentally. Those guys have direct contact with player agents. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
And I am looking at our team objectively, we're good but we don't have any "young" guy on our roster with as much potential as a Karl Anthony Town or even Andrew Wiggins. Crowder's actually regressed. Avery will be an FA that offseason and will be looking to cash in. IT will also be an FA and looking at a max deal. Marcus Smart will be a restricted FA. Are we retaining those guys or letting them walk? If we keep them, we may not even have cap to go after Paul in free agency. If we don't keep them, we're pitching Paul with what?
Denver and Minnesota where two random teams I mentioned, but you could also add in the Wizards to that list. Depending on what Washington does this offseason, they could have max room in 2018. I think pairing up with John Wall and Bradley Beal would be an infinitely better situation. But again, if the leaks where true and he wants LA, then that's where he goes.
Yes those guys are saying that he wants to go to LA because he grew up there...And I don't believe it because those guys have linked Westbrook, Aldridge, Melo, Lebron, etc to the Lakers and nothing happened.
Yeah Washington could work if the can create the cap space. But you mentioned Denver and Minn, and I explained why he wouldn't be interested.
It seems like you are saying the Celtics as a team won't get better. If you don't believe in Brown as a player, which I personally do, then that is the crux of our disagreement. I think and, I believe the league views the Celtics future as bright as numerous articles have pointed out. Lowe, O'Connor, Stein, Woj, Mannix, etc. If you don't agree, then that's your perspective and I can't change your projection on the team.
Me on the other hand, I'm confident we'll be really good with or without George.
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Because those teams don't make the playoffs? They didn't win 50 games? I mean just look at our team objectively. We're going to improve every year. Bradley and Crowder even have room for growth. Horford is the only one who will decline tbh. And by the way, there is a reason we had a meeting with Durant and signed Horford last offseason. Players will want to play here.
We'll see what happens. I still have my doubts about George. If you're only argument is that he wants to go to the Lakers because he grew up there, then that really isn't an argument. Also, he was a Clippers fan growing up. Just FYI.
If you could point out where I made this argument, I'd really appreciate it.
My argument was that I don't think all those leaks to Woj and Marc Stein happened around the trade deadline accidentally. Those guys have direct contact with player agents. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
And I am looking at our team objectively, we're good but we don't have any "young" guy on our roster with as much potential as a Karl Anthony Town or even Andrew Wiggins. Crowder's actually regressed. Avery will be an FA that offseason and will be looking to cash in. IT will also be an FA and looking at a max deal. Marcus Smart will be a restricted FA. Are we retaining those guys or letting them walk? If we keep them, we may not even have cap to go after Paul in free agency. If we don't keep them, we're pitching Paul with what?
Denver and Minnesota where two random teams I mentioned, but you could also add in the Wizards to that list. Depending on what Washington does this offseason, they could have max room in 2018. I think pairing up with John Wall and Bradley Beal would be an infinitely better situation. But again, if the leaks where true and he wants LA, then that's where he goes.
Yes those guys are saying that he wants to go to LA because he grew up there...And I don't believe it because those guys have linked Westbrook, Aldridge, Melo, Lebron, etc to the Lakers and nothing happened.
Yeah Washington could work if the can create the cap space. But you mentioned Denver and Minn, and I explained why he wouldn't be interested.
It seems like you are saying the Celtics as a team won't get better. If you don't believe in Brown as a player, which I personally do, then that is the crux of our disagreement. I think and, I believe the league views the Celtics future as bright as numerous articles have pointed out. Lowe, O'Connor, Stein, Woj, Mannix, etc. If you don't agree, then that's your perspective and I can't change your projection on the team.
Me on the other hand, I'm confident we'll be really good with or without George.
I think the crux of our disagreement is that you're inferring things I never said.
While I don't think we have anyone coming up that is on the caliber of Karl Anthony Towns or Andrew Wiggins, that doesn't mean I don't "believe" in Jaylen. Those two thoughts aren't mutually exclusive.
3 of our top 5 guys who helped us get to 50 wins - Isaiah, Avery, and Marcus - are going to be FA's in 2018 along with George. You can't sign him and resign all of them. Realistically, I don't think you can sign 2 of that group for market value and still have a crack at George at max money. IT is going to want max money. Avery is going to be in the $18m-$20m range. If you're taking some of those guys out of the mix, you're lessening what you're selling George in FA. If you're pitch is an aging Horford, Jaylen, and picks, are you that much above the rest of the crop that you can absolutely say you're getting a meeting with George? If one of the above 3 guys is in the mix, is that enough or does that kill your cap space anyway?
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James Harden one assist shy from a triple-double.
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So close, Patty. So close.
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So what happened to Kawii? He did not foul out and does not appear to be hurt.
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3 minutes gone by in OT and still 101-101. No one has scored...
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helluva game tonight
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Green!
I've always liked Danny Green. Lunch pail-type 3 and D wing that just goes out and does his job.
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must be nice to have role players that can step up in the playoffs
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So what happened to Kawii? He did not foul out and does not appear to be hurt.
I think they said Left ankle issue
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Rockets vs spurs is close again
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Not sure that Houston could've played that OT any worse. Just poor decision after poor decision.
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Ginobili!!
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Houston’s offense in crunch time is garbage. They spend like 15 or 20 seconds doing literally nothing, and then it’s Harden either turning it over and complaining about a foul and not getting back on d, or taking a dumb contested 3. I can’t believe they can’t just function like do throughout the game. Pick and roll with Harden, and if the defense collapses, kick it out for 3. They weren’t even getting to the pick part of that in overtime.
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Also D’Antoni runs no good out of bounds or timeout plays. They’re just lucky to get the ball in bounds. I’d love to see what Brad could do with a team like Houston’s roster.
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How the hell does Shaq have a doctorate? The dude is dumb as hell and is never prepared with the requisite information for the show.
KO hurt Love's shoulder in that incident a couple of years back, but Shaq was arguing that he put him in an armbar, which is an elbow hyperextension hold. He's arguing that KO is dirty, but he doesn't even know what injury Love had...
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How the hell does Shaq have a doctorate? The dude is dumb as hell and is never prepared with the requisite information for the show.
KO hurt Love's shoulder in that incident a couple of years back, but Shaq was arguing that he put him in an armbar, which is an elbow hyperextension hold. He's arguing that KO is dirty, but he doesn't even know what injury Love had...
I think olynyk reminds the old guys of Laimbeer...which is Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing ridiculous because they are almost nothing alike except for the fact that they are 7 footers that can shoot 3s
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Spurs vs. Warriors. Thoughts on that series?
My guess, Warriors in 5.
Spurs will play them close some games but Warriors just have too much firepower.
ALSO, losing Parker could hurt SAS a lot, even though they are blowing out HOU right now w/o Leonard and Parker.
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Spurs vs. Warriors. Thoughts on that series?
My guess, Warriors in 5.
Spurs will play them close some games but Warriors just have too much firepower.
ALSO, losing Parker could hurt SAS a lot, even though they are blowing out HOU right now w/o Leonard and Parker.
Spurs might win a game, I'd be really surprised if they got 2. I've said from the beginning of the playoffs, that I don't think any team even gives Golden State a series (including the Cavs). I just don't see how they lose as long as they are healthy.
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Looks like the Rockets are having one of those "Boston in Washington no-show" nights.
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Spurs now up 28.
Man this team is doing it without Leonard and Parker.
Pop must have ripped into them recently :laugh:
He wasn't too happy with their play recently, even despite a Game 5 win. They answered.
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Looks like the Rockets are having one of those "Boston in Washington no-show" nights.
Rockets are much worse. They were up against Kawhi-less Spurs, in homecourt at that.
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LOL at the Rockets fans cheering Harden as he checks out. If that was Boston with our best player laying an egg in a blowout elimination loss, our fans would boo his ass off the floor and into exile.
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Spurs now up 28 40.
Man this team is doing it without Leonard and Parker.
Pop must have ripped into them recently :laugh:
He wasn't too happy with their play recently, even despite a Game 5 win. They answered.
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Spurs r deadly
I predict they will beat gsw in 7
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Horrible garbage by the rockets. They are who we thought they are!
Bad defense, no depth.
Also up 25-9 in free throws, and yet down 40, incredible!
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Total class by the Spurs. No showboating, no dancing, cheering, laughing on the sidelines, or anything. Just pure business all the way through and then classy handshakes and well wishes to the opponent. Other teams including the Celtics could learn from that.
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Total class by the Spurs. No showboating, no dancing, cheering, laughing on the sidelines, or anything. Just pure business all the way through and then classy handshakes and well wishes to the opponent. Other teams including the Celtics could learn from that.
Celtics dont do that
Tell this to dancing wall
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If the MVP award wasn't already decided and if it was based on the whole season, this game alone would have ended Harden's expectations to win it.
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I did have the Spurs in 7 against the Warriors but with Tony Parker out...no one will stop Steph Curry.
This is where their season ends. Against a superteam with that thug Draymond Green. Also Pau Gasol's fourth Western Conference Finals appearance.
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Jonathan Simmons would look good in Green.
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So is there going to be an investigation about Harden throwing the game?
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DiAntoni taking the high road and politicking to keep his COY hope alive.
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Fair dues to San Antonio. I doubted them all year and still do to be honest. Very surprised they made it this far (Conference Finals). GSW should make short work of them. Still though, a great season for them to make it this far without Tim Duncan.
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I did have the Spurs in 7 against the Warriors but with Tony Parker out...no one will stop Steph Curry.
This is where their season ends. Against a superteam with that thug Draymond Green. Also Pau Gasol's fourth Western Conference Finals appearance.
Doesn't the absence of Parker make their defense against Curry better?
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Man I would love to see a Celtics Spurs final.
Gotta get by Wash first...
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Man I would love to see a Celtics Spurs final.
Gotta get by Wash first...
AND CLEVELAND, and Spurs have to get by GSW. Couple of minor details...
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Man I would love to see a Celtics Spurs final.
Gotta get by Wash first...
AND CLEVELAND, and Spurs have to get by GSW. Couple of minor details...
Nitpicker. ;D
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So is there going to be an investigation about Harden throwing the game?
If Stephen A. has his way, there will be.
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Spurs and Celtics only teams to keep the warriors below 100 during season
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Spurs gonna whoop the Warriors' ass. Expect the Spurs to win in 6 or 7.
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Rooting hard for the Spurs but I predict the Warriors in 6. Ho hum
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Interested to see if Dewayne Dedmon is out of the doghouse for this series. If he barely plays, maybe he'll be cheap this summer and a realistic target for the C's...
Expecting the Warriors to win in 5, hope I'm wrong though.
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Warriors in 5 :police:
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My guess, Warriors in 6.
Call me crazy, but I think Spurs surprise everyone and take 2 in this series.
I think GSW wins Game 1 though.
Losing Parker does hurt SAS.
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LOL Aldridge looks massive out there.
Spurs need to attack inside and grab the rebounds. Warriors too small.
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WHAT A START. 37-19 Spurs. :o
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Vegas has warriors winning by a long shot. One can possibly make a lot of money is spurs win this series ( which I think is possible )
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Go Spurs!
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GSW (oops lol) just got a gift... it happens but never for us.
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The NBA is an absolute joke if Zaza doesn't get suspended for stepping under Kawhi like that, knew exactly what he was doing.
Watch the Warriors come back and win this now...smh
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Hate Zaza. Only reason why i rather have the Cavs win than the Warriors ::)
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LOL NBA..... Why is it that the team making a run NEVER seems to commit a foul?
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Hate Zaza. Only reason why i rather have the Cavs win than the Warriors ::)
I have a couple other reasons: KD picking the Super team over us. Draymond Green calling KO a dirty player. But I want San Antonio to beat them and if the Cavs are in the finals I would go with San Antonio over the Cavs but obviously I go with Celts to win it all.
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GINOBILI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I just don't get how anyone can root for the warriors. It's super team with cowardly kd there
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Can't root for the Cavs either.
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Leonard out for the game. That sucks.
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Leonard out for the game. That sucks.
Why?... Sorry im at work and can't watch.
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Leonard out for the game. That sucks.
Why?... Sorry im at work and can't watch.
Sprained ankle again.
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Spurs should get their money back from Aldridge.
There is so much fouling in the nba that does not get called. All the stars foul almost all the time when they drive, and it is never called. LeBron does it Durant just did it on that drive. It is impossible to guard these players when they are allowed to whack you as they drive to the basket.
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The announcers talk about good defense, when all they are doing is fouling the Spurs on every play.
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lol the lopsided calls in major favor of the Warriors is probably what to expect if we get to the ECF to play Cleveland ::)
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lol the lopsided calls in major favor of the Warriors is probably what to expect if we get to the ECF to play Cleveland ::)
Makes me wonder why I bother with this league.
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I like it when San Antonio gets Aldridge the ball on the move. Get him closer to the basket with the defender not set against him. When they go straight into the post up, Aldridge is getting pushed further from the basket and taking harder shots.
Spurs guards gotta do a better job of getting Aldridge the ball in better spots.
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SPURS are getting worked by the referees, NBA is a joke.
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The kind of crowd support GSW is getting today is what Cs need tomorrow. I hope the Garden crowd does not disappoint.
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I can't stand this new era where you consistently see guys pass up layups for threes.
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Lol more late calls for GS.
But that giving up 3 offensive boards on one possession crap just killed the Spurs. You can't give two great shooters in Durant and Curry three attempts to hit a three in one possession.
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Honestly, screw the NBA. Giving the Warriors free throws on every shot in the paint, what a freaking joke.
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Klay Thompson just whacked his defendant..... no foul.
There is something I must be missing.
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GS outworked SA in the 2nd half. They played some good defense and hustled on the boards.
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Did patty mills not realize he was supposed to miss it and pass to himself by bricking it hard off the rin
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GS outworked SA in the 2nd half. They played some good defense and hustled on the boards.
code for they began fouling, and of course refs swallowed whistle.
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The kind of crowd ref support GSW is getting today is what Cs need tomorrow. I hope the Garden crowd does not disappoint.
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The kind of crowd ref support GSW is getting today is what Cs need tomorrow. I hope the Garden crowd does not disappoint.
that too, that too.
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The kind of crowd ref support GSW is getting today is what Cs need tomorrow. I hope the Garden crowd does not disappoint.
that too, that too.
Yeah...San Antonio got robbed...hope they bounce back and steal game 2
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Did people think Leonard ankle injury was dirty?
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The kind of crowd ref support GSW is getting today is what Cs need tomorrow. I hope the Garden crowd does not disappoint.
that too, that too.
Livingston blocking like he plays in the NFL.
https://streamable.com/8ar92
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GS outworked SA in the 2nd half. They played some good defense and hustled on the boards.
code for the began fouling, and of course refs swallowed whistle.
exactly
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Did people think Leonard ankle injury was dirty?
I did. I was kind of surprised it never came up. Especially because it was Zaza
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Did people think Leonard ankle injury was dirty?
never would have thought that, but it is starting to seem that this is a dirty tactic used in the NBA to injure players now.
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Did people think Leonard ankle injury was dirty?
Yes
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Did people think Leonard ankle injury was dirty?
yes
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I know it's probably absurd to criticize him after 28 points and 8 rebounds...
But Aldridge was really disappointing in the final 5 minutes. Besides a few shots he made late in the game to get SAS up 104-103, he was missing too many other shots and didn't rebound well late which allowed GSW to get some offensive rebounds.
Too many bad fadeaway jumpers that the Warriors were content in letting him have. Reminded me of Crowder and his ill-advised, contested 3s :o
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Aldridge was probably burned out at the end. Who wouldn't be playing an nba2k team
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How much more reason is there to believe that Zaza's play was dirty, but Horford's wasnt?
I mean Zaza's got a worse reputation and it was directly after Leonard re-injured it. Plus Leonard was killing the Warriors.
However, I feel like its unfair for me to call Zaza's play dirty(and when I saw it I jumped off my couch in anger) and not call Horford's the same.
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what happened to Gasol?
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what happened to Gasol?
Aged 5yrs in a week's span...can't beat father time I guess unless your name is Lebron.
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I really hate this memeshooting team
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Steph Curry's insane 3rd quarter was something out of this world.
Leonard's injury hurt SAS ultimately, but Curry's huge 3rd was the ultimate spark to that Warriors comeback. Without it, SAS probably hangs on late.
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no it was not....
refs swallowing the whistle was insane.
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no it was not....
refs swallowing the whistle was insane.
I'm not denying that the refs handed GSW the game too.
But it's all for naught without Curry's insane run and shooting.
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How much more reason is there to believe that Zaza's play was dirty, but Horford's wasnt?
I mean Zaza's got a worse reputation and it was directly after Leonard re-injured it. Plus Leonard was killing the Warriors.
However, I feel like its unfair for me to call Zaza's play dirty(and when I saw it I jumped off my couch in anger) and not call Horford's the same.
Seeing Zaza just reminds me of how he and KG used to get into it lol
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Obviously this is largely influenced by the injury to Leonard, but this really stinks. Live in the bay area and these games are usually fun to watch and good events. Most people don't even seem to care there is a game today at the moment. I feel like i have gotten cheated out of the playoffs between this and the mediocre play in other series. Hopefully we at least have a good ECF that goes 6 or more. Sweep in ECF would cement this as the least competitive and compelling playoffs every (pre-finals anyways)
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Leonard OUT for Game 4.
Looks like it will be a sweep for GSW.
Kind of hope Spurs find a way to prevail, because I think Kawhi would be ready for Game 5.
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Leonard OUT for Game 4.
Looks like it will be a sweep for GSW.
Kind of hope Spurs find a way to prevail, because I think Kawhi would be ready for Game 5.
This series has been an epic letdown since that 3rd quarter injury. I feel like we were robbed of potentially a great series. Leonard is such a difference maker on everything they do.
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Leonard OUT for Game 4.
Looks like it will be a sweep for GSW.
Kind of hope Spurs find a way to prevail, because I think Kawhi would be ready for Game 5.
This series has been an epic letdown since that 3rd quarter injury. I feel like we were robbed of potentially a great series. Leonard is such a difference maker on everything they do.
There is NO WAY Spurs lose Game 1 if he doesn't get hurt.
Even with KD and Curry shooting lights out, Leonard would have found ways to score, and up to that point he already had 28 (looked like he could score 40+).
But yeah, sad injury.
Funny part is seeing Warriors fans trying to act like Leonard's injury was just part of the game and that they would have swept the Spurs anyways.. ::)
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
I hope so. ;D
Update: They started off REAL COLD from the field, but so did the C's yesterday! 8)
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
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spurs watched the Celtics game
here they come.
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
Yeah I saw it. PURE GOLD.
Unfortunately I don't know how to add it here either... :(
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
Yeah I saw it. PURE GOLD.
Unfortunately I don't know how to add it here either... :(
There you go
(https://media.giphy.com/media/M46dIStn5RajS/giphy.gif)
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
Yeah I saw it. PURE GOLD.
Unfortunately I don't know how to add it here either... :(
There you go
(https://media.giphy.com/media/M46dIStn5RajS/giphy.gif)
TP!
Now I just hope Lebron doesn't do that to us tomorrow :P
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LaMarcus Aldridge is just atrocious out there. Garbage.
When Leonard went out, so did Aldridge. Hence, Spurs about to get swept it seems.
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
Yeah I saw it. PURE GOLD.
Unfortunately I don't know how to add it here either... :(
There you go
(https://media.giphy.com/media/M46dIStn5RajS/giphy.gif)
TP
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
Yeah I saw it. PURE GOLD.
Unfortunately I don't know how to add it here either... :(
There you go
(https://media.giphy.com/media/M46dIStn5RajS/giphy.gif)
TP!
Now I just hope Lebron doesn't do that to us tomorrow :P
yeah, didn't appreciate the flip version of that being played by TNT after that disaster of game 2
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Looks like it's a sweep.
Spurs down 20 with a quarter to go. Warriors just too good and Spurs too hurt.
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Ginobili's final baskets of his career perhaps.
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Spurs have better defense than CAVS and GSW already have put up to 122.
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Scene in SA sure makes it look like this is the last of Manu. If it is, what a career.
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Cool moment for Ginobili. Such a unique player. One of my favorites.
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Cool moment for Ginobili. Such a unique player. One of my favorites.
The whole Spurs dynasty- they played the right way and were fun to watch! They need to reload around Kawhi Leonard. Aldridge was a huge disappointment for them!
Goodbye GINOBILI!!!!!
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Aaaaand the Golden State Warriors advances to the NBA Finals to face the winner of Cleveland Cavaliers vs Boston Celtics!
....and Kevin Durant's second NBA Finals appearance. ::) ::) ::)
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Looks like we're facing the warriors next. Interesting. Smart and Bradley should be able to lock up Curry and Thompson more often now without thomas on defense. We stack up very well against warriors at least on paper
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Aaaaand the Golden State Warriors advances to the NBA Finals to face the winner of Cleveland Cavaliers vs Boston Celtics!
....and Kevin Durant's second NBA Finals appearance. ::) ::) ::)
Durant is going to look so silly, for not choosing Boston, when The Celtics beat him in the finals!
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Looks like we're facing the warriors next. Interesting. Smart and Bradley should be able to lock up Curry and Thompson more often now without thomas on defense. We stack up very well against warriors at least on paper
We need to finish up the CAVS so we can get some rest before the finals!
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Spurs to channel their inter Celtics energy to win this game
OR they are channeling their inner Celtics en route to a 44 pt loss.
They look so lost on offense.
Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Spurs.
But it didn't look good for us down 21 last night either
did you see the little funny antimated thing of Lucky the Leprechaun spanking Lebron ? its the funniest thing ever , i don't know how to copy it ....im computer chanllenged , but it belongs on the Celtic blog.
Yeah I saw it. PURE GOLD.
Unfortunately I don't know how to add it here either... :(
There you go
(https://media.giphy.com/media/M46dIStn5RajS/giphy.gif)
TP!
Now I just hope Lebron doesn't do that to us tomorrow :P
yeah, didn't appreciate the flip version of that being played by TNT after that disaster of game 2
It occurs to me that in both versions of his gif, it's Lebron James (single person) and Lucky (representative of the entire team). Individual versus team, even though the Cavs have 2 other all stars on their roster.
Just interesting.