Listen im not suggesting that Maggette is my cure all end all. Infact far from it. Im saying that he mittigates IP's cure all end all. That is a statistical, historic fact.
That is a load of baloney. Corey Maggette's usage rate over the past 5 games he's played against LeBron (all Cavs wins) is 26.62. Only LeBron, Carmelo, and Durant had higher usage rates than that at the SF position.
If you want to try to sell your Maggette story, you're going to have to live with him taking a lot of shots away from your other players. Maggette can only create for himself, he's not a quality passer. Numbers back that up, he's got roughly the same assist ratio as Wilson Chandler or Chase Budinger, and his assist to turnover ratio is worse than guys like Sasha Pavlovic or Trenton Hassell.
Corey Maggette can score on LeBron James, but if you want him to 'mitigate' LeBron's scoring, you're going to need to give him a ton of touches (in 5 out of the last 7 games he played against LeBron, Maggette was either leading his team in Usage Rate or he was second), at the expense of guys like Dirk or Kidd or Hamilton, and on top of that you're going to have to live with his crappy shooting.
From the 2006-2007 season on, Corey Maggette has shot 43.0% from the field against LeBron.
If you totaled up all the points in games between the two guys since 2006/07, and divided it by all the minutes played, you would get each players' points per minute. If you multiplied that by 36, you would see approximately what each player would do, with the same usage, same minutes.
LeBron: 27 points, 49.5% Shooting
Maggette: 21 points, 43% Shooting
Relying on Maggette for the 20+ points you're insinuating is ridiculous.
what i dont see is where IP gets his offense from other than Lebron. There is nobody on IP's team that can prevent Dirk from going for 40. Tony Allen can limit Rip. But at the same time that takes another guy that can chip in offensively off the court for IP.
Well, you brought up Dirk and Ilyasova's H2H numbers, so you believe in them as valid. You did all that legwork.
So I did some more legwork. In the two games played against Dallas this season (as opposed to the other 2 games in 2007 when Ilyasova was 21 years old and averaged 15 mins per game, mostly at SF), the results were a bit more competitive than you're letting on.
Ilyasova played an average of 26 minutes per game between the two contests. In the two contests he shot 59% from the field (to Dirk's 46%), and when you worked out the per minute statistics, the only thing Dirk did better was shoot more shots.
Now, I'm not saying Dirk Nowitzki is not capable of scoring 40 points on Ilyasova. What I am saying it that he'll need to play 52.2 minutes to do it, if he played like he did against Ilyasova this season.
(Against Dirk, Ilyasova scored 21.2 pp36 minutes, which was actually 5 points better than his usual 15.9 over the same time)
And finally lets take a look at playoff experience.
Gortat, Dirk, Rip, Kidd, Barnes, Turiaf, have all played in the Conference finals and beyond.
LeBron and Tony Allen have both been to the finals.
Amundson has also been to the conference finals.
4 of my starting 5 played pivotal roles on playoff teams last season. Jennings and James were both tasked with being the #1 scoring option on their respective teams, Noah and Ilyasova were both tasked with being active rebounders and defenders. I know my team is young, and doesn't have the experience (or crappy 3pt shooting %) of say a Richard Hamilton, or the experience (or bad knees and ever-decreasing game) of Jason Kidd, but all my guys have experience in high pressure games.
Except for Gani Lawal. But he's playing 2 minutes, at most.
I mean CJ Miles, my backup SG put up numbers even with Brandon Jennings last year in the playoffs.
And this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen yet.
Why are you comparing a 2/3 tweener with my point guard?
Also, how is 14.5 points, 2.5 rebounds and 2.8 assists (Miles' numbers) equal to 18.7, 3 rebounds and 3.8 assists? (Jennings' numbers)
The only thing comparable was their minutes.
Nobody is saying Milwaukee has a bad team. They've got a good team, one that made it here.
But we've all been hearing this same "You've just got LeBron" bull since I drafted the guy. Fact is, I've got the far better defensive team. That should slow down the pace of the Milwaukee attack, and force Dirk (don't believe the Maggette garbage, that's a red herring) to do a lot of the heavy lifting. Jason Kidd suffocates in the half-court offense, and his playmaking abilities in transition will be somewhat limited.
Meanwhile, LeBron James and Brandon Jennings will be able to get literally anywhere on the court they want against Kidd and Maggette, and since both players at at worst very able passers, they will have the choice of taking it to the hoop (Jennings scored 18.5 points per game last season against Kidd) or making the pass to one of the shooters (Ilyasova, Miller, Jennings) or the pick and roll man (Noah, Ilyasova).
Milwaukee's soft front line of Gortat and Nowitzki can't even begin to slow down Chicago's offense, not when it is initiated by James or Jennings.
Chicago is also the better rebounding team, behind Joakim Noah (top 3 rebounding center last season, among those who played in 40 games or more), Ersan Ilyasova (top 25 rebounding PF's), LeBron James (only Durant and Gerald Wallace had more RPG than James at the SF), and Mike Miller (tops among SG's with a 10.1 rebound rate).
Jason Kidd I can't knock for his rebounding, he's still the best rebounding pg out there, despite being 52 years old. Even Kidd though only managed to out rebound Jennings 7.0 RPG to 5.0 RPG in head to head play last season.
Brandon Jennings does manage a healthy 6.0 rebound rate, good for 20th best among PG's (for comparison, Rondo has a 7.5 rebound rate).
Better rebound, better defense, better half-court offense. Chicago wins.
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