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Title: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Monkhouse on January 13, 2018, 11:16:06 AM
Imagine you're a Cavs fan, and yes you finally won the championship rings. All is well. But ultimately, you have to be miffed because LBJ holds all the cards at this point. With his NTC and his player option, LBJ can once again leave the same franchise that was his hometown and his birthplace, but he doesn't owe them absolutely nothing.

It's no wonder with all the discombogulation and uncertainty, why someone like Kyrie would want to leave.

Is it so hard to just come out as a player and make his decision? I mean at this point there's only four players that LeBron wants to ideally play with. He's playing with one of them, and the other two, (or three if you consider Paul George one of them,) are scattered in the West.

LBJ says he wants to surpass MJ, but ideally he would need a team that can beat the GSW. Which is it? Teaming up with Chris Paul, Wade, and Melo still wouldn't be good enough to beat GSW. So what do you think his next move would be, and why the heck doesn't he just come out and say his intentions? Would it hinder his gameplay, make him lose endorsements? If he does the unthinkable, and leave Cleveland for the 2nd time, I seriously think his legacy would be tarnished and ridiculed and everyone would say he would never be better than MJ, because MJ wouldn't ever do what he did. Thoughts?
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Phantom255x on January 13, 2018, 11:35:46 AM
If he goes to the Lakers, then frankly I think his legacy takes a hit, even if he wins a title there. He's also being put into the mix of Jordan vs. Lebron AND Kobe vs. Lebron, and if Lebron goes to LAL... then...

But if he goes to Houston to simply create a super-team, that would take a hit on his legacy as well. Ultimately, leaving the Cavaliers a 2nd time won't bode well for the King, even if he goes on to win another 1-2 rings elsewhere.

I think it's likely if he does leave, he's going either Sixers or Lakers, BUT I think even Lebron knows that going to LAL will not get him even a Finals appearance in a LOADED West with the way that team is constructed at the moment, and he'd need a 2nd max player to join him (like a Cousins). He could join the Sixers but him and Simmons would kind of look redundant honestly.

My Prediction: He surprises us all and STAYS in Cleveland.

Not his best option but if he really wants to try and surpass Jordan and keep his legacy/reputation, then he stays in CLE. Joining another elite team to become a superteam or going to a place like the Lakers (where Kobe is worshipped) kind of defeats that entire purpose.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Monkhouse on January 13, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
If he goes to the Lakers, then frankly I think his legacy takes a hit, even if he wins a title there. He's also being put into the mix of Jordan vs. Lebron AND Kobe vs. Lebron, and if Lebron goes to LAL... then...

But if he goes to Houston to simply create a super-team, that would take a hit on his legacy as well. Ultimately, leaving the Cavaliers a 2nd time won't bode well for the King, even if he goes on to win another 1-2 rings elsewhere.

I think it's likely if he does leave, he's going either Sixers or Lakers, BUT I think even Lebron knows that going to LAL will not get him even a Finals appearance in a LOADED West with the way that team is constructed at the moment, and he'd need a 2nd max player to join him (like a Cousins). He could join the Sixers but him and Simmons would kind of look redundant honestly.

My Prediction: He surprises us all and STAYS in Cleveland.

Not his best option but if he really wants to try and surpass Jordan and keep his legacy/reputation, then he stays in CLE. Joining another elite team to become a superteam or going to a place like the Lakers (where Kobe is worshipped) kind of defeats that entire purpose.

TP to your response.

I can see and agree with your posts for the most part, but I guess my issue with LBJ is why he's just not upfront about his decisions. Other than that, I do think there's a a chance he does stay. But just like Melo, you hear LBJ talk about his future outside of basketball and the influence his children has on his careers longevity. Doesn't sound like a guy that is too easily pressed about whether or not his legacy is in question. He's certainly a surefire HoFer, and has enough accolades to propel him in the top 10 at this point.

I still think he wants to build a super team with his friends. But we will see whst happens!
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: droopdog7 on January 13, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
I think he stays in Cleveland too.  That would let him retain what little integrity he hasn’t left.  That’s got to mean something.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on January 13, 2018, 12:13:58 PM
Stay in Cleveland.

If he's really that committed in winning, then there is nowhere else he could go, unless he goes to a contender for the minimum.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Surferdad on January 13, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
If he goes to the Lakers, then frankly I think his legacy takes a hit, even if he wins a title there. He's also being put into the mix of Jordan vs. Lebron AND Kobe vs. Lebron, and if Lebron goes to LAL... then...

But if he goes to Houston to simply create a super-team, that would take a hit on his legacy as well. Ultimately, leaving the Cavaliers a 2nd time won't bode well for the King, even if he goes on to win another 1-2 rings elsewhere.

I think it's likely if he does leave, he's going either Sixers or Lakers, BUT I think even Lebron knows that going to LAL will not get him even a Finals appearance in a LOADED West with the way that team is constructed at the moment, and he'd need a 2nd max player to join him (like a Cousins). He could join the Sixers but him and Simmons would kind of look redundant honestly.

My Prediction: He surprises us all and STAYS in Cleveland.

Not his best option but if he really wants to try and surpass Jordan and keep his legacy/reputation, then he stays in CLE. Joining another elite team to become a superteam or going to a place like the Lakers (where Kobe is worshipped) kind of defeats that entire purpose.

TP to your response.

I can see and agree with your posts for the most part, but I guess my issue with LBJ is why he's just not upfront about his decisions. Other than that, I do think there's a a chance he does stay. But just like Melo, you hear LBJ talk about his future outside of basketball and the influence his children has on his careers longevity. Doesn't sound like a guy that is too easily pressed about whether or not his legacy is in question. He's certainly a surefire HoFer, and has enough accolades to propel him in the top 10 at this point.

I still think he wants to build a super team with his friends. But we will see whst happens!
This a certainly part of why Kyrie left.  He knew there was a chance LBJ would leave, so he took control of his own destiny.

Now think about this:  What about LBJ's other teammates from last year?  Wouldn't they also feel miffed at LBJ's inability to commit to Cleveland?  If the leader can't commit, why should they?  Is it a root behind their current lack commitment to play defense?  It's just a wild theory that occurred to me after those really bad couple of losses lately.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 13, 2018, 12:21:58 PM
Make a video of working out.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Ogaju on January 13, 2018, 12:31:29 PM
Durant messed up LBJ's plan to dominate with Cleveland.

Funny, but it now appears that GSW needed Durant despite their recent successes. Durant going to GSW is the singular move that put all of LBJ's plans in jeopardy.

His best move is to stay in Cleveland and just accept his championship winning days are probably over, or he could say pretty please to Kyrie and ask if he can join Kyrie's team. LeBron joins Boston and Celtics run off about 3 straight.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Rakulp on January 13, 2018, 12:43:03 PM
Leaving Cleveland a second time would be tough, for both him and the city/fans.  I've not seen anything he has said in public about possibly leaving (if anybody has, please pass it along...maybe I just missed it?)

IT's recovery and possibly bringing in someone like George in the off season may be enough to convince Lebron to continue to chase the rings and finish his career in Cleveland.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Phantom255x on January 13, 2018, 12:44:33 PM
Durant messed up LBJ's plan to dominate with Cleveland.

Funny, but it now appears that GSW needed Durant despite their recent successes. Durant going to GSW is the singular move that put all of LBJ's plans in jeopardy.

His best move is to stay in Cleveland and just accept his championship winning days are probably over, or he could say pretty please to Kyrie and ask if he can join Kyrie's team. LeBron joins Boston and Celtics run off about 3 straight.

That would be hilarious LOL.

We'd also get Banners 18, 19, 20 and 21 as a result!  ;D
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 13, 2018, 01:11:05 PM
enroll my kids in the school we ve already chosen .

Sign the max at La.   startworking on business deals ASAP .....local , state , national

b egin the next Laker whoop la ....party time .....Hollywood parties with all the celebs ....Jack of course .....LOL


Leave Cleveland HIgH and Dry

and in tears
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: wayupnorth on January 13, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
Retire.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 13, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
Retire.


yep what I would do ....but ...pros have a hard time walking away and say n aimve done enough. 
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 13, 2018, 01:14:49 PM
Durant messed up LBJ's plan to dominate with Cleveland.

Funny, but it now appears that GSW needed Durant despite their recent successes. Durant going to GSW is the singular move that put all of LBJ's plans in jeopardy.

His best move is to stay in Cleveland and just accept his championship winning days are probably over, or he could say pretty please to Kyrie and ask if he can join Kyrie's team. LeBron joins Boston and Celtics run off about 3 straight.

That would be hilarious LOL.

We'd also get Banners 18, 19, 20 and 21 as a result!  ;D

Actually that was shannon Sharps advice to Lebron ...just join the Celtics and win three rings
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 13, 2018, 01:15:42 PM
I just hope he stays in CLE for 1 or 2 years...

Give Kyrie a shot at going THROUGH him to the Finals.

Give BOS a shot at beating CLE (with LeBron) at FULL STRENGTH, with Hayward.

Don't leave CLE just yet, LB.

Besides -

(https://media.giphy.com/media/umWQh108RZcg8/giphy.gif)

...him leaving CLE would be a blow to Lance.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: bopna on January 13, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
The only legacy left for Lebrick to chase is really to be the first superstar to win a ring in three or more different teams..No one in history has done that..certainly not a superstar of his calibre. He aint chasing Jordan no more, he cant even reach Kobe right now so If he can win three from 3 diffrent teams then he does something special to carry with him. The problem is GS is pretty much cementedto win in the next 3 or 4 years ( C's ofcourse will try and say something about that..Right about now we are the only team capable of beating them).

Cavs ain't winning anything anymore, even if they get PG...They'd need an AD type to atleast have a chance. IF He joins Houston, well there will be war out West but even that ain't really guaranteed.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Csfan1984 on January 13, 2018, 02:23:47 PM
I'd over haul cavs.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: CelticsElite on January 13, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
Whine to the refs like every other day... or play
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Moranis on January 13, 2018, 03:01:01 PM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players). 
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Monkhouse on January 13, 2018, 03:06:49 PM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Moranis on January 13, 2018, 03:25:13 PM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
what if they trade Thompson for Jordan?  What if Marc Gasol becomes available and they land him?  What if the recent struggles are more about Thomas being very rusty and they figure it out once Thomas stops missing the broad side of a barn.  What if Crowder remembers how to play?  The Cavs have the best 10 man rotation in the East and a top 3 such rotation in the game. 

And let's not forget the Cavs were a very poor defensive team last year as well, but still cruised into the NBA Finals (they are worse this year, but they were still bad last year).

And they have a top 10 pick coming to them which they can use or trade this summer.   
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: wayupnorth on January 13, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
what if they trade Thompson for Jordan?  What if Marc Gasol becomes available and they land him?  What if the recent struggles are more about Thomas being very rusty and they figure it out once Thomas stops missing the broad side of a barn.  What if Crowder remembers how to play?  The Cavs have the best 10 man rotation in the East and a top 3 such rotation in the game. 

And let's not forget the Cavs were a very poor defensive team last year as well, but still cruised into the NBA Finals (they are worse this year, but they were still bad last year).

And they have a top 10 pick coming to them which they can use or trade this summer.   

So you are basically assuming an absolute best case scenario for Cleveland?
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Monkhouse on January 13, 2018, 03:44:50 PM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
what if they trade Thompson for Jordan?  What if Marc Gasol becomes available and they land him?  What if the recent struggles are more about Thomas being very rusty and they figure it out once Thomas stops missing the broad side of a barn.  What if Crowder remembers how to play?  The Cavs have the best 10 man rotation in the East and a top 3 such rotation in the game. 

And let's not forget the Cavs were a very poor defensive team last year as well, but still cruised into the NBA Finals (they are worse this year, but they were still bad last year).

And they have a top 10 pick coming to them which they can use or trade this summer.   

Not gonna happen, who in their right mind would take on Tristan Thompson's contract? Any trade for Jordan, the Cavs need to give up either a first rounder, or the Nets pick. If Gasol becomes available, he's not getting traded without the Brooklyn pick, that is for sure, because there are going to definitely be many suitors for him, not just the Cavs. And Crowder is an great player, I do think the hate on him is unwarranted, but you're joking if you seriously think he's going to put anywhere near the same numbers as he has on the Celtics... My main issue with the Cavs? Stop trotting out that stupid Love and Crowder frontcourt. It's not working. We've all seen first hand that Crowder is not better off at the 4. This is my proposal for the Cavs lineup.

IT
Shumpert or Korver (Korver is still great at team help defense, even if he gets smoked 1 on 1 man on man D)
Crowder (He can assume his natural position, play his role at 3&D)
Lebron (I think he should stay at this position to take advantages of mismatches and it'll be easier for him to run in transition or start the fast break off of rebounds.)
Love or TT (Ideally, should depend on matchups. I think TT is a better defender, but does he really make up for his lack of spacing?)

Bring Wade, Green, and Smith off the bench. Why in god's name is Lue starting Smith? You do realize he has putting up garbage numbers?

Thomas will always be a 20+ PPG scorer, but how are you going to hide his weaknesses on defense?

But I disagree about the best 10 man rotation. That is just absolutely false. Top 3 rotation in the game? Now you're just making things up lol.

The Cavs will still be an offensive juggernaut, but your entire roster is riddled with players that are past their prime.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Moranis on January 13, 2018, 09:56:24 PM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
what if they trade Thompson for Jordan?  What if Marc Gasol becomes available and they land him?  What if the recent struggles are more about Thomas being very rusty and they figure it out once Thomas stops missing the broad side of a barn.  What if Crowder remembers how to play?  The Cavs have the best 10 man rotation in the East and a top 3 such rotation in the game. 

And let's not forget the Cavs were a very poor defensive team last year as well, but still cruised into the NBA Finals (they are worse this year, but they were still bad last year).

And they have a top 10 pick coming to them which they can use or trade this summer.   

So you are basically assuming an absolute best case scenario for Cleveland?
no but where is he going that pays him the mac and gives him a better shot at the title. There just aren't many options for him
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on January 13, 2018, 10:13:48 PM
I actually want him to stay at Cleveland but the team around him is very poor and they don't really have many assets other than that Brooklyn pick but how much will you get for that? They need an upgrade at pretty much every position. They need to move Love and Thompson neither of which will be easy.

I'd say the best situation for him is still Houston if they can get off Anderson's contract and possibly if they can move stuff around even Spurs.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: TheisTheisBaby on January 14, 2018, 12:49:23 AM
He's not winning anywhere he goes because no team in the West, Houston included, is beating the Warriors even by adding Lebron.  In the East, we've already surpassed the Cavs for the now and future.  And they're the clear cut 2nd best team.  At 33 he's not gonna magically put the 76ers over the top. 

So what he's gonna do is go to the Lakers solely for the glitz and glamour.  He's already mentally checking out from basketball so he can focus on a career in Hollywood.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: azzenfrost on January 14, 2018, 12:57:23 AM
I would stay in Cleveland and do my best at recruiting even more talent. I would want a stake in the team too.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on January 14, 2018, 01:07:13 AM
He's not winning anywhere he goes because no team in the West, Houston included, is beating the Warriors even by adding Lebron.  In the East, we've already surpassed the Cavs for the now and future.  And they're the clear cut 2nd best team.  At 33 he's not gonna magically put the 76ers over the top. 

So what he's gonna do is go to the Lakers solely for the glitz and glamour. He's already mentally checking out from basketball so he can focus on a career in Hollywood.

LeBron is currently putting up the best, most efficient numbers of his career (27 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 1.7 steals, 1 block on .617% shooting and .380 3P%) I'd hardly call that mentally checking out. His team is terrible and old, the coaching is average and the management is poor. Also James or his agent has never mentioned any interest in LA ever, that's the media like ESPN making up rubbish because he purchased a house there. With that same logic Brady is going to the Rams or Chargers because he lives over there in the offseason.

You really think a line up of James, Harden, Paul, Ariza and Capela couldn't give Golden State a challenge? I think it'd be very close.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Somebody on January 14, 2018, 01:31:02 AM
Go to boston.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Ogaju on January 14, 2018, 02:23:02 AM
The only legacy left for Lebrick to chase is really to be the first superstar to win a ring in three or more different teams..No one in history has done that..certainly not a superstar of his calibre. He aint chasing Jordan no more, he cant even reach Kobe right now so If he can win three from 3 diffrent teams then he does something special to carry with him. The problem is GS is pretty much cementedto win in the next 3 or 4 years ( C's ofcourse will try and say something about that..Right about now we are the only team capable of beating them).

Cavs ain't winning anything anymore, even if they get PG...They'd need an AD type to atleast have a chance. IF He joins Houston, well there will be war out West but even that ain't really guaranteed.

Somewhere Robert Horry is trying to get your attention. I know you qualified your point by saying 'at least no one of LeBron's superstar caliber has ever done this' but the truth is if LeBron chases a ring for the 3rd time in his career then even he ceases to be of the Caliber of the LeBron James we know today. He simply gets reduced to the class of lets say a Shaquille O'Neal. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing it just does not get you to the rarified air of a Jordan or Kobe.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Somebody on January 14, 2018, 03:54:19 AM
The only legacy left for Lebrick to chase is really to be the first superstar to win a ring in three or more different teams..No one in history has done that..certainly not a superstar of his calibre. He aint chasing Jordan no more, he cant even reach Kobe right now so If he can win three from 3 diffrent teams then he does something special to carry with him. The problem is GS is pretty much cementedto win in the next 3 or 4 years ( C's ofcourse will try and say something about that..Right about now we are the only team capable of beating them).

Cavs ain't winning anything anymore, even if they get PG...They'd need an AD type to atleast have a chance. IF He joins Houston, well there will be war out West but even that ain't really guaranteed.

Somewhere Robert Horry is trying to get your attention. I know you qualified your point by saying 'at least no one of LeBron's superstar caliber has ever done this' but the truth is if LeBron chases a ring for the 3rd time in his career then even he ceases to be of the Caliber of the LeBron James we know today. He simply gets reduced to the class of lets say a Shaquille O'Neal. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing it just does not get you to the rarified air of a Jordan or Kobe.
Certainly don't think so, say if he joins our very own Celtics and with his buddy Kyrie get the 19 championship over one of the most dominant teams talent wise in NBA history in GSW no one will say he's ring chasing. I think he will be remembered for leading 3 different teams to championships instead of ring chasing ala KD because he forms superteams instead of joining one. I'd give him the "rarified air" of say Jordan and Kobe, both of which had excellent management to surround both of them to championships eventually in the their careers instead of having **** FOs like LeBron did in Cleveland.
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: celticsclay on January 14, 2018, 04:23:56 AM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
what if they trade Thompson for Jordan?  What if Marc Gasol becomes available and they land him?  What if the recent struggles are more about Thomas being very rusty and they figure it out once Thomas stops missing the broad side of a barn.  What if Crowder remembers how to play?  The Cavs have the best 10 man rotation in the East and a top 3 such rotation in the game. 

And let's not forget the Cavs were a very poor defensive team last year as well, but still cruised into the NBA Finals (they are worse this year, but they were still bad last year).

And they have a top 10 pick coming to them which they can use or trade this summer.   

So you are basically assuming an absolute best case scenario for Cleveland?

You are quickly becoming my favorite poster
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: playdream on January 14, 2018, 07:13:58 AM
Lebron will go to whatever team can pay him the max and give him the best chance to win a title.  So that would make Cleveland the clear front runner, but if Houston can figure out a way to clear the salary and keep both Harden and Paul, they would have a real shot.  The only other teams that make any sense are Philadelphia and the Lakers (but only if the Lakers are able to land a couple of other top tier players).

I think it's pretty telling that there is already many issues and problems with defense, and players now frustrated with how ball dominant Lebron has been. He literally has been in control of every offensive possession, not to mention he had to pay 40 minutes last night and still lose to the Pacers. I don't know where on Earth, you possibly think Cleveland is anywhere near the chance of winning a championship. The East is relatively wide open, but its clear cut that the Wizards, Raptors, Cleveland, and Celtics are the only dominant forces in the East currently. We will wait and see what happens in the playoffs, but this Cleveland team as is, doesn't have the roster nor enough offensive firepower to make up for the lapses they have on defense.
what if they trade Thompson for Jordan?  What if Marc Gasol becomes available and they land him?  What if the recent struggles are more about Thomas being very rusty and they figure it out once Thomas stops missing the broad side of a barn.  What if Crowder remembers how to play?  The Cavs have the best 10 man rotation in the East and a top 3 such rotation in the game. 

And let's not forget the Cavs were a very poor defensive team last year as well, but still cruised into the NBA Finals (they are worse this year, but they were still bad last year).

And they have a top 10 pick coming to them which they can use or trade this summer.   
Then bring them on
We will beat them anyway
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 14, 2018, 08:19:48 AM
Walk into an active Volcano!

I think he will go somewhere where he has a loaded chance to win a title. 
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: cman88 on January 14, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
hes not staying with Cleveland. They are at the point now where Miami was before Lebron left.

They are full of overpaid veterans that lebron wanted and have no roster flexibility to improve their team...save trading the brooklyn pick. a much better cavs team last year got blown out by golden state

If lebrons goal is to go to the finals every year and get blown out of the water by golden state...then he will stay with cleveland.

people keep looking at past season to explain that the cavs will figure it out. BUT their defense has been this bad all year. Even on their winning streak. Its not going to get better, and having to outscore your opponent 120-119 every night is not a winning formula
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 14, 2018, 09:32:44 AM
Walk into an active Volcano!

I think he will go somewhere where he has a loaded chance to win a title.

That ...if titles really matter more than money ....

He goes to LA where he can probably double his income with new business deals .   Although , it will take 2-3 years for LA to mesh , find a coach ,  and really be in position to beat Boston and GS .  by then he is 36 -37 years old ....and really really whining . 

Time is running out ....kinda like Kobe last years.   LA riskes big rebuild once again ....this comes with the price of signing LeBron ....knowing once he is gone your in auto tank mode.  I think the chance of Lebron winning a title for Lakers is  very slim ....time is against him .  But i suppose if Curry or KD get hurt anything is possible.


Houston is his best chance to add a ring.   Harden does all the Kyrie scoring he is used to.   Will Houston pay the luxury tax to win a title
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: konkmv on January 14, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
Asks for the Celtics to play for them for the minimum... kyrie says thats the teamwork spirit i want... comes behind Tatum and Hayward from the bench... gets the 6th man reward after scoring 22-24p against every bench team... wins 4-5 titles in a row and gets an assistance coach job behind brad...
Title: Re: You're LeBron, what do you do next?
Post by: timpiker on January 14, 2018, 10:37:37 AM
I think LeBUM will take the best overall financial deal he can find = basketball $ plus endorsements $ and business opportunities $ to set him up to buy a team in retirement.

Now, if Snyder offers something with team ownership, he might stay in Cleveland.

I think.