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Shams announces All-Stars Early, open for spoilers
« on: January 30, 2020, 06:29:32 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2020, 06:34:38 PM »

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I love leaks. Ruins the overdone money grubbing specials.

Go Tatum!
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2020, 06:47:38 PM »

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congrats tatum , but i really feel sorry for JB , jayson is getting more recognition from fans , media , players and now couches even tho brown is having a better season at least in my opinion he is having similar offensive numbers with better efficiency and take the harder 1 on 1 task on D , what the hell am i missing ?!
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2020, 06:56:16 PM »

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I'm happy for Gobert.  About time.
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Re: Shams announces All-Stars Early, open for spoilers
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2020, 06:57:25 PM »

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Quote from: celticsbaby89 on January 30, 2020, 06:47:38 PM
congrats tatum , but i really feel sorry for JB , jayson is getting more recognition from fans , media , players and now coaches even tho brown is having a better season at least in my opinion he is having similar offensive numbers with better efficiency and take the harder 1 on 1 task on D , what the hell am i missing ?!

I totally agree, but from a positional standpoint, this shouldn't come as any surprise. Of course the coaches vote is independent of the starters' vote, but Jaylen was way behind other guards while Tatum looked to be a shoe-in for the front court. It's the same reason people were complaining about Butler not starting (beat out by Embiid, Giannis, and Siakam) even though he just as easily could have taken over for Trae (or Kemba  :o ) The Cs were never going to get more than two All-Stars this season.

It's a bummer that Jaylen didn't get in as I do think he deserved the nod this year, but hopefully he can continue to improve even more and just become a perennial All-Star starting next season.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2020, 07:00:39 PM »

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I'm a petty guy, I enjoy Devin Booker still not making it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2020, 07:05:20 PM »

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Go kick some ass, Jaylen.  Take it personally.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2020, 07:06:22 PM »

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WHAT??!!  >:( NO TACKO!!  ::)

a fraud. cheating. swindle. bribes. will justice never be realized in the US?  :'(
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2020, 07:09:22 PM »

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Two questions:

1) Does this help Tatum's Hall of Fame case?

2) Does this hurt Brown's Hall of Fame case?

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Re: Shams announces All-Stars Early, open for spoilers
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2020, 07:09:30 PM »

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I said this elsewhere but think it belongs here too. Regarding Brown not making it:

You look at players that got in and he wasn't getting in ahead of Lowry or Simmons or Middleton.

All are former All-Stars. All have a similar secondary offensive role on their team, like Jaylen, and like Jaylen are averaging 20 PPG on efficient numbers and are at least good defenders. Jaylen is clearly the worst passer but is the 2nd best rebounder and maybe best defender.

I think he was worthy but he wasn't unseating any of those All-Stars while having only similar years to them. He also wasn't unseating any of them, the 2nd player from their clubs to make the team, when Tatum made it as Boston's 2nd player already.

If Tatum made it in as one of the two "wild card" spots, then the only other guy Jaylen could have beat out was Jayson. I think he was equally as deserving as Tatum, but Tatum gets better press and is more the media darling, so he got in. Jaylen will get in many times in future years. He can be patient.
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2020, 07:09:51 PM »

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Quote from: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 30, 2020, 07:09:22 PM
Two questions:

1) Does this help Tatum's Hall of Fame case?

2) Does this hurt Brown's Hall of Fame case?

;D
one answer.

no.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2020, 07:35:44 PM »

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Bradley Beal got robbed! He’s very comparable to Trae (http://bkref.com/tiny/14sFz), with worse offence but definitely better defence, and his team is better.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2020, 07:40:16 PM »

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Quote from: gouki88 on January 30, 2020, 07:35:44 PM
Bradley Beal got robbed! He’s very comparable to Trae (http://bkref.com/tiny/14sFz), with worse offence but definitely better defence, and his team is better.

Yeah I don't understand that either.   It seems like Beal, Jaylen, Devin Booker, maybe even Zack Levine all have justifiable smirks on their faces right now.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2020, 07:47:08 PM »

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Quote from: blink on January 30, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: gouki88 on January 30, 2020, 07:35:44 PM
Bradley Beal got robbed! He’s very comparable to Trae (http://bkref.com/tiny/14sFz), with worse offence but definitely better defence, and his team is better.

Yeah I don't understand that either.   It seems like Beal, Jaylen, Devin Booker, maybe even Zack Levine all have justifiable smirks on their faces right now.

You can't compare a Starter to a Reserve though since they're different selection processes.

If Young wasn't a starter, I personally don't think the coaches would have selected him as a reserve.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2020, 07:49:54 PM »

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Quote from: bdm860 on January 30, 2020, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: blink on January 30, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: gouki88 on January 30, 2020, 07:35:44 PM
Bradley Beal got robbed! He’s very comparable to Trae (http://bkref.com/tiny/14sFz), with worse offence but definitely better defence, and his team is better.

Yeah I don't understand that either.   It seems like Beal, Jaylen, Devin Booker, maybe even Zack Levine all have justifiable smirks on their faces right now.

You can't compare a Starter to a Reserve though since they're different selection processes.

If Young wasn't a starter, I personally don't think the coaches would have selected him as a reserve.
Agree.  Right now, I take Beal over Young.
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