Stein: Kings want Kuzma

[RockinRyA]

Smart, Semi, Green, BOS 1st, MIL 1st

for

Kuzma, Bradley, Cousins

I think I'd do that even believing Cousins won't come back this year.  I just think Kuzma would be a real nice fit on the team and think Bradley could give you much of what Smart does (though not as well).

Post Trade
PG - Walker, Wanamaker, Edwards
Wings - Brown, Hayward, Bradley, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Kuzma, G. Williams
Bigs - Theis, Kanter, R. Williams, Poirier, Cousins?

Lakers get Smart who can be their do everything type player and is basically an improved version of Bradley and Rondo at this point.  Add Semi as a defender down low.  They also get a couple of late 1st's to replenish their young players or that they can use in trades.

Not sure either team does it, but I think it is a reasonable enough trade value wise for both teams.

You just want your Lebron to win a championship with this trade. The Celtics will get worse with this. Trading a great defender+picks for a guy who needs the ball that cant shoot the three or defend well?

[Moranis]

Smart, Semi, Green, BOS 1st, MIL 1st

for

Kuzma, Bradley, Cousins

I think I'd do that even believing Cousins won't come back this year.  I just think Kuzma would be a real nice fit on the team and think Bradley could give you much of what Smart does (though not as well).

Post Trade
PG - Walker, Wanamaker, Edwards
Wings - Brown, Hayward, Bradley, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Kuzma, G. Williams
Bigs - Theis, Kanter, R. Williams, Poirier, Cousins?

Lakers get Smart who can be their do everything type player and is basically an improved version of Bradley and Rondo at this point.  Add Semi as a defender down low.  They also get a couple of late 1st's to replenish their young players or that they can use in trades.

Not sure either team does it, but I think it is a reasonable enough trade value wise for both teams.

You just want your Lebron to win a championship with this trade. The Celtics will get worse with this. Trading a great defender+picks for a guy who needs the ball that cant shoot the three or defend well?

I don't expect Boston to win this year and think the trade would increase Boston's title odds down the line, because I really like Kuzma as a player.  I think he would be a pretty solid fit long term and I really like a potential Brown, Tatum, Kuzma starting at the 2, 3, 4 for like a decade.  I think that trio has a chance to be very good long term.  Kuzma's poor shooting is overblown.  He isn't an elite shooter, but has a nice touch and isn't exactly terrible either (33.6 in his career).  He is older, but he is in just his 3rd year and started off the year injured.  He has been very good the last month, especially when he has started with Davis was out. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Smart, Semi, Green, BOS 1st, MIL 1st

for

Kuzma, Bradley, Cousins

I think I'd do that even believing Cousins won't come back this year.  I just think Kuzma would be a real nice fit on the team and think Bradley could give you much of what Smart does (though not as well).

Post Trade
PG - Walker, Wanamaker, Edwards
Wings - Brown, Hayward, Bradley, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Kuzma, G. Williams
Bigs - Theis, Kanter, R. Williams, Poirier, Cousins?

Lakers get Smart who can be their do everything type player and is basically an improved version of Bradley and Rondo at this point.  Add Semi as a defender down low.  They also get a couple of late 1st's to replenish their young players or that they can use in trades.

Not sure either team does it, but I think it is a reasonable enough trade value wise for both teams.

You just want your Lebron to win a championship with this trade. The Celtics will get worse with this. Trading a great defender+picks for a guy who needs the ball that cant shoot the three or defend well?

I don't expect Boston to win this year and think the trade would increase Boston's title odds down the line, because I really like Kuzma as a player.  I think he would be a pretty solid fit long term and I really like a potential Brown, Tatum, Kuzma starting at the 2, 3, 4 for like a decade.  I think that trio has a chance to be very good long term.  Kuzma's poor shooting is overblown.  He isn't an elite shooter, but has a nice touch and isn't exactly terrible either (33.6 in his career).  He is older, but he is in just his 3rd year and started off the year injured.  He has been very good the last month, especially when he has started with Davis was out.

I think Kuzma's playing style would not pair well with Brown and Tatum. He's not a true big that can hold down the center spot, and he's kind of a selfish basketball player who would take shots away from Tatum and Brown. On top of that, even at his best he is a below average defender who struggles with rotations and discipline.

I don't think that's an ideal fit next to Tatum and Brown long-term. It would be better to have an unselfish swing who can play versatile defense.

I also don't think Cousins is coming back this year, and even if he does, I don't think he would be a good fit on this team right now. He was exposed playing for the Warriors last year and I'm sure he's only gotten a bit slower and less effective in the paint.

On top of that, switching Bradley for Smart makes sense on paper, but it suddenly takes our defensive rotations from a highly versatile team to a team with two under-sized guards that can be exposed.

No thank-you on all accounts, but I do like where your head is at.

[Somebody]

Smart, Semi, Green, BOS 1st, MIL 1st

for

Kuzma, Bradley, Cousins

I think I'd do that even believing Cousins won't come back this year.  I just think Kuzma would be a real nice fit on the team and think Bradley could give you much of what Smart does (though not as well).

Post Trade
PG - Walker, Wanamaker, Edwards
Wings - Brown, Hayward, Bradley, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Kuzma, G. Williams
Bigs - Theis, Kanter, R. Williams, Poirier, Cousins?

Lakers get Smart who can be their do everything type player and is basically an improved version of Bradley and Rondo at this point.  Add Semi as a defender down low.  They also get a couple of late 1st's to replenish their young players or that they can use in trades.

Not sure either team does it, but I think it is a reasonable enough trade value wise for both teams.

You just want your Lebron to win a championship with this trade. The Celtics will get worse with this. Trading a great defender+picks for a guy who needs the ball that cant shoot the three or defend well?

I don't expect Boston to win this year and think the trade would increase Boston's title odds down the line, because I really like Kuzma as a player.  I think he would be a pretty solid fit long term and I really like a potential Brown, Tatum, Kuzma starting at the 2, 3, 4 for like a decade.  I think that trio has a chance to be very good long term.  Kuzma's poor shooting is overblown.  He isn't an elite shooter, but has a nice touch and isn't exactly terrible either (33.6 in his career).  He is older, but he is in just his 3rd year and started off the year injured.  He has been very good the last month, especially when he has started with Davis was out.

I think Kuzma's playing style would not pair well with Brown and Tatum. He's not a true big that can hold down the center spot, and he's kind of a selfish basketball player who would take shots away from Tatum and Brown. On top of that, even at his best he is a below average defender who struggles with rotations and discipline.

I don't think that's an ideal fit next to Tatum and Brown long-term. It would be better to have an unselfish swing who can play versatile defense.

I also don't think Cousins is coming back this year, and even if he does, I don't think he would be a good fit on this team right now. He was exposed playing for the Warriors last year and I'm sure he's only gotten a bit slower and less effective in the paint.

On top of that, switching Bradley for Smart makes sense on paper, but it suddenly takes our defensive rotations from a highly versatile team to a team with two under-sized guards that can be exposed.

No thank-you on all accounts, but I do like where your head is at.

^^^, it doesn't really make sense once you look at how the pieces fit on the basketball court.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Smart, Semi, Green, BOS 1st, MIL 1st

for

Kuzma, Bradley, Cousins

I think I'd do that even believing Cousins won't come back this year.  I just think Kuzma would be a real nice fit on the team and think Bradley could give you much of what Smart does (though not as well).

Post Trade
PG - Walker, Wanamaker, Edwards
Wings - Brown, Hayward, Bradley, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Kuzma, G. Williams
Bigs - Theis, Kanter, R. Williams, Poirier, Cousins?

Lakers get Smart who can be their do everything type player and is basically an improved version of Bradley and Rondo at this point.  Add Semi as a defender down low.  They also get a couple of late 1st's to replenish their young players or that they can use in trades.

Not sure either team does it, but I think it is a reasonable enough trade value wise for both teams.

You just want your Lebron to win a championship with this trade. The Celtics will get worse with this. Trading a great defender+picks for a guy who needs the ball that cant shoot the three or defend well?

I don't expect Boston to win this year and think the trade would increase Boston's title odds down the line, because I really like Kuzma as a player.  I think he would be a pretty solid fit long term and I really like a potential Brown, Tatum, Kuzma starting at the 2, 3, 4 for like a decade.  I think that trio has a chance to be very good long term.  Kuzma's poor shooting is overblown.  He isn't an elite shooter, but has a nice touch and isn't exactly terrible either (33.6 in his career).  He is older, but he is in just his 3rd year and started off the year injured.  He has been very good the last month, especially when he has started with Davis was out.

I like a trade with similar framework with a different team like the Bulls

I'd be interested in Markkanen and Valentine.

I think Markkanen would be a much better fit than Kuzma. He has a bit more feel for defensive rotations and can make some disruptive plays with his hands. He's also a much better shooter.

Problem is that I really don't want to trade Smart.

[greenhead85]

Instead of Kuzma, wouldn't it be better to give up Smart, Semi and Wannamaker for an athletic defender and rebounder in Aaron Gordon? He is quick, strong and long enough to defend against guards and forwards.

[Phantom255x]

Lol people actually think Ainge would trade Smart right now

[Somebody]

Btw is there any chance of us getting Bogdan? He'd be a great bench scorer for us and his defence is actually pretty solid, Poirier+Robert+Edwards works in terms of salary. Maybe we throw in some non Memphis picks to sweeten the pot?

[nickagneta]

Btw is there any chance of us getting Bogdan? He'd be a great bench scorer for us and his defence is actually pretty solid, Poirier+Robert+Edwards works in terms of salary. Maybe we throw in some non Memphis picks to sweeten the pot?

Has there been recent word that the Kings would be willing to move Bogdanovic, because I thought they loved the kid? Sactown offered Bjelica for Kuzma but when Lakers instead said they wanted Brogdon, the Kings scoffed. That was a deal breaker.

If the Kings wouldn't take Kuzma(a good NBA player) for Bogdanovic, what makes you think Poirier(probably not an NBA level player and never will be), Timelord(great raw talent that might have long term health issues), Edwards(not an NBA level player right now but has a ceiling of a good, #8-#10 in the rotation bench player)and picks would make the Kings management change their mind to move Bogdanovic?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Btw is there any chance of us getting Bogdan? He'd be a great bench scorer for us and his defence is actually pretty solid, Poirier+Robert+Edwards works in terms of salary. Maybe we throw in some non Memphis picks to sweeten the pot?

I like him but we already have too many ball-handlers. Plus, his contract is up and we don't have the salary space. Unless we knew Gordon was leaving...

[SHAQATTACK]

Lol people actually think Ainge would trade Smart right now

well i know one id trade him for maybe two ....but i would be put in celtics blog prison for say n ....so i ll just keep still

[Surferdad]

Instead of Kuzma, wouldn't it be better to give up Smart, Semi and Wannamaker for an athletic defender and rebounder in Aaron Gordon? He is quick, strong and long enough to defend against guards and forwards.

Besides the fact that that package is way too much to give up, Gordon is just not that good.

[gouki88]

Smart, Semi, Green, BOS 1st, MIL 1st

for

Kuzma, Bradley, Cousins

I think I'd do that even believing Cousins won't come back this year.  I just think Kuzma would be a real nice fit on the team and think Bradley could give you much of what Smart does (though not as well).

Post Trade
PG - Walker, Wanamaker, Edwards
Wings - Brown, Hayward, Bradley, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Kuzma, G. Williams
Bigs - Theis, Kanter, R. Williams, Poirier, Cousins?

Lakers get Smart who can be their do everything type player and is basically an improved version of Bradley and Rondo at this point.  Add Semi as a defender down low.  They also get a couple of late 1st's to replenish their young players or that they can use in trades.

Not sure either team does it, but I think it is a reasonable enough trade value wise for both teams.

It'd be reasonable if we were the ones getting two firsts in return.

100%, considering Kuzma is really nothing special at all, AB is a shell of himself and Cousins might never be good again (he certainly wasn’t in the playoffs).

[Monkhouse]

Anyone trying to trade Smart for Kuzma baffles me...