I dislike Kyrie(merged threads)

[ChillyWilly]

There's a few reasons why Kyrie is taking a lot of stick from Boston fans, but the main one I think is that he basically ghosted us after promising us he was all in on being a Celtic. First his promise to season ticket holders "if you're willing to have me back, I plan on re-signing here" at the start of 2018, then his commercial saying he wanted his number retired. Add to that the fact that we as fans were a very optimistic bunch with high expectations at that time, we thought we would plug Kyrie and Gordon back into our ECF reaching team and would challenge the Dubs in the finals, with Kyrie leading the way.

We all know what happened. Kyrie starting throwing his younger teammates under the bus, he became the face of the frustrations within the team because he was the highest profile player and because he was willing to talk about it. Then the rumors about him wanting to pair up with Durant wouldn't go away and the media kept bringing up his free agency and he handled it badly. Then he promised us we would do well in the playoffs "because I'm here". Then when we got to the playoffs, he just couldn't (or wouldn't) deliver when it mattered.

So all that was bad enough for fans...then he basically just ghosted us and signed with Brooklyn, didn't say anything to Boston or about Boston. Jaylen Brown and Al apologized to fans, we didn't hear anything from Kyrie. Aron Baynes took out a full page ad thanking Boston for his time here. (Even Kelly Olynyk did so when he was traded to Miami.) Our last Boston-related comments from him was more about him, saying he hadn't been in a situation where "he" got hammered 4-1 in the playoffs and that "he" would learn from it. Nothing about the team. Then he just...disappeared. First we hear about him signing elsewhere is with his slickly produced "I'm Coming Home" video, where there wasn't any word about Boston at all.

So it felt not only like he ghosted us after being engaged without explaining anything, but also that he dissed us, dissed what it means to be a Celtic, all the history, respect for the jersey, all that stuff. And not only that, he just so happens to be injured when he's supposed to play in Boston for the first time after leaving (things that make you go hmmmm???) then he doesn't even show up on the bench! Obviously there's no rule that he has to be here when he's injured, but that just so looks like a chicken act. No wonder people booed the hell out of him.

I don't think Kyrie is a bad person. I think he's a wondrously talented basketball player. I don't think he means to be a bad teammate, and I don't think the Celtics think he is. I do think he struggles with manning up to things that are difficult (like having to explain why he broke his word). God knows a lot of people do. It's why he tries to avoid playing in Cleveland, or Boston. I'd be surprised if he played here in the next 3 years.

Of course he doesn't owe us any explanation (not even his long rambling defensive Instagram missive). Personally I moved on from him long ago and don't need any explanation (even though I seem to be the starter of this thread, in my defense it wasn't titled this when I posted it  ). But think of how much better it would have gone for him if he had a) been much more thoughtful and introspective about the Milwaukee series loss, and to do what Al or Aron did, make some kind of statement thanking Boston fans for supporting him during his time here, saying it was a hard decision but he wanted to go home. People would be disappointed but nobody would begrudge someone wanting to go home. Or if he had showed up to take the boos and turned it into a laugh, I think people would have respected that. They probably would have still booed him, but not as much 

No more will be said about Kyrie from me as this sums it up perfectly.

Thank you sir catch this TP

[slamtheking]

There's a few reasons why Kyrie is taking a lot of stick from Boston fans, but the main one I think is that he basically ghosted us after promising us he was all in on being a Celtic. First his promise to season ticket holders "if you're willing to have me back, I plan on re-signing here" at the start of 2018, then his commercial saying he wanted his number retired. Add to that the fact that we as fans were a very optimistic bunch with high expectations at that time, we thought we would plug Kyrie and Gordon back into our ECF reaching team and would challenge the Dubs in the finals, with Kyrie leading the way.

We all know what happened. Kyrie starting throwing his younger teammates under the bus, he became the face of the frustrations within the team because he was the highest profile player and because he was willing to talk about it. Then the rumors about him wanting to pair up with Durant wouldn't go away and the media kept bringing up his free agency and he handled it badly. Then he promised us we would do well in the playoffs "because I'm here". Then when we got to the playoffs, he just couldn't (or wouldn't) deliver when it mattered.

So all that was bad enough for fans...then he basically just ghosted us and signed with Brooklyn, didn't say anything to Boston or about Boston. Jaylen Brown and Al apologized to fans, we didn't hear anything from Kyrie. Aron Baynes took out a full page ad thanking Boston for his time here. (Even Kelly Olynyk did so when he was traded to Miami.) Our last Boston-related comments from him was more about him, saying he hadn't been in a situation where "he" got hammered 4-1 in the playoffs and that "he" would learn from it. Nothing about the team. Then he just...disappeared. First we hear about him signing elsewhere is with his slickly produced "I'm Coming Home" video, where there wasn't any word about Boston at all.

So it felt not only like he ghosted us after being engaged without explaining anything, but also that he dissed us, dissed what it means to be a Celtic, all the history, respect for the jersey, all that stuff. And not only that, he just so happens to be injured when he's supposed to play in Boston for the first time after leaving (things that make you go hmmmm???) then he doesn't even show up on the bench! Obviously there's no rule that he has to be here when he's injured, but that just so looks like a chicken act. No wonder people booed the hell out of him.

I don't think Kyrie is a bad person. I think he's a wondrously talented basketball player. I don't think he means to be a bad teammate, and I don't think the Celtics think he is. I do think he struggles with manning up to things that are difficult (like having to explain why he broke his word). God knows a lot of people do. It's why he tries to avoid playing in Cleveland, or Boston. I'd be surprised if he played here in the next 3 years.

Of course he doesn't owe us any explanation (not even his long rambling defensive Instagram missive). Personally I moved on from him long ago and don't need any explanation (even though I seem to be the starter of this thread, in my defense it wasn't titled this when I posted it  ). But think of how much better it would have gone for him if he had a) been much more thoughtful and introspective about the Milwaukee series loss, and to do what Al or Aron did, make some kind of statement thanking Boston fans for supporting him during his time here, saying it was a hard decision but he wanted to go home. People would be disappointed but nobody would begrudge someone wanting to go home. Or if he had showed up to take the boos and turned it into a laugh, I think people would have respected that. They probably would have still booed him, but not as much 

Well stated.  TP

[Ogaju]

There's a few reasons why Kyrie is taking a lot of stick from Boston fans, but the main one I think is that he basically ghosted us after promising us he was all in on being a Celtic. First his promise to season ticket holders "if you're willing to have me back, I plan on re-signing here" at the start of 2018, then his commercial saying he wanted his number retired. Add to that the fact that we as fans were a very optimistic bunch with high expectations at that time, we thought we would plug Kyrie and Gordon back into our ECF reaching team and would challenge the Dubs in the finals, with Kyrie leading the way.

We all know what happened. Kyrie starting throwing his younger teammates under the bus, he became the face of the frustrations within the team because he was the highest profile player and because he was willing to talk about it. Then the rumors about him wanting to pair up with Durant wouldn't go away and the media kept bringing up his free agency and he handled it badly. Then he promised us we would do well in the playoffs "because I'm here". Then when we got to the playoffs, he just couldn't (or wouldn't) deliver when it mattered.

So all that was bad enough for fans...then he basically just ghosted us and signed with Brooklyn, didn't say anything to Boston or about Boston. Jaylen Brown and Al apologized to fans, we didn't hear anything from Kyrie. Aron Baynes took out a full page ad thanking Boston for his time here. (Even Kelly Olynyk did so when he was traded to Miami.) Our last Boston-related comments from him was more about him, saying he hadn't been in a situation where "he" got hammered 4-1 in the playoffs and that "he" would learn from it. Nothing about the team. Then he just...disappeared. First we hear about him signing elsewhere is with his slickly produced "I'm Coming Home" video, where there wasn't any word about Boston at all.

So it felt not only like he ghosted us after being engaged without explaining anything, but also that he dissed us, dissed what it means to be a Celtic, all the history, respect for the jersey, all that stuff. And not only that, he just so happens to be injured when he's supposed to play in Boston for the first time after leaving (things that make you go hmmmm???) then he doesn't even show up on the bench! Obviously there's no rule that he has to be here when he's injured, but that just so looks like a chicken act. No wonder people booed the hell out of him.

I don't think Kyrie is a bad person. I think he's a wondrously talented basketball player. I don't think he means to be a bad teammate, and I don't think the Celtics think he is. I do think he struggles with manning up to things that are difficult (like having to explain why he broke his word). God knows a lot of people do. It's why he tries to avoid playing in Cleveland, or Boston. I'd be surprised if he played here in the next 3 years.

Of course he doesn't owe us any explanation (not even his long rambling defensive Instagram missive). Personally I moved on from him long ago and don't need any explanation (even though I seem to be the starter of this thread, in my defense it wasn't titled this when I posted it  ). But think of how much better it would have gone for him if he had a) been much more thoughtful and introspective about the Milwaukee series loss, and to do what Al or Aron did, make some kind of statement thanking Boston fans for supporting him during his time here, saying it was a hard decision but he wanted to go home. People would be disappointed but nobody would begrudge someone wanting to go home. Or if he had showed up to take the boos and turned it into a laugh, I think people would have respected that. They probably would have still booed him, but not as much 

QED

That is the one thing left out of your post. TP to you.

[Roy H.]

Preach.

Kevin Garnett was quick to answer whether he was surprised Kyrie Irving left Boston.


“No,” he said flatly, before implying that Irving, the Nets point guard, didn’t have the mental makeup for Beantown.

“Boston’s a tough town, dawg. You have to have some major cojones to be there,” Garnett said. “You got to want that. The people want it for you. That’s why Paul (Pierce) is perfect for it. Paul wants the shot every time. Like, ‘You’re 0-for-14.’ And he’s like, ‘I know, but they WANT it.’”

[Donoghus]

Preach.

Kevin Garnett was quick to answer whether he was surprised Kyrie Irving left Boston.


“No,” he said flatly, before implying that Irving, the Nets point guard, didn’t have the mental makeup for Beantown.

“Boston’s a tough town, dawg. You have to have some major cojones to be there,” Garnett said. “You got to want that. The people want it for you. That’s why Paul (Pierce) is perfect for it. Paul wants the shot every time. Like, ‘You’re 0-for-14.’ And he’s like, ‘I know, but they WANT it.’”

So I guess KG won't be getting an Xmas card from Kyrie this year? 

[GreenFaith1819]

Preach.

Kevin Garnett was quick to answer whether he was surprised Kyrie Irving left Boston.


“No,” he said flatly, before implying that Irving, the Nets point guard, didn’t have the mental makeup for Beantown.

“Boston’s a tough town, dawg. You have to have some major cojones to be there,” Garnett said. “You got to want that. The people want it for you. That’s why Paul (Pierce) is perfect for it. Paul wants the shot every time. Like, ‘You’re 0-for-14.’ And he’s like, ‘I know, but they WANT it.’”

Says the man that helped to steer AD away from BOS.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/12/23/kevin-garnett-believes-anthony-davis-lakers-happen/2403946002/

As I watch sports and grow older, I realize that there are less good guys AND bad guys....

They ALL - seemingly - blend in over time.

[gouki88]

Preach.

Kevin Garnett was quick to answer whether he was surprised Kyrie Irving left Boston.


“No,” he said flatly, before implying that Irving, the Nets point guard, didn’t have the mental makeup for Beantown.

“Boston’s a tough town, dawg. You have to have some major cojones to be there,” Garnett said. “You got to want that. The people want it for you. That’s why Paul (Pierce) is perfect for it. Paul wants the shot every time. Like, ‘You’re 0-for-14.’ And he’s like, ‘I know, but they WANT it.’”

Says the man that helped to steer AD away from BOS.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/12/23/kevin-garnett-believes-anthony-davis-lakers-happen/2403946002/

As I watch sports and grow older, I realize that there are less good guys AND bad guys....

They ALL - seemingly - blend in over time.

Everyone seems to whinge about KG steering AD to Boston, but maybe that's because KG doesn't think AD would stay here / fit into the culture?

[OldSchoolDude]

Is this guy done for good?  Are we about to see the broken down Derick Rose train pull up and take him for a ride down the bench?   Sure he looked great putting up 50 in a bunch of losses but then during his prolonged bizarro injury time the nets have been playing better and Spencer Dinwiddie has been killing it.   I do have ill feelings towards Kyrie because I do believe that while everyone had a part to play the buck stopped at Kyrie and that's how he wanted it, but he couldn't handle it.  I am glad the Nets are playing better without him and I sort of want his career to crash and burn much like Derick Rose.  He wanted to take on the Lebron role.  He wanted to be like Kobe and make his own name.  He wasn't a leader he was a moody little B and he had the three worst games of his career probably as far back as middle school, all in a row to loose us a series we began with a but whipping.  I am really glad things aren't going well for him right now.  So bashing aside do you think his injuries are about to ruin the rest of his career? 

[moiso]

No, but he's always been injury prone.

[Neurotic Guy]

Is this guy done for good?  Are we about to see the broken down Derick Rose train pull up and take him for a ride down the bench?   Sure he looked great putting up 50 in a bunch of losses but then during his prolonged bizarro injury time the nets have been playing better and Spencer Dinwiddie has been killing it.   I do have ill feelings towards Kyrie because I do believe that while everyone had a part to play the buck stopped at Kyrie and that's how he wanted it, but he couldn't handle it.  I am glad the Nets are playing better without him and I sort of want his career to crash and burn much like Derick Rose.  He wanted to take on the Lebron role.  He wanted to be like Kobe and make his own name.  He wasn't a leader he was a moody little B and he had the three worst games of his career probably as far back as middle school, all in a row to loose us a series we began with a but whipping.  I am really glad things aren't going well for him right now.  So bashing aside do you think his injuries are about to ruin the rest of his career?

I doubt he's anywhere near done, but who knows?  I'm really glad KI is gone, but I am more indifferent than anything else re: his future.  As long as he doesn't play well against the C's I'll be fine with whatever else he does.   Though unintended, Kyrie did the C's a huge favor by leaving.

[Ogaju]

Even sweet Abi Chen threw some shade at him during the Piston broadcast. That was funny. She was doing a piece on the Cs highest scorer on Christmas day games. She skipped his name intentionally. I thought it was funny.

[Moranis]

Preach.

Kevin Garnett was quick to answer whether he was surprised Kyrie Irving left Boston.


“No,” he said flatly, before implying that Irving, the Nets point guard, didn’t have the mental makeup for Beantown.

“Boston’s a tough town, dawg. You have to have some major cojones to be there,” Garnett said. “You got to want that. The people want it for you. That’s why Paul (Pierce) is perfect for it. Paul wants the shot every time. Like, ‘You’re 0-for-14.’ And he’s like, ‘I know, but they WANT it.’”

and Irving doesn't want to take every shot?

[Roy H.]

Preach.

Kevin Garnett was quick to answer whether he was surprised Kyrie Irving left Boston.


“No,” he said flatly, before implying that Irving, the Nets point guard, didn’t have the mental makeup for Beantown.

“Boston’s a tough town, dawg. You have to have some major cojones to be there,” Garnett said. “You got to want that. The people want it for you. That’s why Paul (Pierce) is perfect for it. Paul wants the shot every time. Like, ‘You’re 0-for-14.’ And he’s like, ‘I know, but they WANT it.’”

and Irving doesn't want to take every shot?

I think you are missing his point.  He was saying that the great thing about Boston is that they embrace their stars.  The Captain can be having a terrible night, but the fans want him to be taking that shot, because he’s the fans’ guy.  But, to become the guy, you need to prove yourself and humble yourself.

Kyrie wasn’t this city’s guy.  He didn’t embrace the city or what it meant to be a Celtic.  Then, he pulled a Lebron and quit against Milwaukee. 

[BASS_THUMPER]

LoL

I read this thread....I really read all 26 pages..

*sippin* of course

Dino Radja



Walker




Scalabrine



Paul Pierce




Never was afraid of being the one with seconds left to shoot the game winning shot...hit or miss

Kyrie could not carry the reason why we lose a game...

He was not a leader..not his fault

*sippin*

[ederson]

To for mentioning Dino Radja