Bradley Beal on the block. Should Celts make an offer?

[rondofan1255]

It's unrealistic, but cool that technically Smart (2019) + Rozier + Morris + Yabusele + Sac pick works. If Beal pulls a KyrieLeonardButlerGeorge, who knows...

Stars and scrubs for Banner #18...

[csfansince60s]

I just posted this idea in Jvalin's Porter/Morris twins reunite thread.

To Boston: Beal, Morris

To Wash: Hayward, Rozier

In a vacuum, I do that trade in less than a heartbeat.

In Beal you get the younger player (only 25, not 26 till June), deadlier scorer and the more confident player, which we need badly right now. He also rebounds ok for his position (4.7) and has about 4 assists per game.

Hayward is playing scared. Given his horrific injury, that's not being judgmental nor is it not understandable. Given the player Hayward is right now, heck even given that he gets back to 80-90% of his former self this year, you have to do that trade. Don't know if Wiz do it, but I'd do it.....in a vacuum.

We are not in a vacuum however. To trade Hayward right now, after we (Stevens, esp) wooed him to sign here, and he has a horrible injury, looks REAL REAL bad. To Stevens, to the other players on the team and to the NBA players who might choose/maneuver to play here.

Get the Morris twins tag-team back together here, get a potent scorer in Beal and the Wiz get a guard back in Rozier to start in place of Beal and a Hayward on the mend who might better fit their timetable and could be a healer for their damaged culture.

Again, doubt that Wiz do this, and even more doubtful that we do, given the Stevens/Hayward connection.

Too Bad.

Id love that trade, though.

[jambr380]

I just posted this idea in Jvalin's Porter/Morris twins reunite thread.

To Boston: Beal, Morris

To Wash: Hayward, Rozier

In a vacuum, I do that trade in less than a heartbeat.

In Beal you get the younger player (only 25, not 26 till June), deadlier scorer and the more confident player, which we need badly right now. He also rebounds ok for his position (4.7) and has about 4 assists per game.

Hayward is playing scared. Given his horrific injury, that's not being judgmental nor is it not understandable. Given the player Hayward is right now, heck even given that he gets back to 80-90% of his former self this year, you have to do that trade. Don't know if Wiz do it, but I'd do it.....in a vacuum.

We are not in a vacuum however. To trade Hayward right now, after we (Stevens, esp) wooed him to sign here, and he has a horrible injury, looks REAL REAL bad. To Stevens, to the other players on the team and to the NBA players who might choose/maneuver to play here.

Get the Morris twins tag-team back together here, get a potent scorer in Beal and the Wiz get a guard back in Rozier to start in place of Beal and a Hayward on the mend who might better fit their timetable and could be a healer for their damaged culture.

Again, doubt that Wiz do this, and even more doubtful that we do, given the Stevens/Hayward connection.

Too Bad.

Id love that trade, though.

Or I posted it yesterday morning on page 1 of this thread 

Hayward/Rozier for Beal/Morris. Include any non-Sac picks if required. The deal also works without Rozier and Morris, but I imagine Washington would like to clear the salary/attitude.

Hayward is clearly a stand-up guy, but if there is an opportunity to move him while still upgrading our roster, then I think we need to explore the opportunity.

And, I know, I know, no major FA will ever sign with us again if we trade Hayward. But, Ainge is old and our roster is young. If we put together a 6-8 year window of serious contention, then Ainge will retire and that stigma will be gone when we are searching for a new max FA.

With the current versions of Hayward and Horford taking up over $60M in salary, I don't see how we are going to seriously compete. We will need a LOT more from Hayward and for Horford to take a LOT less on his next contract.

But good to see I am not alone in this thinking!

[mef730]

I'm not a big fan of trading Smart anyway, but per trade machine, Cs can't trade him until Jan 15. Is Beal still going to be around then?

Mike

[csfansince60s]

I just posted this idea in Jvalin's Porter/Morris twins reunite thread.

To Boston: Beal, Morris

To Wash: Hayward, Rozier

In a vacuum, I do that trade in less than a heartbeat.

In Beal you get the younger player (only 25, not 26 till June), deadlier scorer and the more confident player, which we need badly right now. He also rebounds ok for his position (4.7) and has about 4 assists per game.

Hayward is playing scared. Given his horrific injury, that's not being judgmental nor is it not understandable. Given the player Hayward is right now, heck even given that he gets back to 80-90% of his former self this year, you have to do that trade. Don't know if Wiz do it, but I'd do it.....in a vacuum.

We are not in a vacuum however. To trade Hayward right now, after we (Stevens, esp) wooed him to sign here, and he has a horrible injury, looks REAL REAL bad. To Stevens, to the other players on the team and to the NBA players who might choose/maneuver to play here.

Get the Morris twins tag-team back together here, get a potent scorer in Beal and the Wiz get a guard back in Rozier to start in place of Beal and a Hayward on the mend who might better fit their timetable and could be a healer for their damaged culture.

Again, doubt that Wiz do this, and even more doubtful that we do, given the Stevens/Hayward connection.

Too Bad.

Id love that trade, though.

Or I posted it yesterday morning on page 1 of this thread 

Hayward/Rozier for Beal/Morris. Include any non-Sac picks if required. The deal also works without Rozier and Morris, but I imagine Washington would like to clear the salary/attitude.

Hayward is clearly a stand-up guy, but if there is an opportunity to move him while still upgrading our roster, then I think we need to explore the opportunity.

And, I know, I know, no major FA will ever sign with us again if we trade Hayward. But, Ainge is old and our roster is young. If we put together a 6-8 year window of serious contention, then Ainge will retire and that stigma will be gone when we are searching for a new max FA.

With the current versions of Hayward and Horford taking up over $60M in salary, I don't see how we are going to seriously compete. We will need a LOT more from Hayward and for Horford to take a LOT less on his next contract.

But good to see I am not alone in this thinking!

TP, jambr......great minds......

[Bobshot]

Beal can shoot the 3. That would please Stevens.

Ainge needs to get to work on this if he hasn't already.

I doubt Hayward is tradable at this point. He isn't playing anywhere near his salary yet. It's possible he's been brought along too quickly. The tipoff is playing back to back games. Leonard is being brought along more slowly.

I keep going back to Hayward as the focal point of their problems. Perhaps the team didn't take well to his starting so soon, and has tuned out Stevens for it. Perhaps the chemistry got upset. I don't know, but Stevens is under increasing pressure to get the team winning again.

[gouki88]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7134116

Looks more appealing by the second

[gpap]

I'd hold off on dealing Hayward. Tonight he wasn't the problem and actually played well. Tatum struggled on defense and though Jaylen Brown shows flashes of brilliance, he still far from a consistent, reliable player on both ends.

It could be Brown and Tatum that are the problem and are just too inexperienced for being on a championship caliber team.

Also we need more size and are getting KILLED on the glass.

Though Danny should be aggressive, I think more games need to be played to figure out who needs to stay and who needs to go.

[Bobshot]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7134116

Looks more appealing by the second

Howard has a better chance of going to Mars than getting traded to Boston. Beal, however, is not out of the question for a package. Doubt Smart would be in it.

[gouki88]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7134116

Looks more appealing by the second

Howard has a better chance of going to Mars than getting traded to Boston. Beal, however, is not out of the question for a package. Doubt Smart would be in it.

I don't know how salaries could work without Smart unless we moved Hayward, and I think that would be a dumb thing to do.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7134116

Looks more appealing by the second

Where do I sign up on this deal?

[gpap]

This would work as well

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9u4yr7d

[gouki88]

This would work as well

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9u4yr7d

That's a huge amount to give up.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7134116

Looks more appealing by the second

Where do I sign up on this deal?

Ikr!

[SparzWizard]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7134116

Looks more appealing by the second

You kno what. You right on the other thread. Ship them outta here. Smart and Rozier were frustratingly bad tonight. Brown's third year and so far he's looked inconsistent. Gimme Beal and Howard.

[Chris22]

Get Beal now.