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Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #585 on: August 10, 2016, 10:10:45 AM »

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LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford

Scorer, yes.  Rebounder, no.

Horford averages 0.5 reb more for their careers, 0.9 more per 36 career, and 0.3 less in the playoffs, but 0.7 more per 36 in the playoffs.  They're pretty much equal rebounding wise, with a slight edge to Horford.

Just interesting to me that scoring alone is worth that much to in (some/most/all) people's opinions.

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #586 on: August 10, 2016, 10:23:06 AM »

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LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford

Scorer, yes.  Rebounder, no.

Horford averages 0.5 reb more for their careers, 0.9 more per 36 career, and 0.3 less in the playoffs, but 0.7 more per 36 in the playoffs.  They're pretty much equal rebounding wise, with a slight edge to Horford.

Just interesting to me that scoring alone is worth that much to in (some/most/all) people's opinions.

LMA had poor rebounding numbers early in his career, but a lot of that had to do with playing with rebounding beasts (Oden, Przybilla, Camby). As soon as he was paired with Robin Lopez (a box out on the defensive glass guy who has always put up pedestrian defensive rebounding numbers) his rebounding soared.

Contrast with Horford who has always played with undersized combo forwards and has instead seen his rebounding decline. Early on his athleticism and motor gave him the edge in my book, but now that they're both entering their 30s, I think Aldridge's superior size, length and bulk make him the better rebounder.
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2016 CelticsBlog Draft: Chicago Bulls

Head Coach: Fred Hoiberg

Starters: Rubio, Danny Green, Durant, Markieff Morris, Capela
Bench: Sessions, Shumpert, G. Green, T. Booker, Frye
Deep Bench: CJ Watson, H. Thompson, P. Zipser, Papagiannis, Mejri

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #587 on: August 10, 2016, 10:30:21 AM »

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LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford

Scorer, yes.  Rebounder, no.

Horford averages 0.5 reb more for their careers, 0.9 more per 36 career, and 0.3 less in the playoffs, but 0.7 more per 36 in the playoffs.  They're pretty much equal rebounding wise, with a slight edge to Horford.

Just interesting to me that scoring alone is worth that much to in (some/most/all) people's opinions.
Over the length of their careers maybe Horford is better, but the last 3 years Aldridge has been better. Even ignoring offensive rebounds (which the Hawks don't really chase, so that effects Horford's numbers more than Aldridges) Aldridge collected 23.5% of available defensive rebounds while Horford only collected 19.8% of defensive rebounds.

Personally I'd rather have Horford on my team (both in the cb draft and in real life) than Aldridge, but I think Aldridge is a more marquee guy when discussing who has the best big 3.
DKC:  Rockets
CB Draft: Memphis Grizz
Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #588 on: August 10, 2016, 10:56:16 AM »

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I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I really like Saric pickup. He looks a great fit in that mix.

Aaron Gordon = defensive stopper and glue guy
Jabari Parker = scorer, midrange and isolation
Dario Saric = playmaking forward

That is a fun mix of the skills. I really like that trio.

I like A.Roberson as well. Another defensive stopper off the bench. Useful player. 

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #589 on: August 10, 2016, 10:58:47 AM »

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I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I really like Saric pickup. He looks a great fit in that mix.

Aaron Gordon = defensive stopper and glue guy
Jabari Parker = scorer, midrange and isolation
Dario Saric = playmaking forward

That is a fun mix of the skills. I really like that trio.

I like A.Roberson as well. Another defensive stopper off the bench. Useful player.
I think a big determining factor on my team success will be how well that trio shoots 3's. Jabari and Gordon both showed signs of being able to hit 3's in the second half of their respective seasons.
DKC:  Rockets
CB Draft: Memphis Grizz
Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #590 on: August 10, 2016, 11:23:43 AM »

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My Bulls regular rotation is pretty much set now (still a bit of room for situational subs/injury insurance, but not much):

Ricky Rubio / Ramon Sessions
Danny Green/ Iman Shumpert
Kevin Durant / Gerald Green
Markieff Morris / Trevor Booker
Clint Capela / Channing Frye

Initially was hoping for more of a Monta Ellis 6th man type to yin and yang with Rubio, but I'm warming up to the Sessions/Gerald scoring combo off the bench - going for the Lin/Lamb type dynamic that worked so well for Charlotte to start the year.

2016 CelticsBlog Draft: Chicago Bulls

Head Coach: Fred Hoiberg

Starters: Rubio, Danny Green, Durant, Markieff Morris, Capela
Bench: Sessions, Shumpert, G. Green, T. Booker, Frye
Deep Bench: CJ Watson, H. Thompson, P. Zipser, Papagiannis, Mejri

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #591 on: August 10, 2016, 12:04:20 PM »

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Orlando rotation pretty much set through 10 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F:  Mirza Teletovic /Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F:  Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills

I love my team, I think it's a great mix of talents and has plenty of opportunity for versatile lineups. I'd love some feedback though.
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SG: Michael Redd/ Dan Majerle/ Allan Houston
SF: Peja Stojakovic/ Gerald Wallace/ Toni Kukoc
PF: Shawn Kemp/ Antonio McDyess
C: Dwight Howard/ Tyson Chandler

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #592 on: August 10, 2016, 12:10:06 PM »

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Orlando rotation pretty much set through 10 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F:  Mirza Teletovic /Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F:  Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills

I love my team, I think it's a great mix of talents and has plenty of opportunity for versatile lineups. I'd love some feedback though.

I love your bench.

* Tyreke Evans is an excellent 6th man.
* Patty Mills, Terrence Ross and Tyreke is surely one of the best perimeter benches.
* Lot of size and muscle with Mahinmi, Kyle O'Quinn and Lavoy Allen.

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #593 on: August 10, 2016, 12:15:07 PM »

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The Jazz 10 man rotation should be all set here, the rest will just be filled up with reserves in case of injuries.

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston


I hope this squad makes it to my very first CB Draft Playoffs. 4th times the charm! 
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SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #594 on: August 10, 2016, 12:34:57 PM »

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I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I really like Saric pickup. He looks a great fit in that mix.

Aaron Gordon = defensive stopper and glue guy
Jabari Parker = scorer, midrange and isolation
Dario Saric = playmaking forward

That is a fun mix of the skills. I really like that trio.

I like A.Roberson as well. Another defensive stopper off the bench. Useful player.
I think a big determining factor on my team success will be how well that trio shoots 3's. Jabari and Gordon both showed signs of being able to hit 3's in the second half of their respective seasons.

The thing with Saric is that although he makes some great passes, he has been a turnover machine.  He contributes in a lot of ways, but after watching him play a lot, I am not as sold on him as I once was.
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Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #595 on: August 10, 2016, 12:36:11 PM »

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Starters:
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow
PF: Myles Turner
C: Steven Adams

Bench:
PG: Jeremy Lin
G/F: Brandon Ingram
F: Doug McDermott
F/C: Brandon Bass
SG/SF: Gerald Henderson
F: Josh McRoberts

Haven't gotten much feedback on this team outside of my co-GM AB posting a lovely writeup. I see this as a team that could make the playoffs this year in the mid-lower tier but also has one of the highest potentials with ETs team. The team can be molded to play many different styles successfully, and the inteligent players are great fits in GSs offense.

What do you guys think? I'll try and give some write-ups for other teams this afternoon.
CB Draft: Golden State Warriors - 14.23
PG: Bledsoe/Lin/ Harris
SG: Beal/ Henderson/ Ingram
SF: Winslow/McDermott/
PF: Turner/ Acy / Hernangomez
C: Adams/ Turner/ McRoberts
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Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #596 on: August 10, 2016, 12:38:07 PM »

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Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #597 on: August 10, 2016, 12:38:50 PM »

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Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
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Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #598 on: August 10, 2016, 01:02:10 PM »

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Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.
DKC:  Rockets
CB Draft: Memphis Grizz
Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19

Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
« Reply #599 on: August 10, 2016, 01:06:49 PM »

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Starters:
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow
PF: Myles Turner
C: Steven Adams

Bench:
PG: Jeremy Lin
G/F: Brandon Ingram
F: Doug McDermott
F/C: Brandon Bass
SG/SF: Gerald Henderson
F: Josh McRoberts

Haven't gotten much feedback on this team outside of my co-GM AB posting a lovely writeup. I see this as a team that could make the playoffs this year in the mid-lower tier but also has one of the highest potentials with ETs team. The team can be molded to play many different styles successfully, and the intelligent players are great fits in GSs offense.

What do you guys think? I'll try and give some write-ups for other teams this afternoon.
I really like this team, my only issue is that I prefer Turner at the 5 to the 4 and would worry about the spacing of a Winslow, Turner, Adams frontcourt since two of those guys aren't shooters.

I'm a fan of most of the players on your team. I really love bringing Ingram and McBuckets off the bench to provide an infusion of shooting. Thought McRoberts in the last round was an excellent pick. Although he wasn't great last year, when he was in Charlotte they ran a lot of offense through him and he was very important to that team.
DKC:  Rockets
CB Draft: Memphis Grizz
Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19