Raptors (2-1) at Celtics (1-2) Game #4 11/5/14

[86MaxwellSmart]

REFS are Point Shaving----this is reediculous...between that and Evan TURNOVER (like 6-?)....Awful.

4 turnovers in just 8 minutes. Basically every other time he's touched the ball he's given it away.

4 Officially---but I counted 6.

[KeepRondo]

REFS are Point Shaving----this is reediculous...between that and Evan TURNOVER (like 6-?)....Awful.

4 turnovers in just 8 minutes. Basically every other time he's touched the ball he's given it away.

feels like he has more then 4. Maybe they gave the others wrongly to the guys he threw terrible passes to.

[beklog]

Just a while ago I was telling my friend that Cs always have an instant offence from the bench, from Barbosa, Crawfish now Turner... should have told him Instant TO instead

[86MaxwellSmart]

That Opie Cunningham Ref Sucks badly...made many bad calls against us.

[KeepRondo]

Just a while ago I was telling my friend that Cs always have an instant offence from the bench, from Barbosa, Crawfish now Turner... should have told him Instant TO instead

yep. I think our starters are better then we thought and our bench is worse then we thought going into season. At least I thought this

[Neurotic Guy]

Olynyk's looked tentative at times but he's also flirting with a double-double in the first half.  It's getting a little silly.

Turner, on the other hand, is really playing poorly.

YES!   You are exemplifying good posting. NBA players (especially non-stars) make good and bad plays.  Need to look at more than a play, rotation, a quarter, a game.  Guys will stink it up from time to time (Rondo will; Sully will; Green will).  Works in progress like KO, ET, AB, etc. need to be assessed over time, not play by play or game by game.  That is, it's fine to critique a play or a game; it's fine to say guy had a bad play, quarter, game.  But they don't "suck" because of a bad game or even a bad first 4 games.

[KeepRondo]

Olynyk's looked tentative at times but he's also flirting with a double-double in the first half.  It's getting a little silly.

Turner, on the other hand, is really playing poorly.

YES!   You are exemplifying good posting. NBA players (especially non-stars) make good and bad plays.  Need to look at more than a play, rotation, a quarter, a game.  Guys will stink it up from time to time (Rondo will; Sully will; Green will).  Works in progress like KO, ET, AB, etc. need to be assessed over time, not play by play or game by game.  That is, it's fine to critique a play or a game; it's fine to say guy had a bad play, quarter, game.  But they don't "suck" because of a bad game or even a bad first 4 games.

KO's been bad for a while. Tell me when he's never been awkward and clumsy on D.

[fairweatherfan]

I'm a big fan of "Evan Turnover" BTW.  Think that one might stick.

[Neurotic Guy]

Olynyk's looked tentative at times but he's also flirting with a double-double in the first half.  It's getting a little silly.

Turner, on the other hand, is really playing poorly.

YES!   You are exemplifying good posting. NBA players (especially non-stars) make good and bad plays.  Need to look at more than a play, rotation, a quarter, a game.  Guys will stink it up from time to time (Rondo will; Sully will; Green will).  Works in progress like KO, ET, AB, etc. need to be assessed over time, not play by play or game by game.  That is, it's fine to critique a play or a game; it's fine to say guy had a bad play, quarter, game.  But they don't "suck" because of a bad game or even a bad first 4 games.

KO's been bad for a while. Tell me when he's never been awkward and clumsy on D.

You are entitled to your point of view, no question about that.  But, I see him as a 2nd year player who is a work in progress and who is consistently getting pretty good +/- numbers compared with his teammates.  I think he is awkward at times on both ends; but I definitely think the jury is still out on him. 

[KeepRondo]

Great game goin on for Sully

[Neurotic Guy]

Love that Sully is really picking up the garbage tonight.   14/8 already,

And KO 10/9.

[esel1000]

That's what happens when you don't hesitate KO!

[jpotter33]

It's like clockwork. Every time Kelly doesn't hesitate he makes it.

[fairweatherfan]

That's what happens when you don't hesitate KO!

Looks like Stevens and/or his teammates might've had a chat with him about that at the half.

[KeepRondo]

Olynyk's looked tentative at times but he's also flirting with a double-double in the first half.  It's getting a little silly.

Turner, on the other hand, is really playing poorly.

YES!   You are exemplifying good posting. NBA players (especially non-stars) make good and bad plays.  Need to look at more than a play, rotation, a quarter, a game.  Guys will stink it up from time to time (Rondo will; Sully will; Green will).  Works in progress like KO, ET, AB, etc. need to be assessed over time, not play by play or game by game.  That is, it's fine to critique a play or a game; it's fine to say guy had a bad play, quarter, game.  But they don't "suck" because of a bad game or even a bad first 4 games.

KO's been bad for a while. Tell me when he's never been awkward and clumsy on D.

You are entitled to your point of view, no question about that.  But, I see him as a 2nd year player who is a work in progress and who is consistently getting pretty good +/- numbers compared with his teammates.  I think he is awkward at times on both ends; but I definitely think the jury is still out on him.

I see some potential but I think he should earn his mins. Not kill us on D every night cause he's playin too much