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Title: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 01, 2010, 11:02:57 AM
Anybody else watch the premiere on AMC last night?  I'd heard good things about the comic series, and I always like a good zombie story, so I checked it out.

Very, very well made for a TV series - it felt more like I was watching a movie.  I can't believe how graphic the violence was.  Seems like an interesting story too.  Definitely made my DVR "record series" list.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 01, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
I'm a fan of the comic, slowly catching up in that. The series looks very good so far. As it goes on I'm curious how they'll handle a lot of the things in the comic, not the sort of stuff that even cable TV would put on.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 01, 2010, 11:07:31 AM
I loved it...caught a pre-air. Hopefully someone leaks episode 2 also.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 01, 2010, 11:33:14 AM
I absolutely loved it. 

Its actually a thinking man's zombie show.  Great concept.  Its set up as a series recording on my DVR now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: democritic on November 01, 2010, 12:43:10 PM
I loved it, but with Kirkman producing, I knew that I would. I highly, highly, highly recommend the comic to anyone who likes the show. I'm not a big comic guy, but the Walking Dead is a brilliant, original take on the zombie story. It's real and gritty in a way that a movie can never be, and a TV series is the medium other than comic that will still tell the story perfectly.

AMC does great stuff and the contest website crashed, so it looks like it's getting the viewership you'd hope for. Sounds like they're already planning for season two. With the comic soon to be knocking on 100 issues and still impressing, the TV series should stay fresh for what is hopefully a very long run.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 01, 2010, 12:54:05 PM
After seeing Darabont's treatment of The Mist (underrated horror movie, imo), I'm pretty sure he'll be able to handle whatever horrible bleakness is coming up.

Question for the comic readers - will reading the comics spoil the series for me?  From what I've heard it's a pretty close adaptation.  I feel like I'd like to go into the TV series blind if possible.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 01, 2010, 01:17:39 PM
After seeing Darabont's treatment of The Mist (underrated horror movie, imo), I'm pretty sure he'll be able to handle whatever horrible bleakness is coming up.

Question for the comic readers - will reading the comics spoil the series for me?  From what I've heard it's a pretty close adaptation.  I feel like I'd like to go into the TV series blind if possible.
Yes it will spoil you, the pilot was largely the same as the first issue. I imagine it will divert more and more as the series continues but if you must avoid spoilers I'd stay away from the comic.

That'd be a shame though, the comic's are excellent and well worth reading.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Prof. Clutch on November 01, 2010, 01:46:50 PM
I had been anticipating the premier for a long time now and I didn't feel disappointed.  With all the good shows Sunday has become a great day to watch television again!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 01, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
I had been anticipating the premier for a long time now and I didn't feel disappointed.  With all the good shows Sunday has become a great day to watch television again!

What else are you watching? I'd been glued to Trueblood, Entourage, and The Glades...I fell off Madmen, but not intentionally.

But now there is just this and Adultswim's lineup of Venture Bros and Children's hospital.

I guess I should get back into Boardwalk Empire. I pay for HBO, might as well use it.

Oh, and Dexter. I watch Dexter too.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: democritic on November 01, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
Question for the comic readers - will reading the comics spoil the series for me?  From what I've heard it's a pretty close adaptation.  I feel like I'd like to go into the TV series blind if possible.

Spoil isn't the right word to use. Having read the comic, I am just as excited for the series as I would have been otherwise. So I don't think it will be detrimental to the experience. Episode one didn't change much, and the few changes I saw, I loved. However, I have heard that some key things might get changed.

If you really want to go in cold (which I often do and respect the choice), maybe watch the season and see how it goes. Then when you're going to have to undergo the months between seasons, pick up the comic book. By then I'm sure the plot will have diverged a bit.

And while I have a lot of faith in the show from what I've seen, if you feel like it's going downhill, pick up the comic because it certainly doesn't.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: LB3533 on November 01, 2010, 05:06:22 PM
Great new show.

Well produced and the cast, so far, are pretty good.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: housecall on November 01, 2010, 05:08:15 PM
Opps i thought this was another JO thread,sorry.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on November 01, 2010, 05:09:54 PM
Opps i thought this was another JO thread,sorry.

Wow, well played.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 01, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
Opps i thought this was another JO thread,sorry.

Solid zing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 01, 2010, 05:58:55 PM
Opps i thought this was another JO thread,sorry.

That would've been "The Limping Dead".  :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Drucci on November 02, 2010, 06:58:19 AM
I've finally seen the first episode and I loved it.

As a big fan of the comics I was afraid the TV show would ruin it but my biggest concerns (bad acting and shortcuts) disappeared quickly while watching it. I like the format, long episodes (more than an hour) allow to develop the stories and take time to make it evolve. The actors are pretty good too.

The atmosphere is really well retranscripted, it's funny how the show is both extremely resemblant to the comics and yet different with additional scenes or modified storylines. I thought all the modifications were good since they were more suited for TV or simply more coherent in terms of the story development.

For example, the tank scene is not in the comics but it's just great, you can feel all the tension and horror surrounding Rick and how he barely saves his life.

It's also great to see that they have not turned it into a "basic" zombie show, like a zombie appears on screen suddenly and you're scared ; no, they've stayed true to the spirit of the series, which is not to scare but to make us think about the characters and their evolution in this crazy, dead world.

Plus the zombies are very well done, it's amazing it looks like a movie more than a TV show!

Finally, the music was discreet in this episode but I liked what I heard, sounds like the great Bear Mccreary (Battlestar Galactica) is back to work!

Can't wait to see the next episode although I know what will happen!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Birdbrain on November 02, 2010, 08:47:17 AM
Very cool.  The Dead Set series on IFC was very good as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Drucci on November 09, 2010, 08:58:53 AM
The 2nd episode was great too! The scenes where they are trying to escape the zombies are just awesome, full of tension and scary moments.

I liked that they went away from the comic on several storylines and added new characters, it's interesting to have a "tweaked" story.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 09, 2010, 09:13:28 AM
The only thing I haven't liked is how Shane and the redneck have been written to be over the top jerks. A bit ham handed, but that's a minor detail. The chopping scene, the atmosphere, and the casting has been spot on in my view.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 09, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
I liked the second episode as well - interesting to see that these are tool-using zombies, and it looks like they're climbers too. 

Looks like the two groups of survivors meet up next week...should be a very interesting episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 09, 2010, 10:19:45 AM
I liked the second episode as well - interesting to see that these are tool-using zombies, and it looks like they're climbers too. 

Looks like the two groups of survivors meet up next week...should be a very interesting episode.
I think tool using is a bit of stretch, given how well they can grasp people the tool using doesn't seem purposeful. The climbing looked similar, just one Zombie managed to get on top of a crowd of other zombies. He was blindly reaching up instead of gripping the ladder rungs.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 09, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
I liked the second episode as well - interesting to see that these are tool-using zombies, and it looks like they're climbers too. 

Looks like the two groups of survivors meet up next week...should be a very interesting episode.
I think tool using is a bit of stretch, given how well they can grasp people the tool using doesn't seem purposeful. The climbing looked similar, just one Zombie managed to get on top of a crowd of other zombies. He was blindly reaching up instead of gripping the ladder rungs.

I meant the walker that picked up a rock and was hitting the department store doors with it.  It's not like using a lever or something, but it was pretty purposeful by zombie standards. 

The guy's wife turning the doorknob and the girl picking up the doll in Ep 1 were also more directed behaviors than what zombies are usually capable of.  They're "smarter" than in most examples of the genre.

Only saw a split-second of the zombie climbing but you could be right - I was just surprised that they had it getting up the ladder at all.

EDIT:  Oh yeah, but a couple of zombies scaled a fence too.  They're definitely able to climb in at least some limited ways.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 09, 2010, 10:25:27 AM
After losing "Lost" last year, this show is rapidly becoming my new favorite on television.  It's got substance and is tense at times.  Solid television.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 09, 2010, 10:39:12 AM
BTW, another sign of the times: I was more shocked to hear the N-word in this week's episode than I was to see the first ep open with a little girl being shot in the head.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 04:13:36 PM
They've picked it up for a full 13 episode second season.

And recapping by twop.com!  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 10, 2010, 04:24:21 PM
I liked the second episode as well - interesting to see that these are tool-using zombies, and it looks like they're climbers too. 

Looks like the two groups of survivors meet up next week...should be a very interesting episode.
I think tool using is a bit of stretch, given how well they can grasp people the tool using doesn't seem purposeful. The climbing looked similar, just one Zombie managed to get on top of a crowd of other zombies. He was blindly reaching up instead of gripping the ladder rungs.

I meant the walker that picked up a rock and was hitting the department store doors with it.  It's not like using a lever or something, but it was pretty purposeful by zombie standards. 

The guy's wife turning the doorknob and the girl picking up the doll in Ep 1 were also more directed behaviors than what zombies are usually capable of.  They're "smarter" than in most examples of the genre.

Only saw a split-second of the zombie climbing but you could be right - I was just surprised that they had it getting up the ladder at all.

EDIT:  Oh yeah, but a couple of zombies scaled a fence too.  They're definitely able to climb in at least some limited ways.

I saw that doorknob part and thought to myself: "Clever Girl...."

But seriously, zombies knowing what a doorknob is for, or knowing to pickup the rock to smash the window..that is harbinger of some serious crap going down.

I never liked Resident Evil "Zombies" much, because I hated that some superzombies could like, use axes and stuff but most of them just shuffled around like Eddy Curry running a fast break.

Technically, according to Romero's original zombies..they couldn't even climb stairs.

Still to this day my favorite zombies are the "28 days" zombies. They run fast, they're not smart, and they die eventually, and there is nothing supernatural about them. They're just wicked mad and hungry.

I bet dollars to doughnuts we'll have a "oh my god...they're communicating..they're learning!" episode before the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
In the original night of living dead doesn't a zombie use a rock to break into a car window?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 10, 2010, 04:33:52 PM
In the original night of living dead doesn't a zombie use a rock to break into a car window?

TBH I could never make it all the way through that movie. The stairs thing was from an interview I read like 10 years ago.

DOUBLE EDIT: It was all about finding the right balance of rigor mortis vs mobility.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 10, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
I saw that doorknob part and thought to myself: "Clever Girl...."

But seriously, zombies knowing what a doorknob is for, or knowing to pickup the rock to smash the window..that is harbinger of some serious crap going down.

I didn't see the doorknob so much as a conscious plan as a residual behavioral script.  She "knew" on an instinctive level that she'd been there before, and turning the knob was how to get in.  Kinda like the original Dawn of the Dead zombies being drawn to the mall - it's what they were used to doing.

In the original night of living dead doesn't a zombie use a rock to break into a car window?

Yup, and the little girl zombie stabs her mother to death with a knife.  The genre has mostly moved away from that kind of behavior since though.  I like it - it makes the zombies tougher foes without somehow being able to sprint on decomposing legs.  Although the zombies did seem to get faster from #1 to #2.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 10, 2010, 04:39:43 PM
In the original night of living dead doesn't a zombie use a rock to break into a car window?

TBH I could never make it all the way through that movie. The stairs thing was from an interview I read like 10 years ago.

Have you never seen the ending?  One of the underrated horror film endings in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 10, 2010, 04:39:53 PM
In the original night of living dead doesn't a zombie use a rock to break into a car window?

TBH I could never make it all the way through that movie. The stairs thing was from an interview I read like 10 years ago.

DOUBLE EDIT: It was all about finding the right balance of rigor mortis vs mobility.

Oh come on!  Go watch it.  It's a peach!

I'm a bigger fan of the original Dawn of the Dead (though the opening credits of the remake is pretty awesome).

Is AMC on regular cable?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
AMC is indeed regular cable.

The zombies definitely moved pretty fast in the second episode. From the comics and so far the series it seems that Zombies don't go all that fast individually but as a pack they can get themselves going pretty fast.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 10, 2010, 04:43:32 PM
AMC is indeed regular cable.

The zombies definitely moved pretty fast in the second episode. From the comics and so far the series it seems that Zombies don't go all that fast individually but as a pack they can get themselves going pretty fast.

They did refer to the whole "pack" thing. I wonder what role that's going to play.

I think they stole that from Mass Effect. Cheaters.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 10, 2010, 04:43:46 PM
AMC is indeed regular cable.

The zombies definitely moved pretty fast in the second episode. From the comics and so far the series it seems that Zombies don't go all that fast individually but as a pack they can get themselves going pretty fast.

fast Zombies are all the rage apparently.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
AMC is indeed regular cable.

The zombies definitely moved pretty fast in the second episode. From the comics and so far the series it seems that Zombies don't go all that fast individually but as a pack they can get themselves going pretty fast.

fast Zombies are all the rage apparently.


Eh zombies aren't all that fast for the most part in the comic at least.

Several times they have characters just go around with bats and shovels taking out zombies one at a time in a large area.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 10, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
AMC is indeed regular cable.

The zombies definitely moved pretty fast in the second episode. From the comics and so far the series it seems that Zombies don't go all that fast individually but as a pack they can get themselves going pretty fast.

  

fast Zombies are all the rage apparently.


Eh zombies aren't all that fast for the most part in the comic at least.

Several times they have characters just go around with bats and shovels taking out zombies one at a time in a large area.

Not specifically these ones I guess(since I haven't seen this show) but today's zombies definitely move quicker than the old fashioned ones.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 04:57:06 PM
AMC is indeed regular cable.

The zombies definitely moved pretty fast in the second episode. From the comics and so far the series it seems that Zombies don't go all that fast individually but as a pack they can get themselves going pretty fast.

  

fast Zombies are all the rage apparently.


Eh zombies aren't all that fast for the most part in the comic at least.

Several times they have characters just go around with bats and shovels taking out zombies one at a time in a large area.

Not specifically these ones I guess(since I haven't seen this show) but today's zombies definitely move quicker than the old fashioned ones.
Oh yeah definitely. I was put off by the Dawn of the Dead remake where the zombies are all olympic sprinters.

I like slower zombies for the most part, more tension. (I love the Dead Rising games for example all slow zombies there!)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: CbrewEra on November 10, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
I enjoy the fact that they don't move very fast, it makes a lot more sense considering how dopey they appear.  It seems as if they are ridiculous athletes in other movies such as Dawn of the Dead
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on November 10, 2010, 06:01:51 PM
I'm enjoying it but with the understanding that once they meet "The Mayor" the show will get too weird for me ( as the coomics did) and I'll stop watching.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on November 10, 2010, 06:32:23 PM
I caught this show on On Demand and I plan on watching regularly for at least a little while. It's a slow at times, but the concept is neat and there's so many different directions the writers can go with it that I'm intrigued.

Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

I could just be nitpicking, but I view those as holes or flaws in the writing. So while I'm still going to watch, I have high hopes low expectations going forward.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 10, 2010, 06:39:19 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on November 10, 2010, 07:15:55 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.

We've seen rocks picked up and smashed through windows, teddie bears to be carried around (for some unknown reason) and knobs turned in attempt to open a door. So I don't think a gurney in front of the hospital room door was enough to stop this type of zombie.

They didn't *have* to "blow their spot up"  and help him. They could have let him die, laid low and then got out of there eventually. They chose to give up their spot and help him out. She was against it, so she holds a gun in his face? Even stranger, five minutes later with zombies all around her banging on windows, she's grabbing dolphin necklaces for her sister and is completely unfazed? It just seemed a little unnatural to me.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.

We've seen rocks picked up and smashed through windows, teddie bears to be carried around (for some unknown reason) and knobs turned in attempt to open a door. So I don't think a gurney in front of the hospital room door was enough to stop this type of zombie.

They didn't *have* to "blow their spot up"  and help him. They could have let him die, laid low and then got out of there eventually. They chose to give up their spot and help him out. She was against it, so she holds a gun in his face? Even stranger, five minutes later with zombies all around her banging on windows, she's grabbing dolphin necklaces for her sister and is completely unfazed? It just seemed a little unnatural to me.
If he wasn't making noise and there was an obstacle in its way why would a zombie bother to go into the room? It appears as if the hospital was mostly zombie free until the last of the staff bugged out, they had the zombies contained effectively after all.

Also his gunshots had attracted all the walkers to surround their location, this all happened before they helped him. His escape from the tank didn't cause the zombies to spot them, the damage was already done when he rode in on his horse and shot up a bunch of zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 10, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.

We've seen rocks picked up and smashed through windows, teddie bears to be carried around (for some unknown reason) and knobs turned in attempt to open a door. So I don't think a gurney in front of the hospital room door was enough to stop this type of zombie.

They didn't *have* to "blow their spot up"  and help him. They could have let him die, laid low and then got out of there eventually. They chose to give up their spot and help him out. She was against it, so she holds a gun in his face? Even stranger, five minutes later with zombies all around her banging on windows, she's grabbing dolphin necklaces for her sister and is completely unfazed? It just seemed a little unnatural to me.

Sheriff was in a coma.  He wasn't making any sound at all.  Part of the whole thing is that the zombies are attracted to sounds like car alarms and gunshots.  If the Sheriff was behind the door in a room making no sound, the zombies wouldn't have known there was a human in there.  Hence, its completely feasible that they would've never got to him.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on November 10, 2010, 07:39:37 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.

We've seen rocks picked up and smashed through windows, teddie bears to be carried around (for some unknown reason) and knobs turned in attempt to open a door. So I don't think a gurney in front of the hospital room door was enough to stop this type of zombie.

They didn't *have* to "blow their spot up"  and help him. They could have let him die, laid low and then got out of there eventually. They chose to give up their spot and help him out. She was against it, so she holds a gun in his face? Even stranger, five minutes later with zombies all around her banging on windows, she's grabbing dolphin necklaces for her sister and is completely unfazed? It just seemed a little unnatural to me.
If he wasn't making noise and there was an obstacle in its way why would a zombie bother to go into the room? It appears as if the hospital was mostly zombie free until the last of the staff bugged out, they had the zombies contained effectively after all.

Also his gunshots had attracted all the walkers to surround their location, this all happened before they helped him. His escape from the tank didn't cause the zombies to spot them, the damage was already done when he rode in on his horse and shot up a bunch of zombies.

So the people in the department store were also making noise? If they weren't making noise and there were obstacles, why would all these zombies surround the department store if they hadn't elected to save him?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 10, 2010, 07:42:47 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.

We've seen rocks picked up and smashed through windows, teddie bears to be carried around (for some unknown reason) and knobs turned in attempt to open a door. So I don't think a gurney in front of the hospital room door was enough to stop this type of zombie.

They didn't *have* to "blow their spot up"  and help him. They could have let him die, laid low and then got out of there eventually. They chose to give up their spot and help him out. She was against it, so she holds a gun in his face? Even stranger, five minutes later with zombies all around her banging on windows, she's grabbing dolphin necklaces for her sister and is completely unfazed? It just seemed a little unnatural to me.
If he wasn't making noise and there was an obstacle in its way why would a zombie bother to go into the room? It appears as if the hospital was mostly zombie free until the last of the staff bugged out, they had the zombies contained effectively after all.

Also his gunshots had attracted all the walkers to surround their location, this all happened before they helped him. His escape from the tank didn't cause the zombies to spot them, the damage was already done when he rode in on his horse and shot up a bunch of zombies.

So the people in the department store were also making noise? If they weren't making noise and there were obstacles, why would all these zombies surround the department store if they hadn't elected to save him?

By my recollection, there weren't zombies surrounding the department store before the Sheriff made his dash (while firing gunshots) from the tank to the building complex that included the department store.  He went up stairs and downstairs with that kid but remained in the relative vicinity of where he started his climb up the fire escape.  It also didn't help matters that the racist on the roof starting firing off rounds which would do more to attract the zombies. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on November 10, 2010, 09:38:54 PM

Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?


The hospital staff had trapped all the walking zombies behind a door and marked it "Do not open, dead inside". It seems like the hospital staff peaced after they trapped the zombies (Hint: if they follow the comics at all, you'll see this a few more times) and left a warnign for any of their patients/ potential looters.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: shookones99 on November 10, 2010, 09:46:03 PM
Eh, I've got mixed feelings on the show.  

I was entertained by the first 2 episodes and will continue to watch.  Overall I liked the atmosphere of the show as well as the actors.

But to be honest I was kind of blown away by how uncreative it is. I mean seriously, the zombies look and act the exact same way that every other zombie has in every other zombie movie.  And you wanna guess how you become a zombie?  You get bit!  Big surprise right?  And you wanna guess what happens after you get bit?  You die.....but then... you come back--just not quite the same.    ::)

I read earlier in the thread that it is based on a comic (didn't know that) so I guess the writers have to stay true to that.  

But anyway, I will probably continue to enjoy it, as I've enjoyed pretty much anything zombie related (28 days later--one of my alltime favs).  But I just had to get that off my chest.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 10, 2010, 10:03:31 PM
Couple problems I had with it:

- The Sheriff wakes up in a hospital that was at one point taken over by zombies (evident by the eaten woman on the hospital floor) yet he remains nice and cozy in his hospital bed passed out? Shouldn't a zombie have opened the door to scope the situation, seen some dude sleeping and chewed into him?

They showed that a gurney was pushed up against his door, and being in a coma, he wouldn't be making any noise.  It makes sense that they wouldn't find him.  How he stayed alive so long is a tougher question though.

- After the Sheriff leaves the tank surrounded by zombies, he joins a group of other people and immediately gets a gun pointed in his face by the woman with blond hair. Isn't the anger misdirected here? Shouldn't she be upset with the other people who elected to contact him and help him out? It came off as odd and non realistic to me. I hope there's an explanation for her behavior in later episodes, like she's schizophrenic or something.

He was the one firing the gun and she didn't know him.  Panicked people who have gone through a month of hell on earth aren't going to be thinking rationally.  I can't imagine most people would react differently - maybe they wouldn't point the piece, but they'd definitely blame him for it.

We've seen rocks picked up and smashed through windows, teddie bears to be carried around (for some unknown reason) and knobs turned in attempt to open a door. So I don't think a gurney in front of the hospital room door was enough to stop this type of zombie.

They didn't *have* to "blow their spot up"  and help him. They could have let him die, laid low and then got out of there eventually. They chose to give up their spot and help him out. She was against it, so she holds a gun in his face? Even stranger, five minutes later with zombies all around her banging on windows, she's grabbing dolphin necklaces for her sister and is completely unfazed? It just seemed a little unnatural to me.
If he wasn't making noise and there was an obstacle in its way why would a zombie bother to go into the room? It appears as if the hospital was mostly zombie free until the last of the staff bugged out, they had the zombies contained effectively after all.

Also his gunshots had attracted all the walkers to surround their location, this all happened before they helped him. His escape from the tank didn't cause the zombies to spot them, the damage was already done when he rode in on his horse and shot up a bunch of zombies.

So the people in the department store were also making noise? If they weren't making noise and there were obstacles, why would all these zombies surround the department store if they hadn't elected to save him?
Because after they'd munched on the sheriff they'd just be wandering around the area aimlessly, but not going very far. Zombies don't disperse quickly in this world unless they're drawn by some noise or other stimuli.

So they might not have been under siege as much, but there would still be enough active zombies that'd it be incredibly difficult to just sneak out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on November 10, 2010, 10:32:57 PM


But to be honest I was kind of blown away by how uncreative it is. I mean seriously, the zombies look and act the exact same way that every other zombie has in every other zombie movie.  And you wanna guess how you become a zombie?  You get bit!  Big surprise right?  And you wanna guess what happens after you get bit?  You die.....but then... you come back--just not quite the same.    ::)

I read earlier in the thread that it is based on a comic (didn't know that) so I guess the writers have to stay true to that.  


If they stay true to the comic, then you'll get a broader understanding about how people turn into zombies. IT's not as simple as you make it out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on November 11, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
I loved the first episode, I haven't seen the second.

I like the typical AMC slow pacing and focus on characters.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on November 11, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
Eh, I've got mixed feelings on the show.  

I was entertained by the first 2 episodes and will continue to watch.  Overall I liked the atmosphere of the show as well as the actors.

But to be honest I was kind of blown away by how uncreative it is. I mean seriously, the zombies look and act the exact same way that every other zombie has in every other zombie movie.  And you wanna guess how you become a zombie?  You get bit!  Big surprise right?  And you wanna guess what happens after you get bit?  You die.....but then... you come back--just not quite the same.    ::)

I read earlier in the thread that it is based on a comic (didn't know that) so I guess the writers have to stay true to that.  

But anyway, I will probably continue to enjoy it, as I've enjoyed pretty much anything zombie related (28 days later--one of my alltime favs).  But I just had to get that off my chest.
Maybe you need patience to have your questions answered, just as the characters themselves wait for answers.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
I like the typical AMC slow pacing and focus on characters.
Perfect source material for that approach too.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: democritic on November 11, 2010, 02:03:05 PM
Eh, I've got mixed feelings on the show.  

I was entertained by the first 2 episodes and will continue to watch.  Overall I liked the atmosphere of the show as well as the actors.

But to be honest I was kind of blown away by how uncreative it is. I mean seriously, the zombies look and act the exact same way that every other zombie has in every other zombie movie.  And you wanna guess how you become a zombie?  You get bit!  Big surprise right?  And you wanna guess what happens after you get bit?  You die.....but then... you come back--just not quite the same.    ::)

I read earlier in the thread that it is based on a comic (didn't know that) so I guess the writers have to stay true to that.  

But anyway, I will probably continue to enjoy it, as I've enjoyed pretty much anything zombie related (28 days later--one of my alltime favs).  But I just had to get that off my chest.

If the show is going to be anything like the comic, which it has so far, it is not a TV show about zombies. It's about living people.

I'm not sure if I agree that a zombie story needs to make zombies different to be creative. Zombies are zombies are zombies. You can change the rules around zombies but a story isn't going to be any good if its main theme is what zombies do. The Walking Dead is a zombie movie that doesn't end, which makes it different than anything you've seen before.

This will probably be the best TV show since Battlestar Galactica for many of the same reasons. It's about people under stress, having experienced trauma, trying to survive and coexist.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 11, 2010, 02:14:20 PM
If the show is going to be anything like the comic, which it has so far, it is not a TV show about zombies. It's about living people.

Maybe this has been covered explicitly in the comics, but I get the distinct impression that the title isn't referring to the zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2010, 02:18:38 PM
If the show is going to be anything like the comic, which it has so far, it is not a TV show about zombies. It's about living people.

Maybe this has been covered explicitly in the comics, but I get the distinct impression that the title isn't referring to the zombies.
Its explicitly stated at some point by Rick in the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 11, 2010, 02:31:43 PM
If the show is going to be anything like the comic, which it has so far, it is not a TV show about zombies. It's about living people.

Maybe this has been covered explicitly in the comics, but I get the distinct impression that the title isn't referring to the zombies.
Its explicitly stated at some point by Rick in the comics.

Nice.  Reminds me a lot of the end of I Am Legend (the book, the movie completely Hollywoods it and ignores the book's main idea)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2010, 02:37:42 PM
If the show is going to be anything like the comic, which it has so far, it is not a TV show about zombies. It's about living people.

Maybe this has been covered explicitly in the comics, but I get the distinct impression that the title isn't referring to the zombies.
Its explicitly stated at some point by Rick in the comics.

Nice.  Reminds me a lot of the end of I Am Legend (the book, the movie completely Hollywoods it and ignores the book's main idea)
That was one of the first horror novels I ever read. That and Vampire$.

Both were butchered by Hollywood.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Drucci on November 16, 2010, 04:42:23 AM
Episode 03 was a little boring in my opinion. I thought the first part was too long and didn't really develop the characters (I really find Lori dislikeable, much more than in the comics). I thought Merle's brother was too much like him, it's kind of caricatural.

Fortunately the 2nd part was much better, the building tensions within the group are really well retranscripted, especially with Ed and Shane. I liked the final twist at the end too, I'm guessing Merle will come back to make a huge mistake (him or his brother) and some members of the group won't be back to the camp.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 16, 2010, 05:07:45 AM
If the show is going to be anything like the comic, which it has so far, it is not a TV show about zombies. It's about living people.

Maybe this has been covered explicitly in the comics, but I get the distinct impression that the title isn't referring to the zombies.
Its explicitly stated at some point by Rick in the comics.

Nice.  Reminds me a lot of the end of I Am Legend (the book, the movie completely Hollywoods it and ignores the book's main idea)

You may already know, but the first film version of Matheson's novel was in 1964, and called "The Last Man On Earth" starring Vincent Price, the second version was in 1971 and starred Charlton Heston, (and included one of the first mixed racial love scenes), which was called "The Omega Man", (and was my favorite sci-fi film in the early 70's). There was also an unofficial fourth version released in 2007 called "I Am Omega" that I was not impressed with at all. I did enjoy "I Am Legend", but mostly because of Will Smith and the set production. Matheson's book trumped all the movies, however, as most books usually do, (for me, at least).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on November 22, 2010, 02:11:23 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 22, 2010, 02:34:49 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.

Can't believe I missed it! Does anyone know if it's on HULU (or similar)? I think they wait a week or two before they let you watch on AMC.com.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 22, 2010, 11:02:27 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.

Can't believe I missed it! Does anyone know if it's on HULU (or similar)? I think they wait a week or two before they let you watch on AMC.com.

I think the pilot is on hulu but nothing else is. 

This last episode started off interesting, started to lose me about halfway through with the seemingly pointless Mexican standoff (no pun intended), and then completely redeemed itself in the last 20 minutes or so when we saw what the gang had been doing, and then all hell broke loose at the camp.  My favorite episode since the pilot.

I'm curious to see if they address how the zombies got so close without setting off their can-and-string "alarm"...as quickly as they got there they might as well have teleported in.  Pretty stupid of them not to step up their security after they realized the zombies were getting closer to camp, but I'm glad we finally got to see the zombies chomping on some folks. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 22, 2010, 11:13:52 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.

Can't believe I missed it! Does anyone know if it's on HULU (or similar)? I think they wait a week or two before they let you watch on AMC.com.

I think the pilot is on hulu but nothing else is. 

This last episode started off interesting, started to lose me about halfway through with the seemingly pointless Mexican standoff (no pun intended), and then completely redeemed itself in the last 20 minutes or so when we saw what the gang had been doing, and then all hell broke loose at the camp.  My favorite episode since the pilot.

I'm curious to see if they address how the zombies got so close without setting off their can-and-string "alarm"...as quickly as they got there they might as well have teleported in.  Pretty stupid of them not to step up their security after they realized the zombies were getting closer to camp, but I'm glad we finally got to see the zombies chomping on some folks. 

Bleepin' Merle. I guarantee it was bleepin' Merle.

BTW, who else is really excited to Norman Reedus, better known as Murphy MacManus, playing a predominant role in which he is completely BA and not terrible? Aside from Rick, Daryl is my favorite character.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 22, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.
Well given they comic is ongoing  think they can easily get 4 seasons out of it.

Spoiler:
Supposedly the plan is for them to arrive at the prison around the end of season two of the TV show. So that means they probably would have a whole season dealing with the prison and the Governor and all the events that happen before they're forced to abandon it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 22, 2010, 11:23:42 AM
Bleepin' Merle. I guarantee it was bleepin' Merle.

Nah, seems unlikely - there were too many to fit in the van, and there was no barrier between the back area and the driver's seat.  And you can't really "herd" zombies in a specific direction, because they don't feel fear and will come right after you instead.  

Plus for all he knew his brother was still in camp - why send a horde of zombies in his direction?

BTW, who else is really excited to Norman Reedus, better known as Murphy MacManus, playing a predominant role in which he is completely BA and not terrible? Aside from Rick, Daryl is my favorite character.

I like Daryl a lot - he's not nearly as one-note as Merle and seems to be developing a little as a character too.  As much face time as he's getting he'll either be a major character for awhile or horribly murdered.  Or both.  


BTW, I saw this on another site - for pure comedy, check out the website of the actor who plays T-Dog.  Make sure speakers are on:

www.ironesingleton.com (http://www.ironesingleton.com)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 22, 2010, 11:27:27 AM
I think Merle is being set up as a long term antagonist down the road.

Spoilers:
The way he lost his hand seems to be a perfect setup for him to either be the Governor or be one of the Governor's men. It'd make a lot of sense to have Merle cut off Rick's hand and feed it to zombies rather than just some jerk they just met.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 22, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
I think Merle is being set up as a long term antagonist down the road.

Without reading your spoilers I agree...Michael Rooker is a pretty well-known character actor, so he'll be back one way or another.  Given that he's vanished without a trace it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't turn up for awhile.

I'm wondering if it was the fish fry that ultimately attracted the zombies - the camera focused on it a lot and they mentioned in Ep 2 that they're guided in part by sense of smell.  A large quantity of cooking meat could easily draw them if they were in the general area.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 22, 2010, 11:42:39 AM
The fish fry an all the noise they've been making could have contributed to the attack. Its also pretty likely that zombies are just starting to wander out of the city. The campsite is very close to the city as demonstrated by the rescue crew getting back without too long a hike.

I wonder if zombie migration can be modeled as brownian motion? (with a herd component)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 22, 2010, 11:59:10 AM
Bleepin' Merle. I guarantee it was bleepin' Merle.

Nah, seems unlikely - there were too many to fit in the van, and there was no barrier between the back area and the driver's seat.  And you can't really "herd" zombies in a specific direction, because they don't feel fear and will come right after you instead.  

Plus for all he knew his brother was still in camp - why send a horde of zombies in his direction?

Maybe he unwittingly led them back with the van?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on November 22, 2010, 01:03:22 PM
Bleepin' Merle. I guarantee it was bleepin' Merle.

Nah, seems unlikely - there were too many to fit in the van, and there was no barrier between the back area and the driver's seat.  And you can't really "herd" zombies in a specific direction, because they don't feel fear and will come right after you instead.  

Plus for all he knew his brother was still in camp - why send a horde of zombies in his direction?

BTW, who else is really excited to Norman Reedus, better known as Murphy MacManus, playing a predominant role in which he is completely BA and not terrible? Aside from Rick, Daryl is my favorite character.

I like Daryl a lot - he's not nearly as one-note as Merle and seems to be developing a little as a character too.  As much face time as he's getting he'll either be a major character for awhile or horribly murdered.  Or both.  


BTW, I saw this on another site - for pure comedy, check out the website of the actor who plays T-Dog.  Make sure speakers are on:

www.ironesingleton.com (http://www.ironesingleton.com)

Daryl seems like he will be around a while because is highly competent.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BballTim on November 22, 2010, 02:07:08 PM
Bleepin' Merle. I guarantee it was bleepin' Merle.

Nah, seems unlikely - there were too many to fit in the van, and there was no barrier between the back area and the driver's seat.  And you can't really "herd" zombies in a specific direction, because they don't feel fear and will come right after you instead.  

Plus for all he knew his brother was still in camp - why send a horde of zombies in his direction?

Maybe he unwittingly led them back with the van?


  Theoretically he could have just jogged back with the zombies following him, right?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 22, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
Bleepin' Merle. I guarantee it was bleepin' Merle.

Nah, seems unlikely - there were too many to fit in the van, and there was no barrier between the back area and the driver's seat.  And you can't really "herd" zombies in a specific direction, because they don't feel fear and will come right after you instead.  

Plus for all he knew his brother was still in camp - why send a horde of zombies in his direction?

Maybe he unwittingly led them back with the van?


  Theoretically he could have just jogged back with the zombies following him, right?

Maybe, but that means someone else took the van, and no one noticed the one-handed delusional loudmouth redneck being chased through the camp by zombies.  He'd have to have ditched them near the camp somehow but stayed hidden from both the survivors and zombies for the whole attack.

My guess is the two are unrelated - the camp was getting complacent and sloppy (no watch, drinking beer, multiple people away from camp alone) and this was the typical zombie world consequence.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: mahonedog88 on November 22, 2010, 03:02:59 PM
Yeah I'm not reading any of the spoilers, just cause I love this show.  This is like a movie that I don't want to end.  I know that this show is more about the humans than it is the zombies and I love that about it.  I think the storylines they have for the humans are awesome which makes all of the zombie killing an added awesome bonus.

I haven't read the comic or anything like that, so I'm just going on random thoughts, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Merle comes back at the very end of the season finale and thats how they keep us hanging for the second season.  I love his character.

The end scene of episode 2 where they zoom out showing him alone on the roof gave me chills, as did his acting job at the beginning of episode 3.  Unreal.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on November 22, 2010, 03:12:59 PM
Yeah I'm not reading any of the spoilers, just cause I love this show.  This is like a movie that I don't want to end.  I know that this show is more about the humans than it is the zombies and I love that about it.  I think the storylines they have for the humans are awesome which makes all of the zombie killing an added awesome bonus.

I haven't read the comic or anything like that, so I'm just going on random thoughts, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Merle comes back at the very end of the season finale and thats how they keep us hanging for the second season.  I love his character.

The end scene of episode 2 where they zoom out showing him alone on the roof gave me chills, as did his acting job at the beginning of episode 3.  Unreal.
Merle is a new character to the show, he's not in the comics

The spoilers are based on events of the comic, though it seems as they're keeping a lot of things the same some changes have occured. (new characters like Merle, Daryl)

I agree, that both characters have been well done. I didn't like Merle in episode two, a bit too over the top for me. But his acting since then has been excellent. Daryl has also been written in a solid manner. Hopefully they stick around in some fashion.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Drucci on November 22, 2010, 04:25:24 PM
Episode 4 was great. I didn't think of the fish smell attracting zombies but it does make sense. I also think Merle will come back in a future season, it wouldn't make sense to see him come back now.

The zombie attack scenes were very well done, a lot of tension and blood. I liked the twist about the Mexican guys, it adds an interesting "alternate" story to the comics.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 25, 2010, 02:02:24 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.

Can't believe I missed it! Does anyone know if it's on HULU (or similar)? I think they wait a week or two before they let you watch on AMC.com.

I think the pilot is on hulu but nothing else is.  

This last episode started off interesting, started to lose me about halfway through with the seemingly pointless Mexican standoff (no pun intended), and then completely redeemed itself in the last 20 minutes or so when we saw what the gang had been doing, and then all hell broke loose at the camp.  My favorite episode since the pilot.

I'm curious to see if they address how the zombies got so close without setting off their can-and-string "alarm"...as quickly as they got there they might as well have teleported in.  Pretty stupid of them not to step up their security after they realized the zombies were getting closer to camp, but I'm glad we finally got to see the zombies chomping on some folks.  

Thanks for the update, FWF (TP) ... the first couple of episodes are available on AMC.com, but not the fourth ... really unhappy about missing it. I'm sure after it's over all the episodes will be on HULU, etc. ... gonna watch the fifth and final, but I really wanted to see the fourth first. Oh, well.  :P
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on November 25, 2010, 02:27:37 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.

Can't believe I missed it! Does anyone know if it's on HULU (or similar)? I think they wait a week or two before they let you watch on AMC.com.

I think the pilot is on hulu but nothing else is.  

This last episode started off interesting, started to lose me about halfway through with the seemingly pointless Mexican standoff (no pun intended), and then completely redeemed itself in the last 20 minutes or so when we saw what the gang had been doing, and then all hell broke loose at the camp.  My favorite episode since the pilot.

I'm curious to see if they address how the zombies got so close without setting off their can-and-string "alarm"...as quickly as they got there they might as well have teleported in.  Pretty stupid of them not to step up their security after they realized the zombies were getting closer to camp, but I'm glad we finally got to see the zombies chomping on some folks.  

Thanks for the update, FWF (TP) ... the first couple of episodes are available on AMC.com, but not the fourth ... really unhappy about missing it. I'm sure after it's over all the episodes will be on HULU, etc. ... gonna watch the fifth and final, but I really wanted to see the fourth first. Oh, well.  :P
Does AMC post their series on Hulu? I have only seen series premieres of AMC shows on Hulu.

Do they replay the previous week before showing the new episode?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 25, 2010, 02:49:39 AM
I really enjoyed the 4th episode. I like how it spent most of the episode developing characters and then ended with a bang.

I wonder how many seasons they envisioned this running.

Can't believe I missed it! Does anyone know if it's on HULU (or similar)? I think they wait a week or two before they let you watch on AMC.com.

I think the pilot is on hulu but nothing else is. 

This last episode started off interesting, started to lose me about halfway through with the seemingly pointless Mexican standoff (no pun intended), and then completely redeemed itself in the last 20 minutes or so when we saw what the gang had been doing, and then all hell broke loose at the camp.  My favorite episode since the pilot.

I'm curious to see if they address how the zombies got so close without setting off their can-and-string "alarm"...as quickly as they got there they might as well have teleported in.  Pretty stupid of them not to step up their security after they realized the zombies were getting closer to camp, but I'm glad we finally got to see the zombies chomping on some folks. 

Thanks for the update, FWF (TP) ... the first couple of episodes are available on AMC.com, but not the fourth ... really unhappy about missing it. I'm sure after it's over all the episodes will be on HULU, etc. ... gonna watch the fifth and final, but I really wanted to see the fourth first. Oh, well.  :P
Does AMC post their series on Hulu? I have only seen series premieres of AMC shows on Hulu.

Do they replay the previous week before showing the new episode?

As far as I know, it's only the first episodes and various clips on HULU, and pretty much the same at AMC.com ... which is here: http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 28, 2010, 10:01:20 PM
WOO HOOO! Its Walking Dead time!! Its Walking Dead Time!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 28, 2010, 10:13:17 PM
It is remarkable the amount of gore they can show. They must have the FCC on speed-dial.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 28, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
It is remarkable the amount of gore they can show. They must have the FCC on speed-dial.

The FCC has drastically changed their requirements of late ... just watch shows like "Saving Grace" ... total rear nudity and near total frontal. That's why I don't watch many of the "new" shows.

What I got a kick of from this show, was when the guy on the roof cut his hand off with a hack-saw to get free ... if he had a hack-saw, why didn't he just cut the handcuffs?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 28, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
It is remarkable the amount of gore they can show. They must have the FCC on speed-dial.

The FCC has drastically changed their requirements of late ... just watch shows like "Saving Grace" ... total rear nudity and near frontal. That's why I don't watch many of the "new" shows.

What I got a kick of from this show, was when the guy on the roof cut his hand off with a hack-saw to get free ... if he had a hack-saw, why didn't he just cut the handcuffs?

They said "the saw must have been too dull to cut the cuffs" or something.

EDIT: But it is wild what the FCC is letting shows get away with now. On top of that though, check out some BBC shows like "Misfits"..they show borderline softcore stuff, swear profusely (and creatively..man I love english slang. I absolutely love it. I could listen to Nathan berate people all day long and not stop laughing)..I don't know how British television's system is  (BBC 1, 2 etc...), but it is nuts. Imagine PBS 4 airing "Trueblood" unedited.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 28, 2010, 10:33:50 PM
It is remarkable the amount of gore they can show. They must have the FCC on speed-dial.

The FCC has drastically changed their requirements of late ... just watch shows like "Saving Grace" ... total rear nudity and near frontal. That's why I don't watch many of the "new" shows.

What I got a kick of from this show, was when the guy on the roof cut his hand off with a hack-saw to get free ... if he had a hack-saw, why didn't he just cut the handcuffs?

They said "the saw must have been too dull to cut the cuffs" or something.

EDIT: But it is wild what the FCC is letting shows get away with now. On top of that though, check out some BBC shows like "Misfits"..they show borderline softcore stuff, swear profusely (and creatively..man I love english slang. I absolutely love it. I could listen to Nathan berate people all day long and not stop laughing)..I don't know how British television's system is  (BBC 1, 2 etc...), but it is nuts. Imagine PBS 4 airing "Trueblood" unedited.

Yeah, really. I love British slang, too ... like "wanker" and "tosspot" ... best thing is you can use it here and people don't know you're insulting them, lol. My infatuation with it began with Monty Python and some older shows like "The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin" and "Waiting For God" ... great stuff.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 29, 2010, 10:35:09 AM
Pretty good episode, though it looks like the slow pace is here to stay.  I wish they'd had a little more debate on leaving Jim out to die though; it was the humane thing to do but if he comes back and bites someone, the survivors have blood on their hands.  I'd've liked to see Daryl or someone else push back against leaving him there.

Looks like next episode they'll be spending a lot of time with Dr. Exposition.  Should be interesting.  But I'm really curious to see what winds up happening with the grenade Rick is still hanging on to.  Seems like it'll come in handy at some point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 01, 2010, 01:04:32 AM

I discovered where they get all those zombie extras from:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al2b-QJjISI&feature=related


 ;)

But seriously, can't wait for the final episode Sunday!

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: FallGuy on December 02, 2010, 01:51:39 AM
Pretty underwhelmed with this show: bland characters and glacial pacing being amongst the prime flaws.

Saw that Darabont fired his entire writing staff today. Not surprised - there was some bad stuff that made it to air.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 10:41:51 AM
Ok, so any guesses what Dr. Exposition whispered in Rick's ear?

I'm going with "There was a camera in the shower.  God bless you."
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 06, 2010, 10:48:18 AM
Ok, so any guesses what Dr. Exposition whispered in Rick's ear?

I'm going with "There was a camera in the shower.  God bless you."

As soon as I saw that I thought "Ugh. Now we're going to wonder what he whispered in his ear."
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on December 06, 2010, 10:58:24 AM
Ok, so any guesses what Dr. Exposition whispered in Rick's ear?

I'm going with "There was a camera in the shower.  God bless you."
I'm pretty confident its this:

Everyone is already infected, because in the comics everyone has the virus. Even if you die from a "normal" trauma you still reanimate.

Spoiler tagged because its a guess based on comic knowledge.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 11:06:38 AM
Ok, so any guesses what Dr. Exposition whispered in Rick's ear?

I'm going with "There was a camera in the shower.  God bless you."
I'm pretty confident its this:

Everyone is already infected, because in the comics everyone has the virus. Even if you die from a "normal" trauma you still reanimate.

Spoiler tagged because its a guess based on comic knowledge.

This is one popular theory.  The other is "Your wife is pregnant.  And it's mine.  Haha, seriously though it's probably your best friend's."

Would make sense since it would bring the Shane/Rick stuff to a head.  Also, the infection idea would have serious implications for the nature of the zombies, and the pregnancy would have serious implications for the characters' relationships.  I think the show has been pretty consistent as to which type of drama it prefers.

Oh well, just gotta wait til October to find out!  Despite its flaws I really enjoyed the season.  Hopefully with a bigger budget next season we'll see some really impressive set pieces.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Fafnir on December 06, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
Yeah pregnancy would be the other option. I didn't think of that, I officially switch my guess.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 06, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
She probably is pregnant.

I was unimpressed by the finale.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Birdbrain on December 06, 2010, 11:33:40 AM
Ok, so any guesses what Dr. Exposition whispered in Rick's ear?

I'm going with "There was a camera in the shower.  God bless you."
I'm pretty confident its this:

Everyone is already infected, because in the comics everyone has the virus. Even if you die from a "normal" trauma you still reanimate.

Spoiler tagged because its a guess based on comic knowledge.

Wow, makes sense though.  So it is a virus and not some act of God?  Because that type of explanation reminds me of Night of the Living Dead concept where the 'souls bucket' has been filled and no more souls can be taken.  I'm paraphrasing but, that's how I remember it being explained.

I have to say I was a bit disappointed in the season finale.  Too much personal drama not enough zombies.  I desperately wanted the blond lady to stay at CDC to remove her from the cast.  I also don't really care about cheating on his wife story.  She is more to blame.  Her husband was 'dead to her' for a mere 2 months at most and she's with his partner.  Fails logic but, that's just one of many logic failures which I guess is cool for Zombie flick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 11:55:54 AM
Wow, makes sense though.  So it is a virus and not some act of God?  Because that type of explanation reminds me of Night of the Living Dead concept where the 'souls bucket' has been filled and no more souls can be taken.  I'm paraphrasing but, that's how I remember it being explained.

In Night of the Living Dead, it's radiation from a probe sent to Venus that reanimates everybody.  The quote you're thinking of is "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" which is from Dawn of the Dead, but wasn't really meant to explain the cause of the zombies.

I was unimpressed by the finale.
I was pretty meh on most of the plot points - the ticking clock thing was pretty cheesy and didn't make much sense. I get that it's more about the characters, but the actual events all seem to be secondary to the point of meaning very little.  I hope they can find a better balance next season. 

I've been really impressed the last couple of episodes with how they've developed Shane's character though.  He's clearly a villain, but his motivations seem realistic and conflicted.  When he cornered Lori I found myself sympathizing with him right up until he tried to rape her.  That's a very tough line to walk and they're doing it well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Birdbrain on December 06, 2010, 12:00:51 PM
Wow, makes sense though.  So it is a virus and not some act of God?  Because that type of explanation reminds me of Night of the Living Dead concept where the 'souls bucket' has been filled and no more souls can be taken.  I'm paraphrasing but, that's how I remember it being explained.

In Night of the Living Dead, it's radiation from a probe sent to Venus that reanimates everybody.  The quote you're thinking of is "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" which is from Dawn of the Dead, but wasn't really meant to explain the cause of the zombies.

I was unimpressed by the finale.
I was pretty meh on most of the plot points - the ticking clock thing was pretty cheesy and didn't make much sense. I get that it's more about the characters, but the actual events all seem to be secondary to the point of meaning very little.  I hope they can find a better balance next season. 

I've been really impressed the last couple of episodes with how they've developed Shane's character though.  He's clearly a villain, but his motivations seem realistic and conflicted.  When he cornered Lori I found myself sympathizing with him right up until he tried to rape her.  That's a very tough line to walk and they're doing it well.

Thanks Dawn of the Dead but, I disagree with your premise and think it was stated that way to leave it up to the individuals interpretation. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on December 06, 2010, 12:03:22 PM
I loved the 6 episodes. I won't join the speculation because I am worried about spoilers from people already familiar with the story (assuming the TV series will be the same).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 12:12:40 PM
Wow, makes sense though.  So it is a virus and not some act of God?  Because that type of explanation reminds me of Night of the Living Dead concept where the 'souls bucket' has been filled and no more souls can be taken.  I'm paraphrasing but, that's how I remember it being explained.

In Night of the Living Dead, it's radiation from a probe sent to Venus that reanimates everybody.  The quote you're thinking of is "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" which is from Dawn of the Dead, but wasn't really meant to explain the cause of the zombies.

Thanks Dawn of the Dead but, I disagree with your premise and think it was stated that way to leave it up to the individuals interpretation. 

The movie said a returning space probe reanimated the dead so that people could make their own interpretations of what was reanimating the dead?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Birdbrain on December 06, 2010, 12:20:23 PM
Wow, makes sense though.  So it is a virus and not some act of God?  Because that type of explanation reminds me of Night of the Living Dead concept where the 'souls bucket' has been filled and no more souls can be taken.  I'm paraphrasing but, that's how I remember it being explained.

In Night of the Living Dead, it's radiation from a probe sent to Venus that reanimates everybody.  The quote you're thinking of is "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" which is from Dawn of the Dead, but wasn't really meant to explain the cause of the zombies.

Thanks Dawn of the Dead but, I disagree with your premise and think it was stated that way to leave it up to the individuals interpretation. 

The movie said a returning space probe reanimated the dead so that people could make their own interpretations of what was reanimating the dead?

The remake or the original?  I don't remember a space probe being mentioned in the remake.  If so I stand corrected. I haven't seen the original in a while and it was pretty bad in comparison.

It is Hollywood so the chances of it being anything more than a virus or space probe (??) are probably less than 1%. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on December 06, 2010, 12:49:47 PM
This was almost a good show. Something about it didn't get me over the hump. Honestly why hang around big cities at all? Get in your van and west get a map find some place you can live off the land. How long can the zombies last without any food anyways?

I'm not talking about small towns - I'm talking about big old open space rural areas. There crew is a bit small to survive for more than one generation - but there have to be other pockets of survivors, can zombies last 5 years without food?

My thought on what was whispered was something along the lines of the virus having multiple pathways - bite/scratcth infections progress rapidly - airborne exposure advances very slowly - maybe years.

But I like the "your wife is X months pregnant" where the date pretty much makes it not his.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 06, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
So here is what I don't really like about The Walking Dead..and this is going to take a while and come off as "internet fanboy female-doggy", because while I'm going to complain about the series..its not like I'm going to miss an episode next year. I enjoy the show. Now, to the complaining:

The biggest problem I have with the show isn't the hyper emotional dealings between survivors. The dialogue, acting..its all 'kinda good', but not great, but honestly that's not such a big deal to me. It is a show about zombies...I got 6 hours of it this year, when most times I only get 1.5 to 2 hours in a movie once a year. A serial about zombies is awesome, even if the dialogue sucks sometimes.

My biggest problem is the whole execution of 'the world'. Zombie movies (and any other kind of apocalypse/invasion) as a concept are cool because they take places and people that are familiar and safe and turn that environment into one that is dangerous, challenging, and new.

In creating this world, it is important at once to create one that is scary, that is lethal (to everyone besides the hero), but one that also has a clear "Way out". Any other ending (see the remake of Dawn of the Dead) is gimmicky.

Here are the premises, as I understand them..the problems with them that I have:
1) There was an outbreak of disease that turns people into Zombies. This is so far, completely unexplained.
-The problem I have with this, is that there isn't any kind of "It first started in Tulsa" or anything. At some point this just happened, and it has miraculously spread all over the world like a extinction level event. No attempt to explain any of this is made...I don't so much care about that, except they went to the freaking CDC. If you're going to ask anyone "where did it start? How did it spread??" and get a lil splash of backstory...well that's the place!

2) The infection spreads by exchange of body fluid, usually though bites, although it is implied direct blood infection is possible.
-No problems with this at all. SOP.

3) After infection, it takes an indeterminate amount of time fully 'turn someone'. If a live person is bitten, they go through a fever sickness before turning, with pretty unmistakable symptoms. If a person is infected than immediately dies (but not through brain injury), then re-animation can be pretty quick.
-See the next one

4) The entire world is infected, all attempts to help from the Government have failed, and apparently 99% of the people in the world are either dead or walking dead.
-This doesn't make any sense to me. These things are shuffling corpses, with zero intelligence. There are clear indicators for lots of those who eventually turned in the form of a fever (which after it was known what was going on..there would be time to neutralize them). I was thinking about this on my drive to work today, but if you wanted to escape them, the method is pretty easy: Go somewhere cold for a year. The winter exposure would freeze them..and after a year, most of the flesh would rot right off the bones of 90% of the walking dead. Bodies only last in the open for so long, you know?

And even if that wasn't an option and you had to 'fight them', there are a heck of a lot more bullets than there are people in the world. If Patrick Swayze can fight the russians as a teenager, I like to think that a fully trained navy seal with an assault rifle can hold off a few hundred zombies all by his lonesome. Plus, these things can barely open doors! I mean...what the heck!


Yes, I know. "Just buy the premise and enjoy the ride you nitpicking nerd." But, I love this stuff. Superheroes, Zombies, anything that takes our world and flips it on its head, esp with supernatural stuff involved. I have seen every episode of Trueblood (it is a little sad that is is becoming the new cool thing to make fun of...TBH, it is a little...gay, but I like that show. Hopefully they release a new twilight movie or something so people have something else to pick on), I've seen every epi of Supernatural..that's my genre..and the Walking Dead is a pioneer for me..I just wish their premises were better thought out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 01:12:42 PM
Wow, makes sense though.  So it is a virus and not some act of God?  Because that type of explanation reminds me of Night of the Living Dead concept where the 'souls bucket' has been filled and no more souls can be taken.  I'm paraphrasing but, that's how I remember it being explained.

In Night of the Living Dead, it's radiation from a probe sent to Venus that reanimates everybody.  The quote you're thinking of is "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" which is from Dawn of the Dead, but wasn't really meant to explain the cause of the zombies.

Thanks Dawn of the Dead but, I disagree with your premise and think it was stated that way to leave it up to the individuals interpretation. 

The movie said a returning space probe reanimated the dead so that people could make their own interpretations of what was reanimating the dead?

The remake or the original?  I don't remember a space probe being mentioned in the remake.  If so I stand corrected. I haven't seen the original in a while and it was pretty bad in comparison.

It is Hollywood so the chances of it being anything more than a virus or space probe (??) are probably less than 1%. 

Oh I gotcha.  I was confused by you talking about the Night of the Living Dead.  The original Dawn is a sequel to that and so it has the same cause.  The remake stands alone so it's never explained.  The "no more room in hell" line is in both.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on December 06, 2010, 02:21:34 PM
redacted - see post two up for the whole thing
Good write up I agree with most of your points, something just is not clicking in the show for me. I think the danger seems a bit phoney and the out seems to hard to get.

The world is very dangerous, but a bit too silly dangerous. I mean the zombies basically launched a sneak attack on all fronts on the camp, but cannot open a door. Some of their contact with zombies is absolutely comical. Atlanta is surrounded by suburbs, no matter how much looting there was - there would be relatively close, well supplied towns to go to, that are also not over run with zombies (especially since everyone went to ATL.) Also the zombies are attracted to smell and loud noises, maybe movement too - which are plausible given the virus taking over the host lower brain. But there are also easy ways to conceal smell and eliminate loud noises. They could trap live animals and set them up in the middle of town with some loud noises to draw in all the zombies, then blow up all the zombies that come in (or just have a zombie hunt.) Etc. But these guys decide to run around like mad men? Why are they looting off of ATL?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 06, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
redacted - see post two up for the whole thing
Good write up I agree with most of your points, something just is not clicking in the show for me. I think the danger seems a bit phoney and the out seems to hard to get.

The world is very dangerous, but a bit too silly dangerous. I mean the zombies basically launched a sneak attack on all fronts on the camp, but cannot open a door. Some of their contact with zombies is absolutely comical. Atlanta is surrounded by suburbs, no matter how much looting there was - there would be relatively close, well supplied towns to go to, that are also not over run with zombies (especially since everyone went to ATL.) Also the zombies are attracted to smell and loud noises, maybe movement too - which are plausible given the virus taking over the host lower brain. But there are also easy ways to conceal smell and eliminate loud noises. They could trap live animals and set them up in the middle of town with some loud noises to draw in all the zombies, then blow up all the zombies that come in (or just have a zombie hunt.) Etc. But these guys decide to run around like mad men? Why are they looting off of ATL?


Exactly..there are like..a million ways to problem solve for this..but they're apparently limited to one small part of Atlanta that doesn't have jack. And, in the woods there are ninja zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: dlpin on December 06, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
First, let me say that I agree with some of IndeedProceed's points. The zombie genre is sort of divided into two sorts of zombie stories: the dumb, slow moving zombie that takes years to overtake the world (see the Romero series) and the fast, ultra brutal zombies who take over places quickly. In this series we have the slow moving, dumb zombies take over everything in a matter of weeks, which is a bit unexplained.


But my main problem with the series so far has been the very shoddy writing. Previous plot points are completely ignored without a second thought. There are many such problems to recall them all here, but let me just point out a recent, and pretty egregious one in my opinion.

So we spent most of the 5th episode on the "CDC or fort benning" decision. Lots of heated exchanges and all that over it. And so they decide to go to the CDC. Only they get there and everything is deserted. No big deal, right? Just turn around and head for fort benning, right? Except that apparently they were low on gas and couldn't make it to fort benning anymore. So that was the major point of tension at the end of the fifth episode. Shane blames Rick for taking them there, condemning them and all that. Here's why this bothers me: if they almost ran out of gas driving to the cdc from their location at the outskirts of Atlanta (a distance that rick and others jogged in a previous episode), how were they even considering the much longer drive to fort benning to begin with? In other words, the writers wrote a pretty big plot hole just to drum up the drama for the "cdc or fort benning" decision, and later for the deserted cdc reveal.

Just like the whole "grenade" fiasco. So they spent the entire second episode looking for a way of producing a loud enough noise to draw the zombies away from that particular building they were in, and Rick had a grenade in his pocket? One he forgot about as he put his clothes in the laundry load?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 03:16:53 PM
redacted - see post two up for the whole thing
Good write up I agree with most of your points, something just is not clicking in the show for me. I think the danger seems a bit phoney and the out seems to hard to get.

The world is very dangerous, but a bit too silly dangerous. I mean the zombies basically launched a sneak attack on all fronts on the camp, but cannot open a door. Some of their contact with zombies is absolutely comical. Atlanta is surrounded by suburbs, no matter how much looting there was - there would be relatively close, well supplied towns to go to, that are also not over run with zombies (especially since everyone went to ATL.) Also the zombies are attracted to smell and loud noises, maybe movement too - which are plausible given the virus taking over the host lower brain. But there are also easy ways to conceal smell and eliminate loud noises. They could trap live animals and set them up in the middle of town with some loud noises to draw in all the zombies, then blow up all the zombies that come in (or just have a zombie hunt.) Etc. But these guys decide to run around like mad men? Why are they looting off of ATL?


Exactly..there are like..a million ways to problem solve for this..but they're apparently limited to one small part of Atlanta that doesn't have jack. And, in the woods there are ninja zombies.

My pet peeve is that survivors never use the most resource-efficient anti-zombie weapon: gravity.

Think about it - lure a bunch of zombies up to a roof of a building or mall or something.  Get a sheer drop between you and them; cross over to another building and remove the bridge maybe.  Or use a crane and dangle someone over a cliff as bait.  Watch them all fall trying to get to you.  The ones that weren't "killed" would be immobilized.  Repeat as necessary. 

I think part of the genre is accepting that even if the basic premise (zombies) is true, most of what happens afterward doesn't make much sense.  It's interesting to watch how the people react, but the scenario is just realistic enough that suspension of disbelief is hard to keep going.  And the longer you think about it, the tougher it gets.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 06, 2010, 03:27:17 PM
First, let me say that I agree with some of IndeedProceed's points. The zombie genre is sort of divided into two sorts of zombie stories: the dumb, slow moving zombie that takes years to overtake the world (see the Romero series) and the fast, ultra brutal zombies who take over places quickly. In this series we have the slow moving, dumb zombies take over everything in a matter of weeks, which is a bit unexplained.

I meant to address this. The 28 days later zombies (actually, they were just 'infected') could storm the camp quietly, they're fast. The I am Legend 'zompires' same thing..but Romero's zombies aren't that scary.

Quote
But my main problem with the series so far has been the very shoddy writing. Previous plot points are completely ignored without a second thought. There are many such problems to recall them all here, but let me just point out a recent, and pretty egregious one in my opinion.

So we spent most of the 5th episode on the "CDC or fort benning" decision. Lots of heated exchanges and all that over it. And so they decide to go to the CDC. Only they get there and everything is deserted. No big deal, right? Just turn around and head for fort benning, right? Except that apparently they were low on gas and couldn't make it to fort benning anymore. So that was the major point of tension at the end of the fifth episode. Shane blames Rick for taking them there, condemning them and all that. Here's why this bothers me: if they almost ran out of gas driving to the cdc from their location at the outskirts of Atlanta (a distance that rick and others jogged in a previous episode), how were they even considering the much longer drive to fort benning to begin with? In other words, the writers wrote a pretty big plot hole just to drum up the drama for the "cdc or fort benning" decision, and later for the deserted cdc reveal.

Just like the whole "grenade" fiasco. So they spent the entire second episode looking for a way of producing a loud enough noise to draw the zombies away from that particular building they were in, and Rick had a grenade in his pocket? One he forgot about as he put his clothes in the laundry load?

Yeah, and he never brought it up, or looked for it? Makes no sense. Worst Sheriff ever.

My pet peeve is that survivors never use the most resource-efficient anti-zombie weapon: gravity.

Think about it - lure a bunch of zombies up to a roof of a building or mall or something.  Get a sheer drop between you and them; cross over to another building and remove the bridge maybe.  Or use a crane and dangle someone over a cliff as bait.  Watch them all fall trying to get to you.  The ones that weren't "killed" would be immobilized.  Repeat as necessary.

A cool series might be tracking the civilization that rises up after the initial invasion.

Like first scene, pilot episode, a guy walks out of his house to go check his Zombie traps, and dispose of any that managed to get caught in them.

It would be a lot like living in a post-plague world or something. Always wash your hands, don't get close to sick people, and be wary of survivors.

Anyone else watched Jeremiah? (its free on Netflix on demand)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290966/

Kinda like a Jeremiah with zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SpecialistK on December 06, 2010, 04:52:15 PM
Oh you guys with your over-analyzing a zombie apocalypse (something I do quite often myself hehehe). However you did make some really good points.

As a positive aspect of the finale how about the flashback to the hospital in the beginning of the episode? Absolute chaos. I loved it. The military going nuts (or following orders?) and just executing everyone in the hallway and then the sergeant walking up to each body and putting a round in their head. Awesome. Kinda makes u think about what would happen if s hit the fan in real life (zombie or other epidemic). Then Shane blocking the doorway: he looks one way and the walkers are coming down the hallway and the other way the soldiers are wasting everyone. It's like "pick your poison" lol. Good stuff (wonder how he got outta there?).

I love the show and can forgive the plot holes here and there. Example: What happend to the can alarm system (lol) they set up around the camp?

Since it seems we are on the topic of nitpicking tho let me point this out: WHY THE F DOESN'T ANYONE pick up the M4s and .50 cal machine guns that are just strewn about the place (by the tank in Atlanta, and all outside/inside the CDC)? I see one of those bad-larrys hanging around I snatch it up and go to work!

As a matter of fact in most movies / TV shows you very rarely see the hero doing this. Example: Jack Bauer's USP (a pistol) >>> all your automatic assault rifles at any range you silly terrorists! Can't we all be like Bruce Willis in Die Hard? "Now I have a machine gun... ho, ho, ho!"

Anyway there's my minor gripe. Can't wait until season 2!

Edit: First post btw!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 06, 2010, 05:29:01 PM
Then Shane blocking the doorway: he looks one way and the walkers are coming down the hallway and the other way the soldiers are wasting everyone. It's like "pick your poison" lol. Good stuff (wonder how he got outta there?).

I had the show on during the encore and noticed that right after shooting all the patients, a soldier looks at Shane, starts to train his gun on him, and stops.  I think they let him go because he was a cop and wasn't obviously bitten.

But then again they also didn't seem to have a problem with all having their backs to an unsecured door, so who knows.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: mahonedog88 on December 06, 2010, 05:34:19 PM
Big fan of the series...my favorite storyline I think has to be the whole Merle thing.  Episodes 2 and 3 are by far my favorite.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BballTim on December 07, 2010, 03:07:42 PM
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/07/the-walking-dead-finale-breaks-ratings-records/?hpt=T2
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on December 07, 2010, 03:43:53 PM
Big fan of the series...my favorite storyline I think has to be the whole Merle thing.  Episodes 2 and 3 are by far my favorite.
yep - from when his horse got eaten to when they went back and saw hand of Merle was the best part of season 1. The beginning episodes could have been standard in any zombie flick (and almost exactly parallel 28 days.)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 07, 2010, 03:47:43 PM
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/07/the-walking-dead-finale-breaks-ratings-records/?hpt=T2

For those who don't want to read it, TWD kicked major butt in the 18-49 demo. That's about the gist. I'm glad too..I hope for an improved 2nd season..and for all my gripes, I enjoyed season 1.

Big fan of the series...my favorite storyline I think has to be the whole Merle thing.  Episodes 2 and 3 are by far my favorite.
yep - from when his horse got eaten to when they went back and saw hand of Merle was the best part of season 1. The beginning episodes could have been standard in any zombie flick (and almost exactly parallel 28 days.)

Agree, and with the addition that 28 Days is head and shoulders above all other Zombie movies in my eye. From the acting to the feasibility...they win.

But then, its not really a zombie movie though, is it?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: birdwatcher on December 07, 2010, 04:45:46 PM
I had high, high hopes for this series from the pilot through episode 3. I understand the character development/relationships need to be brought along and nurtured for the viewer for the longevity's sake of the series, but it was pretty unbalanced for me. It was so forced that watching the writers take their time trying to win an emmy was taking my interest away. It should have focused more on survival and back story.
I agree that zombies in most movies/comics do have a shelf life--they will eventually die out, and rather quickly without a food source, and from the elements. I was also curious if animals are affected by the virus in this world--although the only one I've seen was the horse.
I hope the writing is better next season, but overall, I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see what they do with a full season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Drucci on December 07, 2010, 05:22:56 PM
I really liked Episode 5 and the season overall but I was really disappointed by the finale. I thought the whole story of that episode was pretty lame and "meh", especially the countdown part (so cliché and so unrealistic...). The scientist was kind of not convincing too, his motives weren't really credible. I liked how Dale's character was developed though, he is as sympathetic that in the comics.

Anyway I guess the finale mostly disappointed me because there was no cliffhanger. I will watch season 2 when it comes out, of course, but I really hope it will stay closer to the comics' story and avoid cheap storylines like this one.

Overall though, great show and really good first season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: openairmovie on December 07, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Watching it for the second time right now....the prelude from the Doctor in interesting  "There will come a day when you wish you didn't "

Secondly  what do you guys think was said from the doctor when he whispered into his ear?

Love the series way too short for the first season though  any idea when season two is?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 07, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
Watching it for the second time right now....the prelude from the Doctor in interesting  "There will come a day when you wish you didn't "

Secondly  what do you guys think was said from the doctor when he whispered into his ear?

Love the series way too short for the first season though  any idea when season two is?

I got some bad news bears for you. Production on season 2 hasn't even started yet, and the head honcho recently fired all the writers. They're thinking next october.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: openairmovie on December 07, 2010, 11:13:52 PM
canned all the writers??? what for? the show was top rated across the board....kinda reminds me of the heat firing their entire season ticket staff once the big drama came to town ...the big wigs forget all the little people that bring them to the top
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 07, 2010, 11:22:40 PM
canned all the writers??? what for? the show was top rated across the board....kinda reminds me of the heat firing their entire season ticket staff once the big drama came to town ...the big wigs forget all the little people that bring them to the top

I don't get it either..but looking back on the last 6 epis, I do think there is room for improvement. That said, this move looks incredibly drastic, it kills whatever momentum they had going, and it smells like desperation, instead of rotting flesh..like it should.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 08, 2010, 05:46:57 AM
The last episode will be re-shown at 4AM Friday, (early Friday morning, late Thursday night), 10PM that same day, and 1AM the following morning, (3 hours later), for those like me that missed it, and are working the other side of the clock. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Birdbrain on December 08, 2010, 07:20:35 AM
canned all the writers??? what for? the show was top rated across the board....kinda reminds me of the heat firing their entire season ticket staff once the big drama came to town ...the big wigs forget all the little people that bring them to the top

I read where the guy that fired all of the writers actually had to rewrite the pilot episode and the finale.  And even with that the writing has been poor.  We love Zombies though.  Way too much drama and not enough action, IMHO.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 10, 2010, 04:05:09 AM
For those who may have not seen it, the last episode is on AMC right now. (4AM) It will be on at 10PM tonight, as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 10, 2010, 04:26:58 AM
Always liked Laurie Holden ... first thing I saw her in was "The Majestic" with Jim Carrey. Loved that movie, though it had mixed reviews.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 10, 2010, 05:18:16 AM
So, the big question/secret tying us to the next season, (however long we have to wait for it), is: What did Jenner say into Rick's ear at the end? Maybe Rick's wife, Lori, is pregnant? (Her illness/vomiting). Jenner found something in Rick's blood that could be a key? I think it was that Andrea has the virus, (hence the bandage and her wish to remain at the CDC and die painlessly).

However, during an interview with actor Noah Emmerich, (Dr. Jenner), he said the following:

Q: So fess up. What did Jenner whisper into Rick's ear?

A: "You know the most important thing to remember in life, like the most important thing in life? If I could tell you one thing that's the most import thing to get by and have a happy life, it's that -- [Emmerich begins mumbling] -- and that's exactly what it is." Did you hear me?


Any guesses?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 10, 2010, 07:51:57 PM
FYI: The final episode is on at 10PM tonight, for those who may have missed it. (AMC)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on December 10, 2010, 07:59:53 PM
So, the big question/secret tying us to the next season, (however long we have to wait for it), is: What did Jenner say into Rick's ear at the end? Maybe Rick's wife, Lori, is pregnant? (Her illness/vomiting). Jenner found something in Rick's blood that could be a key? I think it was that Andrea has the virus, (hence the bandage and her wish to remain at the CDC and die painlessly).

However, during an interview with actor Noah Emmerich, (Dr. Jenner), he said the following:

Q: So fess up. What did Jenner whisper into Rick's ear?

A: "You know the most important thing to remember in life, like the most important thing in life? If I could tell you one thing that's the most import thing to get by and have a happy life, it's that -- [Emmerich begins mumbling] -- and that's exactly what it is." Did you hear me?


Any guesses?

def pregnant.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 10, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
So, the big question/secret tying us to the next season, (however long we have to wait for it), is: What did Jenner say into Rick's ear at the end? Maybe Rick's wife, Lori, is pregnant? (Her illness/vomiting). Jenner found something in Rick's blood that could be a key? I think it was that Andrea has the virus, (hence the bandage and her wish to remain at the CDC and die painlessly).

However, during an interview with actor Noah Emmerich, (Dr. Jenner), he said the following:

Q: So fess up. What did Jenner whisper into Rick's ear?

A: "You know the most important thing to remember in life, like the most important thing in life? If I could tell you one thing that's the most import thing to get by and have a happy life, it's that -- [Emmerich begins mumbling] -- and that's exactly what it is." Did you hear me?


Any guesses?

def pregnant.

And it's most likely Shane's child, not Rick's.

Someone should come up with a show where the paid writers come up with the premise or first episode, and the audience/general public are the ones who write the subsequent episodes, (submitted online), adapted and edited by professionals, of course. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 10, 2010, 11:28:41 PM
FYI: There is another broadcast of the last episode airing at 1AM.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on January 18, 2011, 11:01:21 AM
FYI: There's a "marathon" showing of the entire first season tonight and tomorrow night at 8PM on AMC.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 14, 2011, 10:23:59 AM
For those interested, the Season Two Premiere is this Sunday, October 16, at 9PM ... I believe they're replaying last season as a lead-up to the premiere, (earlier in the day, ending at 9PM).

AMC, for those who didn't know.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: mkogav on October 14, 2011, 10:29:44 AM
I can't wait! I have the DVR set and and beers on ice. I hope the number of episodes at least double this season. Six was far too little.

Mk
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 14, 2011, 11:15:26 AM
I can't wait! I have the DVR set and and beers on ice. I hope the number of episodes at least double this season. Six was far too little.

Mk

Yeah, this show is one of the best on tv.  Love it.

I think I read somewhere that this season will be 13 episodes or something in that vincinity which will be awesome.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 14, 2011, 12:38:03 PM
For those interested, the Season Two Premiere is this Sunday, October 16, at 9PM ... I believe they're replaying last season as a lead-up to the premiere, (earlier in the day, ending at 9PM).

AMC, for those who didn't know.
Excellent news.  love the show.  any idea if they'll replay the episodes like they do with their other shows?  my DVR only picks up 2 shows at a time and sadly they put this up against Boardwalk Empire (me) and Desperate Housewives (wife).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 14, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
For those interested, the Season Two Premiere is this Sunday, October 16, at 9PM ... I believe they're replaying last season as a lead-up to the premiere, (earlier in the day, ending at 9PM).

AMC, for those who didn't know.
Excellent news.  love the show.  any idea if they'll replay the episodes like they do with their other shows?  my DVR only picks up 2 shows at a time and sadly they put this up against Boardwalk Empire (me) and Desperate Housewives (wife).

They start with previous episodes at 230P on Sunday ... not sure if it's complete or condensed, but it starts at the beginning and goes until the new premiere at 9PM.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 14, 2011, 02:10:22 PM
I'm interested to see if it's as good this year without Frank Darabont onboard.  Rumors has it that AMC cut the per-episode budget for the show, when led to a grudge match with Darabont regarding production values.  The counter-argument seems to be that Darabont couldn't handle the day-to-day responsibilities of running a TV show.  Either way, he's gone, and it kind of sucks.  Let's hope we don't miss him.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Finkelskyhook on October 14, 2011, 04:05:12 PM
I thought this was a thread about Jermaine O'Neal
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Prof. Clutch on October 14, 2011, 04:16:54 PM
I had my hopes set high for TWD last year but the show struggled mightily last season to the point that I have no expectations (or real interest) in watching it this season.  Perhaps that's a good thing because my bar is set pretty low for this series.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 14, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
I thought this was a thread about Jermaine O'Neal

That joke never gets old.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Casperian on October 20, 2011, 07:42:41 PM
I had my hopes set high for TWD last year but the show struggled mightily last season to the point that I have no expectations (or real interest) in watching it this season.  Perhaps that's a good thing because my bar is set pretty low for this series.

You´re in the film-making business, right?
Seeing it from that perspective, I can understand your disappointment, I guess.

I thought the writing in particular was horrible, at times. Some ridiculously big plotholes didn´t help, either. I also think that Robert Kirkman should stay away from screen-writing as far as possible. Some of the actors are not exactly top-notch, either, in my opinion.

All that said, I think the series was still highly entertaining, and I´ll definitely watch the second season. It´s just good TV, nothing more, nothing less. The basic material is excellent, and if they simply follow the plot of the comics (which I only read up to around issue #50 after watching the first season), we should be in for several entertaining hours of TV.

Best proof for me that the series works was that my girlfriend, who is one of those "Grey´s Anatomy" fangirls, and hates "all this fantasy and science-fiction stuff" (her words), was hooked after reluctantly watching the first episode with me and couldn´t stop talking about it. I can´t wait to show her "A Game of Thrones", and shatter her worldview once again. :P
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 20, 2011, 07:49:12 PM

Best proof for me that the series works was that my girlfriend, who is one of those "Grey´s Anatomy" fangirls, and hates "all this fantasy and science-fiction stuff" (her words), was hooked after reluctantly watching the first episode with me and couldn´t stop talking about it.

Ha.  Same thing with my wife.  The whole time she was saying "I can't believe I'm watching this", but she was hooked.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 20, 2011, 08:15:36 PM
watched all day sunday...diggin the show..

last episode what did that dude that blew him self up with the sista say to the leader..he whispered in his ear..

and mention in he season primo ep..?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 21, 2011, 09:50:37 PM
The premiere episode of Season Two is being shown tonight at 10PM, for any who may have missed it on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 21, 2011, 09:54:24 PM
last episode what did that dude that blew him self up with the sista say to the leader..he whispered in his ear..

I don't think they've addressed this yet, unless I missed it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 21, 2011, 10:00:25 PM
Tonight's replay of Season Two Premiere will be followed by a discussion of the show by the director and actors ... should be good.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 21, 2011, 10:04:14 PM
last episode what did that dude that blew him self up with the sista say to the leader..he whispered in his ear..

I don't think they've addressed this yet, unless I missed it.

Just watching now, and the Sheriff almost says what it is in the intro, but then backs off ... not sure if they'll discuss it in the follow-up show. Looks as though the director wants to keep it a secret for now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 21, 2011, 10:04:24 PM
Tonight's replay of Season Two Premiere will be followed by a discussion of the show by the director and actors ... should be good.

Sweet.  You can also watch a panel discussion (not sure if it's the same one) here:  http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51689

Just watch out; there are some minor spoilers, not only about Season 2, but about the comic book series as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 21, 2011, 11:04:52 PM
It's a good show.  Man are zombies popular these days or what?  My son loves this show and anything zombie.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 21, 2011, 11:08:57 PM
The Foley (natural sound effects) Artists must be having a blast with this show ... I'll bet they go through a lot of steak and watermelons. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on October 22, 2011, 03:06:31 AM
Remember that time when one dog in ny got rabies, then 3 weeks later ALL the dogs from ny to la had rabies? Yeah...me either.

Until that gets explained in the first 20 mins of a zombie epic, I'm done with the genre.

If you have Netflix, check out jeremiah. Awesome apocalypse scenario. Well done. Better than this **** gore.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Casperian on October 22, 2011, 08:15:37 AM
Remember that time when one dog in ny got rabies, then 3 weeks later ALL the dogs from ny to la had rabies? Yeah...me either.

Until that gets explained in the first 20 mins of a zombie epic, I'm done with the genre.

If you have Netflix, check out jeremiah. Awesome apocalypse scenario. Well done. Better than this **** gore.

Hmm, isn´t that a bit like saying "Until someone explains to me how all the people on earth started living in peace, I´m done with Star Trek"? Were you happy with the "scientific" explanation for the force in Star Wars Episode I? Personally, I liked it better when it was still a mystery.

Judging by the comics, there´s a reason why they didn´t explain the exact circumstances for the outbreak, yet. I think that´s just the part of the zombie genre where the audience has to suspend their disbelief.

If I had to make an attempt to explain the major differences between a rabies and a zombie outbreak, I´d say that a) there are more humans than dogs, b) rabies doesn´t necessarily drive every dog to bite other dogs, and c) humans don´t care for dogs as much as they do for other humans.

If you´d see a rabid dog on the street, the most likely reaction would be to call the cops, who will easily take care of the dog. If you see an old woman wandering aimlessly through the streets, you probably walk up to her to see if she´s ok, at which point it´s already too late.

Also, the fact that a rabid dog is no threat if you shoot him in the leg, while a zombie needs a shot in the head, is a pretty significant difference. I´d suggest to read "World War Z" by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks, where he tries to come up with relatively logical explanations for exactly these kind of questions.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 30, 2011, 07:25:41 PM
New episode tonight at 9PM for those interested.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 30, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
wow!!..love this ep

i know it's still early in to season 2

but i cant wait to see the season finale

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 09:45:36 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 31, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 


that was more than doin what you gotta do

last season he had sherrif dude in his sight till the old man stepped in and said sumthin..


this dude is wicked.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 31, 2011, 09:51:23 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 


so hobbs///

me and you out there...u twist your ankle...and movin kinda slow...im come up and save u..then when it gets tuff u gonna shot me so the zombies can feed while u get away?

hobbs...i see u in a whole nother light...


im afraid of u...!!


*drankin*

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 


so hobbs///

me and you out there...u twist your ankle...and movin kinda slow...im come up and save u..then when it gets tuff u gonna shot me so the zombies can feed while u get away?

hobbs...i see u in a whole nother light...


im afraid of u...!!


*drankin*



Haha.  Better you than me, Bass.

Nah, just kidding.  I've got a feeling that I'd be the slow one, so I'd probably be zombie bait.  But in Shane's mind -- besides the fact that he's a little unhinged -- he was probably thinking that if he didn't kill the big guy, then both of them + the kid would be dead right now.
 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 31, 2011, 10:18:30 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 


so hobbs///

me and you out there...u twist your ankle...and movin kinda slow...im come up and save u..then when it gets tuff u gonna shot me so the zombies can feed while u get away?

hobbs...i see u in a whole nother light...


im afraid of u...!!


*drankin*



Haha.  Better you than me, Bass.

Nah, just kidding.  I've got a feeling that I'd be the slow one, so I'd probably be zombie bait.  But in Shane's mind -- besides the fact that he's a little unhinged -- he was probably thinking that if he didn't kill the big guy, then both of them + the kid would be dead right now.
 


we will both make it

    with your twisted up ankle..i'd pick u up and carry u out....

   never leave a homie behind....


(http://warriorshepherd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/firemans_carry-300x235.jpg)

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 10:26:27 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 


so hobbs///

me and you out there...u twist your ankle...and movin kinda slow...im come up and save u..then when it gets tuff u gonna shot me so the zombies can feed while u get away?

hobbs...i see u in a whole nother light...


im afraid of u...!!


*drankin*



Haha.  Better you than me, Bass.

Nah, just kidding.  I've got a feeling that I'd be the slow one, so I'd probably be zombie bait.  But in Shane's mind -- besides the fact that he's a little unhinged -- he was probably thinking that if he didn't kill the big guy, then both of them + the kid would be dead right now.
 


we will both make it

    with your twisted up ankle..i'd pick u up and carry u out....

   never leave a homie behind....


(http://warriorshepherd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/firemans_carry-300x235.jpg)



You da man, Bass.  If we're ever caught up in a zombie apocalypse, I want you by my side.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 31, 2011, 10:40:04 PM
Pretty cutthroat move by Shane at the end of last night's episode.  You do what you gotta do, but that's gonna be tough to live with. 


so hobbs///

me and you out there...u twist your ankle...and movin kinda slow...im come up and save u..then when it gets tuff u gonna shot me so the zombies can feed while u get away?

hobbs...i see u in a whole nother light...


im afraid of u...!!


*drankin*



Haha.  Better you than me, Bass.

Nah, just kidding.  I've got a feeling that I'd be the slow one, so I'd probably be zombie bait.  But in Shane's mind -- besides the fact that he's a little unhinged -- he was probably thinking that if he didn't kill the big guy, then both of them + the kid would be dead right now.
 


we will both make it

    with your twisted up ankle..i'd pick u up and carry u out....

   never leave a homie behind....


(http://warriorshepherd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/firemans_carry-300x235.jpg)



You da man, Bass.  If we're ever caught up in a zombie apocalypse, I want you by my side.


LOL..!!

   that tickled me a lil bit..!


when the zombie apocalypse goes down..


   throw up the bat signal....


(http://www.bryan-kennedy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/batsignal.jpg)






Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 01, 2011, 12:43:51 AM
Missed it this week ... hope they replay it, (they usually do).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 01, 2011, 08:14:51 AM
Missed it this week ... hope they replay it, (they usually do).

Yeah, it will at the very least be on before next week's episode, I believe.

You need to bite the bullet and buy / lease a DVR, my friend.  It will make your life less stressful (and less productive!)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 01, 2011, 08:28:37 AM
Missed it this week ... hope they replay it, (they usually do).

Yeah, it will at the very least be on before next week's episode, I believe.

You need to bite the bullet and buy / lease a DVR, my friend.  It will make your life less stressful (and less productive!)

You must be psychic, Roy ... I just talked to my daughter, (20 min ago!), about which DVR is the best, (she used to manage a Best Buy, so she's my tekkie consult). I'm such a tight-wad! ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on November 01, 2011, 09:09:23 AM
Didnt know we had a zombie following on celticsblog.

Dead is literally my favorite part of the week.  I never knew an hour could go by so fast...

My one issue with last week's episode was - why did Shane pop Otis in the leg? Why didn't he just do him the favor of putting it straight in his temple?  The "geeks" would of still stopped to fill their bellies.

The only theory i have is that Shane thought Otis' screams of horror would make sure to attract ALL the zombies to him? Either way, Shane is coooooooooold.  And i love it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 01, 2011, 09:43:14 AM
DVR does kick butt. I didn't have one for years and got one last month.  I don't know how I lived without it.   I might a few west coast games prior to this but not any more.

Dead is a great show.   I just hope the episodes stay good last year I thought the first few were brilliant and they got worse as the season went on.  They still were not bad though.

Any thoughts on whether Merle made it or reappear?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: birdwatcher on November 01, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
Didnt know we had a zombie following on celticsblog.

Dead is literally my favorite part of the week.  I never knew an hour could go by so fast...

My one issue with last week's episode was - why did Shane pop Otis in the leg? Why didn't he just do him the favor of putting it straight in his temple?  The "geeks" would of still stopped to fill their bellies.

The only theory i have is that Shane thought Otis' screams of horror would make sure to attract ALL the zombies to him? Either way, Shane is coooooooooold.  And i love it.
Because zombies only feast on the living, which is why there are dead human carcasses through out the highway. In a sense they are predators, not scavengers. Wow, I feel really dorky now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 01, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
Didnt know we had a zombie following on celticsblog.

Dead is literally my favorite part of the week.  I never knew an hour could go by so fast...

My one issue with last week's episode was - why did Shane pop Otis in the leg? Why didn't he just do him the favor of putting it straight in his temple?  The "geeks" would of still stopped to fill their bellies.

The only theory i have is that Shane thought Otis' screams of horror would make sure to attract ALL the zombies to him? Either way, Shane is coooooooooold.  And i love it.
Because zombies only feast on the living, which is why there are dead human carcasses through out the highway. In a sense they are predators, not scavengers. Wow, I feel really dorky now.

Yeah but they ate the legs off that guy who hung himself.  If Otis had only been dead for a few seconds I don't think they'd've passed him by.  Practically it might've been to draw more zombies in, but I think the real reason was it was just more dramatic to show it that way.

I was just stoked because I called Shane kneecapping Otis as soon as he started doing the Travis Bickle thing 2 minutes into the episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 01, 2011, 01:34:42 PM
In the episode the first season they tracked humans by smell I recall.   They were able to move amoungst them by covering themselves with entrails.  I would think they track by movement and sound as well.  Gunfire seems to draw them and they key on movement.  Otis would not smell ripe just shot for a while.  This smell is a by product of decomposition.  It starts as soon as something dies but Otis would  still smell fresh if just shot.

http://www.separationsnow.com/coi/cda/detail.cda?id=691&type=Feature&chId=3&page=1

The legs on the guy who hung himself could have been a botched hanging.   Hanging isn't always instant.   It can take sometimes up 20 minutes or more with no drop.   I would guess that zombie hung did not have a drop and died from asphixiation or occlusion of the blood vessels.  The person is passed out from lack of oxygen but their heart can still beat hence it was tradition in England to hang someone for an hour to make sure.  Perhaps they saw the twitching legs and decided to feast.  Not like it matters it's a show and there are no biology of a zombie classes, lol.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 01, 2011, 01:46:13 PM
Remember that time when one dog in ny got rabies, then 3 weeks later ALL the dogs from ny to la had rabies? Yeah...me either.

Until that gets explained in the first 20 mins of a zombie epic, I'm done with the genre.

If you have Netflix, check out jeremiah. Awesome apocalypse scenario. Well done. Better than this **** gore.

Hmm, isn´t that a bit like saying "Until someone explains to me how all the people on earth started living in peace, I´m done with Star Trek"? Were you happy with the "scientific" explanation for the force in Star Wars Episode I? Personally, I liked it better when it was still a mystery.

Judging by the comics, there´s a reason why they didn´t explain the exact circumstances for the outbreak, yet. I think that´s just the part of the zombie genre where the audience has to suspend their disbelief.

If I had to make an attempt to explain the major differences between a rabies and a zombie outbreak, I´d say that a) there are more humans than dogs, b) rabies doesn´t necessarily drive every dog to bite other dogs, and c) humans don´t care for dogs as much as they do for other humans.

If you´d see a rabid dog on the street, the most likely reaction would be to call the cops, who will easily take care of the dog. If you see an old woman wandering aimlessly through the streets, you probably walk up to her to see if she´s ok, at which point it´s already too late.

Also, the fact that a rabid dog is no threat if you shoot him in the leg, while a zombie needs a shot in the head, is a pretty significant difference. I´d suggest to read "World War Z" by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks, where he tries to come up with relatively logical explanations for exactly these kind of questions.

I've read lots and lots and lots of zombie stuff (hence maybe why I'm so incredibly skeptical now). A zombie apocolypse simply and utterly could not ever occur, if it comes from the:

1: Small group has it. Bites more people who also get it.
2: ?
3: Zombie survival!!

There is a little bit of a jump I'm willing to make. For instance, in 28 days later, its pretty infeasible that any affliction that only is passed through fluid exchange would ever sweep across a country like that..but at least is makes a little more sense.

But mortified flesh? The thing about zombie fiction as a genre is that it is constantly striving for realism, after a completely and utterly unrealistic start. Its always trying to be the most realistic impossible premise ever.

TrueBlood vampires make more sense. Magic makes more sense. But, zombie-ism, especially when they don't try to tie in any supernatural stuff (which is very common, its almost always a 'virus' or something..the more feasible scenario is 'there isn't enough room in hell'), just doesn't jive. We're too smart, too resourceful, and too well-armed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on November 01, 2011, 01:56:37 PM
Remember that time when one dog in ny got rabies, then 3 weeks later ALL the dogs from ny to la had rabies? Yeah...me either.

Until that gets explained in the first 20 mins of a zombie epic, I'm done with the genre.

If you have Netflix, check out jeremiah. Awesome apocalypse scenario. Well done. Better than this **** gore.

Hmm, isn´t that a bit like saying "Until someone explains to me how all the people on earth started living in peace, I´m done with Star Trek"? Were you happy with the "scientific" explanation for the force in Star Wars Episode I? Personally, I liked it better when it was still a mystery.

Judging by the comics, there´s a reason why they didn´t explain the exact circumstances for the outbreak, yet. I think that´s just the part of the zombie genre where the audience has to suspend their disbelief.

If I had to make an attempt to explain the major differences between a rabies and a zombie outbreak, I´d say that a) there are more humans than dogs, b) rabies doesn´t necessarily drive every dog to bite other dogs, and c) humans don´t care for dogs as much as they do for other humans.

If you´d see a rabid dog on the street, the most likely reaction would be to call the cops, who will easily take care of the dog. If you see an old woman wandering aimlessly through the streets, you probably walk up to her to see if she´s ok, at which point it´s already too late.

Also, the fact that a rabid dog is no threat if you shoot him in the leg, while a zombie needs a shot in the head, is a pretty significant difference. I´d suggest to read "World War Z" by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks, where he tries to come up with relatively logical explanations for exactly these kind of questions.

I've read lots and lots and lots of zombie stuff (hence maybe why I'm so incredibly skeptical now). A zombie apocolypse simply and utterly could not ever occur, if it comes from the:

1: Small group has it. Bites more people who also get it.
2: ?
3: Zombie survival!!

There is a little bit of a jump I'm willing to make. For instance, in 28 days later, its pretty infeasible that any affliction that only is passed through fluid exchange would ever sweep across a country like that..but at least is makes a little more sense.

But mortified flesh? The thing about zombie fiction as a genre is that it is constantly striving for realism, after a completely and utterly unrealistic start. Its always trying to be the most realistic impossible premise ever.

TrueBlood vampires make more sense. Magic makes more sense. But, zombie-ism, especially when they don't try to tie in any supernatural stuff (which is very common, its almost always a 'virus' or something..the more feasible scenario is 'there isn't enough room in hell'), just doesn't jive. We're too smart, too resourceful, and too well-armed.

I agree with that last part, IP, did you ever read World War Z? (i'm assuming you did).

In that book it seemed like the problem exploded because militaries worldwide just underestimated the voume of the infected and emphasized "shock and awe" weaponry over plain old bullet-to-the-scull tactics.  I have a hard time accepting that the military leaders of today would struggle to identify the best way to kill a target whose only way of dying is via headshot.

But hey, who is going to read a book about how a zombie apocolypse almost started but was stifled immediately by efficient military units.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 01, 2011, 02:27:57 PM
Remember that time when one dog in ny got rabies, then 3 weeks later ALL the dogs from ny to la had rabies? Yeah...me either.

Until that gets explained in the first 20 mins of a zombie epic, I'm done with the genre.

If you have Netflix, check out jeremiah. Awesome apocalypse scenario. Well done. Better than this **** gore.

Hmm, isn´t that a bit like saying "Until someone explains to me how all the people on earth started living in peace, I´m done with Star Trek"? Were you happy with the "scientific" explanation for the force in Star Wars Episode I? Personally, I liked it better when it was still a mystery.

Judging by the comics, there´s a reason why they didn´t explain the exact circumstances for the outbreak, yet. I think that´s just the part of the zombie genre where the audience has to suspend their disbelief.

If I had to make an attempt to explain the major differences between a rabies and a zombie outbreak, I´d say that a) there are more humans than dogs, b) rabies doesn´t necessarily drive every dog to bite other dogs, and c) humans don´t care for dogs as much as they do for other humans.

If you´d see a rabid dog on the street, the most likely reaction would be to call the cops, who will easily take care of the dog. If you see an old woman wandering aimlessly through the streets, you probably walk up to her to see if she´s ok, at which point it´s already too late.

Also, the fact that a rabid dog is no threat if you shoot him in the leg, while a zombie needs a shot in the head, is a pretty significant difference. I´d suggest to read "World War Z" by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks, where he tries to come up with relatively logical explanations for exactly these kind of questions.

I've read lots and lots and lots of zombie stuff (hence maybe why I'm so incredibly skeptical now). A zombie apocolypse simply and utterly could not ever occur, if it comes from the:

1: Small group has it. Bites more people who also get it.
2: ?
3: Zombie survival!!

There is a little bit of a jump I'm willing to make. For instance, in 28 days later, its pretty infeasible that any affliction that only is passed through fluid exchange would ever sweep across a country like that..but at least is makes a little more sense.

But mortified flesh? The thing about zombie fiction as a genre is that it is constantly striving for realism, after a completely and utterly unrealistic start. Its always trying to be the most realistic impossible premise ever.

TrueBlood vampires make more sense. Magic makes more sense. But, zombie-ism, especially when they don't try to tie in any supernatural stuff (which is very common, its almost always a 'virus' or something..the more feasible scenario is 'there isn't enough room in hell'), just doesn't jive. We're too smart, too resourceful, and too well-armed.

I agree with that last part, IP, did you ever read World War Z? (i'm assuming you did).

In that book it seemed like the problem exploded because militaries worldwide just underestimated the voume of the infected and emphasized "shock and awe" weaponry over plain old bullet-to-the-scull tactics.  I have a hard time accepting that the military leaders of today would struggle to identify the best way to kill a target whose only way of dying is via headshot.

But hey, who is going to read a book about how a zombie apocolypse almost started but was stifled immediately by efficient military units.

An underrated point in WWZ is also that the epidemic started in China, but the Chinese continued to sell black-market organs from the zombies they put down, which either killed and zombified recipients right away (if a vital organ) or over a few days or weeks (if less vital).  Helped explain the global spread of the disease before anyone realized what was happening.

In the Walking Dead comics there's a specific reason why it went global very quickly (SPOILERSPOILER Highlight with mouse to read: Everyone is infected, death from any cause leads to reanimation, a bite just speeds up death /SPOILERSPOILER)

But from some of the scenes in the show it looks like they aren't going that route. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on November 01, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
In the Walking Dead comics there's a specific reason why it went global very quickly (SPOILERSPOILER Highlight with mouse to read: Everyone is infected, death from any cause leads to reanimation, a bite just speeds up death /SPOILERSPOILER)

Makes a lot of sense. I wish they played that up.
(more spoiler stuff)
Are we talking graves all rising as well, or just people who die now? (morespoilerstuff)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 01, 2011, 02:42:32 PM
In the Walking Dead comics there's a specific reason why it went global very quickly (SPOILERSPOILER Highlight with mouse to read: Everyone is infected, death from any cause leads to reanimation, a bite just speeds up death /SPOILERSPOILER)

Makes a lot of sense. I wish they played that up.
(more spoiler stuff)
Are we talking graves all rising as well, or just people who die now? (morespoilerstuff)

They may be saving it for a big reveal, but some of the scenes on the show seem to contradict that premise.  The CDC guy did say something about the virus "abruptly going global" about 2 months before the series starts, but no more details than that.

Per your spoiler text, I haven't read the comics, I only know about it second-hand, but I believe it's your latter scenario.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 01, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
All of it is Fantasy though folks.  I've slept very close under the stars to Transylvania and spent a lot of nights outdoors in Bavaria.  There are no vampires or zombies just evil people.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 01, 2011, 09:07:16 PM
In the Walking Dead comics there's a specific reason why it went global very quickly (SPOILERSPOILER Highlight with mouse to read: Everyone is infected, death from any cause leads to reanimation, a bite just speeds up death /SPOILERSPOILER)

Makes a lot of sense. I wish they played that up.
(more spoiler stuff)
Are we talking graves all rising as well, or just people who die now? (morespoilerstuff)


is that what that dude that blew him self up last season told that sheriff dude?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Casperian on November 07, 2011, 03:44:55 AM
I've read lots and lots and lots of zombie stuff (hence maybe why I'm so incredibly skeptical now). A zombie apocolypse simply and utterly could not ever occur, if it comes from the:

1: Small group has it. Bites more people who also get it.
2: ?
3: Zombie survival!!

There is a little bit of a jump I'm willing to make. For instance, in 28 days later, its pretty infeasible that any affliction that only is passed through fluid exchange would ever sweep across a country like that..but at least is makes a little more sense.

But mortified flesh? The thing about zombie fiction as a genre is that it is constantly striving for realism, after a completely and utterly unrealistic start. Its always trying to be the most realistic impossible premise ever.

TrueBlood vampires make more sense. Magic makes more sense. But, zombie-ism, especially when they don't try to tie in any supernatural stuff (which is very common, its almost always a 'virus' or something..the more feasible scenario is 'there isn't enough room in hell'), just doesn't jive. We're too smart, too resourceful, and too well-armed.

Well, I said "relatively" logical explanations.

As I said, that´s the part where we have to suspend our disbelief. Star Trek is also always trying to be as realistic as possible with all their "scientific" explanations for the impossible, doesn´t mean it´s not good TV.

I mean, we´re talking about the Horror genre, it´s bound to be unrealistic. You could say the same about Edgar Allan Poe, HP Lovecraft, Bela Lugosi movies etc. Complaining about it seems much nerdier to me than to just accept the premise. I think people always try to nitpick horror movies especially because thinking rationally is what keeps them from freaking out (either that, or it´s simply overexposure).

The thing is, TWD isn´t about the zombies, it´s about the survivors. Kirkman, the author, said on several occasions in the comic that he has no plans to tell the story of the origin of the disease, because it does nothing for the story he wants to tell. That´s good enough for me.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 07, 2011, 08:30:23 AM
The CDC is using zombie mania to train peeps

http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/images/zombie/Alt_Text_for_Graphic_Novella.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 07, 2011, 08:56:02 AM
I thought the Patriots' review would be on this thread today. :P
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: mkogav on November 07, 2011, 01:56:34 PM
Remember that time when one dog in ny got rabies, then 3 weeks later ALL the dogs from ny to la had rabies? Yeah...me either.

Until that gets explained in the first 20 mins of a zombie epic, I'm done with the genre.

If you have Netflix, check out jeremiah. Awesome apocalypse scenario. Well done. Better than this **** gore.

Hmm, isn´t that a bit like saying "Until someone explains to me how all the people on earth started living in peace, I´m done with Star Trek"? Were you happy with the "scientific" explanation for the force in Star Wars Episode I? Personally, I liked it better when it was still a mystery.

Judging by the comics, there´s a reason why they didn´t explain the exact circumstances for the outbreak, yet. I think that´s just the part of the zombie genre where the audience has to suspend their disbelief.

If I had to make an attempt to explain the major differences between a rabies and a zombie outbreak, I´d say that a) there are more humans than dogs, b) rabies doesn´t necessarily drive every dog to bite other dogs, and c) humans don´t care for dogs as much as they do for other humans.

If you´d see a rabid dog on the street, the most likely reaction would be to call the cops, who will easily take care of the dog. If you see an old woman wandering aimlessly through the streets, you probably walk up to her to see if she´s ok, at which point it´s already too late.

Also, the fact that a rabid dog is no threat if you shoot him in the leg, while a zombie needs a shot in the head, is a pretty significant difference. I´d suggest to read "World War Z" by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks, where he tries to come up with relatively logical explanations for exactly these kind of questions.

I've read lots and lots and lots of zombie stuff (hence maybe why I'm so incredibly skeptical now). A zombie apocolypse simply and utterly could not ever occur, if it comes from the:

1: Small group has it. Bites more people who also get it.
2: ?
3: Zombie survival!!

There is a little bit of a jump I'm willing to make. For instance, in 28 days later, its pretty infeasible that any affliction that only is passed through fluid exchange would ever sweep across a country like that..but at least is makes a little more sense.

But mortified flesh? The thing about zombie fiction as a genre is that it is constantly striving for realism, after a completely and utterly unrealistic start. Its always trying to be the most realistic impossible premise ever.

TrueBlood vampires make more sense. Magic makes more sense. But, zombie-ism, especially when they don't try to tie in any supernatural stuff (which is very common, its almost always a 'virus' or something..the more feasible scenario is 'there isn't enough room in hell'), just doesn't jive. We're too smart, too resourceful, and too well-armed.

On last weeks Talking Dead after show, the author of the Walking Dead books stated that in the Walking Dead world zombie genre does not exist. There are no Romero movies, zombie apocalypse survival books, nor anything else zombie. They don't even know the work zombie.

The people of the Walking Dead world are learning-on-the-fly. If you can keep this in mine, it makes the show more "realistic".

We are so saturated with zombie/infected pop-culture that this can be a bit of a leap-of-mind.

On a side note, if u want a glimpse into what could be a more "realistic" and zombie-less apocalypse, read The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Skip the movie.

Mk

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 20, 2011, 03:43:59 PM
Just started watching Season 1 on Netflix.  Pretty well done.

What was season are they on now?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 20, 2011, 03:47:18 PM
2nd season...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 20, 2011, 03:51:43 PM
Just started watching Season 1 on Netflix.  Pretty well done.

What was season are they on now?

2nd season...

Yeah, tonight is the sixth episode of season two.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 20, 2011, 05:23:16 PM
Just started watching Season 1 on Netflix.  Pretty well done.

What was season are they on now?

2nd season...
ok good...I don,t want to read through the whole thread but has it stayed interesting?

Yeah, tonight is the sixth episode of season two.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 20, 2011, 05:37:36 PM
ok good...I don,t want to read through the whole thread but has it stayed interesting?


It dependss upon who you ask.  I like it.  It's maybe slowed down a bit this season, but I don't mind the pace.  Others online seem to have move of an issue with it, but if you liked the first second, I think you'll like the second.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 20, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
action is on the low low..

but the story line keepin me glued...

thangs bout to be on and poppin!!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 21, 2011, 12:36:11 AM
It is still interesting but there was not a lot of combat tonight.  Mostly personal interaction of the characters.  I would imagine this is cheaper than 200 zombies running around in terms of production cost.

I thought this was the fifth episodes out of 12 but I could be wrong.  Next episode is the mid season finale.

It's a good show but I like it best when they have more suspense ie life and death situations.  I have read the graphic novels but the TV show is different.  But I knew she was not going to keep the pills down because of the graphic novel.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Casperian on November 21, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
It's a good show but I like it best when they have more suspense ie life and death situations.  I have read the graphic novels but the TV show is different.

Do you mean there is more action in the comics?

I think the show has pretty much the same approach. The comics center more around the human aspect, as well. There are many issues of TWD which are mostly about the characters` struggles to deal with each other, or the bleakness of their situation, and we only see the occasional zombie to remind us that the threat still exists.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ManUp on November 28, 2011, 12:01:00 AM
Just one word for that last episode.

Epic!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 28, 2011, 12:56:31 AM
great ep..

but as  this season is goin..

   the battle is gonna be more with the livin then the dead..

ending was def a shocker but also a time to exhale
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 29, 2011, 05:36:21 PM
Finally caught up on Sunday's episode.

The last 15 minutes was pretty intense. 

Good stuff.  Hope things pick up steam in the 2nd half of this season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 07, 2012, 04:28:28 PM
The second half of the season starts Sunday ... looking forward to it, (kinda nice they waited 'til after the Bowl).

Where do they go from here?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on February 07, 2012, 04:41:02 PM
The second half of the season starts Sunday ... looking forward to it, (kinda nice they waited 'til after the Bowl).

Where do they go from here?

Wow i forgot it's back THIS sunday. awesome.

They need to get off that never-never land ranch. Maybe now that they're all desensitized to massive zombie execution they will mount up and go handle things in the city themselves.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: justin_bobo on February 07, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
The second half of the season starts Sunday ... looking forward to it, (kinda nice they waited 'til after the Bowl).

Where do they go from here?

Wow i forgot it's back THIS sunday. awesome.

They need to get off that never-never land ranch. Maybe now that they're all desensitized to massive zombie execution they will mount up and go handle things in the city themselves.

I was hoping the old guy got killed off. He's not going to change, and his selfishness irritates the crap out of me.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 12, 2012, 06:41:38 PM
Premiere of the second half of the season starts at 9P tonight ... I'm really hoping they leave the farm and that selfish old jerk behind ... it seemed to bog down as soon as they got there, and the show needs some fresh content.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on February 12, 2012, 06:54:15 PM
Premiere of the second half of the season starts at 9P tonight ... I'm really hoping they leave the farm and that selfish old jerk behind ... it seemed to bog down as soon as they got there, and the show needs some fresh content.

Have you read the comics, Bahku?  I'm very interested to see if they're going to show some of the story lines that lay ahead.  I agree, they've definitely spent way too much time on the farm.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on February 12, 2012, 06:57:32 PM
Looking forward to tonight. 

In a bit of a tv show void these days so glad to get a favorite back.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: rondohondo on February 12, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
thought for sure this thread was going to be about the 2011-12 Celtics   ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 12, 2012, 08:45:22 PM
Looking forward to tonight. 

In a bit of a tv show void these days so glad to get a favorite back.

yee haw!

watching the last episode now...I like the split season format
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: raynman on February 12, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
thought for sure this thread was going to be about the 2011-12 Celtics   ;)
Same here ! haha.. Unfortunately, these zombies have become more exciting to watch than our erratic and lethargic Celtics..  :-\
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 12, 2012, 10:02:31 PM
Interesting episode ... not bad, though it's a bit odd that there wasn't a single "walker" appearance, (other than flashbacks and the very brief car accident). Looking for a bit more action and activity next week ... any predictions?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 13, 2012, 12:34:42 AM
Watching the post-show "Talking Dead" discussion, and those (production people) who have seen upcoming episodes say they are "mindblowing", and that as seemingly slow as this episode may have seemed, (and somewhat devoid of zombies), the next few episodes will make up for it. Any guesses as to what's wrong with the sick girl? (They hinted that it may soon be discovered that the virus may be mutating to an airborne contagion).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mean n Green 20 on February 13, 2012, 12:49:12 AM
Watching the post-show "Talking Dead" discussion, and those (production people) who have seen upcoming episodes say they are "mindblowing", and that as seemingly slow as this episode may have seemed, (and somewhat devoid of zombies), the next few episodes will make up for it. Any guesses as to what's wrong with the sick girl? (They hinted that it may soon be discovered that the virus may be mutating to an airborne contagion).

The comic books provide so much more action and suspense even in the lulls. Those who have interest in the show should really check out the comics. I have been disappointed how the writers have deviated from the comics storyline. There are so many plots and subplots that confining the show to the farm is an injustice.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Casperian on February 13, 2012, 01:10:29 AM
...

I think you should put spoiler tags on that post. The group doesn´t know about this until later in the comics.

I´ve read the comics, too, and while I absolutely love them, I disagree that there´s more action than in the TV series. There were many issues where we don´t see any zombies at all, and where it´s all about the characters and the group dynamics. All of the "bad guys" are human, anyway.

Personally, I have no clue why so many people on the internet complain about "slow pace", I think the show is great. I´m glad they decided to stick with the nature of the comics, while changing the specifics. Keeps it interesting for those of us who have already read the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mean n Green 20 on February 13, 2012, 02:20:51 AM
...

I think you should put spoiler tags on that post. The group doesn´t know about this until later in the comics.

I´ve read the comics, too, and while I absolutely love them, I disagree that there´s more action than in the TV series. There were many issues where we don´t see any zombies at all, and where it´s all about the characters and the group dynamics. All of the "bad guys" are human, anyway.

Personally, I have no clue why so many people on the internet complain about "slow pace", I think the show is great. I´m glad they decided to stick with the nature of the comics, while changing the specifics. Keeps it interesting for those of us who have already read the comics.

I took out that little spoiler. Hopefully noone was up at this time to read that. I apologize to anyone who did.

I first started watching the show and then recently took interest in the comics. For me there are certain intangibles that have been lost in translation from comic to television. When I was referring to action and suspense I also meant developments within the group or interactions with other survivors. Sometimes I question the direction of the show. The focus on finding the little girl for multiple episodes was a bit strung out. The comic had a miniseries which presented this issue in a compelling cliffhanger style. And now another bedridden person, I mean as they were saying on the aftershow please get us off the darn farm and back on the road. Hopefully after tonights show we will at least have some more guests at the farm.

I agree that there was alot more character development and  focus on the group dynamics in the comics as well as the first season. In the show we have barely gotten to know Hershel's family. The comics provided us with a variety of strange but interesting characters. Apart from Shane, Rick, Lori, Daryl I could care about the rest. Part of the thrill of reading the comics was that the group was always on the road or never truly safe when stationed. You could see them grow and change from this lack of security.

The only actors I can relate to on the show are Shane and Daryl. They seem to best fit into this new world. Rick still seems a bit green behind the ears. Tonight I was happy to see Rick lose a little more of his humanity.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 13, 2012, 03:06:34 AM
problems with other survivors seems greater than dealing with the zombies in up coming episodes
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 13, 2012, 07:35:52 AM
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The only actors I can relate to on the show are Shane and Daryl.

Shane is jerk.  Don't know what that says for you as a person.  JK

Rick is the main character not Shane, folks.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on February 13, 2012, 09:11:25 AM
i really enjoyed last nights episode...

I love Shane.  His actions were validated by the rest of the group.  Best line of the night: "Hey Dale, next time i need a radiator hose i'll make sure to give you a call."

Rick is back! OK corral shoot-out was awesome.

What was Lori thinking? Who is going to go save the day? i hope daryl goes looking for her since he blew her off earlier...


I'm waiting for a showdown between Dale and Shane.  There's only so many run-ins and gun-pointing two people can have together before someone makes a move. i can't stand dale or hershel!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 13, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
glad the show is back.  last season was a bit of a drag with them being stuck on the farm even though the last show was a helluva finale.  Hoping there's a bit more action this year or more about what's going on elsewhere in the world.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Shoot the J on February 13, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
That was a long few months. Glad to have some quality TV back.

I can't imagine they stay at the farm much longer. They seem to be wearing out their welcome, and now that they know the whereabouts of Sophia, I think the story has to take them elsewhere.

I can't stand Dale either. It's only a matter of time before Shane takes him out. The sooner, the better.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 13, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
problems with other survivors seems greater than dealing with the zombies in up coming episodes

indeed



What was Lori thinking? Who is going to go save the day? i hope daryl goes looking for her since he blew her off earlier...

I didn't really understand what were sudden desperation to go retrieve them was all about. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Tai on February 13, 2012, 12:23:15 PM
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The only actors I can relate to on the show are Shane and Daryl.

Shane is jerk.  Don't know what that says for you as a person.  JK

Rick is the main character not Shane, folks.

Which is what I loved about the last scene and what was later discussed in Talking Dead. It re-established Rick as the star of the show, and showed that he, at least for the foreseeable future, is willing to defend that title. That'll be important going forward, considering that Shane has that "why not Me?" attitude about him, and his outburst to Dale. Shane clearly wants to be in charge, and I can see that desire overcoming his friendship with Rick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 13, 2012, 12:24:34 PM
SPOILER ALERT:

By this point in the comics, Shane was already dead.

/END SPOILER ALERT
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on February 13, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
^ It's probably a good idea when discussing the comic to add spoiler alerts.  The show has obviously deviated a lot from the comic, but there are some things folks might not want to know. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 13, 2012, 12:38:10 PM
^ It's probably a good idea when discussing the comic to add spoiler alerts.  The show has obviously deviated a lot from the comic, but there are some things folks might not want to know. 

Meh, Kirkman has come out and said that the show is purposefully deviating from the comic-- for example they never go to the CDC-- and Shane's death happens literally in the 5th issue of the book, it's not a huge spoiler. What would be the spoiler is if I explain how he dies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 15, 2012, 12:20:14 PM
Any guesses as to what's wrong with the sick girl? (They hinted that it may soon be discovered that the virus may be mutating to an airborne contagion).

Just got to watch the episode last night.  I'm 99% sure she got bitten or scratched and is turning.  Naturally, despite having seen this play out over and over again, it hasn't occurred to any of the characters that close-quarters wrestling with a zombie and running a massive fever later that day might be related.  Instead they're all just waiting for Hershel, but he's otherwise occupied:

(http://image.blingee.com/images19/content/output/000/000/000/7a2/781096447_1588387.gif)

I like new Hershel a lot better!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Greenbean on February 15, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
Just glad this thread isnt about the Celtics.

Just getting into the show.

Ill come back here in a couple of weeks when I am caught up. Loving it so far.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on February 20, 2012, 10:57:29 PM
Hey guys, please please please post big spoiler alerts if you are talking about the comics. I already had stuff about Shane and Lori spoiled, and I want to leave it at that.

Anyways, yeah...Show is amazing. I was kind of annoyed that they stayed on the farm for too long this season, but since the plot has been progressing nicely over the last few episodes, I don't mind it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 04, 2012, 06:48:17 PM
Looking forward to tonight's episode ... they're supposed to get much more intense from here on out ... hope so, (I may actually get to see the whole thing tonight ... miracle of miracles).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 04, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Looking forward to tonight's episode ... they're supposed to get much more intense from here on out ... hope so, (I may actually get to see the whole thing tonight ... miracle of miracles).

Yeah, new director for the past few episodes...Which just so happened to be the best ones of the season.

Extremely excited to see these final 3 episodes...Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. is about to go down!  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 04, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
Walking Fred
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 04, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Anyone else watch?

Thoughts?

Well, now it's like the last sane, humanistically-motivated member of the group is gone, and the other hope at the opposite end, (youth), has been tainted with the guilt that he's responsible for it.

Didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 04, 2012, 10:07:43 PM
Anyone else watch?

Thoughts?

Well, now it's like the last sane, humanistically-motivated member of the group is gone, and the other hope at the opposite end, (youth), has been tainted with the guilt that he's responsible for it.

Didn't see that coming.

SPOILERS!


Crazy ending, wasn't expecting Dale to die...Was that how he died in the comics?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 04, 2012, 10:46:37 PM
Kinda running out of memebers of the original group , the writers are killing everybody off.
Guess they will have an epic battle with the group of 30 bad guys.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 04, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
Kinda running out of memebers of the original group , the writers are killing everybody off.
Guess they will have an epic battle with the group of 30 bad guys.



Dont know about that...They can always add small groups of characters in. I slowly started to care about Hershel and Maggie...more-so Hershel now that he's not acting like a dumbass and hording zombies in a barn.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 04, 2012, 11:31:29 PM
Kinda running out of memebers of the original group , the writers are killing everybody off.
Guess they will have an epic battle with the group of 30 bad guys.



Dont know about that...They can always add small groups of characters in. I slowly started to care about Hershel and Maggie...more-so Hershel now that he's not acting like a dumbass and hording zombies in a barn.
Yeah, Hershel has become much less of a pseudo-antagonist for now, and seems resigned to the same reality, now that he knows there is no humanity or chance of it in the walkers. But the death of Dale, (and the guilt Carl has taken on as a result of not killing the walker, or telling anyone about it), has eliminated an extremely important dynamic to the atmosphere and mentality of the group ... I think things get much more brutal and chaotic from here on, and the group divides in very stark lines.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 04, 2012, 11:42:59 PM
New to the series. Didn't know it was good. I've been seeing these books too in the store and I kept ignoring in. I'm still at the part where Sophia got lost because dumb girl wouldn't listen.  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on March 05, 2012, 12:12:34 AM
Kinda running out of memebers of the original group , the writers are killing everybody off.
Guess they will have an epic battle with the group of 30 bad guys.



Dont know about that...They can always add small groups of characters in. I slowly started to care about Hershel and Maggie...more-so Hershel now that he's not acting like a dumbass and hording zombies in a barn.

Dale's death in the comics was way more interesting.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 05, 2012, 03:04:57 PM
Kinda running out of memebers of the original group , the writers are killing everybody off.
Guess they will have an epic battle with the group of 30 bad guys.



Dont know about that...They can always add small groups of characters in. I slowly started to care about Hershel and Maggie...more-so Hershel now that he's not acting like a dumbass and hording zombies in a barn.

Dale's death in the comics was way more interesting.

Spoilers

You had to know it would be different since Andrea and Dale never had a relationship in the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KCattheStripe on March 05, 2012, 03:13:38 PM
Kinda running out of memebers of the original group , the writers are killing everybody off.
Guess they will have an epic battle with the group of 30 bad guys.



Dont know about that...They can always add small groups of characters in. I slowly started to care about Hershel and Maggie...more-so Hershel now that he's not acting like a dumbass and hording zombies in a barn.

Dale's death in the comics was way more interesting.

Spoilers

You had to know it would be different since Andrea and Dale never had a relationship in the show.

You can still have cannibals.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on March 05, 2012, 03:15:30 PM
I would have to think that the rules of zombie-world go something like:

1) Don't walk off into the foggy woods at night by yourself
2) Don't make out with a zombie
3) Don't get fat

From what i know, Dale broke at least two of those golden rules.  He had to go.

In other news, what's the deal with T-Dawg? That guy is useless in the show.  At least he used to provide comic relief like when he almost killed himself on a car door.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ManUp on March 05, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
Carl was p---ing me off the whole episode. How old is this kid supposed to be again? I would have no patience for dumb kids in a Zombie Apocalypse.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: crownsy on March 05, 2012, 04:16:38 PM
Disclaimer: I love this show, but aside from times when my main man darrell is the focus, i kinda feel this way with the show's pacing this season.

(http://penny-arcade.smugmug.com/photos/i-tQbhFXr/0/L/i-tQbhFXr-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 05, 2012, 09:40:56 PM
Carl was p---ing me off the whole episode. How old is this kid supposed to be again? I would have no patience for dumb kids in a Zombie Apocalypse.
I feel the same way.  I was disappointed the zombie didn't get Carl instead. 

Dale offered a counterpoint to the group-think but sometimes his thinking just didn't seem to make sense given the world they now live in.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: dlpin on March 08, 2012, 02:36:23 AM
The frustrating thing about this show for me is that so much of the episodes are just centered around very shallow discussions. I don't mind the never ending talking, but I wish there was more substance to it.

In the endless "who keeps the group safer" discussions between Shane and Rick, it is always a "nah huh/uh huh" discussion. Like when Shane was blaming Rick for the Sophia situation, he never even mentions that he at least went after her, tried something, etc. That it was his grenade that saved the group at the cdc, that it was him who brought the bulk of the guns from the police station... The discussion is just that "did so, did not" over and over.


Same for the discussion in the last episode. It was pretty much the same argument, repeated over and over for 40 minutes. Dale "we will become like them," others "we need to be safe." No one elaborates on anything. No ones mentions to Dale "hey, this kid was shooting on us, and is part of a large group that, by his own admission, rapes, steals and abandons people, even teenage girls."

Now, I don't expect epic debates or anything. But if 40 minutes of an hour long episode are going to be about the same discussion over and over, at least the dialogue could move on from the initial point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 08, 2012, 06:18:51 AM
The frustrating thing about this show for me is that so much of the episodes are just centered around very shallow discussions. I don't mind the never ending talking, but I wish there was more substance to it.

In the endless "who keeps the group safer" discussions between Shane and Rick, it is always a "nah huh/uh huh" discussion. Like when Shane was blaming Rick for the Sophia situation, he never even mentions that he at least went after her, tried something, etc. That it was his grenade that saved the group at the cdc, that it was him who brought the bulk of the guns from the police station... The discussion is just that "did so, did not" over and over.


Same for the discussion in the last episode. It was pretty much the same argument, repeated over and over for 40 minutes. Dale "we will become like them," others "we need to be safe." No one elaborates on anything. No ones mentions to Dale "hey, this kid was shooting on us, and is part of a large group that, by his own admission, rapes, steals and abandons people, even teenage girls."

Now, I don't expect epic debates or anything. But if 40 minutes of an hour long episode are going to be about the same discussion over and over, at least the dialogue could move on from the initial point.

I think it will be a lot better next season. The old director had this annoying slower burner type of method and everything happened at a snail's pace. The new director, whos episodes started playing after the midseason break, seems to have things go at a must fasted pace.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 08, 2012, 07:34:11 AM
I would have to think that the rules of zombie-world go something like:

1) Don't walk off into the foggy woods at night by yourself
2) Don't make out with a zombie
3) Don't get fat

From what i know, Dale broke at least two of those golden rules.  He had to go.

In other news, what's the deal with T-Dawg? That guy is useless in the show.  At least he used to provide comic relief like when he almost killed himself on a car door.
(TP)

Yeah, and always run when you hear the creepy music start to play.

I was thinking what a boon the Walking Dead world would be to creatures like vultures and crows ... I mean, they wouldn't even have to search for food anymore, just jump on the shoulder of a "walker" and eat while you enjoy the ride.

(Talk about drive-thru's!)

And seriously, you could see the (what are they calling the big groups of walkers now ... herds?) coming from miles away, cuz the carrion-eating critters would be making a heckuva racket!

A kosher world gone mad.

And why are there so many of them? Surely if you get killed by one because they're so hungry, and the rest join the feast, wouldn't the musculature and soft-tissues be destroyed, without enough left to support and ambulate a human skeleton?

There are all these walkers with decaying skin and a bite or two taken out of them, but you'd think there wouldn't be enough flesh left to work with, and the cycle would stop pretty quickly for lack of enough necrotic tissue for the poor hungry things to devour.

And aren't they decomposing on the inside, too? So howtheheck do they process the carrion they seem to need so much of, and why are they all so thin?

With all the available mortiferous cuisine around, there should be at least one or two that are a bit rotund.

I'm beginning to think this zombie lifestyle isn't quite as carefree and capricious as it is so often portrayed ... it must worry them to pieces.

I'm just glad Danny Kaye isn't around to see this stuff ... can you imagine the taunting he'd have to endure with what would surely become his present-day nickname?

(He'd be the perfect guest-star, though).


;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 08, 2012, 07:36:56 AM
Carl should have been eaten , he deserved it. 

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 08, 2012, 09:55:13 PM
Here's my question:  Do the zombies hands turn into eagle talons or lion claws or something?  Dale's guts got ripped open like he was made of cellophane.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 11, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
....Wow...

For the first 20 minutes or so of the episode I was worried it would be boring filler like the other one was...Once Shane walked in the shed with Randall Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. got intense.

Probably my favorite episode of the series.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 11, 2012, 10:43:03 PM
the wide shot at the end of the episode was pretty ominous, huh
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 11, 2012, 10:49:24 PM
the wide shot at the end of the episode was pretty ominous, huh

Can't wait for next Sunday.

I hope they will extend next season a few more episodes. I'm already loving the new director, (The episodes he directed came after the midseason break).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 12, 2012, 04:22:23 AM
this one was a trip
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: TheGreenMonster on March 12, 2012, 04:48:51 AM
The evolution of The Walker  :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 12, 2012, 07:13:11 AM
The evolution of The Walker  :o
the instomatic walker
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celticslove on March 12, 2012, 08:44:04 AM
The evolution of The Walker  :o

T-Dawg looks like Antoine. ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 12, 2012, 01:52:58 PM
after watchin it again

this ep is the most ive heard this brotha talk in awhile
he prolly next to get dun in and im surprised he lasted this long...

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 12, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
The show has certainly improved in the past few weeks. More action and quicker pacing.

The new directer is definitely a part of that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on March 12, 2012, 02:47:29 PM
I'm confused as to why shane and the prisoner turned to walkers despite not being bitten or scratched by walkers. Yet when they shot the dudes in the bar they  didn't turn.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 12, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
I'm confused as to why shane and the prisoner turned to walkers despite not being bitten or scratched by walkers. Yet when they shot the dudes in the bar they  didn't turn.
I think that was the whole point of those flashes Shane had after dying. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JBone4eva on March 12, 2012, 04:05:23 PM
I'm confused as to why shane and the prisoner turned to walkers despite not being bitten or scratched by walkers. Yet when they shot the dudes in the bar they  didn't turn.

I think tt could be due to blood mixing with walkers from the knives.  Randall was cut by Daryl with the same knife he's killed walkers with in the farm house when he was pseudo torturing him, and Shane was killed by a knife used prior on walkers.

Its either that or its gonna come to light that the sickness is airborne.

So long as my man Glen doesn't get offed, I'm good  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on March 12, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
I think the "disease" is in everyone - so everyone who dies will become a walker. Rick head tapped the Philly boys in the bar I think - hence no walking.

My best guess is the show's theory of the disease is: a bite or scratch will infect you and kill you, but the airborne version will only infect you and lay dormant.

Makes the whole idea of dealing with things that much harder.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on March 12, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
I'm confused as to why shane and the prisoner turned to walkers despite not being bitten or scratched by walkers. Yet when they shot the dudes in the bar they  didn't turn.

I think tt could be due to blood mixing with walkers from the knives.  Randall was cut by Daryl with the same knife he's killed walkers with in the farm house when he was pseudo torturing him, and Shane was killed by a knife used prior on walkers.

Its either that or its gonna come to light that the sickness is airborne.

So long as my man Glen doesn't get offed, I'm good  ;D

My thought was that now anyone who dies for any reason now becomes a walker.

I gotta say tho i really gotta stay away from this thread, too many spoilers. I found out after looking at this thread that Shane was going to die and i wasn't pleased.

Shane and Darryl are the only two who i particularly like in that group.  I'm p---ed.  Shane-o-matic was the only thing keeping those fools alive.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: edwardjkasche on March 12, 2012, 04:37:37 PM
Quote
I'm confused as to why shane and the prisoner turned to walkers despite not being bitten or scratched by walkers. Yet when they shot the dudes in the bar they  didn't turn.

During the bar scene, Rick shot both in the head.  It wasn't made abundantly clear, and Rick made no mention of it, but if you paid close attention you'd notice.  The first guy he shot directly in the head.  The second guy he shot twice in the chest and then walked up and shot him in the head, very deliberately.  And, when Rick stabbed Shane (which was done to not attract attention), he waited near him, seemingly to watch to see if he'd turn.  When Carl showed up, Rick got distracted, but didn't seem surprised to see Shane get up and get shot.

The comics are very clear in showing that everyone who dies, turns, regardless of how they died. 

My belief is that this fact is one likely remaining possibility for what Dr. Jenner whispered to Rick during the final episode of Season 1, prior to the group leaving the CDC.

At first, I thought Dr. Jenner told him that the military base - Fort Benning - was completely wiped out, but Rick still seems to want to go there, so that can't be it.  Second, I thought that Dr. Jenner told Rick that Lori was pregnant, but Rick was genuinely shocked to find out, so that can't be it either.  Rick continues to hold out hope that they'll all survive this mess, so Dr. Jenner couldn't have told him that there is absolutely no cure and everyone will eventually die.

For better or worse, the 'everyone who dies, turns' idea is here to stay.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: edwardjkasche on March 12, 2012, 04:47:05 PM
My concern over the Shane/Rick stand-off is that Shane led Rick all the way through the forest and into a field within eyesight of the farmhouse.  Why would Shane bring him all the way back within view of the farmhouse to shoot him?  Wouldn't shooting him in the woods be better, especially if his lie was going to be that the escaped prisoner got the drop on them and shot him?

Also, how in the hell does Carl keep sneaking off without being seen by someone?  He's the only child present and you'd think someone would keep an eye on him.  He repeatedly sneaks away and no one seems to notice.  Too much of the recent narrative results from Carl sneaking away and then getting involved in something.

Finally, other than for the sake of rounding out the season, there is no reason for why the local walkers waited until Carl's shooting of Shane to mobilize and move toward the farmhouse.  This group has been shooting target practice, arguing, driving cars, doing construction, screaming at the top of their lungs, and walking around in the open for weeks.  Only now do the walkers move in???  It's much the same as the cattle situation.  I leaned over to my fiancee weeks ago and said the cattle were basically a smorgasbord for the walkers.  But, it took the walkers a few weeks to figure this out.  Now, they're eating cattle left and right.

In my opinion, the group has been too cavalier about the walkers all season long.  Still sleeping in tents with one old man on lookout all night...  Walking around and shouting.  Fighting and driving cars everywhere.  Firing target practice within eyesight of the farmhouse...  It's about time the walkers came.

Share your thoughts.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 12, 2012, 05:00:47 PM
My concern over the Shane/Rick stand-off is that Shane led Rick all the way through the forest and into a field within eyesight of the farmhouse.  Why would Shane bring him all the way back within view of the farmhouse to shoot him?  Wouldn't shooting him in the woods be better, especially if his lie was going to be that the escaped prisoner got the drop on them and shot him?

Also, how in the hell does Carl keep sneaking off without being seen by someone?  He's the only child present and you'd think someone would keep an eye on him.  He repeatedly sneaks away and no one seems to notice.  Too much of the recent narrative results from Carl sneaking away and then getting involved in something.

Finally, other than for the sake of rounding out the season, there is no reason for why the local walkers waited until Carl's shooting of Shane to mobilize and move toward the farmhouse.  This group has been shooting target practice, arguing, driving cars, doing construction, screaming at the top of their lungs, and walking around in the open for weeks.  Only now do the walkers move in???  It's much the same as the cattle situation.  I leaned over to my fiancee weeks ago and said the cattle were basically a smorgasbord for the walkers.  But, it took the walkers a few weeks to figure this out.  Now, they're eating cattle left and right.
In my opinion, the group has been too cavalier about the walkers all season long.  Still sleeping in tents with one old man on lookout all night...  Walking around and shouting.  Fighting and driving cars everywhere.  Firing target practice within eyesight of the farmhouse...  It's about time the walkers came.

Share your thoughts.

Didn't they mention last night that the creek was drying up which was leading to more walkers showing up? It had been acting as a natural barrier.

That's why they started moving into the house.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 12, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
Hahahahaha - just happened across this:

WARNING WARNING WARNING - Graphic images and lyrics:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPNuV2kPzBw

"PC loadletter? What the <bleep> does that mean?"  ;D


Good episode last night - I knew Shane was on his way out as soon as Lori apologized to him - you don't want another main character clearing their conscience on you in a zombie show.  Really liked how they handled the whole buildup and confrontation, though.

Thoughts on who doesn't make it out next week?  Hershel and just about all the farm folk except Maggie seem like logical choices.  Carol's another good candidate.  Hoping they keep T-Dogg around so he can actually be a character again for a minute before he dies, but that wouldn't surprise me either.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 12, 2012, 05:19:26 PM
after watchin it again

this ep is the most ive heard this brotha talk in awhile
he prolly next to get dun in and im surprised he lasted this long...



man.. LoL...what me n the ol lady was say n last night. bro's usually all get in feed to monsters by now... thinks T will hang for a while yet...

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JBone4eva on March 12, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
after watchin it again

this ep is the most ive heard this brotha talk in awhile
he prolly next to get dun in and im surprised he lasted this long...




man.. LoL...what me n the ol lady was say n last night. bro's usually all get in feed to monsters by now... thinks T will hang for a while yet...



it defies conventional wisdom but I'd be willing to bet money that my man Glen is getting offed before T-Dog.  T-Dog has been so generic and useless the entire series I wanted him dead the whole first season (mainly because dudes name is "T-Dog"), but he's made it this far I'm hoping we get some back story on him.  But unfortunately I just have a feeling Glen is going to sacrifice himself for the good of the group and/or Maggie, he has a woman that loves him now so that means he'll almost have to die at some point.

I personally hope Andrea is knocked off next week, she's annoyed me from jump.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: snively on March 12, 2012, 06:23:43 PM
I almost cheered when Dale spilled his guts, but watching Shane get put down was tough.  Darryl is the last of the Mohicans as far as I'm concerned: tired of Rick vacillating between effete peacenik and stone-cold killer.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 12, 2012, 07:19:04 PM
I almost cheered when Dale spilled his guts, but watching Shane get put down was tough.  Darryl is the last of the Mohicans as far as I'm concerned: tired of Rick vacillating between effete peacenik and stone-cold killer.



Darryl is clearly my favorite character in the show, which is weird because his character didn't even exist in the comics. Curious to see what they do with him.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 12, 2012, 08:53:21 PM
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bet money that my man Glen is getting offed before T-Dog.  T-Dog has been so generic and useless the entire series I wanted him dead the whole first season (mainly because dudes name is "T-Dog"), but he's made it this far I'm hoping we get some back story on him. 

Not that they have followed the comics but Glen and Maggie got married in the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 12, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
after watchin it again

this ep is the most ive heard this brotha talk in awhile
he prolly next to get dun in and im surprised he lasted this long...



man.. LoL...what me n the ol lady was say n last night. bro's usually all get in feed to monsters by now... thinks T will hang for a while yet...



His character is so disappointing, especially since in the comics, the character who presumably inspired him (Tyrese) is maybe the most bad ass guy in the original group.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jdz101 on March 12, 2012, 09:19:41 PM
Carl needs to get feasted on by a horde of zombies.

I hate that kid so much.

I keep thinking this thread is about the celtics' big man rotation.  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 12, 2012, 09:55:02 PM
Darryl = Tyrese I think.  In a sense he performs the same role.  Zombie killing machine!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 12, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
Carl needs to get feasted on by a horde of zombies.

I hate that kid so much.

I keep thinking this thread is about the celtics' big man rotation.  ;D

It astonishes me that he can walks out in the woods in the middle of the night...in a zombie apocalypse, without supervision.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 12, 2012, 10:24:02 PM
Carl needs to get feasted on by a horde of zombies.

I hate that kid so much.

I keep thinking this thread is about the celtics' big man rotation.  ;D

It astonishes me that he can walks out in the woods in the middle of the night...in a zombie apocalypse, without supervision.
kids these days...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on March 13, 2012, 09:27:24 AM
My concern over the Shane/Rick stand-off is that Shane led Rick all the way through the forest and into a field within eyesight of the farmhouse.  Why would Shane bring him all the way back within view of the farmhouse to shoot him?  Wouldn't shooting him in the woods be better, especially if his lie was going to be that the escaped prisoner got the drop on them and shot him?

-- snip ---
Taking this first point alone: I think Shane pulled the old suicide by cop routine. He didn't want to kill Rick. He had crossed too many lines to stay in the group, but he knew he had to kill the kid, he couldn't let him get back to his 30 man militia. So he forces Rick to kill him.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 13, 2012, 09:54:19 AM
My concern over the Shane/Rick stand-off is that Shane led Rick all the way through the forest and into a field within eyesight of the farmhouse.  Why would Shane bring him all the way back within view of the farmhouse to shoot him?  Wouldn't shooting him in the woods be better, especially if his lie was going to be that the escaped prisoner got the drop on them and shot him?

-- snip ---
Taking this first point alone: I think Shane pulled the old suicide by cop routine. He didn't want to kill Rick. He had crossed too many lines to stay in the group, but he knew he had to kill the kid, he couldn't let him get back to his 30 man militia. So he forces Rick to kill him.

Yeah, Shane switched pretty fast from "I'm going to kill you" to putting his gun away, challenging Rick to kill him, and telling him off about his family.  He seemed pretty torn. 

Also thought it was interesting that there was a quick "zombie flash" when Shane saw Randall had tried to break out of his cuffs.  It seems like they're implying that not only is everyone infected with the zombie virus, but that it can affect them even when alive.  Which would explain a LOT about the characters' actions.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: edwardjkasche on March 13, 2012, 12:05:12 PM
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Darryl is clearly my favorite character in the show, which is weird because his character didn't even exist in the comics. Curious to see what they do with him.

I am expecting them to keep him around into next season when they hopefully re-introduce Merle, sans one hand, as part of the Governor's crew.

Everyone knows the first episode of next season is titled 'The Governor', right?  I don't want to issue any spoilers here.

If Merle is indeed a part of the Governor's crew, then it will add an interesting quandary for Darryl's character.  Does Darryl revert to being like his brother, joining the Governor's crew, or does Darryl stick up for his his group and continue to protect Rick, Carol, etc?

Either way, I think Darryl will eventually meet a violent death.  I can only hope that it's an altruistic one.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 13, 2012, 12:05:54 PM
Shane did not suicide I think.  He viewed himself a harder and better man than Rick and wanted to prove he could beat him.  Rick knife thing was a trick that he didn't see coming.  He watched the gun and didn't see the knife.  Actually inside of 21 feet statistic state the knife is deadlier than a gun but most do not know that.  Shane was a jerk who happened to be a good survivor there was nothing noble in his acts.  Everything was able Shane in the end and getting Lori's love.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 13, 2012, 12:53:50 PM
Rick...snookered Shane....BIG TIME  ;D....Shane had the draw on Rick and Shane was clearly "quite mad" . Rick had to kill him and not get killed himself in the process.

Shane failed to kill Rick , had tons of opportunity , he choose his timming poorly, and should have shot Rick in the back of the head walking though the woods.  I think Shane wanted to prove once and for all he was the better man with a final fight and never suspected Rick would sucker him in .

Gonna miss Shane and his antics , he kept the intensity high all the time... never a dull moment with Shane.  Always the trouble maker....  Although Ricks wife is a close 2nd......she was the one that pushed Shane into being a looney toon.

Here is to hoping Lori becomes WALKER HASH .
 



Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 13, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Carl needs to get feasted on by a horde of zombies.

I hate that kid so much.

I keep thinking this thread is about the celtics' big man rotation.  ;D

It astonishes me that he can walks out in the woods in the middle of the night...in a zombie apocalypse, without supervision.
Can only hope he becomes an appetizer for a zombie party.  can't stand the kid.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 13, 2012, 08:49:42 PM
If it follows the comics Lori and Carl survive for a bit.  Show doesn't always follow the comics though.  I think they will survive the finale.  I seen a website with pics from the finale but I don't want to spoil it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 13, 2012, 09:20:22 PM
If it follows the comics Lori and Carl survive for a bit. 


naw man

dont spoil it
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: TheGreenMonster on March 14, 2012, 06:10:24 AM
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 14, 2012, 07:04:59 AM
Rest assured the show is different from the comics.  Shane died in issue six of the comics but lasted to the 17th show.   There is no Darryl in the comics.  So anything could happen.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: chambers on March 14, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Love this show.
I wonder who the new group villain will be?
Are we looking at the brother with one hand coming back to stir things up ?
I can't see anyone else within the group being as disruptive as Shane other than the redneck.

It's about time they run into another surviving group and the hostage guys friends will come looking for him or he'll find them  and bring them to the farm soon enough.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 14, 2012, 09:29:08 AM
Love this show.
I wonder who the new group villain will be?

Based upon the comic and announced season 3 casting, I think we'll all like the new villain.  I won't spoil it for you, though. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 14, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
T-dawg already said the name though if you were listening.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 14, 2012, 07:29:30 PM
T-dawg already said the name though if you were listening.

Yeah, although I don't know if that was a direct reference, or just kind of an "Easter egg" put in there by the writers.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 14, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
I think it was put in there for those who read the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 14, 2012, 08:24:31 PM
whats the easter egg?


or tell me what part and ill fast fo  up to it
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 15, 2012, 11:05:40 PM
whats the easter egg?


or tell me what part and ill fast fo  up to it

It's the part when T-Dog is going to let "Randy" out of the barn.  He gives the name of next season's villain.

There's some debate on whether it's just an (intentional) coincidence, or whether T-Dog is being literal.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 15, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
i remember  t dog unlockin the barn and i think the microwave went off and my carne asada burrito was done..so i got up and missed it..


i gotta see wassup
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 18, 2012, 01:40:17 PM
Can't wait for tonight! Producers are hinting that someone will die in tonight's episode as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 18, 2012, 01:46:11 PM
FYI: (Seems like that abbreviation should be blocked somehow). There's a marathon of consecuative past episodes on AMC which started at 11AM and leads up to the finale tonight.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ManUp on March 18, 2012, 02:13:21 PM
Can't wait for tonight! Producers are hinting that someone will die in tonight's episode as well.

My guess is Glenn.

I just get the feeling, it feels like it's been building towards that with him. Hope I'm not, hope it's T-Dawg  :P
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2012, 02:14:07 PM
Can't wait for tonight! Producers are hinting that someone will die in tonight's episode as well.

My guess is Glenn.

I just get the feeling, it feels like it's been building towards that with him. Hope I'm not, hope it's T-Dawg  :P

Hershel?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Finkelskyhook on March 18, 2012, 02:43:24 PM
I thought this was a Jermaine O'Neal thread...But I should have known better.  The only walking he'll do is out the door when he gets bought out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 18, 2012, 04:50:04 PM
Can't wait for tonight! Producers are hinting that someone will die in tonight's episode as well.

My guess is Glenn.

I just get the feeling, it feels like it's been building towards that with him. Hope I'm not, hope it's T-Dawg  :P

Hershel?

^This^ In the previews for the next episode he said he was going down with the farm...Others from his family might die as well...Any of his kids really. I could see Maggie staying behind and dying or something dramatic like that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 18, 2012, 05:22:07 PM
i remember  t dog unlockin the barn and i think the microwave went off and my carne asada burrito was done..so i got up and missed it..


i gotta see wassup

a man's gotta have his carne asada when the nuker says it's ready
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: RedSpades on March 18, 2012, 06:21:13 PM
I don't think Hershel or Glen is going to die.

Honestly, I would put money on the nobodies dying tonight. The 'nobodies' would be (had to do a bit of Google searching here): Jimmy, Patricia, maybe Beth (one of them gotta survive lol). I doubt they will kill T-Dog because it would seriously be an insult to the actor who was COMPLETELY useless this season and I believe the writers have something big planned for T-Dog when Merle is back in Season 3.

What I think is going to happen is that the zombie horde is going to ambush the farm and they have no choice but to leave the farm, which I hope will lead them to a new location. I've read the graphic novels so I'm expecting them to run into a prison and that'd be the end of the episode.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 18, 2012, 06:32:09 PM
Agree with Redspades those three will die. I predict the group will be splintered and Michonne will be introduced.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 18, 2012, 07:13:58 PM
I don't think Hershel or Glen is going to die.

Honestly, I would put money on the nobodies dying tonight. The 'nobodies' would be (had to do a bit of Google searching here): Jimmy, Patricia, maybe Beth (one of them gotta survive lol). I doubt they will kill T-Dog because it would seriously be an insult to the actor who was COMPLETELY useless this season and I believe the writers have something big planned for T-Dog when Merle is back in Season 3.

What I think is going to happen is that the zombie horde is going to ambush the farm and they have no choice but to leave the farm, which I hope will lead them to a new location. I've read the graphic novels so I'm expecting them to run into a prison and that'd be the end of the episode.



Yeah, no one would care if those 3 died...

Also, try to put spoiler tags man. A lot of the stuff you discussed with Merle and the prison is semi-spoiler material.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: RedSpades on March 18, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
I don't think Hershel or Glen is going to die.

Honestly, I would put money on the nobodies dying tonight. The 'nobodies' would be (had to do a bit of Google searching here): Jimmy, Patricia, maybe Beth (one of them gotta survive lol). I doubt they will kill T-Dog because it would seriously be an insult to the actor who was COMPLETELY useless this season and I believe the writers have something big planned for T-Dog when Merle is back in Season 3.

What I think is going to happen is that the zombie horde is going to ambush the farm and they have no choice but to leave the farm, which I hope will lead them to a new location. I've read the graphic novels so I'm expecting them to run into a prison and that'd be the end of the episode.



Yeah, no one would care if those 3 died...

Also, try to put spoiler tags man. A lot of the stuff you discussed with Merle and the prison is semi-spoiler material.

Sorry about that! It's basically all speculation. I have no idea if Merle will be back for Season 3 but I assume he will be just because we haven't seen him this season (except for the hallucination that Daryl was having). As for the last one, I will admit that was a bit of a spoiler and I apologize for that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 18, 2012, 09:28:45 PM
Reminds me of the scene from "Gone With The Wind" when Rhett is saving Melanie, the baby, Miss Prissy, and Scarlet from the burning of Atlanta and takeover by the Union Troops ... almost Identical shot with the burning barn behind, except the horse carriage in the foreground.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 18, 2012, 10:02:29 PM
Was that a prison? (The perfect defensible sight, right?) Rick has finally lost it ... saw that coming.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 18, 2012, 10:28:41 PM
I thought this was a Jermaine O'Neal thread...But I should have known better.  The only walking he'll do is out the door when he gets bought out.


TP, high five, lol. Truer words have never been written on this forum.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 18, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
I don't think Hershel or Glen is going to die.

Honestly, I would put money on the nobodies dying tonight. The 'nobodies' would be (had to do a bit of Google searching here): Jimmy, Patricia, maybe Beth (one of them gotta survive lol). I doubt they will kill T-Dog because it would seriously be an insult to the actor who was COMPLETELY useless this season and I believe the writers have something big planned for T-Dog when Merle is back in Season 3.

What I think is going to happen is that the zombie horde is going to ambush the farm and they have no choice but to leave the farm, which I hope will lead them to a new location. I've read the graphic novels so I'm expecting them to run into a prison and that'd be the end of the episode.



Yeah, no one would care if those 3 died...

Also, try to put spoiler tags man. A lot of the stuff you discussed with Merle and the prison is semi-spoiler material.

Sorry about that! It's basically all speculation. I have no idea if Merle will be back for Season 3 but I assume he will be just because we haven't seen him this season (except for the hallucination that Daryl was having). As for the last one, I will admit that was a bit of a spoiler and I apologize for that.

Ah, no worries man. I've already had most of everything spoiled. It's one of those things where you can't watch the show without having comic book details spoiled.

Anyways, I thought it was a pretty good season finale. Glad we got to see Michonne at the end.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: RedSpades on March 18, 2012, 10:58:13 PM
Was that a prison? (The perfect defensible sight, right?) Rick has finally lost it ... saw that coming.

Yep, it was the prison.

Season 3 is going to get good now. The Prison was the most amazing part of the graphic novels and I can assure all of you (that haven't read the novels) that you are in for a REAL GOOD treat.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 18, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
Was that a prison? (The perfect defensible sight, right?) Rick has finally lost it ... saw that coming.

Yep, it was the prison.

Season 3 is going to get good now. The Prison was the most amazing part of the graphic novels and I can assure all of you (that haven't read the novels) that you are in for a REAL GOOD treat.
Cool, (here's your first Tommy Point!) ... thanks, man, and thanks for not spoiling anything - haven't read the comics yet.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 19, 2012, 05:54:27 AM
rick mentally is doin pretty good considering all that weight he was/is carrying.

it is gonna get much darker.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 19, 2012, 06:59:29 AM
Prison is in the comics, think about it.  It has walls, weapons and food and is pretty defensible.  I think they used it in resident evil too.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on March 19, 2012, 10:43:17 AM
Prison is in the comics, think about it.  It has walls, weapons and food and is pretty defensible.  I think they used it in resident evil too.

Suprised Herchel hasn't brought up the prison all this time.  I guess he's been pretty out of the loop during this whole apocalypse, but with it being so close to the farm you'd think he would've mentioned it as a possible destination for supplies or something like that...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jdz101 on March 19, 2012, 11:11:25 AM
Here's me hoping Rick shoots his kid in the face. I hate that stupid kid in that stupid sheriffs hat.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: snively on March 19, 2012, 11:33:56 AM
The drop-off in quality from the AMC stable (The Walking Dead, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, maybe the Killing) to the rest of basic cable's offerings is enormous. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 19, 2012, 11:44:30 AM
The drop-off in quality from the AMC stable (The Walking Dead, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, maybe the Killing) to the rest of basic cable's offerings is enormous. 
very true.  there's not much on basic cable in terms of original programming that I watch.   Sons of Anarchy is terrific though.  So was Rescue Me.  FX does ok with it's original programming.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 19, 2012, 11:46:27 AM
The drop-off in quality from the AMC stable (The Walking Dead, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, maybe the Killing) to the rest of basic cable's offerings is enormous. 
very true.  there's not much on basic cable in terms of original programming that I watch.   Sons of Anarchy is terrific though.  So was Rescue Me.  FX does ok with it's original programming.

Don't forget Justified.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 19, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
Prison is in the comics, think about it.  It has walls, weapons and food and is pretty defensible.  I think they used it in resident evil too.

Suprised Herchel hasn't brought up the prison all this time.  I guess he's been pretty out of the loop during this whole apocalypse, but with it being so close to the farm you'd think he would've mentioned it as a possible destination for supplies or something like that...

He did mention he "knew some places he could hide out" when he offered to stay behind and wait for everyone to show up.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 19, 2012, 11:53:57 AM
Very intrigued by the hooded guy with the armless zombies in tow.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 19, 2012, 11:56:32 AM
great second season of Walking Dead (though the marketing is getting a little nauseating).

...now bring on GAME OF THRONES!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Assassin70 on March 19, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
Very intrigued by the hooded guy with the armless zombies in tow.

Not a dude.

Actually I wont spoil it for you any further.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: snively on March 19, 2012, 12:43:55 PM
Very intrigued by the hooded guy with the armless zombies in tow.

I actually thought that was a little lame.  A ninja dominatrix with zombie slaves?  Not the right vibe for this show.

Reminded me of the fateful moment in the awful Jurassic Park 3, when jungle boy came to the rescue with his coconut gas grenades.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: albas89 on March 19, 2012, 02:01:25 PM
Very intrigued by the hooded guy with the armless zombies in tow.

Her name is Michonne, she's a character in the comic book... for more you gotta read the comic book!

Great season finale with Michonne's appearance and the group approaching the prison!! ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: greensamurai on March 19, 2012, 02:38:27 PM
I'm kind of glad Rick finally stepped up and shut everyone up. Everyone talks a big game but when he told them to leave, no one did.

I honestly won't mind if Lori or Carl dies. I don't get Lori at all, just a couple episodes ago she told Rick he was probably going to have to kill Shane to "protect whats his" and then he kills Shane after Shane was planning to kill him and she freaks out. I don't get it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: snively on March 19, 2012, 02:51:20 PM
I don't get Lori at all, just a couple episodes ago she told Rick he was probably going to have to kill Shane to "protect whats his" and then he kills Shane after Shane was planning to kill him and she freaks out. I don't get it.

Women!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Shoot the J on March 19, 2012, 02:56:55 PM
I couldn't tell if she was mad that Rick killed Shane, or that he allowed Carl to shoot Shane the walker.

Lori is the perfect carrier for that demon seed she has growing inside her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 19, 2012, 03:01:48 PM
The drop-off in quality from the AMC stable (The Walking Dead, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, maybe the Killing) to the rest of basic cable's offerings is enormous. 
very true.  there's not much on basic cable in terms of original programming that I watch.   Sons of Anarchy is terrific though.  So was Rescue Me.  FX does ok with it's original programming.

Don't forget Justified.
I liked that too when it started but haven't kept up with it.  but you're right, that was good as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 19, 2012, 03:13:04 PM
I don't get Lori at all, just a couple episodes ago she told Rick he was probably going to have to kill Shane to "protect whats his" and then he kills Shane after Shane was planning to kill him and she freaks out. I don't get it.

Women!
yeah, there's no pleasing them.   ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 19, 2012, 05:23:55 PM
Very intrigued by the hooded guy with the armless zombies in tow.

Her name is Michonne, she's a character in the comic book... for more you gotta read the comic book!

Great season finale with Michonne's appearance and the group approaching the prison!! ;D

I'm in the middle of the second one.  Will look out for her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 19, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
I'm kind of glad Rick finally stepped up and shut everyone up. Everyone talks a big game but when he told them to leave, no one did.

I honestly won't mind if Lori or Carl dies. I don't get Lori at all, just a couple episodes ago she told Rick he was probably going to have to kill Shane to "protect whats his" and then he kills Shane after Shane was planning to kill him and she freaks out. I don't get it.

Yeh, I thought it was more about Carl, but I also thought she was going to tell rick that the baby was Shane's until he dropped the Carl shooting bomb on her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 19, 2012, 05:32:12 PM
I'm kind of glad Rick finally stepped up and shut everyone up. Everyone talks a big game but when he told them to leave, no one did.

I honestly won't mind if Lori or Carl dies. I don't get Lori at all, just a couple episodes ago she told Rick he was probably going to have to kill Shane to "protect whats his" and then he kills Shane after Shane was planning to kill him and she freaks out. I don't get it.

Yeh, I thought it was more about Carl, but I also thought she was going to tell rick that the baby was Shane's until he dropped the Carl shooting bomb on her.

I think a lot of it probably springs from Lori's own guilt.  If she doesn't sleep with Shane, there's a chance that the tension between Rick is avoided, Shane is still alive, and Carl doesn't have to live with the guilt of having "killed" Shane's corpse.  I think her reaction is that irrational anger you get when you know you're the one who screwed up, but you lash out at others.  Couple that with mama bear protective instinct and Rick's terrible explanation skills, and you have an angry woman.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 19, 2012, 05:55:57 PM
I suspect one of the surprizes we get next season is finding out

Who da baby daddy is. ???

I'm thinking its Merles love child.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 20, 2012, 10:44:04 PM
great second season of Walking Dead (though the marketing is getting a little nauseating).

...now bring on GAME OF THRONES!

True Blood
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: TheGreenMonster on March 23, 2012, 08:51:57 AM
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on July 03, 2012, 01:59:53 AM
Season Three Premiere Weekend coming up ... marathon session of the first two series, (but then we have to wait until October for the premiere ... ugh!).
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Post by: Bahku on September 13, 2012, 12:38:34 AM
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Post by: Bahku on September 28, 2012, 12:56:20 AM
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Post by: Bahku on October 06, 2012, 03:19:45 AM
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Post by: Bahku on October 12, 2012, 09:11:00 PM

Sunday - Sunday - Sunday! October 14, two days, 48 hours ... looking forward to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShQz68Zkb3Y


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 12, 2012, 09:32:11 PM
cool beans!

thanks for the reminder
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Valentines_at_Popeyes on October 12, 2012, 11:06:23 PM
If you like the show I highly recommend the graphic novels.  The comics are a bit grittier and depressing IMO where the show has more of a fun factor.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on October 27, 2012, 10:58:02 PM
Agreed.  The comics are much more compelling than the TV show.  I'd recommend it even if you're not into comics.  It's very well done.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 28, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
well i didnt read the comics..

this show is the bomb
after 3 seasons and how each person has changed..

tonight ep..?..

dang

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 04, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
wow

just wow!!!!




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Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 04, 2012, 09:52:53 PM
brotha got bit...

why t-dog why!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLB_CwJaS8g


but it seems we got a new one....
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 04, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
On  of the best episodes to date, IMO ... clearly he couldn't shoot his mother, and she'll turn up later as a walker for Rick to deal with.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 04, 2012, 10:04:55 PM
On  of the best episodes to date, IMO ... clearly he couldn't shoot his mother, and she'll turn up later as a walker for Rick to deal with.


i thought the same thing ku
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 04, 2012, 10:15:55 PM
On  of the best episodes to date, IMO ... clearly he couldn't shoot his mother, and she'll turn up later as a walker for Rick to deal with.

you don't think Junior learned his lesson out in the swamp?

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 04, 2012, 10:38:12 PM
argggrr...I'm hurt n ....T-Dog was my fav  :'(   

black folk can't catch no break..
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 04, 2012, 10:38:51 PM
On  of the best episodes to date, IMO ... clearly he couldn't shoot his mother, and she'll turn up later as a walker for Rick to deal with.

I doubt that for two reasons - one, Carl has been pretty cold-blooded all season and remembered his father telling him to do the right thing.

The other reason I don't think Lori will come back later - one word: pants.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 04, 2012, 10:47:03 PM
On  of the best episodes to date, IMO ... clearly he couldn't shoot his mother, and she'll turn up later as a walker for Rick to deal with.

I doubt that for two reasons - one, Carl has been pretty cold-blooded all season and remembered his father telling him to do the right thing.

The other reason I don't think Lori will come back later - one word: pants.
Good point, though he may have stayed to put pants on her ... there's a reason they didn't show him killing her, I'm sure.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 04, 2012, 10:58:51 PM
On  of the best episodes to date, IMO ... clearly he couldn't shoot his mother, and she'll turn up later as a walker for Rick to deal with.

I doubt that for two reasons - one, Carl has been pretty cold-blooded all season and remembered his father telling him to do the right thing.

The other reason I don't think Lori will come back later - one word: pants.
Good point, though he may have stayed to put pants on her ... there's a reason they didn't show him killing her, I'm sure.
Just watching the replay, and the shirt she had on was long enough to cover, almost like a mid-length skirt. My money's on her showing up again somehow. Losing T-Dog sucked, too ... I want my tciket money back!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 04, 2012, 11:01:14 PM
T-Dog is on Talking Dead, for those who may not know.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 04, 2012, 11:02:03 PM
from next week ep preview
he went back in with the ax

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 05, 2012, 12:09:16 AM
Really impressed with IronE Singleton, (T-Dog), seems like a genuinely appreciative and humble guy, so far unaffected by the Hollywood ego bug ... look forward to his next roles.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 05, 2012, 12:26:53 AM
RIP Theodore (T) Dogg...you were too good for this world. 


Apparently Singleton (T-Dogg) played football at Georgia with Hines Ward, and Ward is supposed to show up as a zombie at some point this year.  Wonder if it happened this episode or if it's coming later.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 05, 2012, 12:47:56 AM
I'm now thinking that Lori's drink may have been drugged ... in that scene they make four references to her drink. Hmmm ... just an idea.

Thanks, FWF, didn't know that ... we'll have to watch for Hines later on.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 05, 2012, 01:07:24 AM
I'm now thinking that Lori's drink may have been drugged ... in that scene they make four references to her drink. Hmmm ... just an idea.

Do you mean Andrea?  Yeah something's weird with the drinks - they mentioned how that scientist guy "made the best tea" about a half-dozen times last episode, and I'm pretty sure Andrea had some while Michonne passed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 05, 2012, 05:56:40 AM
Great episode, I look for Oscar to fill T-Dog's shoes, the guy who didn't shoot Rick.  It will be hard to top this episode in the season finale though, wow, I know Laurie was coming and to be honest I hated her character.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 05, 2012, 06:21:47 AM
argggrr...I'm hurt n ....T-Dog was my fav  :'(   

black folk can't catch no break..

come on now

a couple of decades ago he wouldn't have lasted an episode

think of what a groundbreaker T Dog was

plus, he died a hero, not a chump
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 05, 2012, 06:23:13 AM
I'm now thinking that Lori's drink may have been drugged ... in that scene they make four references to her drink. Hmmm ... just an idea.

Do you mean Andrea?  Yeah something's weird with the drinks - they mentioned how that scientist guy "made the best tea" about a half-dozen times last episode, and I'm pretty sure Andrea had some while Michonne passed.

heads in the jars juice?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 05, 2012, 07:21:47 AM
dem crazies drinking zombee blood   :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 05, 2012, 08:18:53 AM
argggrr...I'm hurt n ....T-Dog was my fav  :'(   

black folk can't catch no break..

come on now

a couple of decades ago he wouldn't have lasted an episode

think of what a groundbreaker T Dog was

plus, he died a hero, not a chump

The only disappointment I have regarding T-Dog is that I was hoping he was going to take on a certain role (Tyreese) from the comics this season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 05, 2012, 08:26:26 AM
RIP TDogg.

Sacrificed himself for the good of the other.

And man, I can't imagine the horror of a son shooting his mom in the head, but it ha to be done. I won't miss Lori though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on November 05, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Lori had become a total drag. See you later. I'm pretty sure Jr splattered her brains. He knows what's up. Wondering what happened to Carol...

Something in the drink, but I think Andrea just likes Maybury - she's loyal to Michonne for saving her and probably doesn't want to lose her only friend. Wonder if all the smoke and noise at the prison is enough to get the Governors attention.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on November 05, 2012, 09:35:12 AM
My wife was crying her eyes out after watching last nights episode. I have to admit, Rick's reaction to finding out his wife was dead shook me a little myself. I imagine that's something like how I would react. I couldn't believe it went down like that.

What a good show. Between Breaking Bad and the Walking Dead, AMC is like the best network on TV right now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Amonkey on November 05, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
This episode is wow! Just wow! I have been thinking about it on my drive home, then all night, and this morning I woke up with a Walking Dead dream. This episode was off the wall.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jgod213 on November 05, 2012, 11:34:12 AM
This episode is wow! Just wow! I have been thinking about it on my drive home, then all night, and this morning I woke up with a Walking Dead dream. This episode was off the wall.

That whole scene with Carl helping to birth his sibling, witnessing his mother's fatal c-section, and then blasting her in the head is definitely the most traumatic sequence of events i've ever witnessed a character go thru on a TV show. Unreal.

Count me in with those who think Carl went thru with it.  I think the echo from the gunshot was more dramatic then if they had tried to actually show the headshot.  I'm thinking Rick goes back in to get the body and give a proper burial.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 11, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Great irony in the scene with Daryl, (who is approaching the top of my favorite characters list), with the baby, and bummed over Andrea quitting Michonne and her relationship with the Gov.

Still no sign of Lori's body ... plenty of evidence that she was eaten, but that just seems like more director "surpise" bait to me, especially with Rick alone inside the prison danger zone.

A couple of TPs to whoever correctly guesses who'e on the other end of the phone, (or is Rick hallucinating?) ... I'm torn between psychosis and a different kind of surprise, (I'll say later).

Good episode, with a bit of hope and a new incentive for survival, but also getting a tad darker on the flip side. Next week's should be a great one, connecting a few more dots.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: AshyLarry on November 12, 2012, 02:17:28 AM
Oh my wow, this season is incredible. Is the Governor on the phone? Someone new? Carol? Lori's ghost?
I hate how Michonne and Laurie had to disband like that, but they'll be back together for more shenanigans.

Also, Rick needs to calm freaking down. And the Governor's a bit of a psychopath. I CANNOT wait for the inevitable conflict between them.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 02, 2012, 11:26:30 PM

So the Gov makes Daryl and Merle fight to the death in the "arena", I'm thinking, tho at least Daryl will survive, (he's in the previews for the second half of the season, I think Andrea saves him somehow), thankfully, (def one of my favorite characters).

Interesting that they added a whole new group, as new characters are usually added one at-a-time, but it makes sense, as there can't be many people who survive on their own for long.

Really bummed that they got rid of Oscar so soon, as he was the voice of sanity and humanity, and bummed that Michonne didn't get to kill the Governor ... just really wanna see that guy gone, (despite his role as catalyst/antagonist).

Completely stinks that the next show isn't until February ... what happened to the "school schedule" television series schedules? (The good ol' days, I guess).

You know the Gov will now be on a mission for Michonne, as that's developing into the number one confrontational element ... hope Michonee gets to do the "Kill Bill" thing on him eventually.

I was going to start reading the comics, but I think it's more enjoyable this way for now, and I'll do that after this ends, (don't have the spare time to read anything right now anyway).

I guess, (from hints they dropped), that Tyreese will be a major role, so that's something to look forward to ... like his whole energy.

Worried about Rick's decreasing role and transition into his own rather insane world, (his son, too) ... I would have trouble staying interested if he was killed off or made impotent in his role.

Wondering where Carl will end up emotionally, though he promised his mom he'd stay on the good side, and he's got his little sister to take care of, (that whole thing seems to indicate a decreased role for Rick, too ... really hope that doesn't happen, as he is the core of this whole story, IMO.

Andrea is a totally gullible sap, to the point that I don't care much anymore what happens to her. Seems her emotional needs easily overcame her common sense and intelligence ... go figure.

Great episode ... come on, Sunday, February 10, 9PM!

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 02, 2012, 11:59:38 PM

So the Gov makes Daryl and Merle fight to the death in the "arena", I'm thinking, tho at least Daryl will survive, (he's in the previews for the second half of the season, I think Andrea saves him somehow), thankfully, (def one of my favorite characters).

Interesting that they added a whole new group, as new characters are usually added one at-a-time, but it makes sense, as there can't be many people who survive on their own for long.

Really bummed that they got rid of Oscar so soon, as he was the voice of sanity and humanity, and bummed that Michonne didn't get to kill the Governor ... just really wanna see that guy gone, (despite his role as catalyst/antagonist).

Completely stinks that the next show isn't until February ... what happened to the "school schedule" television series schedules? (The good ol' days, I guess).

You know the Gov will now be on a mission for Michonne, as that's developing into the number one confrontational element ... hope Michonee gets to do the "Kill Bill" thing on him eventually.

I was going to start reading the comics, but I think it's more enjoyable this way for now, and I'll do that after this ends, (don't have the spare time to read anything right now anyway).

I guess, (from hints they dropped), that Tyreese will be a major role, so that's something to look forward to ... like his whole energy.

Worried about Rick's decreasing role and transition into his own rather insane world, (his son, too) ... I would have trouble staying interested if he was killed off or made impotent in his role.

Wondering where Carl will end up emotionally, though he promised his mom hed stay on the good side, and he's got his little sister to take care of, (that whole thing seems to indicate a decreased role for Rick, too ... really hoex that doesn't happen, as he is the core of this whole story, IMO.

Andrea is a totally gullible sap, to the point that I don't care much anymore what happens to her. Seems her emotional needs easily overcame her common sense and intelligence ... go figure.

Great episode ... come on, Sunday, February 10, 9PM!

Good thinking with the arena bit. From the episode nine preview, though you see the Govnah meandering around amongst smoke in the same general area as when this episode ended.

I'm guessing since Rick and friends still haven't left the general area of the town, they go back for Daryl. Michonne kind of alludes to this, too. They'll go run in and start throwing some left over smoke grenades and rescue Daryl... And now I'm guessing Rick won't allow himself to leave Merle chained to a post again and ends up saving him as well.

That seems like a good possibility. I'd create a ton of tension and dynamics from interactions Merle has with Officer Friendly, Glenn and Tyrese.

Not sure if Merle will last too long with Rick's group, though.

And Andrea can fall off a cliff. I have never hated a fictional character so much.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 03, 2012, 12:15:22 AM

So the Gov makes Daryl and Merle fight to the death in the "arena", I'm thinking, tho at least Daryl will survive, (he's in the previews for the second half of the season, I think Andrea saves him somehow), thankfully, (def one of my favorite characters).

Interesting that they added a whole new group, as new characters are usually added one at-a-time, but it makes sense, as there can't be many people who survive on their own for long.

Really bummed that they got rid of Oscar so soon, as he was the voice of sanity and humanity, and bummed that Michonne didn't get to kill the Governor ... just really wanna see that guy gone, (despite his role as catalyst/antagonist).

Completely stinks that the next show isn't until February ... what happened to the "school schedule" television series schedules? (The good ol' days, I guess).

You know the Gov will now be on a mission for Michonne, as that's developing into the number one confrontational element ... hope Michonee gets to do the "Kill Bill" thing on him eventually.

I was going to start reading the comics, but I think it's more enjoyable this way for now, and I'll do that after this ends, (don't have the spare time to read anything right now anyway).

I guess, (from hints they dropped), that Tyreese will be a major role, so that's something to look forward to ... like his whole energy.

Worried about Rick's decreasing role and transition into his own rather insane world, (his son, too) ... I would have trouble staying interested if he was killed off or made impotent in his role.

Wondering where Carl will end up emotionally, though he promised his mom hed stay on the good side, and he's got his little sister to take care of, (that whole thing seems to indicate a decreased role for Rick, too ... really hoex that doesn't happen, as he is the core of this whole story, IMO.

Andrea is a totally gullible sap, to the point that I don't care much anymore what happens to her. Seems her emotional needs easily overcame her common sense and intelligence ... go figure.

Great episode ... come on, Sunday, February 10, 9PM!

Good thinking with the arena bit. From the episode nine preview, though you see the Govnah meandering around amongst smoke in the same general area as when this episode ended.

I'm guessing since Rick and friends still haven't left the general area of the town, they go back for Daryl. Michonne kind of alludes to this, too. They'll go run in and start throwing some left over smoke grenades and rescue Daryl... And now I'm guessing Rick won't allow himself to leave Merle chained to a post again and ends up saving him as well.

That seems like a good possibility. I'd create a ton of tension and dynamics from interactions Merle has with Officer Friendly, Glenn and Tyrese.

Not sure if Merle will last too long with Rick's group, though.

And Andrea can fall off a cliff. I have never hated a fictional character so much.
Yeah, I mean she totally blows off the woman who saved her life and protected her for months for a chance to do the girly thang with that sleazebag Gov? She deserves to be biter-bait at this point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 07, 2013, 01:23:25 AM
Finally, the second half of the season starts this Sunday ... these mid-season breaks are horrible. Used to be a TV show lasted from early fall to late spring ... I know they're trying to crank up interest, but I really dislike these schedules. Can't wait for Sunday.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 07, 2013, 08:01:57 PM
They're going to replay the last season-and-a-half of epiosdes leading up to part two as well. Shoulda be gooda!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 07, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
after american horror story
im ready for the walking dead

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 10, 2013, 06:49:50 PM

** Tonight at 9P ... the game should be over just in time. Looking forward to it! **
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 10, 2013, 07:53:08 PM
No TV til Friday  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 11, 2013, 07:14:26 PM
Tablesetter episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: blink on February 11, 2013, 08:29:14 PM
Yeah, kind of a let down after the mid season finale show.  I guess we will get some more action after the Gov decides to attack the group.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: csfansince60s on February 11, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
thought this thread was about the Cs frontcourt against Byron Mullens......sad :(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jdz101 on February 11, 2013, 08:49:54 PM
Tablesetter episode.

I was pretty bored.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 14, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
The black and white version starts tonight at 630P, (I think with episode one, (season one) ... can't watch it myself, but this is a series that should lend itself to this format. I hope Sunday's episode is better than the part two premiere ... just setting things up, I know, but I expected it to be a bit more edgy.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 23, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
The only incongruous thing about this show that really bugs me is Andrea, (and I really like Laurie Holden as an acress, by the way) ... they try to portray her as an intelligent woman, and yet her character has GOT to be the most idiotic, gullible, naive' person in the history of this show.

I mean, she's seen what a sick, unscrupulous, piece-of-crap human being the Governor is first-hand, knows what he's done to the people who spent months and months protecting and taking care of her, has seen the horrific heads in tanks and brutal gladiator-type zombie entertainment he's provided for "family entertainment", and yet she's staying by his side and selling out her true family for these people she hardly knows because she did the horizontal mambo with this sicko?!?

It just makes no sense and carries no weight in my mind, and is the one relationship/situation that holds no water in the light of day. I hope they do something to define her character's id a bit more, or (in the name of heaven) puit her out of her misery. Her character is weak, the relationship is weak, her role is weak, and at this point it carries very little importance to what's taking place, other than to keep stretching the boundaries of believability and ignorance.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 23, 2013, 10:35:09 AM
Does anyone else think that the person driving the van full of zombies could be Andrea, proving her loyalty to the Gov?

It didn't really make sense to me at first, but when the Governor sees the van coming he's a bit surprised, and whoever it is runs and moves like a woman, and they purposely cover the person's entire face, clothes, and body.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 23, 2013, 02:01:19 PM
How Rick's madness should've gone down:

(http://i.imgur.com/wN7tZcJ.gif)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 24, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
PIP, DVR ... thanks to technology for times like these. :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 25, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
Pretty good episode yesterday, despite being a tablesetter episode.  Loved the Tom Waits montage at the end.

Calling it right now though - dude from the preview, on the roof with a rifle?  That's gonna be the guy from the very first episode that Rick stayed with and talked to over the walkie-talkie.  The whole gang's getting back together for the upcoming war.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 25, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
Andrea choked!

She needs to be dead.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 03, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
Andrea choked!

She needs to be dead.
One of the most stupid characters in the history of television ... I mean, hello? These people fed you and protected you, (including Michonne), for months and months, and you're going to kiss it all off for this twisted town and (what she knows to be) it's sick governor? How do you spell blonde?

I'm thinking a different pivotal character dies tonight, though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 03, 2013, 01:12:52 PM
Andrea must die
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 03, 2013, 09:35:12 PM
ok brotha

the radio didnt werk..

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 03, 2013, 09:48:47 PM
Iv'e never watched this show before. Am i missing out?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 03, 2013, 09:58:09 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 03, 2013, 09:59:04 PM
How Rick's madness should've gone down:

(http://i.imgur.com/wN7tZcJ.gif)

classic!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 03, 2013, 10:10:59 PM
poor back pack guy

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 03, 2013, 10:13:29 PM
so.....I wonder what famous person played the cameo of backpacker guy?

Charlie sheen ...lol
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ManUp on March 03, 2013, 10:31:09 PM
lol, no hitch-hiking in the zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 03, 2013, 10:42:43 PM
I liked Martin's whole protection setup
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 03, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
I liked Martin's whole protection setup
I think you mean Morgan. :)

Pretty creative ... hopefully Rick will take some pointers for the prison setup.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 04, 2013, 06:23:49 AM
I liked Martin's whole protection setup
I think you mean Morgan. :)

Pretty creative ... hopefully Rick will take some pointers for the prison setup.

You know I was thinking of  Me using the wrong name as one if my last waking thoughts last night.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 04, 2013, 07:22:08 AM
Rick's main danger is not zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 04, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
One of the best episodes that show's ever had.  Lennie James (Morgan) absolutely killed it.

And the writer of that much better-written episode is the new showrunner!  Pretty good news all around.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 04, 2013, 11:31:24 AM
One of the best episodes that show's ever had.  Lennie James (Morgan) absolutely killed it.

And the writer of that much better-written episode is the new showrunner!  Pretty good news all around.

Best episode of the half season by a long shot.  The absence of the Governor and that whole sideplot was welcome IMO.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 04, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
One of the best episodes that show's ever had.  Lennie James (Morgan) absolutely killed it.

And the writer of that much better-written episode is the new showrunner!  Pretty good news all around.

Best episode of the half season by a long shot.  The absence of the Governor and that whole sideplot was welcome IMO.
An epsiode without Andrea is always a good thing, (though I've always liked Laurie Holden, since seeing The Majestic).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: mkogav on March 04, 2013, 11:51:31 AM
One of the best episodes that show's ever had.  Lennie James (Morgan) absolutely killed it.

And the writer of that much better-written episode is the new showrunner!  Pretty good news all around.

Best episode of the half season by a long shot.  The absence of the Governor and that whole sideplot was welcome IMO.

Agreed.

Mk
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Amonkey on March 04, 2013, 12:06:27 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 04, 2013, 03:40:25 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 04, 2013, 04:12:31 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
This can't be the end of Morgan ... he's got to be involved in saving them from the Governor's hord at the prison or something, or why would they spend a whole episode on him, ya know?

Plus, Lennie James is just such a monster of an actor, (no pun intended) ... they've got to keep him going.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 05, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
This can't be the end of Morgan ... he's got to be involved in saving them from the Governor's hord at the prison or something, or why would they spend a whole episode on him, ya know?

Plus, Lennie James is just such a monster of an actor, (no pun intended) ... they've got to keep him going.

Smallish spoiler in small text below (quote or copy-paste somewhere to read):

IMDB says Morgan will be appearing in one more episode this year - the season finale.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 05, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
This can't be the end of Morgan ... he's got to be involved in saving them from the Governor's hord at the prison or something, or why would they spend a whole episode on him, ya know?

Plus, Lennie James is just such a monster of an actor, (no pun intended) ... they've got to keep him going.

Smallish spoiler in small text below (quote or copy-paste somewhere to read):

IMDB says Morgan will be appearing in one more episode this year - the season finale.

Thought so ... this was like a refresher episode, to remind folks who he was, and more importantly, to introduce him to people who may not have seen those early episodes, otherwise it wouldn't have made a lot of sense to waste an entire episode on him. Great episode, this.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 05, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Andrea gots to go
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 05, 2013, 09:18:08 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
This can't be the end of Morgan ... he's got to be involved in saving them from the Governor's hord at the prison or something, or why would they spend a whole episode on him, ya know?

Plus, Lennie James is just such a monster of an actor, (no pun intended) ... they've got to keep him going.

To tie up Morgan's loose end, finally end ricks insanity, and give michonne and carl some character development? Those are three fine reasons for me.

I doubt well see morgan again. He's a big time actor and is working on other projects.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 05, 2013, 10:54:55 PM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
This can't be the end of Morgan ... he's got to be involved in saving them from the Governor's hord at the prison or something, or why would they spend a whole episode on him, ya know?

Plus, Lennie James is just such a monster of an actor, (no pun intended) ... they've got to keep him going.

To tie up Morgan's loose end, finally end ricks insanity, and give michonne and carl some character development? Those are three fine reasons for me.

I doubt well see morgan again. He's a big time actor and is working on other projects.

Agreed about Lennie James being a great actor,  I remember him on Jericho.  Entertaining but underrated show. 

I thought Sunday's episode was great.  Agree with the sentiment that it was a table setter. I was just happy to see the show get away from the prison & Woodsbury for once. Some good character development with the 4 characters. 

Can't wait  to see how this season ends.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 06, 2013, 12:11:08 AM
He had a great set up, but what happens if he comes across a big hoarde of zombies like in the farm. Would it be able to hold up? One thing that was interesting though is how he has a whole above ground zip line system that allows him to go from roof to roof without being on the ground. That was one of the things they talked about in Talking Dead.
that really showed some forethought into not just protecting himself with the barriers but also an escape route.
This can't be the end of Morgan ... he's got to be involved in saving them from the Governor's hord at the prison or something, or why would they spend a whole episode on him, ya know?

Plus, Lennie James is just such a monster of an actor, (no pun intended) ... they've got to keep him going.

To tie up Morgan's loose end, finally end ricks insanity, and give michonne and carl some character development? Those are three fine reasons for me.

I doubt well see morgan again. He's a big time actor and is working on other projects.
I'd reply but it might spoil it, (but maybe just my inference already did?). ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: AshyLarry on March 06, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 07, 2013, 08:06:37 AM
Iv'e never watched this show before. Am i missing out?

I've seen every episode so far since writing this comment....lol.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 07, 2013, 08:12:08 AM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: AshyLarry on March 09, 2013, 01:24:52 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 09, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 09, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 09, 2013, 02:46:43 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 09, 2013, 02:53:33 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 09, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 09, 2013, 04:13:09 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 09, 2013, 04:42:45 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.

Shane was one of those guys you love to hate. You gotta have guys like that in a show. I didn't like him but I didn't want him killed off either, not yet anyways.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 09, 2013, 04:46:13 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.

I don't think its fair the heat andrea is getting. Shes in a tough situation here. Its easy to sit back watching and say "Hey! Do this!!" You gotta see where shes coming from tho.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 09, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.

Shane was one of those guys you love to hate. You gotta have guys like that in a show. I didn't like him but I didn't want him killed off either, not yet anyways.
I agree with this ... he was a very important character, (kind of a positive antagonist of sorts), and much of the show hinged on that then, but his time was up, and I didn't miss him after he was removed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 09, 2013, 05:04:33 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.

I don't think its fair the heat andrea is getting. Shes in a tough situation here. Its easy to sit back watching and say "Hey! Do this!!" You gotta see where shes coming from tho.
I actually love Laurie Holden, (since The Majestic), but the integrity of her character is long-gone, and every scene she's in is a torturous "Oh, please ... how can anyone be that stupid or gullible!" Not even the writing for her holds up well anymore ... Forrest Gump would fare better in that situation than she has.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 09, 2013, 05:37:47 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.

I don't think its fair the heat andrea is getting. Shes in a tough situation here. Its easy to sit back watching and say "Hey! Do this!!" You gotta see where shes coming from tho.
I actually love Laurie Holden, (since The Majestic), but the integrity of her character is long-gone, and every scene she's in is a torturous "Oh, please ... how can anyone be that stupid or gullible!" Not even the writing for her holds up well anymore ... Forrest Gump would fare better in that situation than she has.

Has she really done anything that warrants her death tho? Like, has she really made people that mad that you can't wait for her to meet her end in a horrible slow and painful death?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 09, 2013, 05:40:44 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.

I don't think its fair the heat andrea is getting. Shes in a tough situation here. Its easy to sit back watching and say "Hey! Do this!!" You gotta see where shes coming from tho.
I actually love Laurie Holden, (since The Majestic), but the integrity of her character is long-gone, and every scene she's in is a torturous "Oh, please ... how can anyone be that stupid or gullible!" Not even the writing for her holds up well anymore ... Forrest Gump would fare better in that situation than she has.

Has she really done anything that warrants her death tho? Like, has she really made people that mad that you can't wait for her to meet her end in a horrible slow and painful death?


No, she doesn't have to die if there were other ways on this show to get rid of her, there isn't... so death...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: AshyLarry on March 09, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.

I don't think its fair the heat andrea is getting. Shes in a tough situation here. Its easy to sit back watching and say "Hey! Do this!!" You gotta see where shes coming from tho.
I actually love Laurie Holden, (since The Majestic), but the integrity of her character is long-gone, and every scene she's in is a torturous "Oh, please ... how can anyone be that stupid or gullible!" Not even the writing for her holds up well anymore ... Forrest Gump would fare better in that situation than she has.

Has she really done anything that warrants her death tho? Like, has she really made people that mad that you can't wait for her to meet her end in a horrible slow and painful death?


No, she doesn't have to die if there were other ways on this show to get rid of her, there isn't... so death...

You just cracked me up lmbo. I agree on Andrea, she needs to uh, stop being Andrea, or stop uh, breathing.

edit; apparently I have to laugh my butt off, not my donkey.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 09, 2013, 05:53:02 PM
"she might be one of us"

she gonna go bye bye

Thought the same thing. Good things don't last in this universe.
sadly, no they don't.  I had the same feeling when he said that.  Hope it's much ado about nothing because I think she could be a really strong character in this series.

Forreal. You can't just throw an intense, sassy, dreadlocked, possible lesbian ninja, wielded with a katana and an attitude at us, and toss her off within a season or two. Girl's a fan favorite!

I'd stop watching the show!(I wouldn't stop watching the show)
Yeah ... gotta have more Michonne, girl is awesome, and the temperament of the whole story demands her right now. I'd be upset if they offed her now.

I like her character but I wouldn't be overly upset if she got killed off. I've delt with shane and dale getting killed off so I can deal with her getting killed off too.

I'd be upset, she has become my fav. I wasn't mad about Shane at all... I cheered it!
Ditto ... Dale I was upset about, (though they replaced his temperament and sensibility with Hershel), Shane I wanted gone.


Yea, I miss Dale, for his dynamic with Andrea... I don't like her anymore. Switch-out for a crazy man!!! I hate people who aren't loyal... I mean, she does try to help but not the way she should, (male organ) whipped!!
Andrea has to go ... selling out her friends and abandoning all they've done for her to sleep with a guy she knows is a sicko, running this incredibly dysfunctional "peaceful" community where they have famly night fights to the death and the gov keeps head trophies in fish tanks. How stupid/absurd can she be?!? Bye-bye, please ... soon.

I don't think its fair the heat andrea is getting. Shes in a tough situation here. Its easy to sit back watching and say "Hey! Do this!!" You gotta see where shes coming from tho.
I actually love Laurie Holden, (since The Majestic), but the integrity of her character is long-gone, and every scene she's in is a torturous "Oh, please ... how can anyone be that stupid or gullible!" Not even the writing for her holds up well anymore ... Forrest Gump would fare better in that situation than she has.

Has she really done anything that warrants her death tho? Like, has she really made people that mad that you can't wait for her to meet her end in a horrible slow and painful death?
Absolutely.

She had the chance to get rid of the Governor, a guy clearly more sinister and deadly than the walkers themselves, and she passed, knowing that he tried to kill her friends and is intent on finsihing the job.
 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 10, 2013, 07:45:54 PM
My nephew just called to make sure I was getting into the proper "Zombie Apocalypse Mindset" in preparation for tonight's episode, lol!

Should be a good one, though ... despite Andrea's seemingly miraculous way of beating the odds week-after-week.

A blonde zombie brunch in Woodbury, perhaps?

Arrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 10, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
Andrea not killing the Governor is just setting up some other conflict down the line - it's not like he was going to die with like 5 episodes left.  She has been a pretty awful character though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 10, 2013, 08:40:34 PM
Andrea not killing the Governor is just setting up some other conflict down the line - it's not like he was going to die with like 5 episodes left.  She has been a pretty awful character though.

Yeah.  She's such an annoying character, which is especially disappointing because her character in the graphic novel is so strong.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 10, 2013, 08:58:01 PM
Andrea not killing the Governor is just setting up some other conflict down the line - it's not like he was going to die with like 5 episodes left.  She has been a pretty awful character though.

Yeah.  She's such an annoying character, which is especially disappointing because her character in the graphic novel is so strong.

feed me some Andrea NOWWWWW!

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/60468_10200753948513397_1638226620_n.jpg)

(the Dead Yourself app is pretty fun BTW!)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 10, 2013, 09:19:59 PM
People were mad at andrea for not killing the governor when she had the chance but rick could have shot him square in the face right there and decided to talk first instead.....just saying.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 10, 2013, 09:39:40 PM
It's just a way to get Michonne easily ... no way he forgives everything else and walks away. He'll still go after the folks in the prison ... hopefully Rick isn't that stupid to fall for it. Guess we'll find out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 10, 2013, 09:42:40 PM
It's just a way to get Michonne easily ... no way he forgives everything else and walks away. He'll still go after the folks in the prison ... hopefully Rick isn't that stupid to fall for it. Guess we'll find out.

Yeah my thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 10, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
Andrea turns down another chance to redeem herself on the right side ... sheesh!  ::)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 10, 2013, 10:02:35 PM
Any chance this all ends well? I think there's a chance they all turn on the governor.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 10, 2013, 10:05:41 PM
Please tell me Rick isn't that stupid ... to think that the Gov will stop at Michonne, and be giving up one of his best fighters in the process.

It's worth the time for the Gov, though, if he can get them to hand over Michonne like that, know that they're one more person short when he goes to finish the job.

If Rick falls for it then he deserves getting capped ... that would surpass even Andrea's stupidity, (can't believe he's considering it, actually, though it makes for good story).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: EnJoY on March 10, 2013, 10:10:52 PM
Is anyone else getting annoying by the following?

1. Excessive commercials on AMC.

2. Single scenes and sequences drawn out for an entire episode rather than just being a significant part of an episode.  Last week and this week are examples of this.

I'm starting to lose my patience with this, and it feels like they are milking it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: wahz on March 10, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
So I watched this show and imho, this is even more awful than the Kardashians, which I thought was impossible. Wow. Easily the absolutely most intolerable garbage I have ever watched in my life
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 10, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
Please tell me Rick isn't that stupid ... to think that the Gov will stop at Michonne, and be giving up one of his best fighters in the process.

It's worth the time for the Gov, though, if he can get them to hand over Michonne like that, know that they're one more person short when he goes to finish the job.

If Rick falls for it then he deserves getting capped ... that would surpass even Andrea's stupidity, (can't believe he's considering it, actually, though it makes for good story).

You have to understand rick is extremely desperate right now. He doesn't have many options that will end well for him and his team. This seems like the only way out to him. Even if its not a guarantee, it could be his only option if he and his friends want to live.

The other option is just go to war. Between that and giving up someone you don't even care for all like that.........just playing devils advocate. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 10, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
So I watched this show and imho, this is even more awful than the Kardashians, which I thought was impossible. Wow. Easily the absolutely most intolerable garbage I have ever watched in my life

If you just watched it for the first time then obviously you won't like it because you have no idea what's going on. I didn't like it either at first because I had no idea what was going on. Then I started from episode one and watched it in order and I love it now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 10, 2013, 10:24:25 PM
So I watched this show and imho, this is even more awful than the Kardashians, which I thought was impossible. Wow. Easily the absolutely most intolerable garbage I have ever watched in my life

If you just watched it for the first time then obviously you won't like it because you have no idea what's going on. I didn't like it either at first because I had no idea what was going on. Then I started from episode one and watched it in order and I love it now.
And what does that teach his son about character?

No, I can't imagine Rick would loosen his grasp that much on always taking the high road in his son's eyes, especially now that he has a connection with her, ("I think she's one of us.") ... at least I hope not. ;)

That's been the one consistent thing that sets this group apart from the rest, their efforts to retain their humanity.

The ads for next week have the Gov chasing someone after leaving the town, (must be his "assistant" taking the high road to warn the prison group about the slaughter coming, even if they turn over Michonne), and someone inside his group trying to sabotage his plans, (gotta be Andrea).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 10, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
So I watched this show and imho, this is even more awful than the Kardashians, which I thought was impossible. Wow. Easily the absolutely most intolerable garbage I have ever watched in my life

If you just watched it for the first time then obviously you won't like it because you have no idea what's going on. I didn't like it either at first because I had no idea what was going on. Then I started from episode one and watched it in order and I love it now.
And what does that teach his son about character?

No, I can't imagine Rick would loosen his grasp that much on always taking the high road in his son's eyes, especially now that he has a connection with her, ("I think she's one of us.") ... at least I hope not. ;)

That's been the one consistent thing that sets this group apart from the rest, their efforts to retain their humanity.

The ads for next week have the Gov chasing someone after leaving the town, (must be his "assistant" taking the high road to warn the prison group about the slaughter coming, even if they turn over Michonne), and someone inside his group trying to sabotage his plans, (gotta be Andrea).

He might not have a son if he doesn't quickly find a way to get through this. I don't think he will give her up but I can't get mad at him for entertaining the idea.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 10, 2013, 10:36:17 PM
meh
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: AshyLarry on March 10, 2013, 10:38:15 PM
meh

I agree.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 10, 2013, 10:43:04 PM
So I watched this show and imho, this is even more awful than the Kardashians, which I thought was impossible. Wow. Easily the absolutely most intolerable garbage I have ever watched in my life

If you just watched it for the first time then obviously you won't like it because you have no idea what's going on. I didn't like it either at first because I had no idea what was going on. Then I started from episode one and watched it in order and I love it now.
And what does that teach his son about character?

No, I can't imagine Rick would loosen his grasp that much on always taking the high road in his son's eyes, especially now that he has a connection with her, ("I think she's one of us.") ... at least I hope not. ;)

That's been the one consistent thing that sets this group apart from the rest, their efforts to retain their humanity.

The ads for next week have the Gov chasing someone after leaving the town, (must be his "assistant" taking the high road to warn the prison group about the slaughter coming, even if they turn over Michonne), and someone inside his group trying to sabotage his plans, (gotta be Andrea).

He might not have a son if he doesn't quickly find a way to get through this. I don't think he will give her up but I can't get mad at him for entertaining the idea.
Yeah, I hear ya ... just hope it's not carried through.

This episode was a bit anti-climactic ... I think they could've shortened the whole "meeting" thing a bit for a little more action/tension building.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 10, 2013, 10:51:59 PM
meh

I agree.

I guess this is what they meant when rumors surfaced that they ran out of material towards the end of the season...

3 Episodes left, Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. will hit the fan soon enough though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: blink on March 11, 2013, 12:07:51 AM
I think the whole meeting between rick and the gov. was a dumb idea plot wise.  I don't know how I am supposed to believe that Rick would actually sit down at the table with the gov after he attacked the prison.  It doesn't make sense to me.  Why would he ever trust anything the gov would say after the attack?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 11, 2013, 12:15:21 AM
I think the whole meeting between rick and the gov. was a dumb idea plot wise.  I don't know how I am supposed to believe that Rick would actually sit down at the table with the gov after he attacked the prison. It doesn't make sense to me.  Why would he ever trust anything the gov would say after the attack?
Yeah, and if he did, why wouldn't he just cap this guy and end the whole thing? There's much of this show that is beyond plausible, but I guess that's television, eh? ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on March 11, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
Terrible episode. Trying to get fancy pants and win awards.

The Sopranos would throw an episode in like this - Chris and Tony chasing the Russian in the woods - but it would be a once or twice a year thing (when the show was good.) And they gave you a lot of action around it. This was a key plot episode - should only have been half the episode. They have a new born baby - make the baby get sick and the prison peeps have to deal with going on a run as half the episode. The whole "Merle is out of control thing" is lame. Although his brotherly concerns foreshadows Darryl's death IMO.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 11, 2013, 06:08:42 AM
It is setting the table for the finales.  There are only like three more episodes right?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 11, 2013, 06:30:58 AM
Terrible episode. Trying to get fancy pants and win awards.

The Sopranos would throw an episode in like this - Chris and Tony chasing the Russian in the woods - but it would be a once or twice a year thing (when the show was good.) And they gave you a lot of action around it. This was a key plot episode - should only have been half the episode. They have a new born baby - make the baby get sick and the prison peeps have to deal with going on a run as half the episode. The whole "Merle is out of control thing" is lame. Although his brotherly concerns foreshadows Darryl's death IMO.

Meh, everyone's a critic.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 15, 2013, 11:23:45 PM
Some little clues from (Executive Producer) Robert Kirkman on upcoming episodes ... not really big spoilers, but you may choose to not read:


1) Rick has been scared straight: Rick's journey to Crazytown took a detour when he came across an even crazier Morgan, "He sees this fun house there - who he could eventually be if he keeps going down this path," says Kirkman. "He could have a relapse, but he is getting a handle on what is going on with him."

2) Andrea becomes the key player: "The rest of the season really is about what Andrea is doing," says Kirkman. "The fact that she wasn't able to kill the Governor is going to play into a lot of the upcoming story for the rest of the season."

3) More deaths are around the corner: Says Kirkman: "I'm afraid there may be a casualty or more still to be experienced by the end of the season." Gulp.

4) The endgame is near: "There is a resolution" to the Rick-Governor conflict, promises Kirkman. "And it will set things up nicely for season four."

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 16, 2013, 07:56:01 AM

2) Andrea becomes the key player: "The rest of the season really is about what Andrea is doing," says Kirkman. "The fact that she wasn't able to kill the Governor is going to play into a lot of the upcoming story for the rest of the season."

Predictable, but it's sad that there's so much emphasis on a weak character.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 16, 2013, 08:40:39 AM
2 side projects I'd like to see if they could be done well...

1) a full length, feature film for theaters "Walking Dead Outbreak" focusing on the early mayhem.  Some of the flashback scenes when Rick is knocked out in the hospital are pretty poignant.

2) the equivalent of CSI Miami ...let's see what's happening elsewhere in the world...or introduce a character for a new show travels from city to city (a Thunder the Barbarian sort)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Banner18now! on March 16, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
2 side projects I'd like to see if they could be done well...

1) a full length, feature film for theaters "Walking Dead Outbreak" focusing on the early mayhem.  Some of the flashback scenes when Rick is knocked out in the hospital are pretty poignant.

2) the equivalent of CSI Miami ...let's see what's happening elsewhere in the world...or introduce a character for a new show travels from city to city (a Thunder the Barbarian sort)



I love your ideas especially #1. Would be a great movie!!Send this to Kirkman!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 16, 2013, 11:26:57 AM
Can't wait for tonights show. There's been hints one or two more people get killed off before the season ends. Wonder who that could be? I wish rick wasn't the main character. I never liked him much, or his son.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 16, 2013, 11:39:01 AM
Quote
(Thunder the Barbarian sort)
   Report to a


Ookla, Ariel, RIDE!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 16, 2013, 02:17:44 PM
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(Thunder the Barbarian sort)
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Ookla, Ariel, RIDE!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 07:29:31 PM

2) Andrea becomes the key player: "The rest of the season really is about what Andrea is doing," says Kirkman. "The fact that she wasn't able to kill the Governor is going to play into a lot of the upcoming story for the rest of the season."

Predictable, but it's sad that there's so much emphasis on a weak character.
Yeah, that was my feeling as well, Roy ... she is easily the weakest character, and in fact much of the writing for her part just doesn't hold up under any kind of scrutiny.

I think maybe the producers got the same message and are trying to bolster her part, but you just can't take much of what she does/says seriously, because they try and portray her at times as intelligent, and yet many of the things she does/doesn't do are idiotic or naive to the point of absurdity.

There are other ways they could've gone that would make much better story, but I guess time will tell. She was the last person I would have made pivotal, personally ... but then they know a lot more about the direction they need to go in than I do.

Still looking forward to these last three episodes, though last week was pretty uneventful. I know they'll be killing off another character or two by the end of season three, but heaven help them if it's Rick, Daryl or Michonne, (Andrea and the Gov have to go ... soon). ;)

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
Hier gehen wir. :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Hier gehen wir. :)

translate brotha
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
brotha with the skull cap and cant shoot
will be the hero
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:36:46 PM
bio shock infinite

i hope they made it for the ps2

*sippin*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 09:38:43 PM
Hier gehen wir. :)

translate brotha
Here we go. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:38:52 PM
she is not crazy
when gov decide to kill her family..(who she been with thru thick and thin)
her mind changed
human nature
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Hier gehen wir. :)

translate brotha
Here we go. ;)


here we go?

i dont understand the words that are comin out of your mouth

 ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 17, 2013, 09:40:59 PM
Hope they don't kill off Tyreese anytime soon. That's my dude.

And I wish the writers would admit they ruined Andrea and just kill her off. So glad Mazzara is leaving the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:43:20 PM
Hope they don't kill off Tyreese anytime soon. That's my dude.

And I wish the writers would admit they ruined Andrea and just kill her off. So glad Mazzara is leaving the show.

i cheat a year ago and read the graphic novels

im expecting a major pawn to be cut off
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 17, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)

Oh come on, you're reaching now lol. I can think of alot of idiot things rick has done.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:47:03 PM
i woulda ran up the steps
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:50:20 PM
she on talkin dead which means she....

 :'(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 09:53:11 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)

Oh come on, you're reaching now lol. I can think of alot of idiot things rick has done.
Compared to Andrea?!? You're kidding, right? I'm hoping she redeems herself here, but the sum total of her stupid decisions is overwhelming. I mean, you're trying to hide from people so you walk out into the middle of the biggest field you can find? Please, lol!

No way the Governor's dead yet, by the way.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
governor got bit

i think
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 10:01:42 PM
she fine!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 10:02:22 PM
Milton's going to save Andrea.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 17, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)

Oh come on, you're reaching now lol. I can think of alot of idiot things rick has done.
Compared to Andrea?!? You're kidding, right? I'm hoping she redeems herself here, but the sum total of her stupid decisions is overwhelming. I mean, you're trying to hide from people so you walk out into the middle of the biggest field you can find? Please, lol!

No way the Governor's dead yet, by the way.

Wasting all that time searching for that little girl even tho the chances of her being alive were slim to none. He risked peoples lives daily for sentimental reasons. That was extremely stupid.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 10:08:21 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)

Oh come on, you're reaching now lol. I can think of alot of idiot things rick has done.
Compared to Andrea?!? You're kidding, right? I'm hoping she redeems herself here, but the sum total of her stupid decisions is overwhelming. I mean, you're trying to hide from people so you walk out into the middle of the biggest field you can find? Please, lol!

No way the Governor's dead yet, by the way.

Wasting all that time searching for that little girl even tho the chances of her being alive were slim to none. He risked peoples lives daily for sentimental reasons. That was extremely stupid.

rick gotta son
if is son was lost
he would have expected the same love from the group
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 17, 2013, 10:09:03 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)

Oh come on, you're reaching now lol. I can think of alot of idiot things rick has done.
Compared to Andrea?!? You're kidding, right? I'm hoping she redeems herself here, but the sum total of her stupid decisions is overwhelming. I mean, you're trying to hide from people so you walk out into the middle of the biggest field you can find? Please, lol!

No way the Governor's dead yet, by the way.

Wasting all that time searching for that little girl even tho the chances of her being alive were slim to none. He risked peoples lives daily for sentimental reasons. That was extremely stupid.

rick gotta son
if is son was lost
he would have expected the same love from the group

That doesn't make it any less stupid.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2013, 10:12:48 PM
Once again ... geez! Andrea's trying to get away from the Governor and she walks out into the middle of the biggest, barest field she can find ... come on! The depths of her idiocy knows no bounds ... it's just a bit absurd. ::)

Oh come on, you're reaching now lol. I can think of alot of idiot things rick has done.
Compared to Andrea?!? You're kidding, right? I'm hoping she redeems herself here, but the sum total of her stupid decisions is overwhelming. I mean, you're trying to hide from people so you walk out into the middle of the biggest field you can find? Please, lol!

No way the Governor's dead yet, by the way.

Wasting all that time searching for that little girl even tho the chances of her being alive were slim to none. He risked peoples lives daily for sentimental reasons. That was extremely stupid.

rick gotta son
if is son was lost
he would have expected the same love from the group

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

and thats why this is not about human vs walking dead
it's human vs human
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 17, 2013, 10:21:18 PM
ok....somebody in this story needs to grow a set.......and kill the creepy sick one eyed  dude.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 17, 2013, 10:25:54 PM
ok....somebody in this story needs to grow a set.......and kill the creepy sick one eyed  dude.

Indeed.  But she did seem to have trapped him pretty well.

They need to start showing how these people are escaping from rooms packed with zombies and little to no weaponry.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 17, 2013, 10:39:09 PM
That nerd Milton needs to step up and eliminate psycho. governor.  .....for the good of all the non- zombie folks still alive.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 17, 2013, 10:43:21 PM
That nerd Milton needs to step up and eliminate psycho. governor.  .....for the good of all the non- zombie folks still alive.
I'm thinkin' he does, or will at least try ... they seemed to intimate that he was the one who torched the biters, so he clearly has made a choice, (I'm thinkin' he saves Andrea, too). Morgan will play into the last episode, too, and that should be a good "A-ha!" moment.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 17, 2013, 10:44:22 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 17, 2013, 10:55:49 PM
God I can't hate Merle at all.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 17, 2013, 11:42:37 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.

I agree. I also realized how poor the acting is. Some scenes just make me cringe. Overall, season 3 has been a disappointment, but I'll watch anyways because I'm curious to see what will happen.

Can't wait for Breaking Bad this summer, though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 18, 2013, 07:52:32 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.

I agree. I also realized how poor the acting is. Some scenes just make me cringe. Overall, season 3 has been a disappointment, but I'll watch anyways because I'm curious to see what will happen.

Can't wait for Breaking Bad this summer, though.

Yet another reason to want Andrea dead - her acting very trite and bad.

Breaking is great, but the split season makes it hard to stay pumped up about.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Brendan on March 18, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
Last two episodes (the gov/rick faceoff) and the andrea failed escape - should have been one episode, not two. these guys are STRETCHED for material. and maybe budget...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 18, 2013, 08:25:21 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.

I agree. I also realized how poor the acting is. Some scenes just make me cringe. Overall, season 3 has been a disappointment, but I'll watch anyways because I'm curious to see what will happen.

Can't wait for Breaking Bad this summer, though.

Yet another reason to want Andrea dead - her acting very trite and bad.

Breaking is great, but the split season makes it hard to stay pumped up about.

I like her acting.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 25, 2013, 02:18:37 PM
Im sorry.

But I shed a bit of tears after I saw last night's episode.

I... I just... Merle...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 25, 2013, 03:09:44 PM
Im sorry.

But I shed a bit of tears after I saw last night's episode.

I... I just... Merle...

Lol yeah, he was just starting to turn into a decent guy. I was mad at the ending. I knew if merle lost the fight he was dead so I was cheering him on against the governor, poor merle  :(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 25, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.

I agree. I also realized how poor the acting is. Some scenes just make me cringe. Overall, season 3 has been a disappointment, but I'll watch anyways because I'm curious to see what will happen.

Can't wait for Breaking Bad this summer, though.

Yet another reason to want Andrea dead - her acting very trite and bad.

Breaking is great, but the split season makes it hard to stay pumped up about.

I like her acting.
I think Laurie Holden is a great actress, it's just the writing for her character that hasn't held up well over the last few episodes ... I think this week was much better, and I liked this episode, personally.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 25, 2013, 05:22:50 PM
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Last two episodes (the gov/rick faceoff) and the andrea failed escape - should have been one episode, not two. these guys are STRETCHED for material. and maybe budget...

Calm before a storm, I challenge you to make a show that does as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
still miss n TDog  :'(


TDog would have killed that ol evil Governor by now
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 25, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
yeah
last night was not a good time to be

*sippin*

emotions are elevated ya know?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: birdwatcher on March 25, 2013, 08:59:23 PM
I could have done without the whole proposal story line, as it just seemed so far out of place considering all that's going on. I'm excited for the finale, and am kinda over this whole story arc with the Governor, although it is making for a great final episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 25, 2013, 09:28:47 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.

I agree. I also realized how poor the acting is. Some scenes just make me cringe. Overall, season 3 has been a disappointment, but I'll watch anyways because I'm curious to see what will happen.

Can't wait for Breaking Bad this summer, though.

Yet another reason to want Andrea dead - her acting very trite and bad.

Breaking is great, but the split season makes it hard to stay pumped up about.

I like her acting.
I think Laurie Holden is a great actress, it's just the writing for her character that hasn't held up well over the last few episodes ... I think this week was much better, and I liked this episode, personally.

She's a poor-woman's Loretta Swit  ;D

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 25, 2013, 09:52:08 PM
Didn't really enjoy this episode that much. In my opinion the show has gotten worse since shane died and they moved off the farm into the prison.

I agree. I also realized how poor the acting is. Some scenes just make me cringe. Overall, season 3 has been a disappointment, but I'll watch anyways because I'm curious to see what will happen.

Can't wait for Breaking Bad this summer, though.

Yet another reason to want Andrea dead - her acting very trite and bad.

Breaking is great, but the split season makes it hard to stay pumped up about.

I like her acting.
I think Laurie Holden is a great actress, it's just the writing for her character that hasn't held up well over the last few episodes ... I think this week was much better, and I liked this episode, personally.

She's a poor-woman's Loretta Swit  ;D
that's just uncalled for.   no one's that bad on this show. 

her character is becoming someone you'd want to throw to the dead though
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 31, 2013, 08:58:28 PM
cliche prediction: Andrea dies redeeming herself.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 31, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
cliche prediction: Andrea dies redeeming herself.
I'm kind of hoping they kill the governor and he becomes Michone's latest zombie on a chain
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 31, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
Well, you andrea haters got what you wanted!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 31, 2013, 10:08:50 PM
After all that, the governor didn't even die!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 31, 2013, 11:18:54 PM
cliche prediction: Andrea dies redeeming herself.
I'm kind of hoping they kill the governor and he becomes Michone's latest zombie on a chain

Well he was half right.

I was hoping Michonne would make Andrea her new companion, so from now on every key scene would have a CGI jawless Andrea swaying around in the background.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2013, 11:29:44 PM
governor lives. !


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on April 01, 2013, 01:05:45 AM
Thought for sure that Morgan would play a part in this last episode ... surprised that I felt bad at Andrea's dying ... she did her best at redemption, after all.

Carl is starting to creep me out a bit ... he's lost respect for his father, and that was really his last bastion of control ... Rick seems back to sanity, but the kid's over the edge.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on April 01, 2013, 03:20:14 AM
the lil boy gettin to big for his own drawls..
pops needs to sock him in his chest a couple times..


but on the strength u cant blame him..look at the situations he had to grow up in..

all that boy needs is that intervention program

Beyond Scared 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on April 01, 2013, 03:23:16 AM
Well, you andrea haters got what you wanted!

i was never a hater
but she knew she was dealin with the devil
she chose a couple nights of passion over the people she fought to stay alive with

"aint no lovin good enuff to get burnt while im up in it"

Snoop

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on April 01, 2013, 04:56:41 AM
I found the amount of commercials to be nigh unbearable.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on April 01, 2013, 06:26:48 AM
I found the amount of commercials to be nigh unbearable.

We watched  Game of Thrones "live" and recorded WD so we could zip through the commercials after. Hate those pesky ads.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on April 01, 2013, 07:55:53 AM

Carl is starting to creep me out a bit ... he's lost respect for his father, and that was really his last bastion of control ... Rick seems back to sanity, but the kid's over the edge.

I know that Kirkman is very into Carl as a character.  I think the show is likely to explore some of its ongoing themes -- namely, whether somebody can survive in a state of nature while retaining their humanity -- through Carl.  We've seen first Shane, and then the Governor essentially lose their morality, replacing it with "kill or be killed".  Carl is starting to go down that path, and it will be Rick's struggle to keep him from losing whatever innocence he has left.

I don't like Carl's character much in the show.  I don't know whether to blame the actor or the writing.  Going forward, though, I think the focus of the story is going to shift where his role becomes larger.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on July 04, 2013, 11:15:59 PM
Marathon session of episodes from now through the weekend, (now that I saved the house from my neighbor's fireworks display) ... just got to see Merle once again make the odd choice to cut his hand off rather than the handcuff chain to save himself from the advancing zombie horde, (it's a very dull hacksaw, we're told, tho sharp enough to cut through both radius and ulna in a matter of moments), and then blame this moronic choice on the ones who left him there. Priceless. Pretty cool behind-the-scenes stuff this time, though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on July 04, 2013, 11:27:03 PM
Btw

I'm very much hooked on the Remaining series of books by D.J. Molles.  We'll worth checking if you like the genre.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on July 04, 2013, 11:51:28 PM
Was really let down by season 3s finale and the last like 1/3 of it in general. Stretching the Governor arc to the next season seems so forced. Hoping season 4 will be better. And if not ill still have breaking bad.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on July 19, 2013, 07:07:57 PM
Season 4 preview ya'll!!!

www.youtube.com/v/FSi2fJALDyQ?hl=en_US&amp;version=3&amp;rel=0
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on July 19, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
Season 4 preview ya'll!!!

www.youtube.com/v/FSi2fJALDyQ?hl=en_US&amp;version=3&amp;rel=0

Yay!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on July 20, 2013, 04:19:13 AM
naw brotha!!

why u step out in the middle of them zombies?

what did he do so wrong to feel he had to do that?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on July 20, 2013, 04:33:29 AM
If Daryl dies, we riot!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on July 20, 2013, 08:15:00 AM
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Season 4 will return on Sunday, October 13 at 9 p.m. ET. But, there's a catch: "The Walking Dead's" 16-episode Season 4 will air in two parts. The first eight episodes kick off on October 13 and the remaining eight will begin airing February 2014.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/the-walking-dead-season-4-premiere-date_n_3625496.html

Some good info for this thread.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on September 25, 2013, 10:17:36 PM

Sunday, October 13, 9P ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSi2fJALDyQ

 ... looking forward to it.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Amonkey on October 11, 2013, 12:04:22 AM
Check out the webisodes on the AMC site. Theyre pretty good and will give u a little taste until subday.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 13, 2013, 09:19:05 PM
Leave her out there man!!! :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ManUp on October 13, 2013, 09:33:58 PM
I'm guessing cannibal... look out rick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 13, 2013, 10:05:32 PM
if the pig turns into a zombie, then the end for everyone
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 13, 2013, 10:42:01 PM
if the pig turns into a zombie, then the end for everyone

I smell a pig zombie spinoff show
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 13, 2013, 10:52:55 PM
Still an't over TDog,

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 13, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
if the pig turns into a zombie, then the end for everyone

I smell a pig zombie spinoff show

I like me some zombie swine flu  :P
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 27, 2013, 06:44:28 PM
It's nights like these that make me thankful for PIP and DVR ... go Sox!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 27, 2013, 07:03:50 PM
DVR will be doing double duty tonight

I think they need to kill off a star sometime soon. I found it hard to believe none if the regulars went down in last weeks fracas.  Part of the greatness of this series was the unexpected deaths of regulars.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 27, 2013, 07:18:24 PM
They kill Daryl off and I 'll stop watching.


About time for the old dude with one leg to be a Zombie......just has to soon.......I just know it
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 27, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
They kill Daryl off and I 'll stop watching.


About time for the old dude with one leg to be a Zombie......just has to soon.......I just know it
yeh

I thought he was going last week
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 27, 2013, 07:52:12 PM
DVR will be doing double duty tonight

I think they need to kill off a star sometime soon. I found it hard to believe none if the regulars went down in last weeks fracas.  Part of the greatness of this series was the unexpected deaths of regulars.
They intimated that they were going to do that, and also said that it was going to get "much darker very quickly", with many more zombies this year, (last week's peek showed some of that huge herd).

As said after you, they'd better not kill Daryl, (or Rick, IMO), or they'll lose a ton of viewers, including me.

I wouldn't mind the kid being zombie bait ... wouldn't mind that at all. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: birdwatcher on October 27, 2013, 08:17:49 PM
Maybe it will be Glen, since he gets beaten to death with a baseball bat in the comics. Pretty grim.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 27, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Tyreese has gone over the edge.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 27, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
I'm thinking that Carol is the murderer ... she's taking on the conscience of the protector, and getting rid of the sick ones. Just a guess.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 27, 2013, 10:14:02 PM
I'm thinking that Carol is the murderer ... she's taking on the conscience of the protector, and getting rid of the sick ones. Just a guess.
I actually guessed something correctly for a change ... go figure.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 28, 2013, 02:19:12 AM
I thought Tyrese was a goner. Dude's probably the 2nd bad*** character in the show now.

To get away with that horde with no scratches or bites. Yep, you're bad*** (but youre not Daryl).

I was also blown away when Carol admitted to the murders, like "yeah I did, what now?".

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 28, 2013, 02:54:45 AM
ok i tried not read comments cause it went to commercial with brotha man in a swarm of zombies

i knew home girl did it cause she was too emotional


and old dude should have got some old english for the sick

it's a laxative
better than ****
calm down your nerves 
and shake off any zombie virus

*sippin*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 28, 2013, 02:55:45 AM
****
starts with a V ends with an A


lol wow
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 10, 2013, 10:01:01 PM

Spoiler Alert (if you haven't seen episode 4:5):



s baaaaaa-aaaack!!!

The Governor!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 10, 2013, 11:09:18 PM

Spoiler Alert (if you haven't seen episode 4:5):



I definitely think the Gov's going after Michonne first ... Rick is an enemy, but he also has a certain amount of respect for Rick, being the same "kind" of person, but just with a more honorable objective, in his own view. (Didn't he say something similar once?).

The gov took out Andrea, too, so the group is not without it's own reasons for revenge, including Rick, and Michonne has almost as most animosity for the Gov as he does for her. Looked like only three tents with the Gov, too, so probably the same two guys.

A real interesting dynamic will be what Daryl thinks of Rick, and how he reacts, when he finds out about Carol and if he leaves, (i see him def. going after Carol somehow). Also, what Tyreese does and how he reacts to the knowledge of what carol did.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on November 11, 2013, 02:32:45 AM
that was the best episode of the walking dead i've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: DesertDweller on November 13, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
Beware, the Governor is lurking!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 13, 2013, 01:35:08 PM
The quality this season has improved dramatically, after a fairly crappy seasons 2+3 (with some exceptions). 

Curious to see how the new showrunner deals with the Governor, since he was a character with potential who was developed pretty poorly, and the sequence where they drove him away last year was maybe the worst of the entire series.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on November 13, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
My prediction is that when michonne and Herschel go out on a run the governor is going to snag them. Herschel is gonna do his whole inspirational bit before dying but the guvna shows no mercy. He may even replace tyreese aka comics. Michonne is a prisoner escapes
By messing the guvna up pretty bad. He returns randomly in the second half on a tank
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 17, 2013, 09:13:39 PM
Didn't think they'd go back and re-trace the governor's steps, but I guess they kind of had to, with a lot of time passing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 17, 2013, 10:58:07 PM
The question this week (on Talking Dead) was "Do you think the Governor changes for the better, (now that he has the little girl to take care of), or is he pure evil?"

I believe, if anything, this could potentially make him even MORE evil, re-energized and with renewed focus. Now more than ever, with the town gone, he NEEDS the prison, and revenge on the others is even more justified.

Hadn't heard that Chris Hardwick's dad had died, (Billy Hardwick, Pro Bowling Champion) ... sad, Chris is a good guy, and he almost lost it there talking about it. Very touching. Rest in peace, Billy.

They COULD potentially turn the whole thing around and end up making the gov a part of the group, but I just don't see that happening. I think he's a purpose-driven man, and his purpose for a long time was taking care of his daughter and being ruthless about it.

He lost that for a while, and now it's back. Anyone else see something else happening?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on November 18, 2013, 12:00:42 AM
I still think the Governor's evil. However, I think he is clinging to the family  because he still misses his daughter. As much of a psychopath as he is, he still loves his daughter a lot. Remember in season 3 when he will do anything just to kill Michonna. I think he is on a mission at least to keep the little girl alive, even if it means trying to kill the people in the prison (Rick, etc) for resources in order to do so
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 18, 2013, 12:44:56 AM
All deem fools be eaten or killed by d no count governor

Leavin his crazy tail alone.....talk n

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 18, 2013, 03:01:08 AM
(http://static.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/pandorum.jpg)

bye Daryl...



































sike!!








http://www.hypable.com/2013/02/02/rumour-control-photos-of-daryl-dixons-fate-in-the-walking-dead/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 18, 2013, 03:33:45 AM
Governor is a good dude now

he has a reason to live
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 18, 2013, 06:50:53 AM
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bye Daryl...

looks like a fake though...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 24, 2013, 12:03:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5eAtEdL.gif)

Governor showed some sick handles last episode...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 24, 2013, 12:06:29 PM
Governor is whipped
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2013, 12:18:07 PM
(http://static.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/pandorum.jpg)

bye Daryl...



































sike!!








http://www.hypable.com/2013/02/02/rumour-control-photos-of-daryl-dixons-fate-in-the-walking-dead/



haaaaaa.  lOL.      ...had me going for a sec ........

Better not kill him off the show
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 24, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
(http://static.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/pandorum.jpg)

bye Daryl...

sike!!


http://www.hypable.com/2013/02/02/rumour-control-photos-of-daryl-dixons-fate-in-the-walking-dead/


haaaaaa.  lOL.      ...had me going for a sec ........

Better not kill him off the show

Yeah, they'd lose a TON of fans if Daryl was offed ... me included. He and Rick are long-termers ... I like Michonne and Maggie, too, (and Tyreese, though he's a bit unstable right now ... not sure where he's headed).

I actually think the kid (Carl) has improved a BIT ... I was ready to see him as walker bait last season, not quite as adamant about that as I was, (still don't like him, though).

Hershel and Beth I like, too, but I think they're way too nice to survive for long in this new world, you've gotta be a bit ruthless to live long. Glenn's a good guy, but Carol has blurred the line between justifiable homicide and murder, and I don't think that can end up anywhere positive.

If ANYone goes in the near future, I think she's the best candidate.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on November 25, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
The ad-line for next week was: "Many shall fall" ... looks like the balance of power, (AND the cast), could be changing drastically.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 01, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
OK, so what is it about this one-eyed psychopath that women keep falling for him in like two days time? I don't get it ... I always thought women were more perceptive than that. Here we go ... "All will fight, some will fall."
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 01, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
Mid-season finale?!? We've got another wait ahead? What the heck happened to a "full" tv season? They used to run during school season, from early September until early June ... this is ridiculous!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 01, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
Another major character bites the dust .....wow

Nobody makes it
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 01, 2013, 10:00:29 PM


SPOILER ALERT!
Another major character bites the dust .....wow

Nobody makes it
At least the Governor's demise makes up for Hershel ... but I'm still mad. And the baby?!? Really??? I hope that's just inferred and not reality ... that she's on the bus.

February ... AGAIN?!? Man, what an absurd "season" schedule!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 01, 2013, 10:04:31 PM
I think she ( Judith ) is dead, blood in the carrier and consistent with the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 01, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Well the writer said on TV.......the more beloved the character the MOrE brutal the way they will kill them off.......a great Actor    deserves  the worst dead possible

This fat writer is a sick dude........he is twisted
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on December 01, 2013, 11:15:35 PM
Well the writer said on TV.......the more beloved the character the MOrE brutal the way they will kill them off.......a great Actor    deserves  the worst dead possible

This fat writer is a sick dude........he is twisted

The 'writer' is the creator of the entire series lol.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on December 01, 2013, 11:32:12 PM
I'm sad after this episode why Herschel.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 02, 2013, 12:47:50 AM
I'm sad after this episode why Herschel.
on the real

he is a better place

he didnt scream
he knew it was comin

i would def put that up there with that game of thrones shocker..

*sippin*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 02, 2013, 02:36:15 AM
Im I the only one who was more frightened at Lizzie and Mika shooting people in the head than Hershel getting chopped.

My heart jumped when I saw those little girls just blast a couple of skulls.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on December 02, 2013, 06:01:48 AM
I think she ( Judith ) is dead, blood in the carrier and consistent with the comics.

That scene in the comics is such a punch in the gut.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 02, 2013, 09:36:50 AM
Mid-season finale?!? We've got another wait ahead? What the heck happened to a "full" tv season? They used to run during school season, from early September until early June ... this is ridiculous!

It's not a coincidence that the quality of TV shows has gone up as the episode counts have gone down. 


i would def put that up there with that game of thrones shocker..

That's funny, as soon as that scene started my wife said "Hershel's definitely dead, they want their own Game of Thrones moment."


I liked the episode but it kinda felt like this was how last season was supposed to end but they had to stay at the prison due to the budget, so they just threw in the disease subplot and then ran it back the way they'd planned.  I also don't think Judith's dead, they're faking out comic readers who know she dies.  Guessing Michonne or someone else with bloody hands grabbed her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on December 02, 2013, 09:52:29 AM
That was certainly an over the top thriller.  Herschel is not entirely surprising, but the baby was a blow
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 02, 2013, 12:10:39 PM
Okay, can anyone tell me, did they show the governor after she shot him, did they show him die? I mean, I watched it but I must have missed it b/c I don't think he is dead. If they didn't show it, it didn't happen. I think she shot a walker instead of him... Michonne left him there to be eaten, if he was going to die, I think she does more than stab him, she'd want to be sure he wasn't going to make it somehow. I'm trying to think of one major character dying and them not showing it... why wouldn't they show the governor being shot or at least his dead body... we've seen worse than a bullet to the head. AK/Judith may be dead and they didn't show it b/c it's a baby (I don't think she is regardless of the comic) but not showing the governor get his due, I don't see it.

I knew the kids would have to shoot "someone" eventually but at that age I thought it would have to be a Walker. I just didn't think they were gonna be... just wow, blew my mind. "Pow, one to tha head, now you know he dead!" 0.0

Rick can't fight for nothing! Was an officer and he always takes an L, he shouldn't be taking whoopings... why people follow him, I don't know. Maybe it's b/c he always finds a way to escape death even though it seems he should die. Heck I'd follow his lucky butt too.

Now, why would they use the tank on the prison that much? I mean if you actually wanted to seize it to live there, wouldn't you want walls protecting you?? Sure, knock down the fence, you can put that back up. Why blow up the buildings? Were those people as crazy as the Governor?

M. killing Governor, saw that coming from a mile away... just expected more after the things he did! M. would have filleted him after all that. I like that she lived, I wanted more from her given what she witnessed him do to Herschel! Where was she the entire fight? She cut herself loose and what, pulled up a chair to watch the fight? She should have pulled the knife up and slit him in two from the stomach up! I think she was in love with Andrea, you don't just stab someone once, when you are as skilled as she is with swords, especially after what he did to your love! I would have left him for the walkers but I would have chopped his arms and legs off first! He deserved an epic death, not an easy death! M. will get her a girlfriend now, thanks to the kids for killing the sisters g/f! Lol. I said before the episode that she would live and her g/f would die all so M. could have a love interest... she loves people she can take care of, damsels in distress!

Poor Herschel, I knew he was going to die b/c they had a replacement doctor in the black dude (I don't remember names too well lol)! I said, he's a big character but he is not as crucial to their survival anymore b/c someone else could do his job but better. As soon as they gave the black guy an unresolved storyline (alcoholism/why), I knew he wasn't going to die. They didn't give that Indian doctor much of a storyline so you knew he wasn't making it!

4 black people and they all survive???? Where they do that at??? I thought the brother (dude that beat Rick up lol), was going to die if anyone. M. was going to live, I had no doubt. The sister was going to live and I knew that b/c she is gonna be the doctors love interest. I told you why doc would live. Big bro was the odd man out even though I like him. I guess I should have known he would live just so the Carol situation can be resolved eventually.

I loved this episode even though I was disappointed in the way they killed off the govna (again, I doubt he's dead)! Yeah they could have done all of the storyline of this season with the gov last season but I like that they devoted whole episodes to his s/l and didn't rush it. I enjoyed the 2 episodes with him trying to go straight. I hate that I have to wait 2 months for more!! Soaps do an hour a day 5 days a week, yeah they don't have to do all the makeup and scenery but can't they at least give us an hour a week for ever? Lol.

2 months, hurry and end!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on December 02, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Okay, can anyone tell me, did they show the governor after she shot him, did they show him die? I mean, I watched it but I must have missed it b/c I don't think he is dead. If they didn't show it, it didn't happen. I think she shot a walker instead of him... Michonne left him there to be eaten, if he was going to die, I think she does more than stab him, she'd want to be sure he wasn't going to make it somehow. I'm trying to think of one major character dying and them not showing it... why wouldn't they show the governor being shot or at least his dead body... we've seen worse than a bullet to the head. AK/Judith may be dead and they didn't show it b/c it's a baby (I don't think she is regardless of the comic) but not showing the governor get his due, I don't see it.

I knew the kids would have to shoot "someone" eventually but at that age I thought it would have to be a Walker. I just didn't think they were gonna be... just wow, blew my mind. "Pow, one to tha head, now you know he dead!" 0.0

Rick can't fight for nothing! Was an officer and he always takes an L, he shouldn't be taking whoopings... why people follow him, I don't know. Maybe it's b/c he always finds a way to escape death even though it seems he should die. Heck I'd follow his lucky butt too.

Now, why would they use the tank on the prison that much? I mean if you actually wanted to seize it to live there, wouldn't you want walls protecting you?? Sure, knock down the fence, you can put that back up. Why blow up the buildings? Were those people as crazy as the Governor?

M. killing Governor, saw that coming from a mile away... just expected more after the things he did! M. would have filleted him after all that. I like that she lived, I wanted more from her given what she witnessed him do to Herschel! Where was she the entire fight? She cut herself loose and what, pulled up a chair to watch the fight? She should have pulled the knife up and slit him in two from the stomach up! I think she was in love with Andrea, you don't just stab someone once, when you are as skilled as she is with swords, especially after what he did to your love! I would have left him for the walkers but I would have chopped his arms and legs off first! He deserved an epic death, not an easy death! M. will get her a girlfriend now, thanks to the kids for killing the sisters g/f! Lol. I said before the episode that she would live and her g/f would die all so M. could have a love interest... she loves people she can take care of, damsels in distress!

Poor Herschel, I knew he was going to die b/c they had a replacement doctor in the black dude (I don't remember names too well lol)! I said, he's a big character but he is not as crucial to their survival anymore b/c someone else could do his job but better. As soon as they gave the black guy an unresolved storyline (alcoholism/why), I knew he wasn't going to die. They didn't give that Indian doctor much of a storyline so you knew he wasn't making it!

4 black people and they all survive???? Where they do that at??? I thought the brother (dude that beat Rick up lol), was going to die if anyone. M. was going to live, I had no doubt. The sister was going to live and I knew that b/c she is gonna be the doctors love interest. I told you why doc would live. Big bro was the odd man out even though I like him. I guess I should have known he would live just so the Carol situation can be resolved eventually.

I loved this episode even though I was disappointed in the way they killed off the govna (again, I doubt he's dead)! Yeah they could have done all of the storyline of this season with the gov last season but I like that they devoted whole episodes to his s/l and didn't rush it. I enjoyed the 2 episodes with him trying to go straight. I hate that I have to wait 2 months for more!! Soaps do an hour a day 5 days a week, yeah they don't have to do all the makeup and scenery but can't they at least give us an hour a week for ever? Lol.

2 months, hurry and end!!!

The Governor is most certainly dead. He was beaten by Rick, impaled with a katana and shot in the head presumably by his girlfriend or whatever. Even if she hadnt shot him, a walker would of just come over and devoured him. And even if there were no walkers he would of bled out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on December 02, 2013, 01:21:02 PM
The governor is definitely dead, his name of was on the 'dead list' on the talk show, and the actor who played the governor talked about his death, briefly. 

Interestingly enough, Judith's name was not on the 'dead list', and the writer who was being interviewed would not give any details when asked.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on December 02, 2013, 01:32:35 PM
The governor is definitely dead, his name of was on the 'dead list' on the talk show, and the actor who played the governor talked about his death, briefly. 

Interestingly enough, Judith's name was not on the 'dead list', and the writer who was being interviewed would not give any details when asked.

governor is definitely dead

can you imagine if the 2nd half is set place 15-20 years later and Judith is actually still alive
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 02, 2013, 07:26:28 PM
Shot of the stunt doubles on set:

(http://i.imgur.com/OES6Ahy.png)

Carl's double is a 31 year old woman  ;D  Also I guess Rick either doesn't have one or he was off work that day.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 02, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
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Interestingly enough, Judith's name was not on the 'dead list', and the writer who was being interviewed would not give any details when asked.

This show is not always right.   David Morrisey lied to them the week before about being good.   I would not read into the dead list.

Kirkman actually said there was a lot of blood in the carrier. So he aluded to the fact that she could be dead. 

I found it wild, how long Herschel lived after having  his carotid artery cut.  I think he would have passed out swiftly from  exsanguination and died and not all the crawling around the tank.   Ditto for the governor.  He practically gets stabbed right through his spine, right where his subclavian artery is located and he lives like forever.  Both would have went into shock and passed out I wager.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 02, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
Okay, you say the Governor is dead but why is he the only person to be killed and not be shown when he was a major character... on the talking dead they talked why it was Michonne who got to kill him, technically she didn't kill him, the girlfriend shot him in the head. I already said the zombies didn't get him b/c the g/f could have turned the gun on them instead of him. I just don't get how a major character like The Governor doesn't get an on screen death, they panned away. Michonne should have sliced and diced him if they really wanted her to enact revenge.

If he is dead, I think it's the worst death they have done, especially for a character as big as he was. Why didn't they talk to the actor and everyone cry about him leaving? Surely he was a good person outside of the character. They barely mentioned the guy who played The Governor and he talked very little. I understand that Herschel was a big part of the good guys but they spent the entire episode gushing over him.

I don't expect him back anytime soon but I could see them bringing him back in the future and it wouldn't be farfetched that he survived.

Okay, he's dead, I'm just mad that he didn't die a horrible death like the horrible person he was, he got off too easy!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 02, 2013, 09:54:08 PM
I was hoping that Michonne would climb in the tank and blow the Governors head clean off with he main gun...... ;D

I agree ...he died way too easy death .......should have at least backed the tank over him.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Eddie20 on December 02, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
Okay, you say the Governor is dead but why is he the only person to be killed and not be shown when he was a major character... on the talking dead they talked why it was Michonne who got to kill him, technically she didn't kill him, the girlfriend shot him in the head. I already said the zombies didn't get him b/c the g/f could have turned the gun on them instead of him. I just don't get how a major character like The Governor doesn't get an on screen death, they panned away. Michonne should have sliced and diced him if they really wanted her to enact revenge.

If he is dead, I think it's the worst death they have done, especially for a character as big as he was. Why didn't they talk to the actor and everyone cry about him leaving? Surely he was a good person outside of the character. They barely mentioned the guy who played The Governor and he talked very little. I understand that Herschel was a big part of the good guys but they spent the entire episode gushing over him.

I don't expect him back anytime soon but I could see them bringing him back in the future and it wouldn't be farfetched that he survived.

Okay, he's dead, I'm just mad that he didn't die a horrible death like the horrible person he was, he got off too easy!

Don't forget that on Talking Dead Kirkman said that the more beloved the character the more brutal the death. So it wouldn't surprise me to think he feels the exact opposite for such a despicable character that he would give him an unmemorable off-screen death.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: chicagoceltic on December 02, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Okay, you say the Governor is dead but why is he the only person to be killed and not be shown when he was a major character... on the talking dead they talked why it was Michonne who got to kill him, technically she didn't kill him, the girlfriend shot him in the head. I already said the zombies didn't get him b/c the g/f could have turned the gun on them instead of him. I just don't get how a major character like The Governor doesn't get an on screen death, they panned away. Michonne should have sliced and diced him if they really wanted her to enact revenge.

If he is dead, I think it's the worst death they have done, especially for a character as big as he was. Why didn't they talk to the actor and everyone cry about him leaving? Surely he was a good person outside of the character. They barely mentioned the guy who played The Governor and he talked very little. I understand that Herschel was a big part of the good guys but they spent the entire episode gushing over him.

I don't expect him back anytime soon but I could see them bringing him back in the future and it wouldn't be farfetched that he survived.

Okay, he's dead, I'm just mad that he didn't die a horrible death like the horrible person he was, he got off too easy!
There was also a bit of symbolism where the chess piece that the little girl drew an eye patch on and gave to the govenor was crushed just after the gun shot.  I believe that that was the writer's way of confirming his death.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 02, 2013, 11:20:39 PM
Okay, you say the Governor is dead but why is he the only person to be killed and not be shown when he was a major character...

Lori.  Shot AND eaten offscreen.  Though I guess she technically died during the childbirth.

Also (sorta) Dale.  And Merle, though he showed up as a zombie anyway.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 02, 2013, 11:59:34 PM
Okay, you say the Governor is dead but why is he the only person to be killed and not be shown when he was a major character...

Lori.  Shot AND eaten offscreen.  Though I guess she technically died during the childbirth.

Also (sorta) Dale.  And Merle, though he showed up as a zombie anyway.
Yeah, he's definitely dead, as David Morrissey was interviewed on Talking Dead afterward and talked about his demise and leaving the show. He was stabbed with a sword through the heart AND shot as well, no coming back from that ... except maybe as a walker.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 03, 2013, 12:03:11 AM
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Interestingly enough, Judith's name was not on the 'dead list', and the writer who was being interviewed would not give any details when asked.

This show is not always right.   David Morrisey lied to them the week before about being good.   I would not read into the dead list.

Kirkman actually said there was a lot of blood in the carrier. So he aluded to the fact that she could be dead. 

I found it wild, how long Herschel lived after having  his carotid artery cut.  I think he would have passed out swiftly from  exsanguination and died and not all the crawling around the tank.   Ditto for the governor.  He practically gets stabbed right through his spine, right where his subclavian artery is located and he lives like forever.  Both would have went into shock and passed out I wager.
Judith is NOT dead, no way ... she's the only hope that the group has, and what kind of zombie would undo her car seat safety strap and take her out before eating her, lol? She, (or some remnants), would have still been in the seat, or the entire thing would have been gone.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on December 03, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
Mid-season finale?!? We've got another wait ahead? What the heck happened to a "full" tv season? They used to run during school season, from early September until early June ... this is ridiculous!

It's not a coincidence that the quality of TV shows has gone up as the episode counts have gone down. 


i would def put that up there with that game of thrones shocker..

That's funny, as soon as that scene started my wife said "Hershel's definitely dead, they want their own Game of Thrones moment."


I liked the episode but it kinda felt like this was how last season was supposed to end but they had to stay at the prison due to the budget, so they just threw in the disease subplot and then ran it back the way they'd planned.  I also don't think Judith's dead, they're faking out comic readers who know she dies.  Guessing Michonne or someone else with bloody hands grabbed her.
Disagree with the first statement ... ninety percent of tv today is garbage, and I generally watch sports or movies for that reason. Very few sitcoms are funny or can make a decent joke without it being sexual or rude, and police drama is primarily about desensitizing death, with people standing around making jokes about someone's dead body. It's predictable, low-class and boring, but that's just me. I'd take a show like St. Elsewhere, Brooklyn Bridge, Northern Exposure, Twin Peaks, M.A.S.H., Cheers, China Beach, WKRP In Cincinnati, The Wonder Years, (I could go on-and-on), over the stuff today in a flash. To each his own.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on December 04, 2013, 02:41:47 AM
It seems like cable has always went with shorter seasons for its sitcoms and dramas.  I don't know why that is, but there's got to be some reason for it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 02, 2014, 10:58:58 PM
Next Sunday, folks, (for those who follow) ... should be an interesting second half of the season, with the group trying to reunite after being scattered to the wind.

We'll have, what, two episodes and then have to wait for late October again?!? Sorry, being heavily sarcastic, but I don't get these television "seasons" anymore.

Used to be a "season" for a show was the same as the school season, from like mid-September to mid-June, and no "breaks" in-between, (for MONTHS!). I find this new format frustrating and absurd, personally.

Oh, well ... still looking forward to next week.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on February 02, 2014, 11:11:16 PM
Next Sunday, folks, (for those who follow) ... should be an interesting second half of the season, with the group trying to reunite after being scattered to the wind.

We'll have, what, two episodes and then have to wait for late October again?!? Sorry, being heavily sarcastic, but I don't get these television "seasons" anymore.

Used to be a "season" for a show was the same as the school season, from like mid-September to mid-June, and no "breaks" in-between, (for MONTHS!). I find this new format frustrating and absurd, personally.

Oh, well ... still looking forward to next week.
i agree. i don't know what it takes to make a television series but my my online critic is saying its just poor management. don't they film over the summer and during the 1st half of the season ? i wonder what the benefits are from splitting it up ? its not like they need the extra time to market the show. i'm a huge fan of the comics and prefer them to the show. season 3 started off strong and then proved to be awful... completely ruined the governor and the prisoners. this season is going well so far but at this point i go in expecting the episodes to be bad. well i got off topic
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on February 02, 2014, 11:17:19 PM
Used to be a "season" for a show was the same as the school season, from like mid-September to mid-June, and no "breaks" in-between, (for MONTHS!). I find this new format frustrating and absurd, personally.


I found this answer on a site called quora.com.  Not sure how factual it is, but the answers make some sense.

"The network TV season is driven much more by advertising needs, and network executives contractually require more episodes of hit shows in order to have more inventory to sell.

Cable shows have shorter seasons for several reasons:
•Less dependency on advertising because of subscriber revenues.
•Narrower definition of success -- i.e., a "terrible" showing of 3MM viewers on a network would be a huge audience for cable.
•More control by the auteur: Because budgets are smaller, cable shows can build an audience over time. Therefore, executive producers, show runners, and other creative leads of a show have more clout to be able to insist on shorter seasons.
•Counter programming: When the first cable networks were starting to do original programming, they programmed in the summer - when networks were on hiatus from original programming, and showing only reruns. The summer "off season" was about 13 weeks - giving cable shows a defined time slot to start to carve audience from the network reruns."
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on February 02, 2014, 11:27:39 PM

Disagree with the first statement ... ninety percent of tv today is garbage, and I generally watch sports or movies for that reason. Very few sitcoms are funny or can make a decent joke without it being sexual or rude, and police drama is primarily about desensitizing death, with people standing around making jokes about someone's dead body. It's predictable, low-class and boring, but that's just me. I'd take a show like St. Elsewhere, Brooklyn Bridge, Northern Exposure, Twin Peaks, M.A.S.H., Cheers, China Beach, WKRP In Cincinnati, The Wonder Years, (I could go on-and-on), over the stuff today in a flash. To each his own.

I would agree that most TV is trash (especially on the networks), but the peaks of great TV have never been higher right now.  Over the last 15 years we've series like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Deadwood, etc.  Cable TV has allowed true auteurs to have free reign over very well-produced serialized dramas, which as far as I know has never happened in the history of TV (Twin Peaks would be an exception to the rule).  I love episodic TV as much as the next guy, but you just don't get as connected to the story as you do in a serial.  And the stigma if acting on TV is now gone, so the world's best actors are now showing up in TV.  These are golden times to have DV-R.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on February 02, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
Anyone know how long I'll have to wait to see the new episodes of Walking Dead on netflix?  I has no cable right now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 03, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
Anyone know how long I'll have to wait to see the new episodes of Walking Dead on netflix?  I has no cable right now.

Probably a good 6 months.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on February 03, 2014, 12:21:05 AM
Very excited to be out of the governor arc! Anyone read the comics? Mini spoilers, we should be meeting abraham And the hunters soon
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 10, 2014, 12:15:52 AM
What yall thinking bout this.....?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 10, 2014, 12:26:49 AM
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 10, 2014, 12:38:52 AM
Im half way thru the new ep
I come back at the end with my
thoughts
*sippin*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Tnerb02 on February 10, 2014, 12:50:22 AM
It wasn't a bad episode but it was definitely a filler episode. Hopefully the pace picks up.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 10, 2014, 03:45:54 AM
The kid had actually become almost bearable to me in the last couple of episodes, now he's just taken on Andrea's "Can she get any more moronic?" mantle, and the thankless little creep needs to go.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 10, 2014, 04:02:30 AM
It wasn't a bad episode but it was definitely a filler episode. Hopefully the pace picks up.
Looks like it will pick up a bit, but we've only learned the fate of three so far, so more catch-up filler episodes to come, too. Without spoiler, I liked how this ended, in a different manner than how most episodes do.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 10, 2014, 07:17:11 AM
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Looks like it will pick up a bit, but we've only learned the fate of three so far, so more catch-up filler episodes to come, too. Without spoiler, I liked how this ended, in a different manner than how most episodes do.

I think next week will be filler with the other cast, too.   It just makes sense.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on February 10, 2014, 07:28:08 AM
I don't mind the slower paced episodes from time to time.  Robert Kirkman (creator of the series) has basically said the Walking Dead is Carl's story (even moreso than Rick's) and I think this episode was an attempt to show the particular struggles of Carl.  He's going through the struggle between boy (chocolate pudding) and man (breaking away from his father) that all teenagers go through, but he's doing it during a time when he's also lost his mother, all of his friends, and his entire way of life.

I dig the concept.  I just don't particularly like the actor portraying Carl, and I don't like how the character has been written to date.  So, when you take a largely unlikeable character, and try to rehabilitate him by building an episode around him, it can make for a rough episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on February 10, 2014, 12:07:16 PM
I am just catching the newest episode now. Oh man, Carl is the worst. He really needs to go.

If the series is about to be built around his journey, the writers and directors need to stop creating soap opera stories and acting situations for him. His moments are so cliche.

"Hey dad, remember Shane?" ....gimme a break. Groan....
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 10, 2014, 12:09:28 PM
Carl is an annoying brat. Overall, I thought episode was okay. Liked the Michonne flashbacks. Hope they tell us more of her story as the season moves along.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 10, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
Carl is an annoying brat. Overall, I thought episode was okay. Liked the Michonne flashbacks. Hope they tell us more of her story as the season moves along.
agreed.

liked the flashback with Michonne.  thought for sure she was going to make the governor one of her walkers.  would have been such poetic justice

Is it wrong I kept hoping that Carl was going to be bitten?   took only a few minutes to make me really hate his character this week. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: indeedproceed on February 10, 2014, 12:36:53 PM
I heard next week on 'The Walking Dead' the dread-locked one will completely crumble when the pressure is on and it really matters, but after they all barely escape with their skins intact from a situation that should've been relatively easy to handle, the dread-locked one will accuse everyone else of being spineless crybabies.

What is that person's name..its driving me nuts!

Right..Gerald Wallace!

JUST KIDDING YOU GUYS, I DON'T WATCH THIS SHOW! No Spoilers!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 10, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
Anybody think the note from Joe Jr about not being able to put down his dad is foreshadowing for Carl eventually having to do the same thing? 

Or did the fakeout toward the end of this episode take care of that?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on February 10, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
Anybody think the note from Joe Jr about not being able to put down his dad is foreshadowing for Carl eventually having to do the same thing? 

Or did the fakeout toward the end of this episode take care of that?

I think the latter.  Carl thought he could , and he was wrong.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 10, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
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I think the latter.  Carl thought he could , and he was wrong.

Agree, TP.   Everyone thinks they are tough but most guys wilt under real pressure.   Guys pee their pants in combat for instance, doesn't make them cowards.   Only the crazy revel in that stuff but Brave men can overcome their fears and act.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: PaulAllen on February 10, 2014, 05:51:35 PM
Carl is more annoying than AJ Soprano after Junior shot Tony..
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 10, 2014, 07:34:34 PM
Anybody think the note from Joe Jr about not being able to put down his dad is foreshadowing for Carl eventually having to do the same thing? 

Or did the fakeout toward the end of this episode take care of that?

I think the latter.  Carl thought he could , and he was wrong.

Yeah I'm inclined to think so too.  Too bad, when that moment happened I thought they might actually have the guts to kill off a major character this year. 

I'm guessing that particular artistic decision won't happen til Andrew Lincoln decides he wants more money.


EDIT:  Weird that Carl "couldn't do it" when he already put down his mother without much hesitation.  Guess he liked Dad best.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 11, 2014, 12:23:08 AM
Anybody think the note from Joe Jr about not being able to put down his dad is foreshadowing for Carl eventually having to do the same thing? 

Or did the fakeout toward the end of this episode take care of that?

I think the latter.  Carl thought he could , and he was wrong.

Yeah I'm inclined to think so too.  Too bad, when that moment happened I thought they might actually have the guts to kill off a major character this year. 

I'm guessing that particular artistic decision won't happen til Andrew Lincoln decides he wants more money.


EDIT:  Weird that Carl "couldn't do it" when he already put down his mother without much hesitation.  Guess he liked Dad best.
Agree.

I don't think it was a setup for anything deeper than what happened at the end ... no way they would kill off Rick, (I'd stop watching - same with Daryl, not that they care, but I think that's a common sentiment).

SPOILER: Best part of this one?

Michonne and Hershel's head at the git ... I was hoping she'd stick it on a pole to inspire, like Lord of the Flies...

Michonne: "Hey, look! The old guy's still with us ... and he hasn't stopped preaching!"

Hershel: "Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle ... argh!" (Jk - loved Hershel).

They could just stick the pole in the ground at every camp site and it would act like a "citronella candle" version of Michonne's two walkers, masking them as carrion.

And he has such a calming influence on Little Bum-Kicker, (who I believe is very much alive and well ... and filling her diaper with walker grease and the remnants of the mitochondrial answer to the horror, IMO).

Just an idea ... didn't say it was good.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: barefacedmonk on February 11, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Anybody think the note from Joe Jr about not being able to put down his dad is foreshadowing for Carl eventually having to do the same thing? 

Or did the fakeout toward the end of this episode take care of that?

I think the latter.  Carl thought he could , and he was wrong.

Yeah I'm inclined to think so too.  Too bad, when that moment happened I thought they might actually have the guts to kill off a major character this year. 

I'm guessing that particular artistic decision won't happen til Andrew Lincoln decides he wants more money.


EDIT:  Weird that Carl "couldn't do it" when he already put down his mother without much hesitation.  Guess he liked Dad best.
Agree.

I don't think it was a setup for anything deeper than what happened at the end ... no way they would kill off Rick, (I'd stop watching - same with Daryl, not that they care, but I think that's a common sentiment).

SPOILER: Best part of this one?

Michonne and Hershel's head at the git ... I was hoping she'd stick it on a pole to inspire, like Lord of the Flies...

Michonne: "Hey, look! The old guy's still with us ... and he hasn't stopped preaching!"

Hershel: "Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle ... argh!" (Jk - loved Hershel).

They could just stick the pole in the ground at every camp site and it would act like a "citronella candle" version of Michonne's two walkers, masking them as carrion.

And he has such a calming influence on Little Bum-Kicker, (who I believe is very much alive and well ... and filling her diaper with walker grease and the remnants of the mitochondrial answer to the horror, IMO).

Just an idea ... didn't say it was good.

TP. I got a chuckle out of that and I always like your posts in this thread. :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 11, 2014, 07:12:37 AM
I had hoped Carl gets eaten

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 12, 2014, 04:24:07 AM
I had hoped Carl gets eaten

Cold. LOL

I woulda popped Rick in the head and moved on. He was already "dead" I'm not trying to join him, daddy or not!

I wonder if Michonne had to end her baby zombie? I wanna see it... is that weird? I want to see more sword action... slice a few more zombies up. I could use more zombie killing no matter how they do it. Glad she didn't lose herself this time, I like her character... slice and dice!

Carl does irk my nerves but I think it's right that he learns to survive on his own, he may need to one day. He made me want some pudding. 0.0

Where is "***-kicker"? They coulda told me if she was okay.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 23, 2014, 09:09:58 PM
Rick, take a minute to raid a closet for a new shirt, Buddy ... that thing's gonna change into a walker soon, lol.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on February 23, 2014, 09:36:59 PM
Rosita, wow ... this will make the kid a bit more tolerable. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: barefacedmonk on February 23, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
Rick, take a minute to raid a closet for a new shirt, Buddy ... that thing's gonna change into a walker soon, lol.

LOL!!! TP.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 23, 2014, 09:41:04 PM
Glen is really annoying this season. He use to be one of my favorite characters, too.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on February 23, 2014, 10:33:35 PM
Love Abraham. Perfect actor to play him and he acts just like the comics which means he's gonna be one tough dude. Wish they didnt die his hair though. He looked fine without it on the aftershow.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: lon3lytoaster on February 23, 2014, 11:51:44 PM
Love Abraham. Perfect actor to play him and he acts just like the comics which means he's gonna be one tough dude. Wish they didnt die his hair though. He looked fine without it on the aftershow.

Thinking literally the same about the hair. Distracted me endlessly. It's like a comical clown red in the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 02, 2014, 10:22:43 PM
Boring episode. Seasons staring to show a lot of filler as the show has started to inch closer to where the comics are out currently. Cant have them running out of source material.

Hopefully Beth dies next ep...#KillBeth2014

(Not a comic spoiler, nobody has any idea when/if Beth dies)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Eddie20 on March 02, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Boring episode. Seasons staring to show a lot of filler as the show has started to inch closer to where the comics are out currently. Cant have them running out of source material.

Agreed. Especially when compared, fairly or not, to the amazing True Detective.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 02, 2014, 11:19:22 PM
Boring episode. Seasons staring to show a lot of filler as the show has started to inch closer to where the comics are out currently. Cant have them running out of source material.

Hopefully Beth dies next ep...#KillBeth2014

(Not a comic spoiler, nobody has any idea when/if Beth dies)

My first impression of The Walking Dead was that it was a soap opera that happened to have zombies in it.  Tonight's episode seemed like business as usual.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on March 03, 2014, 12:27:53 AM
it's about time this show got back to character development and not stupid mindless conflict with a watered down guvna. the tv adaption doesnt deserve the actual spelling. AMC is a channel about characters so if you watch this show for the zombie killing and that alone i dont blame you for not liking it. i keep hearing the word filler but i dont think the people who throw this term around truly understand the point of this franchise. if you don't get it then im not going to waste my time. this franchise has never been about the zombies. if beth dies this season i will be disappointed in the writing staff. they tend to give a lot of screen time to the characters who are about to be offed and it was pretty predictable with herschel. i'll be annoyed since this is the first episode where you actually feel anything for beth and for her to die in the next 3 episodes is just kind of cheap. firing glen mazzarra was the best thing this show could of done and scott gimple is doing a fantastic job. i'll never forget when glen mozzarella(mazzarra) said on the talking dead that in season 3 there was going to be a whole episode of a cat and mouse chase with the guv/andrea ::). glen, like many of this shows viewers, did not understand this franchise. this episode had great moments. daryl's bolt being broken/split symbolizing him being broken at that moment was great. cinema is supposed to be an art form and its about time this show picks up the ball again. i guarantee season 5 will be the best season in the series. the new show runner had to clean up the mess glen mozzarella left behind and will only improve as he builds upon his own work. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 03, 2014, 01:01:19 AM
Yawn...


glad to know that these people have hidden pain and stuff

The finger on tv?

anyway back to the action
next week looks good!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: AshyLarry on March 03, 2014, 03:11:41 AM
The best part of tonight's walking dead experience was JB Smoove on talking dead. He should be in the actual show. It'd be a much different (better) show. He should've hosted the oscars.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 03, 2014, 06:55:45 AM
Show was a bit boring last night

I look for Beth to get munched ...  Usually happens when a character appears on Talking Dead , within three shows.

Not digging her character at all...expendable with all new females added
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 03, 2014, 08:35:30 AM
it's about time this show got back to character development and not stupid mindless conflict with a watered down guvna. the tv adaption doesnt deserve the actual spelling. AMC is a channel about characters so if you watch this show for the zombie killing and that alone i dont blame you for not liking it. i keep hearing the word filler but i dont think the people who throw this term around truly understand the point of this franchise. if you don't get it then im not going to waste my time. this franchise has never been about the zombies. if beth dies this season i will be disappointed in the writing staff. they tend to give a lot of screen time to the characters who are about to be offed and it was pretty predictable with herschel. i'll be annoyed since this is the first episode where you actually feel anything for beth and for her to die in the next 3 episodes is just kind of cheap. firing glen mazzarra was the best thing this show could of done and scott gimple is doing a fantastic job. i'll never forget when glen mozzarella(mazzarra) said on the talking dead that in season 3 there was going to be a whole episode of a cat and mouse chase with the guv/andrea ::). glen, like many of this shows viewers, did not understand this franchise. this episode had great moments. daryl's bolt being broken/split symbolizing him being broken at that moment was great. cinema is supposed to be an art form and its about time this show picks up the ball again. i guarantee season 5 will be the best season in the series. the new show runner had to clean up the mess glen mozzarella left behind and will only improve as he builds upon his own work.
I'm with you in the sense that the series strongpoint is the humans and the 'human condition' as it were.  Seeing what the living have to contend with to stay living and living together is the strength of the series. 
The zombies are really the backstory that provide the conditions/environment that drives the survivors to be who they are. 

last night was definitely a slow episode but getting an idea of what makes Daryl tick (which tbh wasn't much of a surprise) was good to see.  Hoping they can make something more out of Beth without having to kill her off.  a tad whiny for my liking but I can see how that would get to someone after a while.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 03, 2014, 10:32:49 AM
it's about time this show got back to character development and not stupid mindless conflict with a watered down guvna. the tv adaption doesnt deserve the actual spelling. AMC is a channel about characters so if you watch this show for the zombie killing and that alone i dont blame you for not liking it. i keep hearing the word filler but i dont think the people who throw this term around truly understand the point of this franchise. if you don't get it then im not going to waste my time. this franchise has never been about the zombies. if beth dies this season i will be disappointed in the writing staff. they tend to give a lot of screen time to the characters who are about to be offed and it was pretty predictable with herschel. i'll be annoyed since this is the first episode where you actually feel anything for beth and for her to die in the next 3 episodes is just kind of cheap. firing glen mazzarra was the best thing this show could of done and scott gimple is doing a fantastic job. i'll never forget when glen mozzarella(mazzarra) said on the talking dead that in season 3 there was going to be a whole episode of a cat and mouse chase with the guv/andrea ::). glen, like many of this shows viewers, did not understand this franchise. this episode had great moments. daryl's bolt being broken/split symbolizing him being broken at that moment was great. cinema is supposed to be an art form and its about time this show picks up the ball again. i guarantee season 5 will be the best season in the series. the new show runner had to clean up the mess glen mozzarella left behind and will only improve as he builds upon his own work.

Have you read the comic books? In the context of the comic books and even the show tonights episode other than character development could be considered filer. If you took  tonights episode out of the show would it change anything? The underlying plot isn't going to progress until everyone gets back together. Like I said this season has had some filler both good and bad. The prolonged sickness at the prison never happened in the comics but that was good filler as it was exciting. Tonights ep was just emotional bonding, (I guess??) between Beth and Daryl.

Beth is a good girl and Daryl has had a rough life, we didn't know that before this episode? Also while I agree that the show isn't solely about the zombies you have to remember that it is literally called "The Walking Dead".
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 03, 2014, 10:35:50 AM
Yawn...


glad to know that these people have hidden pain and stuff

The finger on tv?

anyway back to the action
next week looks good!

Yeah next week might have a character death maybe Beth or that guy Bob. Seriously what are they doing with Bob? They introduced him and never really did anything with his character except saying he was an alcoholic.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 03, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
it's about time this show got back to character development and not stupid mindless conflict with a watered down guvna. the tv adaption doesnt deserve the actual spelling. AMC is a channel about characters so if you watch this show for the zombie killing and that alone i dont blame you for not liking it. i keep hearing the word filler but i dont think the people who throw this term around truly understand the point of this franchise. if you don't get it then im not going to waste my time. this franchise has never been about the zombies. if beth dies this season i will be disappointed in the writing staff. they tend to give a lot of screen time to the characters who are about to be offed and it was pretty predictable with herschel. i'll be annoyed since this is the first episode where you actually feel anything for beth and for her to die in the next 3 episodes is just kind of cheap. firing glen mazzarra was the best thing this show could of done and scott gimple is doing a fantastic job. i'll never forget when glen mozzarella(mazzarra) said on the talking dead that in season 3 there was going to be a whole episode of a cat and mouse chase with the guv/andrea ::). glen, like many of this shows viewers, did not understand this franchise. this episode had great moments. daryl's bolt being broken/split symbolizing him being broken at that moment was great. cinema is supposed to be an art form and its about time this show picks up the ball again. i guarantee season 5 will be the best season in the series. the new show runner had to clean up the mess glen mozzarella left behind and will only improve as he builds upon his own work.

Have you read the comic books? In the context of the comic books and even the show tonights episode other than character development could be considered filer. If you took  tonights episode out of the show would it change anything? The underlying plot isn't going to progress until everyone gets back together. Like I said this season has had some filler both good and bad. The prolonged sickness at the prison never happened in the comics but that was good filler as it was exciting. Tonights ep was just emotional bonding, (I guess??) between Beth and Daryl.

Beth is a good girl and Daryl has had a rough life, we didn't know that before this episode? Also while I agree that the show isn't solely about the zombies you have to remember that it is literally called "The Walking Dead".

If you've read the comics, don't they make it very clear that "The Walking Dead" are not the zombies?


I have mixed feelings about the episode - it didn't really progress the plot, but there really isn't any overarching plot, and probably never will be.  I expect the rest of the series to follow the same formula it has so far - find a sanctuary, sanctuary gets corrupted and overrun via human evil, flee til finding next sanctuary, repeat.  With people dying here and there along the way.  Problem was I didn't find this character development all that interesting.

I really like that the show is providing "setpieces" like the country club where we see the aftermath of how things went down and have to piece together the events ourselves.  Reminds me of the Fallout games.  Hope we see more of that, it's interesting to see how different slices of society resisted the apocalypse and ultimately fell apart.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on March 03, 2014, 11:44:54 AM
it's about time this show got back to character development and not stupid mindless conflict with a watered down guvna. the tv adaption doesnt deserve the actual spelling. AMC is a channel about characters so if you watch this show for the zombie killing and that alone i dont blame you for not liking it. i keep hearing the word filler but i dont think the people who throw this term around truly understand the point of this franchise. if you don't get it then im not going to waste my time. this franchise has never been about the zombies. if beth dies this season i will be disappointed in the writing staff. they tend to give a lot of screen time to the characters who are about to be offed and it was pretty predictable with herschel. i'll be annoyed since this is the first episode where you actually feel anything for beth and for her to die in the next 3 episodes is just kind of cheap. firing glen mazzarra was the best thing this show could of done and scott gimple is doing a fantastic job. i'll never forget when glen mozzarella(mazzarra) said on the talking dead that in season 3 there was going to be a whole episode of a cat and mouse chase with the guv/andrea ::). glen, like many of this shows viewers, did not understand this franchise. this episode had great moments. daryl's bolt being broken/split symbolizing him being broken at that moment was great. cinema is supposed to be an art form and its about time this show picks up the ball again. i guarantee season 5 will be the best season in the series. the new show runner had to clean up the mess glen mozzarella left behind and will only improve as he builds upon his own work.

Have you read the comic books? In the context of the comic books and even the show tonights episode other than character development could be considered filer. If you took  tonights episode out of the show would it change anything? The underlying plot isn't going to progress until everyone gets back together. Like I said this season has had some filler both good and bad. The prolonged sickness at the prison never happened in the comics but that was good filler as it was exciting. Tonights ep was just emotional bonding, (I guess??) between Beth and Daryl.

Beth is a good girl and Daryl has had a rough life, we didn't know that before this episode? Also while I agree that the show isn't solely about the zombies you have to remember that it is literally called "The Walking Dead".
have you read the comics? there is a pannel with rick saying "we are the walking dead !" i've read every comic to date and there are many issues that deal solely with how the characters are feeling. once again i ask you to define filler and to define the plot to this show? this show is about how people handle traumatic experiences. some people deteriorate and some people just survive. tonights episode was trying to make daryl interesting again. glenn mozzarella made daryl into a one dimensional indestructible zombie killer which is just stupid. this episode was about adding depth to both beth and daryl. both were very one dimensional characters in previous seasons. ask yourself what made daryl interesting in the first two seasons and then the 3rd season just ruined him. he began to feel valued with the group because they made him an important member. daryl never had that in his life and after losing it all and feeling responsible for the collapse of the prison results in this depressed slow moving daryl who just doesn't care. i feel bad for kirkman and gimple. people complain about the lack of set pieces, character development, and the balance of action. you got all three last night. if you want constant bashing of skulls and fire fights go watch some zombie movies. this is a show about people living just to die, THE WALKING DEAD, being thrown into various circumstances and we see how they deal with it. so how can there ever really be a filler episode? also think of all the BAMF characters in the walking dead- rick, tyreese, abe, even the guvna if you read the extra material on him all had depth and werent just tough guys bashing skulls. gimple is trying to make characters again that you can feel for.
 
this season has been a lot better than last season and i wish we could go back and have gimple have the prison arc to work with. that was my favorite part of this franchise and mozzarella blew threw it and ruined the pacing of this show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on March 03, 2014, 12:07:15 PM
i really hope bob and tyreese get bigger roles going forward. big fan of the actors portraying them and tyreese was my favorite character in the books. i hope the writers didn't kill off anyone for the rest of the season. people are expecting someone to die but i would love to see continual growth of the characters we have currently. with that said i think having sasha die (even though shes gorgeous) wouldn't be bad and would add to tyreese. there are a lot of characters right now so developing them all efficiently will be tough. Rick, Carl, Michonne, Daryl, Glenn, Maggie, Beth, Bob, Tyreese, Sasha, Tara, Abe, Eugene, Rosita, Carol, The creepy little girls.

i bolded the people who absolutely wont die by season end. italicized the ones i want to see developed more. everyone else is in my opinion is taking up screen time
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 03, 2014, 01:32:05 PM
it's about time this show got back to character development and not stupid mindless conflict with a watered down guvna. the tv adaption doesnt deserve the actual spelling. AMC is a channel about characters so if you watch this show for the zombie killing and that alone i dont blame you for not liking it. i keep hearing the word filler but i dont think the people who throw this term around truly understand the point of this franchise. if you don't get it then im not going to waste my time. this franchise has never been about the zombies. if beth dies this season i will be disappointed in the writing staff. they tend to give a lot of screen time to the characters who are about to be offed and it was pretty predictable with herschel. i'll be annoyed since this is the first episode where you actually feel anything for beth and for her to die in the next 3 episodes is just kind of cheap. firing glen mazzarra was the best thing this show could of done and scott gimple is doing a fantastic job. i'll never forget when glen mozzarella(mazzarra) said on the talking dead that in season 3 there was going to be a whole episode of a cat and mouse chase with the guv/andrea ::). glen, like many of this shows viewers, did not understand this franchise. this episode had great moments. daryl's bolt being broken/split symbolizing him being broken at that moment was great. cinema is supposed to be an art form and its about time this show picks up the ball again. i guarantee season 5 will be the best season in the series. the new show runner had to clean up the mess glen mozzarella left behind and will only improve as he builds upon his own work.

Have you read the comic books? In the context of the comic books and even the show tonights episode other than character development could be considered filer. If you took  tonights episode out of the show would it change anything? The underlying plot isn't going to progress until everyone gets back together. Like I said this season has had some filler both good and bad. The prolonged sickness at the prison never happened in the comics but that was good filler as it was exciting. Tonights ep was just emotional bonding, (I guess??) between Beth and Daryl.

Beth is a good girl and Daryl has had a rough life, we didn't know that before this episode? Also while I agree that the show isn't solely about the zombies you have to remember that it is literally called "The Walking Dead".
have you read the comics? there is a pannel with rick saying "we are the walking dead !" i've read every comic to date and there are many issues that deal solely with how the characters are feeling. once again i ask you to define filler and to define the plot to this show? this show is about how people handle traumatic experiences. some people deteriorate and some people just survive. tonights episode was trying to make daryl interesting again. glenn mozzarella made daryl into a one dimensional indestructible zombie killer which is just stupid. this episode was about adding depth to both beth and daryl. both were very one dimensional characters in previous seasons. ask yourself what made daryl interesting in the first two seasons and then the 3rd season just ruined him. he began to feel valued with the group because they made him an important member. daryl never had that in his life and after losing it all and feeling responsible for the collapse of the prison results in this depressed slow moving daryl who just doesn't care. i feel bad for kirkman and gimple. people complain about the lack of set pieces, character development, and the balance of action. you got all three last night. if you want constant bashing of skulls and fire fights go watch some zombie movies. this is a show about people living just to die, THE WALKING DEAD, being thrown into various circumstances and we see how they deal with it. so how can there ever really be a filler episode? also think of all the BAMF characters in the walking dead- rick, tyreese, abe, even the guvna if you read the extra material on him all had depth and werent just tough guys bashing skulls. gimple is trying to make characters again that you can feel for.
 
this season has been a lot better than last season and i wish we could go back and have gimple have the prison arc to work with. that was my favorite part of this franchise and mozzarella blew threw it and ruined the pacing of this show.

Filler= Material that could be cut and have no effect on the progression of the show. Plot = Governor attacks prison, everyone separated, They meet abraham, eguene, rosita, They go to DC. That is the underlying plot. Im not the only one blasting this episode, a ton of people online are. I'm sorry but I and most people don't watch the walking dead to have Beth nag about wanting to find a drink for 20 minutes. THey could of spliced the whole episode up into like 15-20 minutes and literally nothing would of been lost. Here is a good verbalization of what I'm trying to say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1SJcECB4rQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1SJcECB4rQ) Seriously read the comments, nearly everyone hates it.

Yes The walking dead refers to the people themselves, but that is more figurative and a play on words. If you went up to 98% of people watching the show they'd all say the walking dead=zombies. And I don't think the third season killed daryl at all...His popularity escalated all throughout season 3 and even this season. And Tyreese is safe? I could see him taking on Dale's role...

Also I'd bet Beth dies in the upcoming episode. If not then definitely this season. #KillBeth2014
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on March 03, 2014, 04:25:07 PM
Boring episode. Seasons staring to show a lot of filler as the show has started to inch closer to where the comics are out currently. Cant have them running out of source material.

They're still a hundred issues or so from where the comics are, so they're at least another 2 or 3 full seasons from worrying about that.

The problem is that they extended the Governor storyline halfway into this season, leaving themselves a bunch of episodes to fill but not wanting to immediately jump into the next big storyline.  I think they pulled it off with the Governor but they're clearly just killing time in creative ways before they start setting things up for season 5.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on March 03, 2014, 04:42:30 PM
Boring episode. Seasons staring to show a lot of filler as the show has started to inch closer to where the comics are out currently. Cant have them running out of source material.

They're still a hundred issues or so from where the comics are, so they're at least another 2 or 3 full seasons from worrying about that.

The problem is that they extended the Governor storyline halfway into this season, leaving themselves a bunch of episodes to fill but not wanting to immediately jump into the next big storyline.  I think they pulled it off with the Governor but they're clearly just killing time in creative ways before they start setting things up for season 5.

Mike

I see a lot of people here actually read the comic...I actually like spoilers every now and then, can someone actually fill me in on the comic as to what happened (PM me :D)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 03, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
Boring episode. Seasons staring to show a lot of filler as the show has started to inch closer to where the comics are out currently. Cant have them running out of source material.

They're still a hundred issues or so from where the comics are, so they're at least another 2 or 3 full seasons from worrying about that.

The problem is that they extended the Governor storyline halfway into this season, leaving themselves a bunch of episodes to fill but not wanting to immediately jump into the next big storyline.  I think they pulled it off with the Governor but they're clearly just killing time in creative ways before they start setting things up for season 5.

Mike

I just looked at my second compendium and they are about through Chapter 9...Each chapter is 6 issues so they are about 54 issues in out of 127. But its interesting because a lot of chapter 10 includes stuff already done in the series like Rick hallucinating his dead wife and stuff like that. So they could be around 58-60. Anyways I agree they still have a ways to go, but they have to keep the future in mind and not blaze through the source material.

Also wanted to add that I can see this show going 10 seasons maybe even more. AMC is going to milk this thing until it's dry.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on March 03, 2014, 07:39:50 PM
Filler= Material that could be cut and have no effect on the progression of the show. Plot = Governor attacks prison, everyone separated, They meet abraham, eguene, rosita, They go to DC. That is the underlying plot. Im not the only one blasting this episode, a ton of people online are. I'm sorry but I and most people don't watch the walking dead to have Beth nag about wanting to find a drink for 20 minutes. THey could of spliced the whole episode up into like 15-20 minutes and literally nothing would of been lost. Here is a good verbalization of what I'm trying to say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1SJcECB4rQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1SJcECB4rQ) Seriously read the comments, nearly everyone hates it.

Yes The walking dead refers to the people themselves, but that is more figurative and a play on words. If you went up to 98% of people watching the show they'd all say the walking dead=zombies. And I don't think the third season killed daryl at all...His popularity escalated all throughout season 3 and even this season. And Tyreese is safe? I could see him taking on Dale's role...

Also I'd bet Beth dies in the upcoming episode. If not then definitely this season. #KillBeth2014
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just because something is popular doesnt mean its good art or just even good in general... can you honestly say you thought daryl was ever in any danger when he was captured by the guv ? i don't care for beth but the reason i would be disappointed if she dies is because it is becoming predictable. whenever a minor character starts talking more they get killed... thats just lazy writing. you don't create art to appeal to the masses and what everyone wants. the audience will never be satisfied. you make a quality walking dead show by sticking to what made your franchise successful in the first place and that was getting people to care about the fictional characters by displaying their underlying thought processes/emotions. why should the producers/writers care about what you want to see? idk how else to say it but if you dont watch this show for character development then you are watching for the wrong reasons. you're going to be seriously disappointed in the show when you really find out about DC and eugenes mission. this show isnt about the zombies or a cure. its about human struggle and how people survive differently. the only point i agree with you is that the individual episodes can ruin pacing but the main point im making is that the show is character driven and last nights episode was necessary. it affects the plot going forward because it is intended to humanize these underdeveloped characters so when the #2 hits the fan it has more of an impact. you would think i'm a huge fan of the show by my persistence of trying to argue my points but i actually think the show is very very sub par compared to the books. i have faith in gimple and i beleive going forward, season 5, will be a dramatically different style of show but for the better. the majority of the "remixes" from the source material has failed but i thought extending shanes role worked very well. but hey man hope i didnt tic you off or anything but lets just agree to disagree
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 03, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
I agree with you that good shows have character development, I just think the writing of Walking dead is not very good. However the makeup and actions parts are always usually excellent, thats why I prefer them. I'm a big Breaking Bad fan and shows like that you never noticed filler because it was so flawlessly acted and written it just flowed perfectly.

TWD lacks amazing writers and an entirely amazing cast. I think Andrew Lincoln, whomever plays Michonne, The Governor, Herschel, Carol, and Tyreese from what I've seen are all consistently good actors. The others are good at times but in other times they are spotty. Dont know if it's because they are written poorly or acted poorly it's hard to tell sometimes. This is why I think a lot of people prefer the action episodes, because they are so hard to screw up.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BballTim on March 09, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
Show was a bit boring last night

I look for Beth to get munched ...  Usually happens when a character appears on Talking Dead , within three shows.

Not digging her character at all...expendable with all new females added

  The recent episodes have been really slow. If this was earlier in the series it would probably be killing the ratings.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 09, 2014, 10:03:34 PM
Really has fallen off
haven't seen new ep yet
but if I crashed early i prolly wouldn't miss a thing
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 10, 2014, 02:08:34 PM
Really has fallen off
haven't seen new ep yet
but if I crashed early i prolly wouldn't miss a thing

I agree, its frustrating watching the TV show suck when they have such cool comic book source material they could just get to and it'd be good again.

The groups coming back together only took like 3 issues...Apparently this season it takes 8 episodes...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on March 10, 2014, 02:41:27 PM
last two episodes have been head and shoulders above any since season 2.

dialog is still bad and the characters are still really one-note, but the pacing is unreal compared to the earlier episodes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 10, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
last two episodes have been head and shoulders above any since season 2.

dialog is still bad and the characters are still really one-note, but the pacing is unreal compared to the earlier episodes.

I liked last night's episode a lot; I didn't love the prior one quite as much.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on March 10, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
I'm just stoked that they've finally figured out how to make the characters breathe. If you rewatch Season 2 it's obvious that writer's room didn't really have any idea what to do with characters that had to be in the same place and not constantly on the run.

And that they've gone away from Rick, who stopped being useful as a story-telling device almost as soon as they killed off Shane.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on March 10, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
And that they've gone away from Rick, who stopped being useful as a story-telling device almost as soon as they killed off Shane.

Well, it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.  In the comics, Shane was killed off in issue 6 which meant his conflict with Rick was far less central to the story or the character.  But, while I think what the comic did with Shane was very strong, would anyone have been happy with less Jon Bernthal?

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on March 10, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
And that they've gone away from Rick, who stopped being useful as a story-telling device almost as soon as they killed off Shane.

Well, it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.  In the comics, Shane was killed off in issue 6 which meant his conflict with Rick was far less central to the story or the character.  But, while I think what the comic did with Shane was very strong, would anyone have been happy with less Jon Bernthal?

Mike

The problem is that, especially in the beginning of the show, they weren't fleshed out characters. They were archtypes. That wasn't a big issue through season 1, since they were constantly on the run, but when they had to settle in to the farm for the entire season (which wasn't a creative decision, but a budgetary one), the show suffered. They had to spend a whole season on what was really one main conflict (Shane vs. Rick) that could've culminated much faster had they been allowed to burn the farm down in, say, the fourth episode of the second season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on March 11, 2014, 01:06:46 PM
Maybe I'm a bit nuts here, but am I the only one who noticed an ever so slight sexual tension developing between Daryl and Beth?

I'm not even sure how old she is supposed to be in the show, so it feels kinda weird thinking that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 12, 2014, 02:13:21 AM
Maybe I'm a bit nuts here, but am I the only one who noticed an ever so slight sexual tension developing between Daryl and Beth?

I'm not even sure how old she is supposed to be in the show, so it feels kinda weird thinking that.
Yeah, absolutely ... he basically told her that she was the reason that he still had faith in people, right before they were split up. I think she was frorcibly taken, though, cuz no way would she have driven off without Daryl, (and she's definitely old enough and an adult, so I see no reason why something couldn't happen there). I feel the same sort of thing between Michonne and Rick, and that may be even MORE far=fetched.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 12, 2014, 08:32:20 AM
Last show was better than previous IMO .

I starting to get disinterested though ...catch myself checking out other channels during the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 12, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
Maybe I'm a bit nuts here, but am I the only one who noticed an ever so slight sexual tension developing between Daryl and Beth?

I'm not even sure how old she is supposed to be in the show, so it feels kinda weird thinking that.

I think 18 in the show but like 28 in real life lol.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: McHales Pits on March 12, 2014, 09:45:45 AM
I definitely picked up on that too KGK. You aren't nuts. I was worried where that was going, but fortunately Beth got kidnapped.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 12, 2014, 09:54:51 AM
I definitely picked up on that too KGK. You aren't nuts. I was worried where that was going, but fortunately Beth got kidnapped.
I was starting to get that vibe too.  attributed it to what would probably come naturally to 2 people under that kind of duress regardless of age or that under normal circumstances those feelings wouldn't arise.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 16, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
Phenomenal episode! Definitely my favorite of the season. Melissa McBride (Carol) is an amazing actress! Although all 4 of them did a great job. Lizzie and Mika is a direct parallel to Billy and Ben from the comics, except Carol kills the psycho kid instead of Carl.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 16, 2014, 10:18:56 PM
Very Steinbeck at the end ... "Look at the flowers, just look at the flowers ... " and the situation involved, is almost directly comparable to "Of Mice And Men".
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 16, 2014, 10:28:57 PM
incredible episode.  had a feeling it was heading that way when when Lizzie kept spouting on about how no one else understood the walkers.  didn't foresee her killing Mika though. 

just another reason why I think this is the best show on TV
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 17, 2014, 05:30:22 AM
2 eps left

after seeing this one the last 2 gonna be off the chain
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 23, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
Yeah Terminus is way too good to be true. Betting it's some cannibals there. That lady was super sketchy. They probably tryna lure all the humans there so they can eat them. Don't buy the happy lady and pretty flowers at the entrance. RUN GUYS!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 23, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
I definitely picked up on that too KGK. You aren't nuts. I was worried where that was going, but fortunately Beth got kidnapped.

Yeah not digging where it was headed. Pretty creepy. Just like Dexter and Deb.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 23, 2014, 11:26:58 PM
Not going to say anything  but I dig where the shows going now. The arc of the show is starting to become clearer. The Terminus thing is a twist on the comics but a pretty awesome twist...If I think they are doing what I think they are doing.

Kind of curious how the finale shakes out. the groups are finally starting to recombine.The finale is going to be jam-packed with material if they end on the cliffhanger on what I assume they will end on at Terminus.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: McHales Pits on March 24, 2014, 07:27:18 AM
Was there an episode last night? I didn't get a chance to watch and I haven't seen anything posted on AMCTV or XFinityTV?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 24, 2014, 08:07:12 AM
Was there an episode last night? I didn't get a chance to watch and I haven't seen anything posted on AMCTV or XFinityTV?
there was.  good episode.  not as powerful as the last one but started to show there can be some awkward reunions coming (without giving out spoilers)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 24, 2014, 09:35:11 AM
I enjoyed last nights show.....I like the multiple stories of the main cast being separated on their. And their exploits.  Darrell needs to kill that group of losers he is with.

Some major person or people will bite the dust next week. Better not be Darrell .

I wonder what sick o criminals , devil worshipers , crazies are running that Termenex place.....

Bound to be setup....

Cannibals or such or vampires luring in people seeking shelter...... It's too good to be true ....a safe haven :D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 24, 2014, 10:16:46 AM
Am I the only one that noticed that Maggie doesn't give a crap about her sister Beth? I mean come on, she's crying and trippin' over her boyfriend but did not mention Beth all season. Some sista
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 24, 2014, 10:26:22 AM
Am I the only one that noticed that Maggie doesn't give a crap about her sister Beth? I mean come on, she's crying and trippin' over her boyfriend but did not mention Beth all season. Some sista
good point.  I guess getting some after the zombie apocalypse means more than family ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 24, 2014, 10:34:32 AM
Am I the only one that noticed that Maggie doesn't give a crap about her sister Beth? I mean come on, she's crying and trippin' over her boyfriend but did not mention Beth all season. Some sista
good point.  I guess getting some after the zombie apocalypse means more than family ;)

Or during the Zombie Apocalypse. hahaha
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 24, 2014, 11:36:37 AM
I think Beth is at Terminus and Maggie will see her at dinner.  ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 24, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
I think Beth is at Terminus and Maggie will see her at dinner.  ;)

Bet Maggie dies next week. When she burned her photo in the cave telling Glenn "you don't need this"

Definitely one of them is gone
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 24, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
The last 2 episodes have had moments of genuine horror.  All I can say is "about time".
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 24, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
I think Beth is at Terminus and Maggie will see her at dinner.  ;)

Bet Maggie dies next week. When she burned her photo in the cave telling Glenn "you don't need this"

Definitely one of them is gone
probably too close to what will happen for my liking.  I like their characters.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 24, 2014, 01:23:17 PM
I saw these on another site.  Pretty interesting flashback from earlier in the season:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/4c5f57ff2c4994c03853a6def3ff888f/tumblr_n2xayl7hKa1rnikqmo4_250.gif)(http://31.media.tumblr.com/db0006a58d45b40b6b4ccaf422c8b02c/tumblr_n2xayl7hKa1rnikqmo2_250.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/05d568f4e1e84f091844851975a19fa6/tumblr_n2xayl7hKa1rnikqmo3_250.gif)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/906a23224ed748715cdfe21a5c404df3/tumblr_n2xayl7hKa1rnikqmo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on March 24, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
I'm curious about what happens at Terminus. Normally destinations on this show seem to good to be true and then they eventually uncover the secret that causes the destinations to be a poor one (Hershel's farm, the Prison, the governor's town). However, since there are only two episodes left in the season I think they will have to immediately disclose what the problem is.

Also, I bet there is a stand off between the crew Daryl is now staying with and everyone else which leads to Daryl going beastmode and killing most of the people in his current crew.

If they end up killing off people on the show it better not be Glenn or Maggie. If anyone needs to go it is one of the characters I don't like (Rick or Carl).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 24, 2014, 02:09:55 PM
I'm curious about what happens at Terminus. Normally destinations on this show seem to good to be true and then they eventually uncover the secret that causes the destinations to be a poor one (Hershel's farm, the Prison, the governor's town). However, since there are only two episodes left in the season I think they will have to immediately disclose what the problem is.

Also, I bet there is a stand off between the crew Daryl is now staying with and everyone else which leads to Daryl going beastmode and killing most of the people in his current crew.

If they end up killing off people on the show it better not be Glenn or Maggie. If anyone needs to go it is one of the characters I don't like (Rick or Carl).

Yeah they're definitely not killing off Carl or Rick... Yet. I think it's definitely one of Glen or Maggie that's going to die. And Bob. Maybe Tara. No way it's gonna be Rick or Carl until the final season.

I understand not liking Carl, but why Rick? Glen is useless this season. He use to be my favorite character along with Daryl but he contributed nothing to the group the first half of the season
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 24, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
I'm curious about what happens at Terminus. Normally destinations on this show seem to good to be true and then they eventually uncover the secret that causes the destinations to be a poor one (Hershel's farm, the Prison, the governor's town). However, since there are only two episodes left in the season I think they will have to immediately disclose what the problem is.

Also, I bet there is a stand off between the crew Daryl is now staying with and everyone else which leads to Daryl going beastmode and killing most of the people in his current crew.

If they end up killing off people on the show it better not be Glenn or Maggie. If anyone needs to go it is one of the characters I don't like (Rick or Carl).

Yeah they're definitely not killing off Carl or Rick... Yet. I think it's definitely one of Glen or Maggie that's going to die. And Bob. Maybe Tara. No way it's gonna be Rick or Carl until the final season.

I understand not liking Carl, but why Rick? Glen is useless this season. He use to be my favorite character along with Daryl but he contributed nothing to the group the first half of the season

I also get the sense that one of Glenn or Maggie will die, and I think it will be Maggie. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 24, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
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I also get the sense that one of Glenn or Maggie will die

The pic burning was foreshadowing as I see it, too.  One of these two will die.


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Maggie will see her at dinner

Maybe she is dinner.  My son thinks Terminus is a lure for cannibals.

I paused the trailer at the end.   The person being dragged down by the walkers was not a main star that I could see.


I think Darryl will turn on the " Claim group" once he learns it is Rick and kill, Joe.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on March 24, 2014, 04:34:25 PM
I'm curious about what happens at Terminus. Normally destinations on this show seem to good to be true and then they eventually uncover the secret that causes the destinations to be a poor one (Hershel's farm, the Prison, the governor's town). However, since there are only two episodes left in the season I think they will have to immediately disclose what the problem is.

Also, I bet there is a stand off between the crew Daryl is now staying with and everyone else which leads to Daryl going beastmode and killing most of the people in his current crew.

If they end up killing off people on the show it better not be Glenn or Maggie. If anyone needs to go it is one of the characters I don't like (Rick or Carl).

Yeah they're definitely not killing off Carl or Rick... Yet. I think it's definitely one of Glen or Maggie that's going to die. And Bob. Maybe Tara. No way it's gonna be Rick or Carl until the final season.

I understand not liking Carl, but why Rick? Glen is useless this season. He use to be my favorite character along with Daryl but he contributed nothing to the group the first half of the season

I also get the sense that one of Glenn or Maggie will die, and I think it will be Maggie.

I would hope they've learned by now not to signal big deaths that way.  I'm not sure how the character-centric episodes after the prison fit into their pattern of spotlighting a character just before killing them.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on March 24, 2014, 05:52:46 PM

I would hope they've learned by now not to signal big deaths that way.  I'm not sure how the character-centric episodes after the prison fit into their pattern of spotlighting a character just before killing them.

Mike

The spotlighting of a character before death was getting too predictable, and that ruined the freshness of the idea that no one is safe in this show. It contributed to making things feel more like a stretched out b-movie combined with predictable tv show drama, like watching rick giggling as he watched Carl and Michonne share a candy bar. It was a brief moment yet it was so corny and generically executed.

Yet i still watch because i like b movies with people in monster masks and makeup. It is hard to like most of the cast though. Maggie and Glenn have really become irritating.

I still like Rick. He has a lot of baggage that helps make for a good main hero character. Daryl, Michonne and Carol are cool too. I'm ready to see a bunch outside of those four go.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on March 24, 2014, 05:57:20 PM
Am I the only one that noticed that Maggie doesn't give a crap about her sister Beth? I mean come on, she's crying and trippin' over her boyfriend but did not mention Beth all season. Some sista

This has been bothering me too. For the past few seasons you forget they are even related.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on March 24, 2014, 05:58:11 PM
What's up with all the "I hope so and so is killed off" talk?

Can't I just hope they all live happily ever after?  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 24, 2014, 07:13:16 PM
Am I the only one that noticed that Maggie doesn't give a crap about her sister Beth? I mean come on, she's crying and trippin' over her boyfriend but did not mention Beth all season. Some sista

Lol.....she probably forget they were sisters


I did ... ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 30, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
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I also get the sense that one of Glenn or Maggie will die

The pic burning was foreshadowing as I see it, too.  One of these two will die.


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Maggie will see her at dinner

Maybe she is dinner.  My son thinks Terminus is a lure for cannibals.

I paused the trailer at the end.   The person being dragged down by the walkers was not a main star that I could see.


I think Darryl will turn on the " Claim group" once he learns it is Rick and kill, Joe.

Yeah, I think Terminus is a cannibalistic group as well ... no one guarding the gate, the precursors that Roy showed, Beth being taken off, (she didn';t leave Daryl of her own accord - she may end up as dinner) ... I think it's going to be up to Rick to save them all again, possibly with the help of Daryl and his new group, who WE now view as bad guys, but in comparison could be their salvation. Just the name "Terminus" implies something similar. I also agree about Glenn or Maggie ... they like to make you think one way, (finally reunited), and then pull the rug out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 30, 2014, 08:55:28 PM
Here's the thing that none of them are stopping to think about: Why would ANY group trying to survive be purposely advertising for MORE mouths to feed?!? Seems a bit odd to me, in a world where just ONE extra person can be the breaking point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 30, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
Whaaaaat that was crazy..
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 30, 2014, 10:07:37 PM
Some epic moments, but cliffhangers are the worst.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 30, 2014, 10:08:52 PM
I just hope Tyreese and Carol saw it go down and can rescue the others.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 30, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
I just hope Tyreese and Carol saw it go down and can rescue the others.
Yeah, I think they've been grooming Carol to be ruthless for just this reason ... she and Tyreese are clearly the ace-in-the-hole for the group that's captive. I have a feeling Beth may have been what they were about to eat, (or was she in the train car and I didn't see her?). She was taken by force, (no way would she have left Daryl), and it intimates something alonmg those lines ... hope I'm wrong about that. I like her character and the actress as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 30, 2014, 11:04:39 PM
Great finale... ruined by the last 3 seconds. That was such a corny line. When Rick said "they are so stupid, wait until they found out" thought he was going to reveal something epic like "I planted bombs" or "I have an extra weapon" or "I'm a day walker" lol idk ANYTHING but "they're screwing with the wrong people"

That was so corny. Other than that, I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 30, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
Great finale... ruined by the last 3 seconds. That was such a corny line. When Rick said "they are so stupid, wait until they found out" thought he was going to reveal something epic like "I planted bombs" or "I have an extra weapon" or "I'm a day walker" lol idk ANYTHING but "they're screwing with the wrong people"

That was so corny. Other than that, I enjoyed it.
That's what I felt at first as well, but I actually like it the more I think about it ... it designates this major change in Rick's persona, that he's no longer a guy hanging on by a thread and surviving on instinct, he's NOW, (and the entire group, in his view), a major force to be reckoned with. It's probably the most important transformation that has taken place to this point, and while it would normally be pretty much lights out for the group in their present situation, their visceral, ruthless tactics that survival has forced them to adopt, and especially behind this new Rick, makes you almost feel sorry for the sickos who are holding them captive, (for obvious reasons). Yeah, it would've been better as an f-bomb, but even AMC has some standards, via the FCC's much relaxed but still limited guidelines.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 30, 2014, 11:40:02 PM
Then there's the bag of weapons Rick buried ... clearly for a critical purpose next season, don't ya think? ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 31, 2014, 12:27:28 AM
Great finale... ruined by the last 3 seconds. That was such a corny line. When Rick said "they are so stupid, wait until they found out" thought he was going to reveal something epic like "I planted bombs" or "I have an extra weapon" or "I'm a day walker" lol idk ANYTHING but "they're screwing with the wrong people"

That was so corny. Other than that, I enjoyed it.
thats a nerfed line directly from the comics, its supposed to be "theyre f$&@ing with the wrong people" not screwing. Dang fcc...im allowed to watch someone neck get bitten into but god-forbid anyone mutter the f word on a zombie show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 31, 2014, 07:36:38 AM
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. it designates this major change in Rick's persona,

Dirty Harry Rick, Incoming!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on March 31, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
I was not a fan of the finale, I feel like the flashbacks were pretty much unnecessary and the story did not get moved along as far as I would have liked.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 31, 2014, 10:08:13 AM
I was not a fan of the finale, I feel like the flashbacks were pretty much unnecessary and the story did not get moved along as far as I would have liked.

AMC is going to drag this series on as long as possible. Wouldn't be surprised if the show aired for 10 seasons.

That's why it's moving so slow.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 31, 2014, 11:14:50 AM
I was not a fan of the finale, I feel like the flashbacks were pretty much unnecessary and the story did not get moved along as far as I would have liked.

AMC is going to drag this series on as long as possible. Wouldn't be surprised if the show aired for 10 seasons.

That's why it's moving so slow.
agreed on the flashbacks -- didn't really add anything to the episode. 

the quick run-by of the carcasses on the ground pretty much advertise this has to be a cannibal camp.  that, and that they were being herded through the complex to the rail car -- not to mention the other cars with people screaming from them.

kudos to Rick though for picking up on the backpack and watch.  should have killed a few of them on the way though.

as for it running 10 years, I'm fine with that provided it remains a quality program.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 31, 2014, 11:26:36 AM
The walking dead is relatively easy to run into the ground as characters can be believably killed off if an actor wants out.

Also for anyone interested these are the direct scenes from the comic from last night  :)
NSFW because of language/violence.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6479453615_482f15999b_b.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6479453615_482f15999b_b.jpg)

And then the ending line.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg)

Looks so much better in context! (Also I'm not sure about forum policy on linking to something with swears/violence. If it's against the rules I'll remove the links)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 31, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
And then the ending line.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg)

Looks so much better in context! (Also I'm not sure about forum policy on linking to something with swears/violence. If it's against the rules I'll remove the links)

I heard Terminus isn't in the comics at all - if so, who's Rick talking about there?

Also I'm so glad the show wasn't dumb enough to have Rick's hand cut off.  At least not yet.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Timdawgg on March 31, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
This helps provide a little insight too...

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1725080/walking-dead-finale-comics.jhtml

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 31, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
And then the ending line.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg)

Looks so much better in context! (Also I'm not sure about forum policy on linking to something with swears/violence. If it's against the rules I'll remove the links)

I heard Terminus isn't in the comics at all - if so, who's Rick talking about there?

Also I'm so glad the show wasn't dumb enough to have Rick's hand cut off.  At least not yet.

SPOILERS up to current date with the show

Rick is talking about "The Hunters" there which are what the people in Terminus are. The hunters were a group of people who hunted people with bows and guns and were cannibals. The people in Terminus are a spin on the hunters in that while they don't hunt with weapons or by force, they lure people into their trap. It's more or less the show taking a different spin on things which I think is awesome because even comic nerds like me have no idea exactly what will happen.

Also yeah in the books, the Governor cuts Rick's hand off but I doubt this will happen in the show. Robert Kirkman has said he regrets doing that in the comics, so the show kind of gives him a chance to change that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
The walking dead is relatively easy to run into the ground as characters can be believably killed off if an actor wants out.

Also for anyone interested these are the direct scenes from the comic from last night  :)
NSFW because of language/violence.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6479453615_482f15999b_b.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6479453615_482f15999b_b.jpg)

And then the ending line.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/ErokDragun/comic%20related/WalkingDead64023.jpg)

Looks so much better in context! (Also I'm not sure about forum policy on linking to something with swears/violence. If it's against the rules I'll remove the links)

TP. Thanks for the links. I should really check out the comic sometime. Although at this point i am invested in the show and don't want to know what is coming next.

Bring on the next season!

As an aside...
I normally am not too into time filling flashbacks, but i kinda dug the farming angle with Hershel. It puts a bow on Rick's transformation from civilized "softness" to an all out survivor, capable of being a monstrous killer.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 31, 2014, 03:57:56 PM
I should really check out the comic sometime.

You definitely should.  As crazy and brutal as some of the scenes have been on the show, they don't even go near some of the stuff from the comic.  It's interesting to compare some of the characters between the two, as well.  Tyrese and Andrea, in particular, are much cooler / more likeable in the comic.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 04:09:13 PM
I should really check out the comic sometime.

You definitely should.  As crazy and brutal as some of the scenes have been on the show, they don't even go near some of the stuff from the comic.  It's interesting to compare some of the characters between the two, as well.  Tyrese and Andrea, in particular, are much cooler / more likeable in the comic.

cool. Any idea what issue we are up to by now? ...i might have to get the big compilation issues and do some catching up.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 31, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
I should really check out the comic sometime.

You definitely should.  As crazy and brutal as some of the scenes have been on the show, they don't even go near some of the stuff from the comic.  It's interesting to compare some of the characters between the two, as well.  Tyrese and Andrea, in particular, are much cooler / more likeable in the comic.

cool. Any idea what issue we are up to by now? ...i might have to get the big compilation issues and do some catching up.

125, I think.

I'd start with buying Compendium #1.   Link (http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Compendium-One/dp/1607060760/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396296713&sr=8-2&keywords=walking+dead+compendium)

It's the first 48 issues.  Compendium #2 is out, as well. 

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on March 31, 2014, 04:19:21 PM
Rick biting that dudes neck off was jaw dropping.

Did not see that coming, but he scene with hi sitting in front of the truck with blood all over his face was pretty scary.  Like he had just completely lost his mind, but then finally realized what he really would have to do to survive.

Now, you don't just have to watch out for zombies bites, you gotta watch out for that crazy sonofabiscuit, Rick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Sketch5 on March 31, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
Rick biting that dudes neck off was jaw dropping.

Did not see that coming, but he scene with hi sitting in front of the truck with blood all over his face was pretty scary.  Like he had just completely lost his mind, but then finally realized what he really would have to do to survive.

Now, you don't just have to watch out for zombies bites, you gotta watch out for that crazy sonofabiscuit, Rick.

Yeah Rick went  primal in that scene. It was all about saving his friends and his boy from what I took looked like it was starting to get  a little Deliverance like.

Rick as transformed back to Leader Rick and new and improved. Rick 2.0!

I loved that line that Rick said at the end about how the they knew something that they didn't, and that was not to Mess (not sure if i can say exact word on CB) with this group.

Next season should be really good!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 12, 2014, 10:21:42 PM

That was a FANTASTIC episode, IMO ... loved it!!

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/the-walking-dead-season-5-comic-con-banner-1163x405.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 12, 2014, 10:37:08 PM
One of the best yet.  I like Merrill chained to the roof show best   ;D

That hippy cannibal dude escaped with his life it seemed....sure well be seeing his sick self again
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 12, 2014, 10:56:11 PM
overall it's a good episode. Got kind of teary when RIck reunited with Judith and everyone. Now I am interested at the ending? Did the comic end by any chance? Did they ever reach DC? What happens in DC?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 13, 2014, 01:05:06 AM
Best ep...

Loved how brotha man took out all the zombies round that cabin then came back and took that fool out..

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: blink on October 13, 2014, 02:34:03 AM
yeah really good ep.  i was surprised that the terminus arch was over in one show.  but I guess the main bad guy garrett(sp?) is still out there.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 13, 2014, 05:36:00 AM
I think we got a lot in this episode.  Did anyone else notice this stuff.

New Season
Evil bad guys
Good Acting
Awesome
Non chalant Daryl
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 13, 2014, 07:51:01 AM
Best ep...

Loved how brotha man took out all the zombies round that cabin then came back and took that fool out..

After he put a whupping  on em ,  thinking of T Dog.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 13, 2014, 08:58:54 AM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 13, 2014, 09:25:46 AM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
loved the ep.  best show on TV by far.

agree that it's weird that those 2 are working together considering the circumstances
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 13, 2014, 09:52:46 AM
Carol coming to the rescue of the good guys instead of Tyrese was an interesting way of her making amends for killing his girlfriend and getting back in good graces with Rick and group.

Very surprised at the way the rescue played out ....Tyrese taking care of the baby .   He was very patient with the Jerk in the cabin .   Carol at this point would have had no patience with his talk of killing the baby and her .  She'd shot him in the head in a minute.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: boscel33 on October 13, 2014, 10:57:45 AM

That was a FANTASTIC episode, IMO ... loved it!!

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/the-walking-dead-season-5-comic-con-banner-1163x405.jpg)

Yep, and with Morgan appearing out of the blue at the end, just a fantastic climax to an eventful show. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 13, 2014, 01:33:37 PM

That was a FANTASTIC episode, IMO ... loved it!!

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/the-walking-dead-season-5-comic-con-banner-1163x405.jpg)

Yep, and with Morgan appearing out of the blue at the end, just a fantastic climax to an eventful show. 
Knew he was coming back ... too good an actor and too good a role to NOT keep around. Lenny James is an awesome talent.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 13, 2014, 01:37:04 PM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
loved the ep.  best show on TV by far.

agree that it's weird that those 2 are working together considering the circumstances
The director's way of re-cementing the trust between them, I think. Man, Carol has turned into a kick-butt, no-nonsense chick ... can you imagine if Andrea, Herschel, Dale, or Shane could see her now?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 13, 2014, 01:59:56 PM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
loved the ep.  best show on TV by far.

agree that it's weird that those 2 are working together considering the circumstances
The director's way of re-cementing the trust between them, I think. Man, Carol has turned into a kick-butt, no-nonsense chick ... can you imagine if Andrea, Herschel, Dale, or Shane could see her now?

actually just re-watched some of the episodes of last season, Carol confessed to Tyreese
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 13, 2014, 03:48:37 PM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
loved the ep.  best show on TV by far.

agree that it's weird that those 2 are working together considering the circumstances
The director's way of re-cementing the trust between them, I think. Man, Carol has turned into a kick-butt, no-nonsense chick ... can you imagine if Andrea, Herschel, Dale, or Shane could see her now?

actually just re-watched some of the episodes of last season, Carol confessed to Tyreese

Glade you posted that....I couldn't remember and was going to have to rewatch some to find out.
TP !
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 14, 2014, 01:09:23 AM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
loved the ep.  best show on TV by far.

agree that it's weird that those 2 are working together considering the circumstances
The director's way of re-cementing the trust between them, I think. Man, Carol has turned into a kick-butt, no-nonsense chick ... can you imagine if Andrea, Herschel, Dale, or Shane could see her now?

actually just re-watched some of the episodes of last season, Carol confessed to Tyreese
Yeah, that's why I said it was the director's way of re-establishing trust between Carol and Tyreese ... she confessed when they were in that house together, sitting at the kitchen table, (right after she was forced to execute the little girl who had gone psycho) ... she wanted him to kill her, but he wouldn't do it. I was surprised that SHE was the one to spring the rest from Terminus, though, and actually thought it was pretty cool ... I was thinking that one of the excaped group might mistake her for a walker and kill her accidentally, (payment for Tyreese's sister), but I'm thankful that didn't happen. Too early in the season to be icing anyone of the core group ... I used to think she was just a whiner, but I've grown to love her character. Now, where and when will Beth show up? (rhet.)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 14, 2014, 06:29:08 AM
Carol coming to the rescue of the good guys instead of Tyrese was an interesting way of her making amends for killing his girlfriend and getting back in good graces with Rick and group.

Very surprised at the way the rescue played out ....Tyrese taking care of the baby .   He was very patient with the Jerk in the cabin .   Carol at this point would have had no patience with his talk of killing the baby and her .  She'd shot him in the head in a minute.

And yet he got to show off his ever increasing ability to go ape poop and take a gaggle of walkers with limited to no weaponry.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 14, 2014, 06:49:04 AM
am I also the only one that thinks it's awkward that Carol and Tyrese are working together...I mean didn't Carol drag the girl he liked out from the prison and burned her corpse?
loved the ep.  best show on TV by far.

agree that it's weird that those 2 are working together considering the circumstances
The director's way of re-cementing the trust between them, I think. Man, Carol has turned into a kick-butt, no-nonsense chick ... can you imagine if Andrea, Herschel, Dale, or Shane could see her now?

actually just re-watched some of the episodes of last season, Carol confessed to Tyreese

the puzzle on the table in that scene when carol confesses is actually a picture of Sofia(carol's daughter, that turned in season 2).

McBride(carol) had no idea until the puzzle was almost completed the day that scene was shot. the producers felt it would add more to the scene, making Carol uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: boscel33 on October 14, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
anyone have any idea what the sign carved in the tree that morgan was looking at means?

i don't recall seeing it in the past or seeing any of the main group carve it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 14, 2014, 04:30:18 PM
Apparently I need to watch it again.  Where was Morgan?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 14, 2014, 05:24:59 PM
Morgan  is this guy

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  Morgan Jones
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Actor   Lennie James
Gender   Male
Hair   Black
Age   Early to mid 40's
Occupation   Unknown
Family   Jenny Jones - Wife (Deceased)
Duane Jones - Son (Deceased)
First Appearance   "Days Gone Bye"
Status   Alive
Series lifespan   "Days Gone Bye" to Present
Ethnicity   African-American
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"See because the good people, they always die. And the bad people do too. But the weaker people, the people like me, we have inherited the earth."
—Morgan to Rick.[src]
Morgan Jones is a survivor of the outbreak in AMC's The Walking Dead. He is the husband of Jenny and father of Duane. While evacuating, Jenny was bitten and succumbed to the infection, causing Morgan and Duane to seek refuge in King County, Georgia, where the Grimes Family lived. After the loss of his son (who was bitten by Jenny), Morgan was living a life in denial, hoping to redeem himself by killing the invasive walkers. At the end of "No Sanctuary", it is revealed that Morgan has redeemed his mental state and traveled from Georgia to Terminus following the signs, but stopped after seeing a sign that said "No Sanctuary".

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Post-Apocalypse
Season 1
"Days Gone Bye"
Fiercely protective, Morgan Jones barricaded himself and his son in a house in Rick's neighborhood. Though his wife, Jenny, died, he decided to let her go outside instead of putting her down. Despite the dire conditions, Morgan still endeavored to create normalcy for Duane; such as correcting his son's grammar, and engaging in mealtime prayers. But both remained haunted by the loss of Jenny, whom returns to the house regularly as a walker. Morgan and his son, Duane, first encountered Rick Grimes outside of his house in King County, Georgia. Duane knocked the unsuspecting survivor in the back of the head with a shovel, as he and his father assumed that he was another walker. When he heard Rick speak, Morgan realized that he wasn't and he brought Rick into their hideout.

Upon Rick's awakening, Morgan interrogated Rick upon the cause of his wounds, before the two's friendship could thoroughly take place. On learning that Rick had been in a coma, Morgan brought him up to speed on the current events as best as he could, introducing the previously confused Rick to the reality of the epidemic upon the country. He also told Rick that the government was gathering people in the major cities, giving Rick the idea to continue to Atlanta to try and find his family, Lori Grimes and Carl Grimes. Rick then thought of traveling to the King County Sheriff's Department, which Rick still had the keys for, to gather supplies.

Morgan drove him over and Rick provided the pair with weapons and other supplies in exchange for their kindness and help. He rejected Rick's offer to join him on his way to Atlanta, but tells Rick that he will join up with him in a few days; with the excuse that Duane can learn to shoot in the interim. Rick gives him a walkie-talkie, and tells him to radio him in when he approaches Atlanta so they can meet up.

On returning to the house, Morgan tells Duane to read his comic books before heading upstairs. He goes through the photo albums Jenny brought with them, selects a picture of her and sticks it to the window frame. He aims his rifle, and after shooting a couple of zombies to lure his wife out, he trains his gun on his undead wife; yet cannot bring himself to kill her. He attempts several more times, yet each failed in kind. Morgan and Duane's whereabouts are unknown for the rest of the season.

"Tell It to the Frogs"
Morgan and his son are mentioned by Rick when he speaks with Lori explaining that Morgan and his son have saved Rick after he woke up from the coma and that Rick is alive thanks to them and arrived in Atlanta.

"Wildfire"
Rick later tries to contact Morgan via walkie-talkie and lets him know that he and a group of survivors are leaving and heading to the CDC, in the hopes of finding a cure.

Season 2
"What Lies Ahead"
At the beginning of the episode, Rick talks into his walkie-talkie, announcing that he and his group are abandoning Atlanta and that the CDC is gone. Rick begins to mention what Jenner said but decides not to continue, saying that the group is heading to Fort Benning instead. Although he speaks into the walkie-talkie for several minutes, his message is never replied to. This is the last time that Rick is seen trying to contact Morgan for the rest of the season.

Season 3
During the time Morgan has been absent from the series, he and Duane lived around King County the whole year. One day, while clearing a store, Duane was bitten by his own undead mother, and Morgan is finally forced to shoot her. After Duane's death, Morgan started to lose his sanity, believing he has the mission to clear all the walkers from town. He started to set up traps and wrote down names of people he knew that turned that were put down by his own traps.

"Clear"
When Rick, Carl, and Michonne go on a run into King County, Morgan holds them at gunpoint from a roof. They have a shootout, and while trying to pursue Rick, Carl ultimately shoots Morgan in the chest. Rick pulls off Morgan's shirt, revealing that he had donned body armor. They drag his unconscious-self into his building, avoiding his traps, and lay him down on a bed. For safety measures, his hands are bound by Rick. While Rick is reading the strange writings on the wall, he discovers that Duane had reanimated, and decides to stay and wait for Morgan to wake up. While Michonne and Carl go on a run, Rick waits for him to wake up, but Morgan grabs a knife that was taped to the side of the bed. He attacks Rick, claiming that he is not familiar with anyone anymore. He stabs Rick in the upper-left chest. Rick knocks the weapon away, pointing his gun at Morgan's head, and Morgan pleads Rick to kill him.

Morgan is tied up again and, after patching himself up, Rick finally manages to make him remember that the two know each other. Morgan says that he tried to contact Rick every morning for several weeks, but he never answered the radio, before explaining what happened to Duane. He is offered to join the group at the prison, but he realizes that Rick is taking a lot of guns, meaning that they are preparing for a war. Morgan claims that Rick, Carl, and his people will die either by bullets or by walkers, and refuses to join them, not wanting to see anyone else die. While clearing out the walkers caught on his traps, Carl approaches Morgan and tells him that he is sorry for shooting him earlier. Morgan remarks to Carl, "Don't ever be sorry."

While leaving King County, Rick, Carl, and Michonne watch as Morgan prepares to burn the corpses of the walkers he captured.

Morgan had remained living in his fortified base in King County,[1][2] until an unknown time in which he left.

Season 5
"No Sanctuary"
Morgan is seen in a post-credits scene hiking to Terminus on the railroad tracks. Morgan stops walking, and stares at the Terminus sign recently changed by Rick, before taking off his mask and beginning to follow cross-shaped markings left on trees by unknown survivor(s).

Killed Victims
This list shows the victims Morgan has killed:

Jenny Jones (Zombified)
Numerous counts of zombies and unnamed people.
Relationships
Jenny Jones
"She, uh... she died in the other room, on that bed in there. There was nothin', I could, I could do about it here. That fever, man: her skin gave off heat like a furnace. I should have, I should have put her down, I should have put her down, I know that, but, you know what, I just didn't have it in me. She's the mother of my child."
—Morgan to Rick over the death of his wife.[src]
Morgan was Jenny's husband and he loved her dearly. At the start of the outbreak, after Jenny succumbed and subsequently reanimated, Morgan could never bring himself to killing her because he had loved her so much. Torn between putting her down to let her finally rest in peace, and having a false idea of her still "alive" in the world, Morgan eventually gets a sniper rifle; with a picture of Jenny on the window, he shoots the walkers on the street. But after taking aim at his dead zombie wife's head for several long moments, he is unable to pull the trigger and eventually breaks down in tears.

Months later, Morgan and Duane are looting a store when Jenny attacks and bites Duane. Only after this is Morgan able to put her down.

Duane Jones
"Hell yes, you're gonna learn. But we gotta do it carefully, teach you to respect the weapon."
—Morgan to Duane over the responsibility of a firearm.[src]
Morgan, father to Duane, is shown to love and care for his son very much. This is shown as when Duane is upset, Morgan immediately goes to his side to comfort him. Despite the circumstances of the new, post-apocalyptic world, Morgan still tries to raise his son into a morally good man, as stated as he frequently corrects Duane's grammar and proper manners. Duane's death at his undead mother's hands has caused Morgan to lose his grip on sanity, and has made him vengeful to both walkers, and people.

Rick Grimes
"I have to clear."
—Morgan to Rick.[src]
Morgan and Rick have an interesting introduction to each other. After Rick left the hospital, weak and ragged, Morgan mistook him for a walker and Duane knocked him unconscious (with a shovel). Rick woke up, tied to a bed and was questioned. After Morgan learned that Rick wasn't bitten, Morgan offered Rick shelter and food. The next day, Rick took Morgan and Duane to the police station for scavenging the remaining guns and supplies as well as to let them use the facilities to have a hot shower. After Morgan and Duane collected the weapons, Rick gave them a vehicle. Morgan thanked Rick, saying that he is a good man and wished him the best of luck.

Later on, Rick, Carl and Michonne return to King County to retrive guns and ammo from the police station that Rick worked for. As they wander the town, they see main street completely fortified and traps all over the place. They walk through it, avoiding the traps, only to come under fire from Morgan, who has lost his mind after losing his son and doesn't recognize who they are. After a short shootout, Carl appears and shoots Morgan in the abdomen, infatally, due to him wearing body armor. Rick realizes who it is and drags an unconcious Morgan to his apartment. After tying Morgan down to a bed, Rick looks at the walls, whic are covered with information regarding Morgan's life after Rick left. Morgan wakes up and attacks Rick with a knife and manages to stab Rick in the upper-left shoulder. The two exchange their life stories after Morgan realizes who he's with. Morgan doesn't have a grip on reality and Rick tries to convince him to come away with him, Carl and Michonne, to which Morgan declines, saying that he "needs to clear". Rick packs up the car and Carl asks if Morgan is ok, to which Rick responds "No, he's not."

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Morgan_Jones_(TV_Series)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 14, 2014, 05:28:55 PM
Apparently I need to watch it again.  Where was Morgan?

After the credits, they showed about a 30 second scene. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omS_eXUmWL0
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 14, 2014, 05:35:15 PM
Apparently I need to watch it again.  Where was Morgan?

After the credits, they showed about a 30 second scene. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omS_eXUmWL0

cool

thanks

I always flip off the credits because I don't like to see the teases for the next episode.  This is pretty unusual for them to do this sort of thing, right?

They really set the bar pretty high for the season with Sunday's episode. 

I spent all summer wondering how on earth they were going to kick butt out of the trailer, then they rendered that moot immediately.  I'm very comfy with zombie violence, but that human on human throat cutting was some seriously uncomfortable viewing. 

The flaming walkers were pretty awesome!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Beat LA on October 14, 2014, 06:10:29 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 14, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.

I've enjoyed them since this:

http://youtu.be/YNzLonqUVt0
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 14, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.

i'm not a big horror or zombie fan. but a friend I trust; who read the comic told me this was being made into a show and said "I have to watch it". so not being a horror or zombie fan and already have a hard time sittin still during a Celtics game I was a bit reluctant. but I trust my friend.

turns out the show is good. if you're even slightly interested, this show isn't about the horror or the zombies(though there is plenty of that), it's about the survivors and them looking for hope...and surviving. again if you are slightly interested watch season 1 and if you don't like that you won't like the rest. but if you watch season 2 you'll have you're heart ripped out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on October 14, 2014, 08:44:04 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.

As Redz points out, the modern zombie genre pretty much all flows from George A. Romero's classic.  Their current popularity probably has something to do with the concept being comparatively fresh.  Night of the Living Dead only came out in 1968 and zombie's only really became mainstream in the mid 2000s.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on October 14, 2014, 10:04:31 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.
Personally, I like post-apocalyptic in general. It doesn't have to be zombies. I watch The Walking Dead because it is well made and post-apocalyptic. That doesn't mean I am particularly fascinated with zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on October 14, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.
Personally, I like post-apocalyptic in general. It doesn't have to be zombies. I watch The Walking Dead because it is well made and post-apocalyptic. That doesn't mean I am particularly fascinated with zombies.

I think this says a lot about why this genre is so popular now.  The post-apocalyptic aspect brings in a lot of people regardless if they like horror, and the horror fans and gorehounds dig it even if they don't like post-apocalyptic stuff all that much.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on October 14, 2014, 11:04:45 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.

i'm not a big horror or zombie fan. but a friend I trust; who read the comic told me this was being made into a show and said "I have to watch it". so not being a horror or zombie fan and already have a hard time sittin still during a Celtics game I was a bit reluctant. but I trust my friend.

turns out the show is good. if you're even slightly interested, this show isn't about the horror or the zombies(though there is plenty of that), it's about the survivors and them looking for hope...and surviving. again if you are slightly interested watch season 1 and if you don't like that you won't like the rest. but if you watch season 2 you'll have you're heart ripped out.

Your friend knows what is up.  While the show is very good, it is light years behind the comic.  The Walking Dead comic series is one of the most gripping things I've ever read in literature, not just in comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: freshinthehouse on October 14, 2014, 11:29:10 PM
Can someone please explain to me the Zombie fad/fascination?  Where did it come from and why is it so popular.  I just don't get it.


Like others here have said, the modern zombie craze started with Romero's Night of the Living Dead.  Throughout the 70s and 80s a small but fanatical following formed around Romero's movies (Night, Dawn, and Day of the Dead) as well as several different European zombie movies.  By the 90s the genre had pretty much petered out.  I am rarely right about anything in life, but when I was in high school late 90s a buddy were BSing and I mentioned that a high-end remake of Dawn of the Dead would be a license to print money.  Sure enough 6-7 years later someone did remake DotD and sure enough it did make a ton of money.  Around this time Danny Boyle made 28 Days Later, a zombie* movie that was both critical and commercial success.  This started the build up to the zombie hysteria that we see today.



*Some of our more pedantic friends will decry listing 20 Days Later as a zombie movie, since the "zombies" aren't technically the undead.  Puh-lease.  If it walks (or this case runs) like a zombie, and it talks like a zombie, it's a flippin' zombie.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: obnoxiousmime on October 15, 2014, 12:32:59 AM
Mark me as one who was a little disappointed they just broke free so quickly. I realize it's the premiere and they needed to open with a bang, and also that they've been guilty in the past of stalling the action to save money with filler episodes, but the whole experience at Terminus ended up lasting just two episodes. An episode or two building up to the escape would have been great, giving us the chance to see how Terminus works and how the people psychologically rationalize such horror. Instead, they just gave us a little flashback and a teary scene with the mom.

Now we'll have 2-3 episodes of walking around and talking in the woods to pay for all effects and set pieces in episode 1. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 15, 2014, 01:21:11 AM
Mark me as one who was a little disappointed they just broke free so quickly. I realize it's the premiere and they needed to open with a bang, and also that they've been guilty in the past of stalling the action to save money with filler episodes, but the whole experience at Terminus ended up lasting just two episodes. An episode or two building up to the escape would have been great, giving us the chance to see how Terminus works and how the people psychologically rationalize such horror. Instead, they just gave us a little flashback and a teary scene with the mom.

Now we'll have 2-3 episodes of walking around and talking in the woods to pay for all effects and set pieces in episode 1.

They'll have to go back for Beth I'm guessing.  No way they're using all those Terminus sets for just 2 episodes.  And closing on a flashback to how Terminus used to be is a pretty big sign that they've got a lot more plot left.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: obnoxiousmime on October 15, 2014, 03:31:01 AM
Mark me as one who was a little disappointed they just broke free so quickly. I realize it's the premiere and they needed to open with a bang, and also that they've been guilty in the past of stalling the action to save money with filler episodes, but the whole experience at Terminus ended up lasting just two episodes. An episode or two building up to the escape would have been great, giving us the chance to see how Terminus works and how the people psychologically rationalize such horror. Instead, they just gave us a little flashback and a teary scene with the mom.

Now we'll have 2-3 episodes of walking around and talking in the woods to pay for all effects and set pieces in episode 1.

They'll have to go back for Beth I'm guessing.  No way they're using all those Terminus sets for just 2 episodes.  And closing on a flashback to how Terminus used to be is a pretty big sign that they've got a lot more plot left.

Wasn't Beth taken by some baddies in a car? I don't think those were the Terminus people, though anything's possible. Yes, the investment in the huge set would seem to suggest they have to go back but I can't figure out a reason they would right now.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 15, 2014, 06:36:25 AM
Mark me as one who was a little disappointed they just broke free so quickly. I realize it's the premiere and they needed to open with a bang, and also that they've been guilty in the past of stalling the action to save money with filler episodes, but the whole experience at Terminus ended up lasting just two episodes. An episode or two building up to the escape would have been great, giving us the chance to see how Terminus works and how the people psychologically rationalize such horror. Instead, they just gave us a little flashback and a teary scene with the mom.

Now we'll have 2-3 episodes of walking around and talking in the woods to pay for all effects and set pieces in episode 1.

They'll have to go back for Beth I'm guessing.  No way they're using all those Terminus sets for just 2 episodes.  And closing on a flashback to how Terminus used to be is a pretty big sign that they've got a lot more plot left.

Wasn't Beth taken by some baddies in a car? I don't think those were the Terminus people, though anything's possible. Yes, the investment in the huge set would seem to suggest they have to go back but I can't figure out a reason they would right now.

yes she was. in this last episode you could hear daryl in the background telling Maggie - "she was alive and took off in a car, last I saw her"
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Eddie20 on October 15, 2014, 07:44:41 AM
Some pretty cool info. Especially if that is indeed Negan, a major antagonist in the comics.

http://comicbook.com/2014/10/13/the-walking-dead-season-5-premiere-five-things-you-might-have-mi/

Especially if the
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 15, 2014, 10:45:56 AM
Didn't realize the guy who got his throat cut was that guy locked in the bathroom last season.  Interesting.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 15, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
Didn't realize the guy who got his throat cut was that guy locked in the bathroom last season.  Interesting.

that scene was so gruesome...I like this new Rick...scary, but more aggressive
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 15, 2014, 11:28:37 AM
Didn't realize the guy who got his throat cut was that guy locked in the bathroom last season.  Interesting.

that scene was so gruesome...I like this new Rick...scary, but more aggressive

It was gruesome, especially for cable, but that scene kinda had me rolling my eyes because you knew they were never gonna get to the main characters.  The show pulls its punches exactly where it shouldn't sometimes.  I mean, Tyrese basically has superpowers at this point.

I did like it when Rick said "kill them and don't hesitate, because they won't" right after the executioners hesitated to kill them about 4 times in a row.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: boscel33 on October 15, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Didn't realize the guy who got his throat cut was that guy locked in the bathroom last season.  Interesting.

that scene was so gruesome...I like this new Rick...scary, but more aggressive

Rick has finally turned into what Shane already was.  He understood what was needed to survive.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 15, 2014, 12:20:08 PM
Didn't realize the guy who got his throat cut was that guy locked in the bathroom last season.  Interesting.

that scene was so gruesome...I like this new Rick...scary, but more aggressive

Rick has finally turned into what Shane already was.  He understood what was needed to survive.

somewhat, difference is Shane does the necessary for himself, Rick does the necessary to keep the people he cares about alive
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on October 15, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
Mark me as one who was a little disappointed they just broke free so quickly. I realize it's the premiere and they needed to open with a bang, and also that they've been guilty in the past of stalling the action to save money with filler episodes, but the whole experience at Terminus ended up lasting just two episodes. An episode or two building up to the escape would have been great, giving us the chance to see how Terminus works and how the people psychologically rationalize such horror. Instead, they just gave us a little flashback and a teary scene with the mom.

Now we'll have 2-3 episodes of walking around and talking in the woods to pay for all effects and set pieces in episode 1.

They'll have to go back for Beth I'm guessing.  No way they're using all those Terminus sets for just 2 episodes.  And closing on a flashback to how Terminus used to be is a pretty big sign that they've got a lot more plot left.
Yeah, and some of the previews and "sneak peeks" clearly showed the Terminus leader later on, somewhere NOT Terminus, so that element is something that's going to continue, despite the fact that Terminus itself was destroyed/overrun, (and they showed the Terminus leader injured but NOT killed during their escape) ... I think he'll be the major antagonist this season, continuing beyond Terminus. I was also surprised that Terminus itself was put behind so quickly, tho I have no qualms about the gang escaping already, lol ... and being reuinted. After the ending to last season, I need a couple warm, fuzzy moments to ease the tension a bit ... things will be bad again in no time. ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 15, 2014, 04:33:25 PM
If you read my above post, I believe we saw a character in the train car,  who was torturing the
"Termites" who will be way worse than Terminus or any baddies they produced.   The guy who said this one, and they dragged off a female.  I hid the name in the post pretty obviously whom I believe that man to be.  It's on page 48.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2014, 10:28:04 AM
any speculation on the Preacher from the last episode?  the writing on the wall suggests something nasty in his past.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 23, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
any speculation on the Preacher from the last episode?  the writing on the wall suggests something nasty in his past.

I think he freaked and locked out his parishioners when things got bad.  That's why he was so rattled by seeing that woman he knew.

If you read my above post, I believe we saw a character in the train car,  who was torturing the
"Termites" who will be way worse than Terminus or any baddies they produced.   The guy who said this one, and they dragged off a female.  I hid the name in the post pretty obviously whom I believe that man to be.  It's on page 48.

I'm pretty sure that was the crazy guy they let out of a boxcar who promptly got eaten.  The guy with the beard yelling "WE'RE THE SAME!"
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on October 23, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
I'm thinking he probably went all Father Merrin and got people killed trying to exorcise the dead.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2014, 12:53:55 PM
I'm thinking he probably went all Father Merrin and got people killed trying to exorcise the dead.
interesting.  sort of like Herschel corraling them in his barn just without the people getting killed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 23, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
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any speculation on the Preacher from the last episode?  the writing on the wall suggests something nasty in his past.

I think foulweather has it right,  as I think people were trying to get in and he didn't risk it and kept the place locked up and let people looking for sanctuary die in the his past.   He fell apart when he saw that woman, I think she was one of them perhaps or a former lover.   But there were marks like someone tried to get into the Chapel.   Someone had  wrote he would burn in hades, on the church wall near the claw marks.   Karl noticed these if you paid attention to the episode, I think this is fairly easy to draw that conclusion, of course, it could be a red herring....
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 28, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
thoughts on the latest episode?  love that they polished off Gareth like that --> didn't want to waste the bullets.  priceless.

Also liked how Bob had the last laugh on the cannibals with them eating his infected flesh.  begs the question that if indeed the cannibals/Gareth thought it was safe to eat him because he was cooked, wouldn't they just be able to cook up a fresh zombie on the assumption that the corpse hadn't rotted yet?  any Gourmet chefs out there feel like tackling that one?  ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 28, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
thoughts on the latest episode?  love that they polished off Gareth like that --> didn't want to waste the bullets.  priceless.

First thought: 
any speculation on the Preacher from the last episode?  the writing on the wall suggests something nasty in his past.

I think he freaked and locked out his parishioners when things got bad.  That's why he was so rattled by seeing that woman he knew.

Booya!

Overall, I was pretty surprised they burned through that storyline so fast after an entire 1/2 season of buildup.  But it was fun seeing them get the drop on the Terminus guys.  Wish they'd done more on Tyrese refusing to kill that guy, though.

BTW, am I the only one who's really entertained by the fact that Maggie seems to have completely forgotten she has a sister?  This week's adventure: boarding a bus for DC while your sister's still captured and missing without even mentioning it!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 28, 2014, 03:53:33 PM
thoughts on the latest episode?  love that they polished off Gareth like that --> didn't want to waste the bullets.  priceless.

First thought: 
any speculation on the Preacher from the last episode?  the writing on the wall suggests something nasty in his past.

I think he freaked and locked out his parishioners when things got bad.  That's why he was so rattled by seeing that woman he knew.

Booya!

Overall, I was pretty surprised they burned through that storyline so fast after an entire 1/2 season of buildup.  But it was fun seeing them get the drop on the Terminus guys.  Wish they'd done more on Tyrese refusing to kill that guy, though.

BTW, am I the only one who's really entertained by the fact that Maggie seems to have completely forgotten she has a sister?  This week's adventure: boarding a bus for DC while your sister's still captured and missing without even mentioning it!
the Beth storyline did seem to be glazed over conveniently for quite awhile.  apparently that will be addressed in the next episode.  looking forward to seeing what's happened to her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 07, 2014, 11:33:08 AM
any thoughts on Carol showing up at the end of the Beth storyline this week?  wondering if she was just separated from Daryl while looking for Beth or if this is part of a bigger plan to check out the hospital colony
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: cons on November 07, 2014, 12:11:57 PM
I suspect carol will kill all of them and fairly quickly. They took her thinking she would be weak but shes strong. although i think they've already driven home that point so idk why we need to see it again.

but idk, i read the comics and this isnt in it at all so no idea where they're going w this actually. i like beth but im hoping we re-join the main crew soon. :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 07, 2014, 12:30:16 PM
I suspect carol will kill all of them and fairly quickly. They took her thinking she would be weak but shes strong. although i think they've already driven home that point so idk why we need to see it again.

but idk, i read the comics and this isnt in it at all so no idea where they're going w this actually. i like beth but im hoping we re-join the main crew soon. :)
I don't read the comics -- enjoying the idea of no clue what's coming up.  I think this storyline will either pull Beth back into the group (with some others looking to escape so that the group replenishes who they've lost recently) OR kills her off to give Maggie some angst about not being there when Beth was found and going off to Washington instead
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on November 07, 2014, 01:00:45 PM
I am intrigued and annoyed with the new dystopian group that has been introduced. We've already gone through 2 of these societies led by a wacky leader who thinks he is doing right.

However the show has been so good about keeping the societies different. Pulling the story back into a city is intriguing. If this section isn't in the comics then i am extra interested in seeing the writing team flex their muscles with some original content. This section is helping to further give Beth more depth as a character. Plus the evils of humankind are what keeps a zombie apocalypse story going forward.

I am very curious to see who Daryl has with him back at the church.

I have no idea what to expect. The scenes we have seen suggests that Daryl is reluctant, unhappy about who he has brought back to the group. Yet he does have his weapon. meanwhile Carrol looks unconscious. I am assuming she can't fake being unconscious. The writers could bait and switch us here. I am looking forward to the next episode!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 14, 2014, 09:16:43 AM
I suspect carol will kill all of them and fairly quickly. They took her thinking she would be weak but shes strong. although i think they've already driven home that point so idk why we need to see it again.

Here's a leaked preview of this week's episode:

(http://i.imgur.com/LFqmDbG.gif)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 14, 2014, 09:26:38 AM
I suspect carol will kill all of them and fairly quickly. They took her thinking she would be weak but shes strong. although i think they've already driven home that point so idk why we need to see it again.

Here's a leaked preview of this week's episode:

(http://i.imgur.com/LFqmDbG.gif)
Love it -- TP
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on November 14, 2014, 09:28:06 AM
I am intrigued and annoyed with the new dystopian group that has been introduced. We've already gone through 2 of these societies led by a wacky leader who thinks he is doing right.

However the show has been so good about keeping the societies different. Pulling the story back into a city is intriguing. If this section isn't in the comics then i am extra interested in seeing the writing team flex their muscles with some original content. This section is helping to further give Beth more depth as a character. Plus the evils of humankind are what keeps a zombie apocalypse story going forward.

I actually think this has been a bit of a retread, which is disappointing. The only reason I watch the Walking Dead is because, as a creative exercise, it's a fairly difficult proposition -- how do you keep the Zombie Apocalypse/Collapse of Human Civilization type thing interesting over five seasons? That's the reason you typically see it in the film format: you can get in, say what you want, and get out in two hours, without having to consider a longer story arc, which can be problematic.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 14, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
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I am very curious to see who Daryl has with him back at the church.

My money is on Morgan or Noah.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on November 14, 2014, 10:41:12 AM
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I am very curious to see who Daryl has with him back at the church.

My money is on Morgan or Noah.

Yeah i am thinking Noah.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 14, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
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I am very curious to see who Daryl has with him back at the church.

My money is on Morgan or Noah.

Yeah i am thinking Noah.

Gotta be Noah
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 18, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
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I am very curious to see who Daryl has with him back at the church.

My money is on Morgan or Noah.

Yeah i am thinking Noah.

Gotta be Noah
leaning that way myself after seeing the latest episode.  definitely setting up for a major confrontation to get Carol and Beth back.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on November 18, 2014, 03:49:03 PM
So next week is when they bust into the governor's spot to rescue Andrea and Micchione, right?

Oh. Wait.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 18, 2014, 03:52:21 PM
So next week is when they bust into the governor's spot to rescue Andrea and Micchione, right?

Oh. Wait.
now, now, let's not start implying that the Walking Dead refers to the writers recycling storylines. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mr October on November 18, 2014, 04:22:37 PM
That last episode was pretty dull and predictable. It sure was easy to maneuver around the city.

It's too bad since the episode also featured 2 of my favorite characters. Nonetheless looking forward to the next episode so that we can get some drama and tension back into the story.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 30, 2014, 11:50:28 PM
This episode was so-so until poof.

I don't get it though... Why not just leave?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2014, 11:58:15 PM
Ugh.....

Should have seen this coming ...from

Talking dead guest ......they always do this
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 30, 2014, 11:59:35 PM
Ugh.....

Should have seen this coming ...from

Talking dead guest ......they always do this

I still dont get it. It doesnt make sense to me... Im still trying to comprehend as to why...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on December 01, 2014, 01:22:57 AM
I expect 3-5 loses by season's end. Walkers need to become more of a fear factor again for audience.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 01, 2014, 06:32:18 AM
How could you not see it coming?   Walking dead always gives people a chance to shine before they die when a regular character on the show.  Beth had been spot lighted, Hershel and Dale were too before they died.  This has been a relatively consistent pattern.  Even the governor had a nice episode before he snapped.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 01, 2014, 07:23:06 AM
The talking dead sets it up ...they interview the current theme characters ....then they are axed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 01, 2014, 08:56:36 AM
How could you not see it coming?   Walking dead always gives people a chance to shine before they die when a regular character on the show.  Beth had been spot lighted, Hershel and Dale were too before they died.  This has been a relatively consistent pattern.  Even the governor had a nice episode before he snapped.

I know i got that, it's just sort of a stupid way to die is what I'm trying to say.

She could have easily walked with the group, instead, not only did go after Dawn, she missed. I guess what I'm saying is they could have set up the death scene a little better than something that doesnt make sense. They built her up as this strong minded individual this season, but she did a stupid thing in the end. She could have easily killed everybody in the group with her antics. I get it, Beth had to go (which I'm sad because she's one of the hottest of the cast), but cant they have a much more sensical death scene than that?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 08, 2015, 09:35:14 PM
Oh no


Not Tyreese :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on February 08, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
Oh no


Not Tyreese :o

Yeah, losing Tyrese stinks. I liked his character. Maybe he can be saved "Herschel" style, cut his arm off.

But that is the way of The Walking Dead; kill all of the good characters who aren't Rick or Carl. Those are the only two who I will ever be surprised to see die.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 08, 2015, 09:49:16 PM
Ugh ......


This sucks


Turrible :'(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 08, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
bummed about Tyrese.  didn't see him as the one being knocked off - especially this soon into the second half of the season. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on February 08, 2015, 10:51:33 PM
Killing Beth was one of the first times The Walking Dead folks have gotten a little lazy and formulaic.  Beth died pretty much just because it was the mid-season finale and they needed something big to happen.  On the other hand, while I hate to see Tyrese go, this seems more like a natural part of the story of the group hitting its lowest point yet.

I actually think the last two half-seasons have been very impressive from a storytelling standpoint.  They realized they couldn't really top The Governor saga and went out of their way to avoid repeating the Whedonesque "Big Bad" pattern.  And after two very long story arcs, the farm and the prison, they really upped the pace.

I saw Michonne's frantic desire to get off the road in tonight's episode as sort of mirroring the creative staff's understanding that the show has to change and grow before it becomes a glossier version of Z-Nation.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on February 08, 2015, 10:53:23 PM
Tyrese was one of my favorites  :(

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 01, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
Something is going down in Alexandria. Mark my words!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 01, 2015, 09:49:08 PM
Something is going down in Alexandria. Mark my words!

Man, I love this show! What I don't love, people who have to die to keep the story going, I fear every time we enter new areas.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 01, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
Something is going down in Alexandria. Mark my words!

Man, I love this show! What I don't love, people who have to die to keep the story going, I fear every time we enter new areas.

Yep! Something is seriously sketchy about this place, too. Someone took the gun Rick stashed away.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 01, 2015, 10:19:09 PM
The show is about .....

Bad scary things happening.......learn it ....don't forget it

The writers use many tricks lure the audience to feeling safe

Everyone should know , something bad is brewing

We just don't have enough info yet to figure it out.



Something is not right.....my guess .....is the people are paying somebody outside of the town to help them in some sick way .    They need new people to feed into some bizarre horror scheme.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 01, 2015, 10:24:26 PM
The show is about .....

Bad scary things happening.......learn it ....don't forget it

The writers use many tricks lure the audience to feeling safe

Everyone should know , something bad is brewing

We just don't have enough info yet to figure it out.



Something is not right.....my guess .....is the people are paying somebody outside of the town to help them in some sick way .    They need new people to feed into some bizarre horror scheme.

I don't know. By what Rick said at the end I tend to think there will be a power struggle where the group tries to seize the town after finding them too soft or weak.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 01, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
The show is about .....

Bad scary things happening.......learn it ....don't forget it

The writers use many tricks lure the audience to feeling safe

Everyone should know , something bad is brewing

We just don't have enough info yet to figure it out.



Something is not right.....my guess .....is the people are paying somebody outside of the town to help them in some sick way .    They need new people to feed into some bizarre horror scheme.

I don't know. By what Rick said at the end I tend to think there will be a power struggle where the group tries to seize the town after finding them too soft or weak.

Or they find , they simply don't fit into that way of living anymore.   The world has changed ,  so they decide they have changes forever with it .....reject the old ways of people ......head back out on their own once again.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: crownontherocks on March 01, 2015, 11:00:34 PM
Something is going down in Alexandria. Mark my words!

I know whats going to happen but dont want to spoil it for others
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 01, 2015, 11:05:59 PM
Of course something is sketchy about this place. The show would be over if it wasn't and the crew lives happily ever after. This show needs an end-game. Walking around killing zombies and then finding a good place only to have it turn out bad is getting pretty repetitive.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 01, 2015, 11:22:55 PM
Something is going down in Alexandria. Mark my words!

I know whats going to happen but dont want to spoil it for others

Don't do it! lol

Between TWD and Game of Thrones there are always spoilers out there lol

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111158154/3866453-2251774956-tumbl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 01, 2015, 11:23:43 PM
Of course something is sketchy about this place. The show would be over if it wasn't and the crew lives happily ever after. This show needs an end-game. Walking around killing zombies and then finding a good place only to have it turn out bad is getting pretty repetitive.

True that. And I love how they played up the whole Terminus deal for a whole season then only spent one episode there lol
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 01, 2015, 11:24:01 PM
I figured they shaved Rick to show some flashbacks.    I think Lucille will be coming to town soon.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 03, 2015, 11:09:58 AM
Of course something is sketchy about this place. The show would be over if it wasn't and the crew lives happily ever after. This show needs an end-game. Walking around killing zombies and then finding a good place only to have it turn out bad is getting pretty repetitive.
true, but I find the writers seems to always come up with twists to show human condition on these circumstances that just leave viewers going "whoa".  that story line with Carol, Tyrese and the 2 young sisters still sits in my head.  for that matter, everything Tyrese went through since that storyline still rolls through my head.

may be just me but I find the writing on this show more compelling than anything else on TV.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 08, 2015, 11:23:26 PM
Good Lord, Carol. Her transformation from battered housewife to total badass who has some sketchy motives is crazy. lol
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 08, 2015, 11:43:07 PM
Good Lord, Carol. Her transformation from battered housewife to total badass who has some sketchy motives is crazy. lol

Cookie Monster Carol. More like Scarol. Man, good luck on that kid sleeping every night. And is Daryl becoming soft? It's the motorcycle isn't it?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 08, 2015, 11:48:10 PM
Good Lord, Carol. Her transformation from battered housewife to total badass who has some sketchy motives is crazy. lol

Cookie Monster Carol. More like Scarol. Man, good luck on that kid sleeping every night. And is Daryl becoming soft? It's the motorcycle isn't it?

Haha there's actually a big fan theory that Daryl is gay. Almost seems as if the show was heading towards that direction tonight.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 15, 2015, 07:34:49 PM
(http://www.indietips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TWDS4_CC.jpeg)

The monsters are turning our heros into ... monsters.

What do you think's happening to our group? I think they're going to take advantage of this good, naive community, as they've now, (with the losses of Beth and Tyreese), lost their conscience, and what bit of humanity they had left.

I hope I'm wrong.

Carol actually frightens me a bit now, lol ... I think she pretty much lost it with what happened to the girls.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 15, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
Good Lord, Carol. Her transformation from battered housewife to total badass who has some sketchy motives is crazy. lol

Cookie Monster Carol. More like Scarol. Man, good luck on that kid sleeping every night. And is Daryl becoming soft? It's the motorcycle isn't it?

Haha there's actually a big fan theory that Daryl is gay. Almost seems as if the show was heading
towards that direction tonight.

I think the writers already came out and said that Daryl is not gay on one of the Talking Dead episodes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 15, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
(http://www.indietips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TWDS4_CC.jpeg)

The monsters are turning our heros into ... monsters.

What do you think's happening to our group? I think they're going to take advantage of this good, naive community, as they've now, (with the losses of Beth and Tyreese), lost their conscience, and what bit of humanity they had left.

I hope I'm wrong.

Carol actually frightens me a bit now, lol ... I think she pretty much lost it with what happened to the girls.

I had one of my friends text me during the episode last week saying, "Carol really stepped up her snitches get stitches talk this week." lol
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Chief on March 15, 2015, 08:15:50 PM
Rick is becoming Shane.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: GreenWarrior on March 15, 2015, 08:58:19 PM
carol's actually the best written character on this show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 15, 2015, 09:51:56 PM
Well, I see a takeover coming up now. This leaving people behind crap won't sit well with Rick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 15, 2015, 09:56:08 PM
 :o

Kill another brother

Dang
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 15, 2015, 09:58:20 PM
Rick is becoming Shane.

Naw.....that old woman is going to go nuts over her son.   She is suspicious that Ricks group is taking her power...

She become the governor
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 15, 2015, 10:04:24 PM
Wow, these next two episodes are going to be EPIC! I love it! I was borderline thinking that our group was in the wrong here, but I knew some stuff was up with those two young guys and the wifebeater. Dysfunctional as crap!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 15, 2015, 10:19:51 PM
sucks they killed Noah.

I think a blood bath is coming in the next 2 episodes when they take over the camp.  not liking anyone in that camp right now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 15, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
sucks they killed Noah.

I think a blood bath is coming in the next 2 episodes when they take over the camp.  not liking anyone in that camp right now.

Except Rick's new girl, (the doctor's wife), I think she's good people ... she'll get rid of her abusive hubby, find a good man to take care of her and her son, and Rick will finally have someone to heal the loss of his wife. Works out well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on March 15, 2015, 10:46:56 PM
Very eventful episode, to say the least ... guess it had to be, as there have been a few "quiet" ones. Very GOOD episode as well, though the most graphic so far ... acting, writing, production, filming, direction - all top notch, and I'd have to say one of the best in quite a while. Can kinda see where we're headed here for the end of season five, and it certainly DOES raise the whole bar.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 15, 2015, 10:54:08 PM
Very eventful episode, to say the least ... guess it had to be, as there have been a few "quiet" ones. Very GOOD episode as well, though the most graphic so far ... acting, writing, production, filming, direction - all top notch, and I'd have to say one of the best in quite a while. Can kinda see where we're headed here for the end of season five, and it certainly DOES raise the whole bar.

Definitely. They seemed to really focus all of that controversy in this episode instead of spreading it out over the last several episodes, making the last several pretty slow. Excited for the end of the season, especially because I believe the last episode is a special 1.5 hour long episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Mencius on March 15, 2015, 11:44:54 PM
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 16, 2015, 12:02:15 AM
sucks they killed Noah.

I think a blood bath is coming in the next 2 episodes when they take over the camp.  not liking anyone in that camp right now.

I didn't see that coming, that was a bit heartbreaking for me. Not that Noah was a strong enough of a character to like or hate, but just the sheer surprise of him being killed off got me. And the look he gave when he was pushed to the glass door, something like a "why'd you let go?" and a bit of realizing what was coming, it had me quite shocked.

And I agree, I think there's going to be a massive fight and the group takes over that camp. There's some animosity in the entire camp already, with people fighting and stuff. Expect more deaths. And with that Nicolas dude actually causing a casualty by leaving, oh it's on.

But really, Noah, did not see that coming.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 22, 2015, 09:41:27 PM
I believe we've reached the point of no return at Alexandria. These softies need to go!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on March 22, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
Gabriel is horrible. Rick and Co. saved his butt numerous times, and then he goes and throws them under the bus. Weak.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 29, 2015, 10:10:42 PM
Wow .....stuff going down
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 29, 2015, 10:40:45 PM
Holy hell. Greatest Walking Dead episode ever, and it's up there on my favorite episode of any show. SO MANY FEELS!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Beat LA on March 29, 2015, 10:57:20 PM
Sorry, guys, I love these things, lol. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxvo8AcpQQ
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Forza Juventus on May 21, 2015, 10:27:04 PM
I love this show so much.  :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 27, 2015, 01:29:27 PM
anyone catch Fear the Walking Dead?

I think the premise has some real promise -- the beginning of the zombie apocalypse before anyone really knew what they were dealing with.  Hoping that at some point they put together a solid story explaining how it all started.

show looked good in the premier.  Hoping it continues to develop and improve
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on August 27, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
anyone catch Fear the Walking Dead?

I think the premise has some real promise -- the beginning of the zombie apocalypse before anyone really knew what they were dealing with.  Hoping that at some point they put together a solid story explaining how it all started.

show looked good in the premier.  Hoping it continues to develop and improve

I liked it a lot.  Has a lot of potential.   The slow build to absolute anarchy should be amazing if they do it right.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on August 27, 2015, 02:17:54 PM
anyone catch Fear the Walking Dead?

I think the premise has some real promise -- the beginning of the zombie apocalypse before anyone really knew what they were dealing with.  Hoping that at some point they put together a solid story explaining how it all started.

show looked good in the premier.  Hoping it continues to develop and improve
I feel like most of the shows on amc improve the longer they are on. The Walking dead (along with Breaking Bad) is a prime example of this. I'm hoping that Fear the Walking dead improves upon the early mistakes of the Walking Dead and ends up being a better show. I have high hopes for this show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on August 27, 2015, 02:18:53 PM
I read an interview about it and they said that they are not going to tell why it all happened, just different people dealing with it and this time from the beginning. Probably a good idea, don't do anything in the new show that could take away from the old one.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 27, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
I read an interview about it and they said that they are not going to tell why it all happened, just different people dealing with it and this time from the beginning. Probably a good idea, don't do anything in the new show that could take away from the old one.
interesting.  hoping that before all of the Walking Dead shows (including any and all spinoffs) run their course, at least one of them provides an answer or at least an implicit clue to the source.  After watching the premier, I got the feeling they were going to tie the cause to the flu vaccine everyone was getting.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on August 27, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
I still have it on DVR. Yet to watch it. I don't have high hopes for enjoying it, simply because I started watching the other show first, even though I think TWD has really gone down hill since the end of season 3.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 27, 2015, 02:38:24 PM
I still have it on DVR. Yet to watch it. I don't have high hopes for enjoying it, simply because I started watching the other show first, even though I think TWD has really gone down hill since the end of season 3.
just curious, what about the show do you think is worse since that third season?

I've heard a couple of other people mention that but one person was disappointed that there wasn't more zombies and one person was disappointed in the storyline not following the books more closely.

Personally, I still think it's the best show on television and the human interest part of the storylines has been excellent.  I go back to the episode with the 2 young girls with Carol and Tyreke at that house where the older sister kills the younger one thinking she will be ok.  that was just deep psychological impact and the resulting decisions on their part with what to do with that girl. 

I'd also point to when Noah was allowed to die by that **** from the pacifist group in the revolving door.  The drama of the cowardice opposed to the bravery as well as the desperation of the human mind  was another really solid piece.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on August 27, 2015, 02:48:56 PM
Walking Dead has had some ridiculous ebbs & flows in its existence.  Thought the show started out strong then sort've stalled out while at the farmhouse, then it picked up again at the prison, then fizzled a bit, then bounced back this past season. 

LOST was a bit similar in that regard.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on August 27, 2015, 03:03:01 PM
I still have it on DVR. Yet to watch it. I don't have high hopes for enjoying it, simply because I started watching the other show first, even though I think TWD has really gone down hill since the end of season 3.
just curious, what about the show do you think is worse since that third season?

I've heard a couple of other people mention that but one person was disappointed that there wasn't more zombies and one person was disappointed in the storyline not following the books more closely.

Personally, I still think it's the best show on television and the human interest part of the storylines has been excellent.  I go back to the episode with the 2 young girls with Carol and Tyreke at that house where the older sister kills the younger one thinking she will be ok.  that was just deep psychological impact and the resulting decisions on their part with what to do with that girl. 

I'd also point to when Noah was allowed to die by that **** from the pacifist group in the revolving door.  The drama of the cowardice opposed to the bravery as well as the desperation of the human mind  was another really solid piece.

There have definitely been some very good episodes in the last couple of seasons (particularly the "Look at the flowers" episode), but they've been surrounded by so many "filler" episodes that the show itself gets watered down. My inner nerd is coming out here, but it's very similar to Dragonball Z in that there seems to be SOOOO many filler episodes that you just end up losing a lot of interest after awhile.

Another thing that kind of ticked me off about the show was Terminus. They built up to it the entire second half of the fourth season only for it to essentially be a cliffhanger at the end of season 4 and a single episode to start season five. Then they took the opposite route with Alexandria and played it out a bit throughout season five. For me, the cannibal storyline was much more interesting than the pacifist storyline.

I think they should've modeled more off of the Game of Thrones model, or even how they were at the beginning of the show, with fewer episodes. Each season is only 16 episodes, but in all honesty it's so drawn out that it seems like there are 25+ in each season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: celtic -_- pride on August 27, 2015, 03:25:19 PM
big comic fan and in general zombie enthusiast. (not over the top though in a weird way). I feel TWD has been excellent ever since Scott Gimple took over the helm. Season three started strong but soon became atrocious. They ruined the governor for me. Loved how they handled Terminus. The Survivors were seasoned at that point and knew how to handle themselves. Plus it wasn't just two episodes it carried on for about roughly 4 in total. The Hunters(cannibals) were never meant to be a major threat.

as far as FearTWD goes I probably wont watch it. I like Rick Grimes too much to support that. Plus I feel it will become far more repetitive to the earlier seasons of TWD. POSSIBLE SPOILER I do believe they created FTWD to have a show with much more zombies. TWD will soon be transitioning away from the zombie threat even further as more locations are discovered (including the next big bad/the wolves are playground bullies compared to this guy). I believe FTWD is meant to please the fans who constantly complain about the lack of zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on August 27, 2015, 03:29:48 PM
My excitement for the WD was starting to wane a bit by the end of last season .   ....I think it is getting kinda ....mundane or old with me I guess.

Now......I think Hell on Wheels was the best season ever .....they seem to be getting more interesting ..to me ....I like western themes though and history is a kinda hobby.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Forza Juventus on August 27, 2015, 05:40:01 PM
I really liked the first episode of Fear the Walking Dead but The Walking Dead is my favorite show ever  :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on August 31, 2015, 10:06:15 PM
I ve watched both shows of new Fear Walking Dead .....alarming trend?

Yikes ......already !

two brothers dead and third got bit  :-X
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on September 25, 2015, 09:24:52 AM
I ve watched both shows of new Fear Walking Dead .....alarming trend?

Yikes ......already !

two brothers dead and third got bit  :-X
Been following the first 4 episodes -- like the premise a lot.  I find I'm liking the contrast between Ruben Blades' character and Cliff Curtis' characters.  Ruben calling Cliff's character soft and that it will end up costing him in the end has set an interesting tone to how that survivor's dynamic will evolve.

The recent episode where the army hauled off Nick should be interesting (I hope).

I've been looking for any characters that may be in this show that have been in The Walking Dead but haven't seen any yet.  probably makes sense since this is in LA (I believe) where TWD is on the east coast.  Anyone see a character from TWD I may have missed?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on September 25, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
I ve watched both shows of new Fear Walking Dead .....alarming trend?

Yikes ......already !

two brothers dead and third got bit  :-X
Been following the first 4 episodes -- like the premise a lot.  I find I'm liking the contrast between Ruben Blades' character and Cliff Curtis' characters.  Ruben calling Cliff's character soft and that it will end up costing him in the end has set an interesting tone to how that survivor's dynamic will evolve.

The recent episode where the army hauled off Nick should be interesting (I hope).

I've been looking for any characters that may be in this show that have been in The Walking Dead but haven't seen any yet.  probably makes sense since this is in LA (I believe) where TWD is on the east coast.  Anyone see a character from TWD I may have missed?

None.  FTWD has been totally stand alone from TWD so far.   Given the timeline (barring flashbacks or something), we may not see any crossover for seasons.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on September 25, 2015, 10:05:55 AM
I had a hard time with the first 3 episodes of FotWD because... I mean, you know how the story ends. And they've successfully ripped off the intro of 28 Days Later twice in two series, which is nice for those of us who follow the horror genre in general.

They both suffer from the fact that neither story is really destined for perpetuity, which explains the highs and lows in storytelling. It is shot better than TWD, though.

The franchise remains the Big Mac of horror. Tasty. Not very satisfying for the palate or the body or anything beyond your reptile brain.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on September 25, 2015, 10:12:52 AM
I ve watched both shows of new Fear Walking Dead .....alarming trend?

Yikes ......already !

two brothers dead and third got bit  :-X
Been following the first 4 episodes -- like the premise a lot.  I find I'm liking the contrast between Ruben Blades' character and Cliff Curtis' characters.  Ruben calling Cliff's character soft and that it will end up costing him in the end has set an interesting tone to how that survivor's dynamic will evolve.

The recent episode where the army hauled off Nick should be interesting (I hope).

I've been looking for any characters that may be in this show that have been in The Walking Dead but haven't seen any yet.  probably makes sense since this is in LA (I believe) where TWD is on the east coast.  Anyone see a character from TWD I may have missed?

None.  FTWD has been totally stand alone from TWD so far.   Given the timeline (barring flashbacks or something), we may not see any crossover for seasons.

Barring a secret airplane I don't see how they'd crossover at all.  Very different angles. 

It does seem Los Angeles did a little bit better job at managing the initial outbreak than Atlanta did though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on September 25, 2015, 10:15:04 AM
I ve watched both shows of new Fear Walking Dead .....alarming trend?

Yikes ......already !

two brothers dead and third got bit  :-X
Been following the first 4 episodes -- like the premise a lot.  I find I'm liking the contrast between Ruben Blades' character and Cliff Curtis' characters.  Ruben calling Cliff's character soft and that it will end up costing him in the end has set an interesting tone to how that survivor's dynamic will evolve.

The recent episode where the army hauled off Nick should be interesting (I hope).

I've been looking for any characters that may be in this show that have been in The Walking Dead but haven't seen any yet.  probably makes sense since this is in LA (I believe) where TWD is on the east coast.  Anyone see a character from TWD I may have missed?

None.  FTWD has been totally stand alone from TWD so far.   Given the timeline (barring flashbacks or something), we may not see any crossover for seasons.

Barring a secret airplane I don't see how they'd crossover at all.  Very different angles. 

It does seem Los Angeles did a little bit better job at managing the initial outbreak than Atlanta did though.

I guess I could see some CDC crossover here in the beginning.  Besides that, unless its flashback character interaction (pre-outbreak), the crossover could be tough for now. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on September 25, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
I ve watched both shows of new Fear Walking Dead .....alarming trend?

Yikes ......already !

two brothers dead and third got bit  :-X
Been following the first 4 episodes -- like the premise a lot.  I find I'm liking the contrast between Ruben Blades' character and Cliff Curtis' characters.  Ruben calling Cliff's character soft and that it will end up costing him in the end has set an interesting tone to how that survivor's dynamic will evolve.

The recent episode where the army hauled off Nick should be interesting (I hope).

I've been looking for any characters that may be in this show that have been in The Walking Dead but haven't seen any yet.  probably makes sense since this is in LA (I believe) where TWD is on the east coast.  Anyone see a character from TWD I may have missed?

None.  FTWD has been totally stand alone from TWD so far.   Given the timeline (barring flashbacks or something), we may not see any crossover for seasons.

Barring a secret airplane I don't see how they'd crossover at all.  Very different angles. 

It does seem Los Angeles did a little bit better job at managing the initial outbreak than Atlanta did though.

I guess I could see some CDC crossover here in the beginning.  Besides that, unless its flashback character interaction (pre-outbreak), the crossover could be tough for now. 
thanks - I was just wondering if there had been a character crossover that I had missed. 

I would think that if one were to occur, whomever the character was would have to make the cross-country trip early in the outbreak.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on September 25, 2015, 10:56:10 AM
I had a hard time with the first 3 episodes of FotWD because... I mean, you know how the story ends. And they've successfully ripped off the intro of 28 Days Later twice in two series, which is nice for those of us who follow the horror genre in general.

Which bit of the new show ripped off 28 Days Later?  I guess the junkie waking up to Brave New Zombie World was similar-ish, but it wasn't like he was out for a few weeks, and society was still very much intact.  Or did you mean the time skip at the start of the last one?


...I liked the first 3 episodes myself, but was severely let down by the last one.  I know they don't have the budget to really show the zombies taking over on any kind of broad scale, but having them survive one night of hell and then saying "Welp, it's been a week and half, errbody dead now" seemed like a major copout.  And the menace they were trying to build around the military mostly felt flat to me.  Hopefully the next two episodes will redeem that a bit.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on September 25, 2015, 11:02:26 AM
I had a hard time with the first 3 episodes of FotWD because... I mean, you know how the story ends. And they've successfully ripped off the intro of 28 Days Later twice in two series, which is nice for those of us who follow the horror genre in general.

Which bit of the new show ripped off 28 Days Later?  I guess the junkie waking up to Brave New Zombie World was similar-ish, but it wasn't like he was out for a few weeks, and society was still very much intact.  Or did you mean the time skip at the start of the last one?

Oh, the mise en scène (particularly the lighting, color palate and some of the angles) from the opening of FotWD was straight out of the Church scene in 28 Days. Obviously the setup for TWD proper is straight out of 28 Days (man wakes up in hospital with no one around) and there's a lot of probably deliberate nods to that in TWD when Grimes wakes up.

28 Days is my gold standard for zombie movies, so that's in no way a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on September 25, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
I had a hard time with the first 3 episodes of FotWD because... I mean, you know how the story ends. And they've successfully ripped off the intro of 28 Days Later twice in two series, which is nice for those of us who follow the horror genre in general.

Which bit of the new show ripped off 28 Days Later?  I guess the junkie waking up to Brave New Zombie World was similar-ish, but it wasn't like he was out for a few weeks, and society was still very much intact.  Or did you mean the time skip at the start of the last one?

Oh, the mise en scène (particularly the lighting, color palate and some of the angles) from the opening of FotWD was straight out of the Church scene in 28 Days.

Oh, ok, I can see that.  Haven't watched 28DL recently enough to make the connection. I think junkieland was supposed to be an abandoned church too, so it makes sense there'd be some homage going on there.

...I still go with the original Dawn of the Dead myself, warts and all, though that's probably nostalgia talking.


EDIT: [REC] was a terrific zombie movie too, though it's in Spanish and I hear the English version (Quarantine) is not as good.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on September 25, 2015, 11:16:39 AM
Yeah it's a Church in FoTWD too. That's part of what makes it so easy.

Dawn of the Dead is great, for sure. Still more effective than a lot of the zombie genre, and also, if anyone hasn't seen it, it's widely available on the internet since it's in the Public Domain.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on September 25, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
At times quite frankly it has been boring to me, not as much action as I am used too.   I get it is early in the series and they are building characters.  It better stabilize in the ratings soon, however, I do not see it in imminent danger.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2440966/fear-the-walking-dead-drops-in-ratings-again-but-so-does-the-emmys/

http://www.inquisitr.com/2433275/fear-the-walking-dead-heres-why-we-shouldnt-worry-about-its-dip-in-ratings/

The drug son acts too hard to be like a young Johnny Depp.  His looks, even his acting and line delivery are similar and on purpose on his part.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on September 25, 2015, 11:38:44 AM
At times quite frankly it has been boring to me, not as much action as I am used too.   I get it is early in the series and they are building characters.  It better stabilize in the ratings soon, however, I do not see it in imminent danger.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2440966/fear-the-walking-dead-drops-in-ratings-again-but-so-does-the-emmys/

http://www.inquisitr.com/2433275/fear-the-walking-dead-heres-why-we-shouldnt-worry-about-its-dip-in-ratings/

The drug son acts too hard to be like a young Johnny Depp.  His looks, even his acting and line delivery are similar and on purpose on his part.

Yeah, so far I'm not a big fan of the characters.  None seem that likable.  Maybe the mom but that's about it.

The drugged out son is annoying as heck.  So is his sister.  The dad seems clueless to what's going on around him and seems like the type that will get people killed.  I like the guy I like best is Ruben Blades character because he really doesn't give a crap yet seems to be more aware than the idiots around him (not that its tough).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on September 25, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
Fun facts about druggie kid:  he's the son of the guy who plays Stannis on Game of Thrones, and also played young Voldemort in Harry Potter.

(http://data.whicdn.com/images/31570602/large.jpg)


And he's been kinda obnoxious on the show, though I liked him better early on. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on September 25, 2015, 12:40:39 PM
At times quite frankly it has been boring to me, not as much action as I am used too.   I get it is early in the series and they are building characters.  It better stabilize in the ratings soon, however, I do not see it in imminent danger.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2440966/fear-the-walking-dead-drops-in-ratings-again-but-so-does-the-emmys/

http://www.inquisitr.com/2433275/fear-the-walking-dead-heres-why-we-shouldnt-worry-about-its-dip-in-ratings/

The drug son acts too hard to be like a young Johnny Depp.  His looks, even his acting and line delivery are similar and on purpose on his part.

Yeah, so far I'm not a big fan of the characters.  None seem that likable.  Maybe the mom but that's about it.

The drugged out son is annoying as heck.  So is his sister.  The dad seems clueless to what's going on around him and seems like the type that will get people killed.  I like the guy I like best is Ruben Blades character because he really doesn't give a crap yet seems to be more aware than the idiots around him (not that its tough).
I was trying to think who that kid was trying to imitate -- Depp -- nailed it.

have to agree on the characters -- I'm not being drawn it to care about any of them right now.  agree that Ruben and the mom character seem to have the most potential right now.  If the step-father has a turning point where he goes from thinking there's hope to realizing there is none, that could turn into something decent.  right now I think the strength of the show is pulling from an interest in seeing how the TWD world got to that point.  I do think that they've got to develop characters that draw more interest in order to build it to TWD level ( or fairly close to it) in terms of a following.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on September 25, 2015, 01:06:43 PM
Not a fan of FTWD. Think they really blew it. We went from normal society to Woodbury in 4 episodes. They should have made the first season all about how each character first experiences their first walkers. I was okay with episode one and two they should have kept that pace to show what these characters lost and who they were. Making their survival more about how lucky/unlucky they were to see/make contact with a walker early in the outbreak. That experience being how they understand they must run. The season finale should have been when police containment fails (family must escape the city choas) and national guard comes in (saving/evacuating family). So my main disappointment comes from believing the show should be or was supposed to be about fall of society. I guess they weren't committed to that different a show from TWD. It feels like they wanted to get closer to TWD formula ASAP. I actually enjoy TWD and sure FTWD will be OK despite my early disappointment on the direction of the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on September 25, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Saw this today

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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 02, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Saw this today

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can't see any pictures since the forum issues from a couple of weeks ago -- what's the picture of?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: D.o.s. on October 02, 2015, 09:22:31 AM
Cast headshots from each season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 08, 2015, 11:38:53 AM
I thought Sunday's "midseason finale" of FTWD was pretty decent.  Definitely got your zombie quantity fix anyhow.

Looking forward to the real deal starting back up this weekend.

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/02bda07ea1/amc-please-kill-carl-this-season-on-the-walking-dead-cause-we-ve-earned-it?_cc=S_d___&_ccid=nlm1br.nvwr8w
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 08, 2015, 11:45:56 AM
I thought Sunday's "midseason finale" of FTWD was pretty decent.  Definitely got your zombie quantity fix anyhow.


I thought it was pretty funny how the main group wound up being the biggest villains in the entire season, torturing a soldier, letting out thousands of zombies and getting a lot of people killed for no real reason, since they were going to evac the hospital patients anyway.  They also managed to leave the gate to their community wide open, meaning they're either dead from the Cobalt bomb or will face the zombie mob. 

Somebody else said this but I think it's pretty accurate - this bunch is like the origin story for one of the "bad guy" groups the regular Walking Dead crew encounters.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 08, 2015, 11:58:38 AM
I thought Sunday's "midseason finale" of FTWD was pretty decent.  Definitely got your zombie quantity fix anyhow.


I thought it was pretty funny how the main group wound up being the biggest villains in the entire season, torturing a soldier, letting out thousands of zombies and getting a lot of people killed for no real reason, since they were going to evac the hospital patients anyway.  They also managed to leave the gate to their community wide open, meaning they're either dead from the Cobalt bomb or will face the zombie mob. 

Somebody else said this but I think it's pretty accurate - this bunch is like the origin story for one of the "bad guy" groups the regular Walking Dead crew encounters.
interesting take on that.  they did say they were considering heading east.  bummed the ex-wife had to be taken out at the end.  she was starting to look promising at the end.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 08, 2015, 12:02:46 PM
Oh, its the most unlikable group ever.  The kids are annoying as heck.  The dad drives me nuts with his decision making.  Salazar's daughter is pretty unlikable.  Salazar & the Mom have potential.

However, I think the most interesting character right now, easily, is Strand.  Really would like to see how they develop him.   Has a ton of potential.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 08, 2015, 12:07:01 PM
I thought Sunday's "midseason finale" of FTWD was pretty decent.  Definitely got your zombie quantity fix anyhow.


I thought it was pretty funny how the main group wound up being the biggest villains in the entire season, torturing a soldier, letting out thousands of zombies and getting a lot of people killed for no real reason, since they were going to evac the hospital patients anyway.  They also managed to leave the gate to their community wide open, meaning they're either dead from the Cobalt bomb or will face the zombie mob. 

Somebody else said this but I think it's pretty accurate - this bunch is like the origin story for one of the "bad guy" groups the regular Walking Dead crew encounters.
interesting take on that.  they did say they were considering heading east.  bummed the ex-wife had to be taken out at the end.  she was starting to look promising at the end.

Oh I don't think they'll literally wind up as adversaries for Rick et al, I think we're actually supposed to be rooting for them.  It's just that their decisions have been really short-sighted and led to a lot of people dying who'd otherwise be alive.  I think it's just clumsy plotting instead of a deliberate choice, but man did they screw a lot of people over in the last 2 episodes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 08, 2015, 12:10:11 PM
I thought Sunday's "midseason finale" of FTWD was pretty decent.  Definitely got your zombie quantity fix anyhow.


I thought it was pretty funny how the main group wound up being the biggest villains in the entire season, torturing a soldier, letting out thousands of zombies and getting a lot of people killed for no real reason, since they were going to evac the hospital patients anyway.  They also managed to leave the gate to their community wide open, meaning they're either dead from the Cobalt bomb or will face the zombie mob. 

Somebody else said this but I think it's pretty accurate - this bunch is like the origin story for one of the "bad guy" groups the regular Walking Dead crew encounters.

Yeah, it's amazing how much debate there was regarding whether to kill the soldier, versus none at all to in all likelihood kill every single person at the military base.  Dad didn't seem to blink an eye at that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 08, 2015, 12:18:32 PM
I thought Sunday's "midseason finale" of FTWD was pretty decent.  Definitely got your zombie quantity fix anyhow.


I thought it was pretty funny how the main group wound up being the biggest villains in the entire season, torturing a soldier, letting out thousands of zombies and getting a lot of people killed for no real reason, since they were going to evac the hospital patients anyway.  They also managed to leave the gate to their community wide open, meaning they're either dead from the Cobalt bomb or will face the zombie mob. 

Somebody else said this but I think it's pretty accurate - this bunch is like the origin story for one of the "bad guy" groups the regular Walking Dead crew encounters.
interesting take on that.  they did say they were considering heading east.  bummed the ex-wife had to be taken out at the end.  she was starting to look promising at the end.

Oh I don't think they'll literally wind up as adversaries for Rick et al, I think we're actually supposed to be rooting for them.  It's just that their decisions have been really short-sighted and led to a lot of people dying who'd otherwise be alive.  I think it's just clumsy plotting instead of a deliberate choice, but man did they screw a lot of people over in the last 2 episodes.
definitely showed the worst of a me-first mentality with that crew.  guess they need an outlet for some people to root for the zombies (other than rooting for them to finally get Carl on TWD)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 08, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
The kids are annoying as heck.
to be fair, can't that be said about every show that has kids?  ;)

I know I've certainly watched a number of shows with annoying kids where I'd wished some zombies would come along and take care of them.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 08, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
The kids are annoying as heck.
to be fair, can't that be said about every show that has kids?  ;)

I know I've certainly watched a number of shows with annoying kids where I'd wished some zombies would come along and take care of them.

They're not on Carl level but, then again, who is.  That bar is ridiculously high.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 08, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
Carl is a worthwhile character solely because he led to the Bad Lip Reading guys making the "Carl Poppa" song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 11, 2015, 10:33:21 PM
Freaking cliffhangers...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on October 12, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
On FTWD I have seen a lot of comments about how coud the family let all the walkers out. I only watched it once, but do we know for sure that Salazar didn't do it alone? Maybe the family didn't know. Or is it just that the kid was about to die so they had to get in somehow?


As for last nights Walking Dead, I can't help but think a better plan could have been made. It would be so much better to kill the walkers rather than divert them. Couldn't they rig up some booby trap where the walkers kill themselves?

It got me thiking, what would be the best walker trap? Any clever ideas for how to build a walker trap? Maybe some sort of noise maker hung out over the cliff and then build walls to make a path that leads to the walkers going over the cliff. If they don't die, they just do it again. What does burning walkers do? Could they have just thrown gas on the quarry and burned them? would the fire damage the brain before it ran out of skin and hair to burn? I'm not sure my ideas work, and it wouldn't have mattered as they didn't have much time, but it seems like they could have come up with a simpler plan. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 12, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
On FTWD I have seen a lot of comments about how coud the family let all the walkers out. I only watched it once, but do we know for sure that Salazar didn't do it alone? Maybe the family didn't know. Or is it just that the kid was about to die so they had to get in somehow?


As for last nights Walking Dead, I can't help but think a better plan could have been made. It would be so much better to kill the walkers rather than divert them. Couldn't they rig up some booby trap where the walkers kill themselves?

It got me thiking, what would be the best walker trap? Any clever ideas for how to build a walker trap? Maybe some sort of noise maker hung out over the cliff and then build walls to make a path that leads to the walkers going over the cliff. If they don't die, they just do it again. What does burning walkers do? Could they have just thrown gas on the quarry and burned them? would the fire damage the brain before it ran out of skin and hair to burn? I'm not sure my ideas work, and it wouldn't have mattered as they didn't have much time, but it seems like they could have come up with a simpler plan.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2732788/pink-floyd-meat-grinder-o.gif)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 12, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
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The kids are annoying as heck.

I thought it was pretty obvious, they hired the daughter to be eye candy.

A good walker trap would be leading the walkers into a slaughter house into pens and dispatching them with a bolt gun.   Those pens hold cattle so they could hold walkers and bolt guns do not mess around.  With the bars there would be a high degree of safety.   This would only be practical with a certain size of horde.  The cliff would be better with one addition, sharpened stakes.   Walkers tend to get pinned on them.  So you go down and take them at leisure if they were pinned.   The best walker trap would be one that involved giving them a virus that would infect them and nuetralize the virus that animates them.  Problem solved, they would die because the virus only animates them once they are dead.   This would cure the living and end the show though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on October 12, 2015, 12:51:24 PM
Well some of my solutions for the herd.
1. Short term solution= Just park another trailer up further on the ridge to keep them in. Its simple and you already know it works.
2. Most unlikely solution= Wait for rain in the quarry and try electrocution.
3. Most scary solution= drive a large caged bulldozer or other construction vehicle into the herd to just crush and bury them. Who would drive it?
4. Coolest effects= Road tree trimmer. It can reach into the "pen", sound attracts them and blades cut them up.
5. Most dangerous= Tossing in small amounts of dynamite at a bunch of spots by everyon. This would thin the herd to a mob which they can handle and it deepens the quarry. Danger is it will attract more walkers and maybe collapse the ridge.
6. Most patient solution=burning them will take awhile if they can move around.
7. Prefferd solution=lead the herd out via lifted pickups. People ride in back with long spiked poles killing the walkers as they ride inches ahead of the herd. You don't just lead them away but you destroy the herd.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 13, 2015, 01:55:51 PM
Well some of my solutions for the herd.
1. Short term solution= Just park another trailer up further on the ridge to keep them in. Its simple and you already know it works.
2. Most unlikely solution= Wait for rain in the quarry and try electrocution.
3. Most scary solution= drive a large caged bulldozer or other construction vehicle into the herd to just crush and bury them. Who would drive it?
4. Coolest effects= Road tree trimmer. It can reach into the "pen", sound attracts them and blades cut them up.
5. Most dangerous= Tossing in small amounts of dynamite at a bunch of spots by everyon. This would thin the herd to a mob which they can handle and it deepens the quarry. Danger is it will attract more walkers and maybe collapse the ridge.
6. Most patient solution=burning them will take awhile if they can move around.
7. Prefferd solution=lead the herd out via lifted pickups. People ride in back with long spiked poles killing the walkers as they ride inches ahead of the herd. You don't just lead them away but you destroy the herd.
interesting options.  I was wondering why they just didn't get a fuel dump into that pit and light them all up.  not sure electrocution would work.  as for mashing them, would look into a caged-enforced steamroller as a first option (depending on manueverability)

that said, anyone sad to see Ethan Embry's character go?  Rick's character needs someone contrasting but he was way too whiny to want to see stick around for any length of time.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on October 13, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
i never realy had any greif with TWD, but after seeing so much complaining about FTWD it got me thinking. What if i lived in this world? wouldnt the easiest solution be to kill all the walkers? If you could make traps that work on all sides of you wouldn't that work?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 13, 2015, 02:37:56 PM
i never realy had any greif with TWD, but after seeing so much complaining about FTWD it got me thinking. What if i lived in this world? wouldnt the easiest solution be to kill all the walkers? If you could make traps that work on all sides of you wouldn't that work?

it does make you wonder why someone (or group) hasn't tried that approach yet.

as the saying goes "Build a better Dead trap and the world (of the Walking Dead) will beat a path to your door (and then really die in the trap)"
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on October 13, 2015, 03:34:42 PM
i never realy had any greif with TWD, but after seeing so much complaining about FTWD it got me thinking. What if i lived in this world? wouldnt the easiest solution be to kill all the walkers? If you could make traps that work on all sides of you wouldn't that work?
Seems numbers is the biggest problem with trying to kill every walker. There is always more coming or eventually a herd hits overloading your defenses. Too many walkers to kill safely and you lose people. Which is why I'd think finding more people is the most important quest after basic survival. It's probably better to keep moving to avoid being caught be a mob or herd unless you have a under ground bunker to wait out a herd.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 13, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
Burning isn't really practical especially with no flammable material around and fuel a precious commodity.  But getting them to walk off a cliff/tall building is awfully effective and takes few resources.  I was pretty surprised they didn't even think of that after getting a few zombies to die through that exact method.  Just dangle a speaker over the edge of a cliff, herd them toward it, and off they go.  I guess once the bodies stacked up it might start cushioning their fall, though.

It was weird finding out that Rick's ultimate solution was just "get them to go a few miles that way and hope they just kinda leave", after his big "I don't take chances anymore" speech. 


it does make you wonder why someone (or group) hasn't tried that approach yet.

as the saying goes "Build a better Dead trap and the world (of the Walking Dead) will beat a path to your door (and then really die in the trap)"

Seems like the Wolves are very good at that already, except they're more interested in capturing them as weapons than killing them. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 16, 2015, 01:07:50 PM
Burning isn't really practical especially with no flammable material around and fuel a precious commodity.  But getting them to walk off a cliff/tall building is awfully effective and takes few resources.  I was pretty surprised they didn't even think of that after getting a few zombies to die through that exact method.  Just dangle a speaker over the edge of a cliff, herd them toward it, and off they go.  I guess once the bodies stacked up it might start cushioning their fall, though.
Grand Canyon my friend.  let's see them fill it up
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 16, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
Burning isn't really practical especially with no flammable material around and fuel a precious commodity.  But getting them to walk off a cliff/tall building is awfully effective and takes few resources.  I was pretty surprised they didn't even think of that after getting a few zombies to die through that exact method.  Just dangle a speaker over the edge of a cliff, herd them toward it, and off they go.  I guess once the bodies stacked up it might start cushioning their fall, though.
Grand Canyon my friend.  let's see them fill it up

Haha, I think that's a bit too far of a hike from Virginia.  But I'm sure Z-Nation will get on it shortly.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 16, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
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The kids are annoying as heck.

I thought it was pretty obvious, they hired the daughter to be eye candy.

A good walker trap would be leading the walkers into a slaughter house into pens and dispatching them with a bolt gun.   Those pens hold cattle so they could hold walkers and bolt guns do not mess around.  With the bars there would be a high degree of safety.   This would only be practical with a certain size of horde.  The cliff would be better with one addition, sharpened stakes.   Walkers tend to get pinned on them.  So you go down and take them at leisure if they were pinned.   The best walker trap would be one that involved giving them a virus that would infect them and nuetralize the virus that animates them.  Problem solved, they would die because the virus only animates them once they are dead.   This would cure the living and end the show though.

They used this method in a series I read called "Extinction".  Except it didn't kill all of them, and made the ones that were immune to the virus even stronger.  They were a rapidly evolving sub-species though - not the degenerating walkers of TWD.  Speaking of degenerating, did you notice some of their head just kind of squishing open on their own against the barriers.  The walkers are getting soft!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 16, 2015, 02:21:52 PM
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The kids are annoying as heck.

I thought it was pretty obvious, they hired the daughter to be eye candy.

A good walker trap would be leading the walkers into a slaughter house into pens and dispatching them with a bolt gun.   Those pens hold cattle so they could hold walkers and bolt guns do not mess around.  With the bars there would be a high degree of safety.   This would only be practical with a certain size of horde.  The cliff would be better with one addition, sharpened stakes.   Walkers tend to get pinned on them.  So you go down and take them at leisure if they were pinned.   The best walker trap would be one that involved giving them a virus that would infect them and nuetralize the virus that animates them.  Problem solved, they would die because the virus only animates them once they are dead.   This would cure the living and end the show though.

They used this method in a series I read called "Extinction".  Except it didn't kill all of them, and made the ones that were immune to the virus even stronger.  They were a rapidly evolving sub-species though - not the degenerating walkers of TWD.  Speaking of degenerating, did you notice some of their head just kind of squishing open on their own against the barriers.  The walkers are getting soft!
I noticed that as well and thought maybe the idea of dropping them off a cliff would actually work.  I'm telling you, Grand Canyon fill-up is the series finale ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 16, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
Everyone is thinking what you would do in reality that would be the logical way, they don't reality they want more episodes and money!

I always scream at them for taking the dumb way to dispatch a zombie but after I do I think, my way ends the show, keep up the bs kills lol!

Why not pick off a few thousand zombies per day? Get a few shooters on those trucks every day and have them pick them off, someone has to know how to make bullets by now, they never seem to run out. Then set them on fire in case you miss hit a few. Any idea seems better than what Rick chose!

I think the abuser's kid blew the horn if not Reverend Lunatic!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 16, 2015, 05:37:42 PM
Everyone is thinking what you would do in reality that would be the logical way, they don't reality they want more episodes and money!

I always scream at them for taking the dumb way to dispatch a zombie but after I do I think, my way ends the show, keep up the bs kills lol!

Why not pick off a few thousand zombies per day? Get a few shooters on those trucks every day and have them pick them off, someone has to know how to make bullets by now, they never seem to run out. Then set them on fire in case you miss hit a few. Any idea seems better than what Rick chose!

I think the abuser's kid blew the horn if not Reverend Lunatic!

Daryl's bow supply and choice of times to use them has always been the cause for suspended reality belief for me.  You just need to set the plausibility aside and enjoy it when it pops up while keeping within a good story line.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 16, 2015, 11:44:51 PM
Tooth decay would pretty much spell the end of the walkers as a threat right? 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on October 17, 2015, 10:38:27 AM
You would think that in this TWD world, people would eventually kill all the walkers. Maybe a big trap is a bad idea because it will attract to many walkers and eventually it will break and then you a SOL. So aybe smaller traps. If you could make some sort of trap that would eventually kill 100 or so walkers and could have a bung of people making 1 a day and slowly moving it seems like you would eventually kill them all.

What percent of people do we figure are still alive in TWD? If there were a 100 people to start and 90 of them became walkers, it would only take 9 days to kill all the walkers if each person could kill 10 a day.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 17, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
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What percent of people do we figure are still alive in TWD? If there were a 100 people to start and 90 of them became walkers, it would only take 9 days to kill all the walkers if each person could kill 10 a day.

Most people lack that kind of courage, oh, everyone thinks they have it, but the truth is it is much rarer than you admit.  Not to mention, even those who have it often lack fighting skills that would ensure their survival.   This would work, Hemingway, but I doubt human nature would allow it to happen.  In the army, not all guys would fight, some would hide and cower it happens.  These are guys trained to do it too.  A lot of people would wait for someone else to do something.

Our best weapon would be our intellect, which they seem to have lacked.   It has always served us well against animals and lead to us with our tools becoming the apex predator.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 17, 2015, 01:55:38 PM
What percent of people do we figure are still alive in TWD? If there were a 100 people to start and 90 of them became walkers, it would only take 9 days to kill all the walkers if each person could kill 10 a day.

It's well over 99% dead I believe - the general idea seems to be that the living are outnumbered by hundreds or thousands to 1.  Plus the living tend to keep killing each other for resources.  But sure, you'd expect in a "real" zombie apocalypse that some people would try to sweep the surrounding areas to wipe out the walkers.  Not like it's hard to get them to come to you.  Morgan was doing something like this a couple seasons back when Rick found him.

...also check your math, under your scenario the walkers would be wiped out in less than one day.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 18, 2015, 09:40:33 PM
Man, some of these people are so off-base in this episode. And what's with Morgan's aversion to killing?! The guy just dismembered a body, yet Morgan still got ticked off when Carol took care of him?!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 18, 2015, 09:46:55 PM
Man, some of these people are so off-base in this episode. And what's with Morgan's aversion to killing?! The guy just dismembered a body, yet Morgan still got ticked off when Carol took care of him?!

Morgan scares me. His aversion to killing might put this group into trouble.

Edit: I knew it. Darn it, Morgan!!! I think he just killed everybody in Alexandria.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 25, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
OH my

The kill off of the old

Cast has begun.....

Hope somebody survives
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 25, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
Okay, I did not expect that.

I expected Glen to go down this season, but darn it, not like that. He went down because some dude lost his mind and he got dragged.

That's a very bad way to go out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2015, 10:04:40 PM
Uggghhhh, Morgan you arse! If he would've killed those guys, then they wouldn't have found Rick!

Not sure that Glenn's dead. That very well could've been the guy's body on top of him that they were tearing into. Also, I think they would've made a bigger deal of Glenn dying than that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 25, 2015, 10:07:33 PM
Uggghhhh, Morgan you arse! If he would've killed those guys, then they wouldn't have found Rick!

Not sure that Glenn's dead. That very well could've been the guy's body on top of him that they were tearing into. Also, I think they would've made a bigger deal of Glenn dying than that.

Well, sticking to storyline purposes. It could be Nicolas's insides being ripped out, but Glen was completely under that big herd. Assuming it's Nicolas who was consumed, at some point, they're going to reach to Glen.

And if somehow he gets out, certainly he won't go out there unscathed. I think Glen is a goner. I just didn't expect it was going to be like that, which made it shocking, and awesome (in the sense that the show keeps you on the loop) at the same time.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 25, 2015, 10:16:05 PM
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So, I also watch the Talking Dead after the show, and they didn't do a In Memoriam on Glen, fueling what could be a chance of survival. Wow, he could really still be alive. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 25, 2015, 10:32:01 PM
THIS IS A MASSIVE SPOILER. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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So, I also watch the Talking Dead after the show, and they didn't do a In Memoriam on Glen, fueling what could be a chance of survival. Wow, he could really still be alive. 
not over yet but I'm pretty sure he's toast and so, so crushed.  loved his character.  and I just knew that **** would be the death of Glenn at some point.  just sucks he went out that way.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 25, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
THIS IS A MASSIVE SPOILER. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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So, I also watch the Talking Dead after the show, and they didn't do a In Memoriam on Glen, fueling what could be a chance of survival. Wow, he could really still be alive. 
not over yet but I'm pretty sure he's toast and so, so crushed.  loved his character.  and I just knew that **** would be the death of Glenn at some point.  just sucks he went out that way.

Me too.

I think he's gone. They've foreshadowed it even in this episode with him showing Hershel's watch and stuff.

But the writers said "he will be back at some capacity (I'm paraphrasing)", so we'll see.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
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So, I also watch the Talking Dead after the show, and they didn't do a In Memoriam on Glen, fueling what could be a chance of survival. Wow, he could really still be alive. 
not over yet but I'm pretty sure he's toast and so, so crushed.  loved his character.  and I just knew that **** would be the death of Glenn at some point.  just sucks he went out that way.

Me too.

I think he's gone. They've foreshadowed it even in this episode with him showing Hershel's watch and stuff.

But the writers said "he will be back at some capacity (I'm paraphrasing)", so we'll see.
flashbacks perhaps.  the view doesn't show Nicholas on top of him and that's a pretty low level shot.  even if it's Nicholas being ripped apart, Glenn would have to get out from under him while surrounded by hundreds of the dead.  he's screaming too so I think the possibility of him playing possum under Nicholas is not happening.   can't imagine there'd be enough of him left to be a walker -- more likely a 'crawler' than a walker
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on October 26, 2015, 12:46:23 AM
OH my

The kill off of the old

Cast has begun.....

Hope somebody survives

A couple of years ago, one of the producers talked about "season 10" and "season 12."  Even if that was the plan, this makes me doubt it.  I like Eugene and Tara and company but we're now down to Rick, Carl, Daryl, Carol and Maggie.  Some might throw Michonne in there but as popular as she is, I don't think she's as emotionally central to the story, which is how these original characters survive the end of the world.  With Glen gone, we're really down to the nub.  I don't see how they could go another six years without losing connection with the audience.  I could see two or three, but six?

I mean, the Wolves or reestablishing the zombie threat could have completely sustained the first half of this season individually.  Burning through them both at the same time is bold.  It's like the anti-Farm.

It's also fascinating how after putting Rick in a questionable light in parts of season 5, they really seem to be back on his side.  If Glen and Michonne had just followed his orders...

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on October 26, 2015, 01:12:04 AM
But the writers said "he will be back at some capacity (I'm paraphrasing)", so we'll see.
flashbacks perhaps.  the view doesn't show Nicholas on top of him and that's a pretty low level shot.  even if it's Nicholas being ripped apart, Glenn would have to get out from under him while surrounded by hundreds of the dead.  he's screaming too so I think the possibility of him playing possum under Nicholas is not happening.   can't imagine there'd be enough of him left to be a walker -- more likely a 'crawler' than a walker
I have to agree.

That was a lot of zombies. Even if the other guy is on top, they will completely devour him and still be hungry. There won't be enough Nick left to cover Glen. And Glen's head and neck aren't covered. Walkers like necks.

Still, if he was being eaten at that moment, I don't see he continuing the yelling for that long. Considering the organs flailing around, I would have expected him to be spitting up blood at least. So it seems they were showing him being killed yet, but I can't accept that they won't eat him without some distraction pulling the zombies away. I'm not sure though what distraction could make zombies stop eating. That's their favorite thing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on October 26, 2015, 03:59:05 AM
I too am unsure if glen is dead yet. My first thought when we see Glen on the ground is that it is nicholas getting eaten on top of him because of the angle it looks this way. But Glen's face looks more like he is being eaten than screaming because of the horror or being underneath someone who is being eaten. If Glen were not being eaten, he would know enough to be really really quiet in hopes he could somehow slip away right? So I think he was eaten but its a bit weird with the camera angle.

Sucks to see Glen go but I'm glad they did it once they were on top of that dumpster. I was thinking there might be something to come along and save them but that would have been too much, there were just too many walkers. There have been a lot of people dying lately that are not main guys so I guess they needed someone to go. Maybe we will get to see Zombie Glen.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 26, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
if this is the last season , then I only expect to see maybe three survivors or so. The writers are determined to see that everybody dies.

The BAby will live , probably Carl and maybe one or two other characters  . ...make it to some boat to an island is my guess.  I've NOT read the comics .  Maybe Darrell makes it. ..I hope so.

I think Carol and Rick will die the last episode and probably , my guess Morgan dies second to last show .

They may kill off the entire cast but Carl and the baby.

I'm not sure why killing off,the old character s is so important .  It makes the show hard to,watch and not much fun . 
Killing off the last of the original cast doesn't do the series any favors.

I still am upset with them doing away with T Dog s character.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 26, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
But the writers said "he will be back at some capacity (I'm paraphrasing)", so we'll see.
flashbacks perhaps.  the view doesn't show Nicholas on top of him and that's a pretty low level shot.  even if it's Nicholas being ripped apart, Glenn would have to get out from under him while surrounded by hundreds of the dead.  he's screaming too so I think the possibility of him playing possum under Nicholas is not happening.   can't imagine there'd be enough of him left to be a walker -- more likely a 'crawler' than a walker
I have to agree.

That was a lot of zombies. Even if the other guy is on top, they will completely devour him and still be hungry. There won't be enough Nick left to cover Glen. And Glen's head and neck aren't covered. Walkers like necks.

Still, if he was being eaten at that moment, I don't see he continuing the yelling for that long. Considering the organs flailing around, I would have expected him to be spitting up blood at least. So it seems they were showing him being killed yet, but I can't accept that they won't eat him without some distraction pulling the zombies away. I'm not sure though what distraction could make zombies stop eating. That's their favorite thing.
this was the one thing I noticed that gives me a glimmer of hope that he somehow gets out of this but that seems like such a slim, slim possibility.  probably won't get any closure on it for a few episodes when we either see him alive in a few episodes or see zombie Glen (which would really suck).

I think the thing that bothers me the most about losing Glen is that he was the main character (along with Maggie) that still held  a bit of humanity.  Rick, Carol, Daryl, Michonne and even Carl don't have that any longer (not that I could blame them).  Similar disappointment to when Herschel was killed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: cons on October 26, 2015, 09:29:48 AM
any thoughts that this was somehow a nicholas hallucination? they kept showing him pause and stare into space for a few seconds while a high pitched sound was going on. I think it'd be pretty weak for this show to come out w some explanation like this, but they've never shown a character go through these little " spells" like they were showing nicholas go through. I was thinking they must be doing that for some reason.
 anyway, yeah i hope glenn is still alive but its hard to see how that's possible.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on October 26, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
The hallucination thing doesn't work unless both Glen and Nicholas are alive.  I think the deal is that they want to do a "Search for Glen" storyline that lasts several episodes and that really doesn't work unless the audience has some doubt that Glen is dead.

Clearly the start of this season is meant to counteract the way Rick and the group have been portrayed as omni-competent zombie killers.  As much as I hate Glen getting killed, if he can survive that situation then I'm not sure how seriously we can take ANY threat to a main character any longer.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on October 26, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
I was really upset that they killed Glenn. When watching the episode it seemed 100% clear that he was dead.

That they didn't have him on the talking dead to do a character wrap up like they (apparently) do when other main characters die gives me hope.

As far as how it would be possible for him to survive, I guess you could make an argument that getting all the blood and guts of the soon to be dead Nick would allow him to hide amongst the zombies.

Nick is pretty much the worst character ever, he had one redeeming moment but other than that every time he was on the show he was messing up in some way.

In retrospect the leaving the zombie herd in the canyon alone might have been the best move. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 26, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Certainly a dark & depressing episode.   

I think Glenn's dead.  I know we're talking a show with zombies so any "realism" has to be taken with a grain of salt but he & Nick got themselves into, literally, a dead end situation.  If Glenn somehow survives this, it takes something away from the show, IMO.  The whole aspect of fighting for survival and there isn't necessarily a light at the end of the tunnel for these people.  That's part of the premise of the show that I really like.  That there isn't going to really be a happy ending when all is said & done.

You really saw the flaws in everyone this past episode.  Think that was a good thing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 26, 2015, 11:54:58 AM
I'm not 100 percent sure Glen is dead yet.

 The film looked pretty convincing though.

There are new villains yet to debute ...ones in comics .....think his demise will come latter by the hand of one of these guys.    Even more epic than the dumpster sene.

Glen death has been put off for a while now .

I 'm not understanding how Rick is going to live ...didn't he not get bit in the hand .....that was confusing .....according to the rules of Zombee turning , this should trigger his demise ......unless

He chops his own hand/ arm  off ......but hasn't he ALREADY waited too LATE for that to work ?

I got a feeling the entire  cast...save the baby ... is gonna get totally butchered before the show ends.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on October 26, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
I figured it out. Glenn is alive.

While they eat the other idiot, glen will drag himself under the dumpster! The walkers won't be able to reach him there and then something will distract them to draw them away. Bam! Mystery solved.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on October 26, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
I'm not 100 percent sure Glen is dead yet.

 The film looked pretty convincing though.

There are new villains yet to debute ...ones in comics .....think his demise will come latter by the hand of one of these guys.    Even more epic than the dumpster sene.

Glen death has been put off for a while now .

I 'm not understanding how Rick is going to live ...didn't he not get bit in the hand .....that was confusing .....according to the rules of Zombee turning , this should trigger his demise ......unless

He chops his own hand/ arm  off ......but hasn't he ALREADY waited too LATE for that to work ?

I got a feeling the entire  cast...save the baby ... is gonna get totally butchered before the show ends.
I thought Rick stabbed one of the walkers and the knife broke so that it cut him.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 26, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
I'm not 100 percent sure Glen is dead yet.

 The film looked pretty convincing though.

There are new villains yet to debute ...ones in comics .....think his demise will come latter by the hand of one of these guys.    Even more epic than the dumpster sene.

Glen death has been put off for a while now .

I 'm not understanding how Rick is going to live ...didn't he not get bit in the hand .....that was confusing .....according to the rules of Zombee turning , this should trigger his demise ......unless

He chops his own hand/ arm  off ......but hasn't he ALREADY waited too LATE for that to work ?

I got a feeling the entire  cast...save the baby ... is gonna get totally butchered before the show ends.
I thought Rick stabbed one of the walkers and the knife broke so that it cut him.

Looks like the machete that was stuck in the walker sliced Rick when he went in to kill it. 

Brings up a couple of interesting questions; 

-Did Rick get zombie blood in him when he sliced himself on the machete?

-Is this going to lead down a path that is seen in the comics that Shaqattack is alluding to?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 26, 2015, 01:39:58 PM
I figured it out. Glenn is alive.

While they eat the other idiot, glen will drag himself under the dumpster! The walkers won't be able to reach him there and then something will distract them to draw them away. Bam! Mystery solved.
that's the only thing I could figure to buy him time but dumpsters are usually either on the ground or just have enough room underneath to fit wheels to roll on.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 26, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
I'm not 100 percent sure Glen is dead yet.

 The film looked pretty convincing though.

There are new villains yet to debute ...ones in comics .....think his demise will come latter by the hand of one of these guys.    Even more epic than the dumpster sene.

Glen death has been put off for a while now .

I 'm not understanding how Rick is going to live ...didn't he not get bit in the hand .....that was confusing .....according to the rules of Zombee turning , this should trigger his demise ......unless

He chops his own hand/ arm  off ......but hasn't he ALREADY waited too LATE for that to work ?

I got a feeling the entire  cast...save the baby ... is gonna get totally butchered before the show ends.
I thought Rick stabbed one of the walkers and the knife broke so that it cut him.

Looks like the machete that was stuck in the walker sliced Rick when he went in to kill it. 

Brings up a couple of interesting questions; 

-Did Rick get zombie blood in him when he sliced himself on the machete?

-Is this going to lead down a path that is seen in the comics that Shaqattack is alluding to?
I thought it was the blade in the walker too, not something that the walker itself did to cause Rick to bleed.  would think that's a distinction that would not cause him to turn
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on October 26, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
I figured it out. Glenn is alive.

While they eat the other idiot, glen will drag himself under the dumpster! The walkers won't be able to reach him there and then something will distract them to draw them away. Bam! Mystery solved.
that's the only thing I could figure to buy him time but dumpsters are usually either on the ground or just have enough room underneath to fit wheels to roll on.

Stylistically, they also made it way too ambiguous looking to not be trying to fool us.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 26, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
I'm not 100 percent sure Glen is dead yet.

 The film looked pretty convincing though.

There are new villains yet to debute ...ones in comics .....think his demise will come latter by the hand of one of these guys.    Even more epic than the dumpster sene.

Glen death has been put off for a while now .

I 'm not understanding how Rick is going to live ...didn't he not get bit in the hand .....that was confusing .....according to the rules of Zombee turning , this should trigger his demise ......unless

He chops his own hand/ arm  off ......but hasn't he ALREADY waited too LATE for that to work ?

I got a feeling the entire  cast...save the baby ... is gonna get totally butchered before the show ends.
I thought Rick stabbed one of the walkers and the knife broke so that it cut him.

Looks like the machete that was stuck in the walker sliced Rick when he went in to kill it. 

Brings up a couple of interesting questions; 

-Did Rick get zombie blood in him when he sliced himself on the machete?

-Is this going to lead down a path that is seen in the comics that Shaqattack is alluding to?

Realistically, the show almost has to work on the premise that it is spread only through saliva. Otherwise, all of the cast would already be zombified if it was transmittable through zombie blood, because they've all been drenched in zombie blood at one time or another, which is almost absurd to think that they wouldn't have contracted it with that much exposure.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 26, 2015, 10:45:58 PM
I would believe Glenn was dead if they didn't make the guy fall on top of him AND if he was on The Talking Dead after it saying how he enjoyed the run.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 26, 2015, 10:57:57 PM
I figured it out. Glenn is alive.

While they eat the other idiot, glen will drag himself under the dumpster! The walkers won't be able to reach him there and then something will distract them to draw them away. Bam! Mystery solved.
that's the only thing I could figure to buy him time but dumpsters are usually either on the ground or just have enough room underneath to fit wheels to roll on.

Stylistically, they also made it way too ambiguous looking to not be trying to fool us.
agreed - that's why I'm holding onto my slim hopes that he's somehow alive and not coming back as a walker that Maggie will be forced to kill later in the season.  she's already lost Herschel and Beth to really crappy circumstances.  just losing Glenn would be horrible enough but I can see the writers forcing her to kill Glenn if they make him a walker.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 26, 2015, 10:58:53 PM
I would believe Glenn was dead if they didn't make the guy fall on top of him AND if he was on The Talking Dead after it saying how he enjoyed the run.
yeah, they didn't show Nicholas on the ground.  But, at that point he's dead.  is he still a munchy for the walkers?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 27, 2015, 12:53:14 AM
Glenn's dead, holy cow.  Or at least it would be some terrible writing to save him from that situation.  The show's had some crazy stuff happen before, but flat on your back in a crowd of thousands of zombies pulling guts out of your general vicinity would be pretty far out there in this series. 

I'll bet he shows up as a zombie though, it's too good of an opportunity to pass up and they already foreshadowed Maggie preparing to kill a zombie she thought was him.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on October 27, 2015, 07:12:04 AM
I would believe Glenn was dead if they didn't make the guy fall on top of him AND if he was on The Talking Dead after it saying how he enjoyed the run.
yeah, they didn't show Nicholas on the ground.  But, at that point he's dead.  is he still a munchy for the walkers?

That reminded me of this: http://youtu.be/ru-uQQ7vsGo
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on October 27, 2015, 08:46:39 AM
Glenn's dead, holy cow.  Or at least it would be some terrible writing to save him from that situation.  The show's had some crazy stuff happen before, but flat on your back in a crowd of thousands of zombies pulling guts out of your general vicinity would be pretty far out there in this series. 

I'll bet he shows up as a zombie though, it's too good of an opportunity to pass up and they already foreshadowed Maggie preparing to kill a zombie she thought was him.

It really would have to be terrible writing to have Glenn live through this. As it is, the way Glenn died is dripping with irony. He could have, and maybe should have, killed Nicolas. But instead he let him live, and it got him killed. But that khan been the theme this season with the Alexandrian's. It's not safe to be around that many people who can't defend themselves.

And I absolutely hate they killed off Glenn. The true 'core' is now down to only Rick, Carl, Daryl, and Carol. Maggie and Michone are now, and have been for a while, core members, but neither is actually one of the original cast. But this show has demonstrated they will every so often give us truly gut wrenching tragedy. It comes with the territory for this type of show. But I think losing Glenn as a character was a mistake. The Glenn/Maggie story line served to keep up the hope there was something g left living for in the post-apocalyptic world. And it's a double whammy, because Glenn was easily ghe best 'person' of the main group.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 27, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
I don't know just ....guessing ...LOL.....

Maybe Glenn jumps up.....he is quick ya know

Gets in the dumpster...

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on October 27, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
I agree that it's bad writing if Glen lives, especially the way the scene was shot.  There's zero chance he would survive with that many walkers chewing on anything alive (or recently dead) in the vicinity.

That said...  I won't be disappointed if he's alive.  I can forgive a little deus ex machina now and then, especially with so few likable cast members.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 27, 2015, 10:22:19 AM
I agree that it's bad writing if Glen lives, especially the way the scene was shot.  There's zero chance he would survive with that many walkers chewing on anything alive (or recently dead) in the vicinity.

That said...  I won't be disappointed if he's alive.  I can forgive a little deus ex machina now and then, especially with so few likable cast members.

If he comes out unscathed, I'd be upset with the writing. I'm working on this assumption that Glenn is already dead this season, whether or not he survives this ordeal or not, he's a goner.

With the way they shot the whole thing, and with Daryl, Rick, Sasha and Abraham being on the other side, the only logical reason I could think of that could distract this horde is if a mystery character would eventually show up and do the distracting. Which would be both good, but at the same time, as a fellow poster mentioned, would be one of things that would make you say "I can't take threats to main characters seriously" from now.

Here's what I think would happen.

He gets out, but with bites. Knowing he's going down at any time, he'll find his way to Alexandria to see Maggie one last time, but he'll fail as the infection will kill him. As this is happening, the group will try to find him, and they eventually will, as a walker.

Maggie then breaks down. And she's going to have to put her down, because, she has to, right? But seeming as they already did this with Daryl and Merle, the writers would go a different path. Maggie would "attempt" to put Walker Glenn down, but instead she'll just let him eat her, as she has lost everything in her life. And someone will have to put Glenn down, and Maggie, bitten and mortally wounded, would have to be mercy killed as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 27, 2015, 10:28:37 AM
I agree that it's bad writing if Glen lives, especially the way the scene was shot.  There's zero chance he would survive with that many walkers chewing on anything alive (or recently dead) in the vicinity.

That said...  I won't be disappointed if he's alive.  I can forgive a little deus ex machina now and then, especially with so few likable cast members.

If he comes out unscathed, I'd be upset with the writing. I'm working on this assumption that Glenn is already dead this season, whether or not he survives this ordeal or not, he's a goner.

With the way they shot the whole thing, and with Daryl, Rick, Sasha and Abraham being on the other side, the only logical reason I could think of that could distract this horde is if a mystery character would eventually show up and do the distracting. Which would be both good, but at the same time, as a fellow poster mentioned, would be one of things that would make you say "I can't take threats to main characters seriously" from now.

Here's what I think would happen.

He gets out, but with bites. Knowing he's going down at any time, he'll find his way to Alexandria to see Maggie one last time, but he'll fail as the infection will kill him. As this is happening, the group will try to find him, and they eventually will, as a walker.

Maggie then breaks down. And she's going to have to put her down, because, she has to, right? But seeming as they already did this with Daryl and Merle, the writers would go a different path. Maggie would "attempt" to put Walker Glenn down, but instead she'll just let him eat her, as she has lost everything in her life. And someone will have to put Glenn down, and Maggie, bitten and mortally wounded, would have to be mercy killed as well.
certainly a possibility.  a crappy one, but a possibility none-the-less.  I was postulating above that having her have to kill Glenn after watching her father die in front of her and finding her sister freshly killed would be enough to make her snap if she had to also kill Glenn.  allowing herself to be bitten by Glenn seems a bit far for her to go but at that point, I'm sure she'd have to snap in some manner.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on October 27, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
I agree that it's bad writing if Glen lives, especially the way the scene was shot.  There's zero chance he would survive with that many walkers chewing on anything alive (or recently dead) in the vicinity.

That said...  I won't be disappointed if he's alive.  I can forgive a little deus ex machina now and then, especially with so few likable cast members.
Honestly, I care a lot more about getting to watch one of my favorite characters than whether I can take threats to main characters credible anymore.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on October 27, 2015, 11:12:26 AM
I agree that it's bad writing if Glen lives, especially the way the scene was shot.  There's zero chance he would survive with that many walkers chewing on anything alive (or recently dead) in the vicinity.

That said...  I won't be disappointed if he's alive.  I can forgive a little deus ex machina now and then, especially with so few likable cast members.
Honestly, I care a lot more about getting to watch one of my favorite characters than whether I can take threats to main characters credible anymore.

The way this show is designed, I'm actually the opposite when it comes to TWD.  I'm fine watching main characters get killed off here.  Keeps the suspense going and is a mix from traditional television.   It also shows the almost "hopelessness" facing these people.

Bringing Glenn back now after that would bring things down a few notches for me.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on October 27, 2015, 11:14:10 AM
The more I think about it, the more it bugs me. It's hard to really criticize the show because it's so good and I really have no objections to the writing or anything so far. But if Glen got out at this point it would seem a little silly and probably lessen the show. 2 things. first they really made a point of showing us that there was no way out and walkers everywhere. Secondly glan is in agony when the guys are getting ripped out. I just don't buy that he would look like that if it were nicks guts getting eaten and then also be able to snap out of it and suddenly jump into the dumpster or climb up the fire escape.

So it's weird both ways. If they wanted to have Glen live, why show it so final and definitive looking? But if they want him to be dead why use that angle and set it up where everyone will think less of the show for it? It seems like the have put themselves into a lose-lose position. The only thing I can think of is maybe Glen could get out only to get killed very soon thereafter.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 27, 2015, 11:29:33 AM
I agree that it's bad writing if Glen lives, especially the way the scene was shot.  There's zero chance he would survive with that many walkers chewing on anything alive (or recently dead) in the vicinity.

That said...  I won't be disappointed if he's alive.  I can forgive a little deus ex machina now and then, especially with so few likable cast members.
Honestly, I care a lot more about getting to watch one of my favorite characters than whether I can take threats to main characters credible anymore.

The way this show is designed, I'm actually the opposite when it comes to TWD.  I'm fine watching main characters get killed off here.  Keeps the suspense going and is a mix from traditional television.   It also shows the almost "hopelessness" facing these people.

Bringing Glenn back now after that would bring things down a few notches for me.

Yeah, the plot armor around main characters has been pretty crazy at times - Tyrese pretty much had zombie-killing superpowers before he got randomly snuck up on.  Having Glenn survive this would definitely take the cake though. 

I think the show people are being very coy about this because they want a big shock when zombie Glenn shows up a few episodes from now.  Kinda like when they looked for Carol's daughter (remember when Carol had a daughter?) for half a season before revealing she was a zombie in the barn all along. 

But I could be wrong - maybe they are gonna go full on crazy and have Glenn miraculously break free somehow.  Episode 3 is a little early to kill a main character.  But I thought it was a nice conclusion to the subplot of Glenn trusting an apocalypse loser (unlike Rick), plus his character just not having much to do lately.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on November 01, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
So, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of this episode, or at least this non-killing philosophy?

In addition to the guy's interpretation of "all life is precious" being a pretty narrow and arbitrary version of "life," what about walkers? How are evil people's lives "precious" and walkers' lives not? There's the problem of moral responsibility that evil people fail, e.g. the Wolves, that most walkers do not.

Also, if as the guy said you must respect your own life as precious, what happens when one of the Wolves attacks you and tries to kill you? Are you to "redirect" the person for eternity since you can't let yourself or him be killed due to your lives being precious?

Stupid...

EDIT: Like, at least Hershel's family at the barn didn't kill walkers. They were stupid for not doing so, but at least they were consistent and true to their philosophy/religion.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on November 01, 2015, 10:39:18 PM
So, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of this episode, or at least this non-killing philosophy?

In addition to the guy's interpretation of "all life is precious" being a pretty narrow and arbitrary version of "life," what about walkers? How are evil people's lives "precious" and walkers' lives not? There's the problem of moral responsibility that evil people fail, e.g. the Wolves, that most walkers do not.

Also, if as the guy said you must respect your own life as precious, what happens when one of the Wolves attacks you and tries to kill you? Are you to "redirect" the person for eternity since you can't let yourself or him be killed due to your lives being precious?

Stupid...

EDIT: Like, at least Hershel's family at the barn didn't kill walkers. They were stupid for not doing so, but at least they were consistent and true to their philosophy/religion.

We have to see where the show goes with it, but they've just spent five years and especially all of this season creating a world where this Eastman dude is a gigantic fool.  For pete's sake, Morgan letting the Wolves live was at least partly responsible for the attack first on Alexandria and then nearly killing Rick in the trailer.  Eastman is just like the Alexandrians, someone who has been sheltered from the reality around him.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 04, 2015, 09:06:59 AM
Just saw the new episode.  Do you guys think the goat is really dead or...??  There could've been another goat that fell on top of it and maybe Tabitha is ok.  I sure hope so anyway!  Have to wait and see.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on November 04, 2015, 09:47:45 AM
Just saw the new episode.  Do you guys think the goat is really dead or...??  There could've been another goat that fell on top of it and maybe Tabitha is ok.  I sure hope so anyway!  Have to wait and see.
Haha, tp!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 04, 2015, 09:54:00 AM
So, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of this episode, or at least this non-killing philosophy?

In addition to the guy's interpretation of "all life is precious" being a pretty narrow and arbitrary version of "life," what about walkers? How are evil people's lives "precious" and walkers' lives not? There's the problem of moral responsibility that evil people fail, e.g. the Wolves, that most walkers do not.

Also, if as the guy said you must respect your own life as precious, what happens when one of the Wolves attacks you and tries to kill you? Are you to "redirect" the person for eternity since you can't let yourself or him be killed due to your lives being precious?

Stupid...

EDIT: Like, at least Hershel's family at the barn didn't kill walkers. They were stupid for not doing so, but at least they were consistent and true to their philosophy/religion.



Walkers are the dead just re-animated, sure you can say that's living if you want but then people would starve to death because even veggies are living things. I don't see the problem there. If the walkers were just sick people I would think he would redirect.

Now the Wolves dude situation is going to end with Wolf being killed/give up on the non killing or you are killed eventually, something will have to give because crazy can't be fought forever.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on November 04, 2015, 10:29:13 AM
I think Eastman was a pretty good character. He wasn't like the people in Alexandria. He would go out and could fend for himself. All life is precious but the flip side seems to be you can't be too attached to your own life. Eastmen seemed at peace with death as he was going to turn himself in for killing the guy who killed his wife and kid- so he could have been killed for that or at least would have lost the quality to his life. He was ok taking in a guy who shot at him. It's nice that TWD shows all all sides of humanity, how different people react.

One thing I wondered about was how he had power. I guess he could have a generator as he built the house himself, but how much gas would you need to keep the lights on for a year? I've never had a generator. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on November 04, 2015, 10:31:51 AM
I think Eastman was a pretty good character. He wasn't like the people in Alexandria. He would go out and could fend for himself. All life is precious but the flip side seems to be you can't be too attached to your own life. Eastmen seemed at peace with death as he was going to turn himself in for killing the guy who killed his wife and kid- so he could have been killed for that or at least would have lost the quality to his life. He was ok taking in a guy who shot at him. It's nice that TWD shows all all sides of humanity, how different people react.

One thing I wondered about was how he had power. I guess he could have a generator as he built the house himself, but how much gas would you need to keep the lights on for a year? I've never had a generator.

Didn't they show solar panels on his roof when Morgan first came to the house?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on November 04, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
I started reading TWD comics. They are pretty good. A lot of things are different but it has a lot of similarities. Anyways, I'm up to the point where they go to alexandria now and Im wondering if I should keep going with the comics (go farther than the show). To the people who have done this in the past do you regret it? Should I wait and see things first on the show? Any opinions?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: cons on November 04, 2015, 12:00:39 PM
i've done it and dont regret it. the comics are awesome and i love the show just the same. It's like having kids. I love them all . haha.

really though, the only frustration I have is once you're caught up on the comics they come out like one every couple weeks. they take 5 mniutes to read so all of a sudden the story just drips in at a snails pace. thats tough to get used to.

i dont think you'll spoil the show for yourself by reading the comics, they've been different enough that its still interesting to see the show.
 also - you're on the verge of probably the best part of the whole comic - so yeah if you like it so far i'd say keep going bc the best is just ahead. :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Timdawgg on November 04, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Just saw the new episode.  Do you guys think the goat is really dead or...??  There could've been another goat that fell on top of it and maybe Tabitha is ok.  I sure hope so anyway!  Have to wait and see.

I am dying.....TP!!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 04, 2015, 02:56:00 PM
Just saw the new episode.  Do you guys think the goat is really dead or...??  There could've been another goat that fell on top of it and maybe Tabitha is ok.  I sure hope so anyway!  Have to wait and see.

I am dying.....TP!!!!
are you sure?  someone might just be on top on you that you can't see and you just THINK you're dying ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on November 04, 2015, 04:47:45 PM
I think Eastman was a pretty good character.

Here's the thing.  Eastman and his philosophy were very clearly the product of...

1.  Being alone in an area relatively free of the dead.  He's clearly never had to deal with more than two or three walkers at a time, nor had to concern himself with other human beings (until Morgan came along, that is).

2.  Having a roof over his head and plenty of food, water and other amenities.

What would Eastman have done if 10 people had showed up on his doorstep and he couldn't feed and house them all?  What would he do if he encountered a herd?  What if The Governor wanted his cabin?

I mean, the story of what happened to his wife and child, and then what he did to their killer, is messed up for our world.  In TWD world?  Where Andrea had to kill her sister, Carl had to kill his mom, Merle cut off his own hand and there was an entire community that was set up to lure in other people AND EAT THEM?

The whole episode, while well done, felt weirdly disconnected from everything else we've been watching.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 04, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
Moral of that story .....

Do not head for anywhere there was a huge populations of people ....cause now dey walkers  ..LOL

I heads full speed fo d coast ......load of machine guns , commendeer a boat and take over a small island in the Caribbean or Bahammas .....so those dumb Walkers would get eaten by sharks when dey try's and follow folks .
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: guava_wrench on November 04, 2015, 05:47:16 PM
Moral of that story .....

Do not head for anywhere there was a huge populations of people ....cause now dey walkers  ..LOL

I heads full speed fo d coast ......load of machine guns , commendeer a boat and take over a small island in the Caribbean or Bahammas .....so those dumb Walkers would get eaten by sharks when dey try's and follow folks .
Yeah, sounds good until... SHARKNADO!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 04, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
Just saw the new episode.  Do you guys think the goat is really dead or...??  There could've been another goat that fell on top of it and maybe Tabitha is ok.  I sure hope so anyway!  Have to wait and see.

Unfortunately you'll have to sit through next weeks three hour episode of the back story of how Daryl chose his hair style before getting any cliffhanger resolution.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 04, 2015, 06:25:11 PM
Just saw the new episode.  Do you guys think the goat is really dead or...??  There could've been another goat that fell on top of it and maybe Tabitha is ok.  I sure hope so anyway!  Have to wait and see.


That was Carol that fell on top of the goat . 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on November 04, 2015, 09:37:17 PM
If Glen is alive I wonder if the producers go "Kenny" route( Kenny from TWD game season 2 appearance), Carole, or Darrel type moment for Glen to show up to save the day later in the show. They said they wanted a Kenny season 1 from game death in show at some point. A Glen assumed death would be very similar to what they hinted too. Scenario in which no where to go and a idiot being eaten allows him to escape.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 05, 2015, 08:59:22 AM
If Glen is alive I wonder if the producers go "Kenny" route( Kenny from TWD game season 2 appearance), Carole, or Darrel type moment for Glen to show up to save the day later in the show. They said they wanted a Kenny season 1 from game death in show at some point. A Glen assumed death would be very similar to what they hinted too. Scenario in which no where to go and a idiot being eaten allows him to escape.
Ha, when you said Kenny I thought you were referring to Kenny from South Park. 

Oh My God, They killed Kenny. 
Those B@stards.

and then Kenny's back for the next show ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 05, 2015, 11:21:58 PM
If Glen is alive I wonder if the producers go "Kenny" route( Kenny from TWD game season 2 appearance), Carole, or Darrel type moment for Glen to show up to save the day later in the show. They said they wanted a Kenny season 1 from game death in show at some point. A Glen assumed death would be very similar to what they hinted too. Scenario in which no where to go and a idiot being eaten allows him to escape.
Ha, when you said Kenny I thought you were referring to Kenny from South Park. 

Oh My God, They killed Kenny. 
Those B@stards.

and then Kenny's back for the next show ;D

Me too  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on November 06, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
i've done it and dont regret it. the comics are awesome and i love the show just the same. It's like having kids. I love them all . haha.

really though, the only frustration I have is once you're caught up on the comics they come out like one every couple weeks. they take 5 mniutes to read so all of a sudden the story just drips in at a snails pace. thats tough to get used to.

i dont think you'll spoil the show for yourself by reading the comics, they've been different enough that its still interesting to see the show.
 also - you're on the verge of probably the best part of the whole comic - so yeah if you like it so far i'd say keep going bc the best is just ahead. :)

no spoilers please as i'm reading it now, but man you were right! The show is just going to get better and better too!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 22, 2015, 09:50:58 PM
SPOILER ALERT

kudos to those who knew that dumpster had room under it.  didn't think he'd fit. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 22, 2015, 10:05:31 PM
GOOD LAWD HAVE MERCY!

It's not a matter of if someone is going to die now, it's who.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 22, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
I think Carl may lose his eye soon like in the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 22, 2015, 11:14:48 PM
I think Carl may lose his eye soon like in the comics.
ah dude, should have mentioned that as a spoiler.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 23, 2015, 12:23:38 AM
SPOILER ALERT

kudos to those who knew that dumpster had room under it.  didn't think he'd fit.

I agree.....That's was a bit of stretch.   I never seen a dumpster that anything larger than a cat could crawl under.   Most sit totally flat and are lifted from the sides ......

Glens escape was totally hokie ......even my wife looks at me and says dumpsters don't sit that high.....lol

When somebody mentioned he might have done that.......there is just no way ......but they Hollywooded it up......LOL


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 23, 2015, 02:48:56 AM
Some dumpsters do sit high but I have never been under one.


It was obvious he wasn't dead from the way dude fell on him. Too easy.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 23, 2015, 06:20:12 AM
Quote
ah dude, should have mentioned that as a spoiler.

My bad, sorry, maybe it never happens.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 23, 2015, 07:15:49 AM
SPOILER ALERT

kudos to those who knew that dumpster had room under it.  didn't think he'd fit.

I agree.....That's was a bit of stretch.   I never seen a dumpster that anything larger than a cat could crawl under.   Most sit totally flat and are lifted from the sides ......

Glens escape was totally hokie ......even my wife looks at me and says dumpsters don't sit that high.....lol

When somebody mentioned he might have done that.......there is just no way ......but they Hollywooded it up......LOL

More amazing was his ability to seamlessly transfer from that crazy traumatic scene to a night under a dumpster to world's most patient mentor.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on November 23, 2015, 09:35:43 AM
Ah, as happy as I am to see Glenn survive, this was a low point for the show...that is some horrible writing.

Looks like Carl better watch his back.  That kid was ready to gun him down.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 23, 2015, 09:48:49 AM
Ah, as happy as I am to see Glenn survive, this was a low point for the show...that is some horrible writing.

Looks like Carl better watch his back.  That kid was ready to gun him down.

The woman ,  Ricks new girlfriend married a nut case.   Her children seem to be their fathers mindset ......more nuts .

I think that kid tricked Rick and Carl into teaching him how to murder them.  He seeks revenge for his looney  father. 

Morgan is nuts keeping the wolf guy alive ....that won't turn out well....for somebody

Glens survival was bogus .......the little girl is another nut job.

If I was Darryl , I d would not return to that hell hole.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on November 23, 2015, 10:57:22 AM
couldn't they figure out some way to kill walkers quietly from inside the wall? Like a knife on a long stick or a cement block tied to a rope?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 23, 2015, 12:15:38 PM
couldn't they figure out some way to kill walkers quietly from inside the wall? Like a knife on a long stick or a cement block tied to a rope?
now, now, not's start applying sound reasoning to this.  you'll spoil it for everyone ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 23, 2015, 12:23:14 PM
couldn't they figure out some way to kill walkers quietly from inside the wall? Like a knife on a long stick or a cement block tied to a rope?
now, now, not's start applying sound reasoning to this.  you'll spoil it for everyone ;)

Yup......that's right just stand up there for hours on end .....shifts taking poles with pointed steel,tipsy spoke em in the head ,,till they are,all dead.......put a blade from the coal mine on the truck,and push the dead zombies away . Slowly but surely you d get them down to a manageable amount.  Go.outside and clean  the rest..

Being a show ...requires they eliminate them ALL,IN A SHORT PERIOD.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 23, 2015, 05:59:47 PM
couldn't they figure out some way to kill walkers quietly from inside the wall? Like a knife on a long stick or a cement block tied to a rope?
now, now, not's start applying sound reasoning to this.  you'll spoil it for everyone ;)

Yup......that's right just stand up there for hours on end .....shifts taking poles with pointed steel,tipsy spoke em in the head ,,till they are,all dead.......put a blade from the coal mine on the truck,and push the dead zombies away . Slowly but surely you d get them down to a manageable amount.  Go.outside and clean  the rest..

Being a show ...requires they eliminate them ALL,IN A SHORT PERIOD.

How about a good old fashioned blow dart?  How big does the brain rupture need to be?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 23, 2015, 06:32:33 PM
couldn't they figure out some way to kill walkers quietly from inside the wall? Like a knife on a long stick or a cement block tied to a rope?
now, now, not's start applying sound reasoning to this.  you'll spoil it for everyone ;)

Yup......that's right just stand up there for hours on end .....shifts taking poles with pointed steel,tipsy spoke em in the head ,,till they are,all dead.......put a blade from the coal mine on the truck,and push the dead zombies away . Slowly but surely you d get them down to a manageable amount.  Go.outside and clean  the rest..

Being a show ...requires they eliminate them ALL,IN A SHORT PERIOD.

How about a good old fashioned blow dart?  How big does the brain rupture need to be?

I d be putting together better weapons of mass destruction ....... Fix up a few Abrams Tanks .....just squish them .

Hand grenades and flamethrower .........I d be headed to the nearest Armory

Bulldozer them.....of the edge of a cliff into the ocean , let the fishes eat them.

This slow .....picking at the probelm is painful to watch.

 A few tanks driving up and down the highways clearing  the cars and squishing zombies
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 23, 2015, 06:34:31 PM
couldn't they figure out some way to kill walkers quietly from inside the wall? Like a knife on a long stick or a cement block tied to a rope?

Yeah, I was thinking of this myself about three episodes ago. They could easily fashion a spear long enough to poke some, if not most of them on alternating shifts, quiet enough to not alert the rest of the horde.

I did however see Talking Dead, and on the Inside the Dead segment, it was explained that storyline wise, the horde coming to the walls and the walls crumbling down happened in just one day. Then again, one day should be enough to thin the horde a bit by spearing some of them.

But yeah. Logic doesn't work in entertainment sometime, no?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 23, 2015, 06:35:33 PM
SPOILER ALERT

kudos to those who knew that dumpster had room under it.  didn't think he'd fit.

I agree.....That's was a bit of stretch.   I never seen a dumpster that anything larger than a cat could crawl under.   Most sit totally flat and are lifted from the sides ......

Glens escape was totally hokie ......even my wife looks at me and says dumpsters don't sit that high.....lol

When somebody mentioned he might have done that.......there is just no way ......but they Hollywooded it up......LOL

More amazing was his ability to seamlessly transfer from that crazy traumatic scene to a night under a dumpster to world's most patient mentor.

Don't think it was only one night b/c all of the living walkers had time to wander off and Glenn was on that water like he hadn't had a drink in a very long time. I think the time was moving along like the other s/l.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2015, 11:58:03 PM
Pretty lackluster mid-season finale if you ask me.

Morgan has officially reached Andrea's level of disdain on the show, at least for a character that is supposedly on our side. The Governor is in his own level of disdain, rivaled only by Joffrey Baratheon. But Morgan is quickly approaching that status with this ridiculous, stupid philosophy of not-killing, especially as full of holes as it is. I've  disliked him ever since the "Clear" episode way back a couple of seasons ago.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on November 30, 2015, 12:20:11 AM
The show these last few episodes had the same problem Kirkman has in the comics.  He likes to have these huge casts of characters but does an awful job of managing them.  Where was Spenser and that guy who was helping Rick reinforce the wall?  What about Aaron?

Glenn surviving was nonsense but I'm happy enough to keep the character around that I'll give 'em a pass.

I actually think they're setting up Morgan to be a real threat to Rick, but as sort of a reverse Shane who feels Rick is too brutal to lead anyone.

And I actually enjoyed this mid-season finale because it wasn't the same thing we've seen before.  Ever since the fall of the prison, I think the show has really strived to not just repeat the same pattern over and over again.  Find a safe space.  Things look good.  Things go bad.  Escape.  Find a safe space and repeat.  While the prison was just a bigger version of the farm, Alexandria has been a different challenge and experience.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on November 30, 2015, 12:31:47 AM
The show these last few episodes had the same problem Kirkman has in the comics.  He likes to have these huge casts of characters but does an awful job of managing them.  Where was Spenser and that guy who was helping Rick reinforce the wall?  What about Aaron?

Glenn surviving was nonsense but I'm happy enough to keep the character around that I'll give 'em a pass.

I actually think they're setting up Morgan to be a real threat to Rick, but as sort of a reverse Shane who feels Rick is too brutal to lead anyone.

And I actually enjoyed this mid-season finale because it wasn't the same thing we've seen before.  Ever since the fall of the prison, I think the show has really strived to not just repeat the same pattern over and over again.  Find a safe space.  Things look good.  Things go bad.  Escape.  Find a safe space and repeat.  While the prison was just a bigger version of the farm, Alexandria has been a different challenge and experience.

Mike
The Alexandria storyline has been well done I think. But I absolutely hated the Terminus storyline, because there was a half season of build up to only have like one full episode on/in Terminus itself. I thought there was a ton of potential with that storyline that they wasted with the long build up and lackluster delivery of Terminus itself.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on November 30, 2015, 01:02:44 AM
mom...mom...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on December 03, 2015, 09:23:39 AM
mom...mom...
I had a feeling that kid was going to have a meltdown.  should have just cut him loose before they left that house.  for that matter, jettison her other jerk kid too-->expecting him to make a move to screw Carl on the way out.

Other thoughts -- anyone thinking Glenn seeing Maggie in trouble will drive him to sacrifice himself to save her?  Hate to see him go since I think he's the one character who's retained some humanity but would sort of justify his questionable escape under the dumpster.

Morgan needs to go.  If Carol doesn't off that stupid Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again., someone else needs to.  no doubt the wolf is going to off Denise by using her as food for walkers all thanks to Morgan.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on December 05, 2015, 10:22:57 AM
mom...mom...
I had a feeling that kid was going to have a meltdown.  should have just cut him loose before they left that house.  for that matter, jettison her other jerk kid too-->expecting him to make a move to screw Carl on the way out.

Other thoughts -- anyone thinking Glenn seeing Maggie in trouble will drive him to sacrifice himself to save her?  Hate to see him go since I think he's the one character who's retained some humanity but would sort of justify his questionable escape under the dumpster.

Morgan needs to go.  If Carol doesn't off that stupid ****, someone else needs to.  no doubt the wolf is going to off Denise by using her as food for walkers all thanks to Morgan.

Someone's gotta get that whiny little brat some decent vinyl anyhow.   ;D

Carol being willing to kill or did for her principles was pretty powerful. 

Why is the walker guys camouflage used only situationaly?  Is it just too gross to be utilized routinely.  Seems effective enough with those who can keep their cake hole shut.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 05, 2015, 11:32:48 AM
mom...mom...
I had a feeling that kid was going to have a meltdown.  should have just cut him loose before they left that house.  for that matter, jettison her other jerk kid too-->expecting him to make a move to screw Carl on the way out.

Other thoughts -- anyone thinking Glenn seeing Maggie in trouble will drive him to sacrifice himself to save her?  Hate to see him go since I think he's the one character who's retained some humanity but would sort of justify his questionable escape under the dumpster.

Morgan needs to go.  If Carol doesn't off that stupid ****, someone else needs to.  no doubt the wolf is going to off Denise by using her as food for walkers all thanks to Morgan.

Someone's gotta get that whiny little brat some decent vinyl anyhow.   ;D

Carol being willing to kill or did for her principles was pretty powerful. 

Why is the walker guys camouflage used only situationaly?  Is it just too gross to be utilized routinely.  Seems effective enough with those who can keep their cake hole shut.

Kirkman explained this in Talking Dead.

Firstly, it wears off. It doesn't last that much. Second, it's not advisable to keep doing it as wearing it means the wearer can smell the stench, and the rotting parts can be harmful to someone's health. I'm paraphrasing of course, but that's the explanation.

Also, I agree. That kid has to get the Lizzie "look at the flowers" treatment. He's going to put everyone in danger. Now it sounds harsh, but really, in that world, is it?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: boscel33 on February 14, 2016, 12:05:51 PM
Happy Valentines Day and, oh heck yeah, The Walking Dead returns tonight!  I think we're in for a major character death.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 14, 2016, 12:07:56 PM
Happy Valentines Day and, oh heck yeah, The Walking Dead returns tonight!  I think we're in for a major character death.

Apparently some kind of major spoiler was leaked by accident.  I haven't seen it and don't know what it is but the implication I got from people who did is that you are right on.

After the mess of most of last season I hope it's Glenn, even though I like his character.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Kuberski33 on February 14, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
In the comic apparently this new bad guy leader does in a major character at some point - and in an especially gruesome way.  Wonder if it will be tonight?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on February 14, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
Oh snap! Talk about an entry to the rest of the season!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 14, 2016, 09:13:45 PM
Are they going to do what I think they're going to do?

I'm already having goosebumps... Jesus, make it stop!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: crownontherocks on February 14, 2016, 09:27:17 PM
I have a feeling i know whats coming



I knewwww that was coming
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on February 14, 2016, 09:29:28 PM
Welp, that just happened. All because of that stupid kid...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: crownontherocks on February 14, 2016, 09:30:40 PM
I had a feeling that was going to happen to him
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 14, 2016, 09:31:30 PM
I have a feeling i know whats coming



I knewwww that was coming

Me too. I thought they were going to save it till the end though, so something is still yet to happen.

Ah... Kids and the zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on February 14, 2016, 09:52:56 PM
What an insane episode. This episode rivals the excellent Battle of Hardhome episode this past season on Game of Thrones, though that one is still a bit better I think.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 14, 2016, 09:53:04 PM
I guess it's safe to assume that Glenn will never die.

He just won't.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 15, 2016, 09:23:11 PM
just caught the episode.  wow

- knew that whiny kid would end up getting killed
- knew that other dink son would turn on them.  thought it would be Karl but Karl just paid the price for it.
- knew Glenn would sacrifice himself for Maggie.  love the character but man he's got nine lives that have all got to be used up now.
- unbelievable mass zombie massacre.  really makes me wonder why they didn't think of that bonfire back in the pit where the zombies were trapped
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Al91 on February 15, 2016, 09:41:13 PM
It's weirdly ironic that this season has revolved around leading the walkers away from a pit assuming that one day they'd find a way out and mow down Alexandria, yet by trying to circumvent that Rick and Co. allowed just that to happen...and then the resolution was leading them to another "pit" in the middle of town.

I'm not critical of the show though, I love it to death ( ::)). I agree with a poster above thinking along the lines that Glenn has made it through his nine lives. Lol, thought he was finally a goner. Hated seeing Jessie go but honestly, could we have dealt with her grief and angst after seeing her youngest get gobbled up? And Denise turned into a character I can actually enjoy, can somewhat say the same for Father Gabriel now.

Overall, loved it.

Thoughts on next one though (I apologize if someone has said this earlier but thinking about sifting through page after page felt daunting)...will we see a jump 6 months-ish into the future? I think this is important for several reasons:

1) Anything to explain/rush Carl's healing and hide his growth spurt would be helpful.
2) Easy way to get out of showing characters in the background cleaning up walkers for days.
3) Would give our characters a chance to shower. Lol
4) Would keep Negan contemplating the loss of several men for months, possibly making him more menacing when he makes his debut.
5) Would allow us to see a beefed up version of Alexandria. Walls extended further out, crops, basically prison 3.0 but hopefully they don't abandon this place, even as they face the Saviors and Negan.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Al91 on February 15, 2016, 09:42:48 PM
Are they going to do what I think they're going to do?

I'm already having goosebumps... Jesus, make it stop!!!

This could potentially be an incredibly sly twd pun...or just coincidence. TP regardless.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2016, 01:31:14 PM
Rick and Michonne getting busy.  about time.  wondering if this will play out as a new couple or just a hot moment.  talk about a post-zombie apocalypse power couple ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on February 25, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
Rick and Michonne getting busy.  about time.  wondering if this will play out as a new couple or just a hot moment.  talk about a post-zombie apocalypse power couple ;)

It does seem like this was brewing under the surface for a while.

That con-man dude is interesting. Can't wait to see where this leads.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 26, 2016, 10:11:41 AM
Rick and Michonne getting busy.  about time.  wondering if this will play out as a new couple or just a hot moment.  talk about a post-zombie apocalypse power couple ;)

It does seem like this was brewing under the surface for a while.

That con-man dude is interesting. Can't wait to see where this leads.
he does seem to have some unusual abilities.  hoping this storyline ends as well as it's starting out
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on February 28, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
Rick's crew are now paid mercenaries.

Well then...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 28, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Rick's crew are now paid mercenaries.

Well then...
better known as "skilled labor"  ;)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 28, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
Rick's crew are now paid mercenaries.

Well then...

Desperate times calls for desperate measures, I guess.

I mean, they did have nothing else to offer but that. With Alexandria starving, it's either kill the guys at Hilltop or do the mercenary work.

The things they need to do for crops and cows.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on February 28, 2016, 11:47:50 PM
The show is deviating quite a bit from the comic now isn't it?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2016, 09:47:13 PM
This is a pretty freaking dark episode...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 08, 2016, 10:33:17 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 08, 2016, 10:46:44 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 08, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on March 08, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
The Saviors in the building with the satellites have to be the heaviest sleepers ever. Glenn took so long to kill them once he was in the room.

Thought the episode was good. I get tired of the characters getting into trouble because they are too trusting of random people. This was the opposite direction, but unfortunately it's what they need to survive in the walking dead universe.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 08, 2016, 11:09:55 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 08, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?

Just don't kill Daryl & I'll be happy.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 08, 2016, 11:25:16 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?

Just don't kill Daryl & I'll be happy.

It wouldn't shock me.  [Guy who died in the comic] was arguably the most well-liked character in the comic at the time of his death.  Darryl might make sense to fill that role, especially since he's sort of taken a backseat this season.

I'm predicting Carol, though.  All that stuff about her being the "mother" of the group would be a huge emotional blow to Alexandria.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 08, 2016, 11:33:07 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?

Just don't kill Daryl & I'll be happy.

It wouldn't shock me.  [Guy who died in the comic] was arguably the most well-liked character in the comic at the time of his death.  Darryl might make sense to fill that role, especially since he's sort of taken a backseat this season.

I'm predicting Carol, though.  All that stuff about her being the "mother" of the group would be a huge emotional blow to Alexandria.

Yeah, nothing would shock me.  I'd just be peeved if it was Daryl.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 08, 2016, 11:47:56 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?

Just don't kill Daryl & I'll be happy.

It wouldn't shock me.  [Guy who died in the comic] was arguably the most well-liked character in the comic at the time of his death.  Darryl might make sense to fill that role, especially since he's sort of taken a backseat this season.

I'm predicting Carol, though.  All that stuff about her being the "mother" of the group would be a huge emotional blow to Alexandria.

Yeah, nothing would shock me.  I'd just be peeved if it was Daryl.
the whole 'mother' thing was why I included Carol in with that killing-off thought.  just as someone's built up to be a wonderful part of the community -- they're killed off. 

Can't see it being Daryl.  the uproar over Glenn possibly being dead would be nothing compared to the hysteria that would be created by offing Daryl.   Can't see him, Rick or Michonne biting the dust anytime in the near (or not so near) future.  The 3 toughest customers in the cast -- just hard to see how they kill one of those off and explain the survival of anyone else (well, maybe Rick saving Karl but that's about it).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 08, 2016, 11:49:49 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?

Just don't kill Daryl & I'll be happy.

It wouldn't shock me.  [Guy who died in the comic] was arguably the most well-liked character in the comic at the time of his death.  Darryl might make sense to fill that role, especially since he's sort of taken a backseat this season.

I'm predicting Carol, though.  All that stuff about her being the "mother" of the group would be a huge emotional blow to Alexandria.

Yeah, nothing would shock me.  I'd just be peeved if it was Daryl.
the whole 'mother' thing was why I included Carol in with that killing-off thought.  just as someone's built up to be a wonderful part of the community -- they're killed off. 

Can't see it being Daryl.  the uproar over Glenn possibly being dead would be nothing compared to the hysteria that would be created by offing Daryl.   Can't see him, Rick or Michonne biting the dust anytime in the near (or not so near) future.  The 3 toughest customers in the cast -- just hard to see how they kill one of those off and explain the survival of anyone else (well, maybe Rick saving Karl but that's about it).

I could see Michonne.  The Rick "kiss of death".  Every woman he gets involved with ends up dying.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on March 08, 2016, 11:52:13 AM
just had to know that nothing good was going to come from Maggie insisting on going along and Carol insisting she stay with Maggie. 

figuring this will lead to one of Maggie, Carol or Glenn getting killed off before the end of this season.

What are the chances it will be Carol, and that would trigger Morgan to decide to kill again? Maybe? Maybe not?

I just don't see Glenn dying. I think he survived long enough, and too many close calls to die.

After they treated Glenn's first "death", it'd be pretty dumb to come back a half season later and do it for real.   

Someone's definitely getting killed, though.  This is where I think they'll stray from the comic book again;  same method but different character (without delving into who).
Not that I want any of those 3 to be killed but since they seem to the be the focus of this episode, I'm leaning towards thinking it's likely one of those 3 that bite it.  Could be that kid that's becoming Glenn's protege (name escapes me right now). 

agree on the heavy sleeper bit.  how does someone not wake up with light in the face from the door opening much less someone hovering over them that's not exactly being silent?

Just don't kill Daryl & I'll be happy.

It wouldn't shock me.  [Guy who died in the comic] was arguably the most well-liked character in the comic at the time of his death.  Darryl might make sense to fill that role, especially since he's sort of taken a backseat this season.

I'm predicting Carol, though.  All that stuff about her being the "mother" of the group would be a huge emotional blow to Alexandria.

Yeah, nothing would shock me.  I'd just be peeved if it was Daryl.
the whole 'mother' thing was why I included Carol in with that killing-off thought.  just as someone's built up to be a wonderful part of the community -- they're killed off. 

Can't see it being Daryl.  the uproar over Glenn possibly being dead would be nothing compared to the hysteria that would be created by offing Daryl.   Can't see him, Rick or Michonne biting the dust anytime in the near (or not so near) future.  The 3 toughest customers in the cast -- just hard to see how they kill one of those off and explain the survival of anyone else (well, maybe Rick saving Karl but that's about it).

I could see Michonne.  The Rick "kiss of death".  Every woman he gets involved with ends up dying.

Yeah, the only two I can't see dying are Rick and Carl. Carl sucks, but Kirkman loves his character.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on March 10, 2016, 06:33:38 PM
I find it very interesting the show has decided to really play up the romance angle lately.  I mean, sure, it makes sense that it would seem natural for romances to brew when you're (somewhat) safe behind walls and are establishing a community.  But I also think it means there are going to be some 'emotional' deaths to at least one or two major characters coming soon.

Carol's time might be up.  But Maggie dying would be even more traumatic.  Although, knowing how the show loves to throw curveballs, it'll probably be someone else.

Rick, Carl, Daryl, Michonne, and Glenn all seem 'teflon', there is no near death situation they can't seem to survive.

Also, I loved that line from the 'house on the hill' guy, Rick is one badass dude, even if he is stupid, and has all his plans end up in ruins.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 10, 2016, 07:18:05 PM
I find it very interesting the show has decided to really play up the romance angle lately.  I mean, sure, it makes sense that it would seem natural for romances to brew when you're (somewhat) safe behind walls and are establishing a community.  But I also think it means there are going to be some 'emotional' deaths to at least one or two major characters coming soon.

Carol's time might be up.  But Maggie dying would be even more traumatic.  Although, knowing how the show loves to throw curveballs, it'll probably be someone else.

Rick, Carl, Daryl, Michonne, and Glenn all seem 'teflon', there is no near death situation they can't seem to survive.

Also, I loved that line from the 'house on the hill' guy, Rick is one badass dude, even if he is stupid, and has all his plans end up in ruins.

I'm down with Maggie biting it, but only if we get to see the elusive zombaby. 

I liked their little nod to sitcom with Eugene's untimely cookie praise.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 13, 2016, 09:52:43 PM
I'm calling it right now: Maggie dies in childbirth, similar to how she had to basically kill Lori to save the baby.

By the way, what's with all of the flip-flops this season? Morgan first, and now Carol went from Charlie Manson crazy to poor little housewife afraid of killing again.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 13, 2016, 10:59:35 PM
Great fight scene .......women were intense .

Luv this episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on March 14, 2016, 04:06:43 AM
yeah great episode. I kind of wish that I never read the comic because I always think I know what will happen now. But good for the show to keep the same basic storyline but make enough changes that it's not all the same.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 14, 2016, 08:04:38 PM
The parallel lined bonding with the captors was getting a little tiresome, but the payoff was great.  Key line "you think you're the good guys, but you're not."  The main group has definitely crossed the line of morality to do what they need to thrive now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 15, 2016, 08:30:24 AM
I find it very interesting the show has decided to really play up the romance angle lately.  I mean, sure, it makes sense that it would seem natural for romances to brew when you're (somewhat) safe behind walls and are establishing a community.  But I also think it means there are going to be some 'emotional' deaths to at least one or two major characters coming soon.

Carol's time might be up.  But Maggie dying would be even more traumatic.  Although, knowing how the show loves to throw curveballs, it'll probably be someone else.

Rick, Carl, Daryl, Michonne, and Glenn all seem 'teflon', there is no near death situation they can't seem to survive.

Also, I loved that line from the 'house on the hill' guy, Rick is one badass dude, even if he is stupid, and has all his plans end up in ruins.

I'm down with Maggie biting it, but only if we get to see the elusive zombaby. 

I liked their little nod to sitcom with Eugene's untimely cookie praise.
I'd prefer they keep Maggie around -- I like her character with Glenn. 

zombaby would be interesting -- stillborn that comes out a zombie would make for one helluva surprise.  maybe dies during childbirth itself to explain why it didn't kill Maggie from the inside.
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 15, 2016, 09:20:28 AM
If you want to see zombie babies, check out Dawn of the Dead. Great one there.

This show is getting dark and it definitely is going in the direction of getting darker once Negan rears his head.  Lot of suspense right now. Basically you know someone or someones are going to die but we just don't know who or when.  It's like a dark cloud hanging over things right now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 21, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
kind of bummed about Denise being given a death wish that last episode.  was hoping she'd stick around a bit.  just from the start of the episode you had to know she wouldn't be there at the end.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 21, 2016, 11:18:32 PM
If you want to see zombie babies, check out Dawn of the Dead. Great one there.

This show is getting dark and it definitely is going in the direction of getting darker once Negan rears his head.  Lot of suspense right now. Basically you know someone or someones are going to die but we just don't know who or when.  It's like a dark cloud hanging over things right now.

I thought we were gonna see one when Denise ent snooping around in the pharmacy and find a crib.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 27, 2016, 10:40:31 PM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Also, is Daryl a goner now? Darn it. Does this group haven't realized it till now that leaving on your own would end up dragging a few people with you, and in turn, putting everyone in danger?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 27, 2016, 10:45:36 PM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Bring it! 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 28, 2016, 08:57:10 PM
after Game of Thrones "Red Wedding"..killing off major characters does not mean decline in viewers

and because Glen death has been talked about for awhile now and will probably happen..

it is for sure gonna be another shocker...I think Rick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on March 28, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
P.S

*sippin*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 29, 2016, 10:31:46 AM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Also, is Daryl a goner now? Darn it. Does this group haven't realized it till now that leaving on your own would end up dragging a few people with you, and in turn, putting everyone in danger?
wouldn't be surprised now to see Maggie killed by a dead stillborn eating her from inside after that fight with the Saviors.  definitely puts a bigger risk in getting knocked up in the zombie apocolypse.

the whole splitting up thing with Daryl was foolish and someone's going to bite it for sure.  can't see everyone getting out of it alive.  idiots.

wondering if they'll even address the Carol storyline in the season finale or leave that as a cliffhanger for next year.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 29, 2016, 10:37:18 AM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Also, is Daryl a goner now? Darn it. Does this group haven't realized it till now that leaving on your own would end up dragging a few people with you, and in turn, putting everyone in danger?
wouldn't be surprised now to see Maggie killed by a dead stillborn eating her from inside after that fight with the Saviors.  definitely puts a bigger risk in getting knocked up in the zombie apocolypse.

the whole splitting up thing with Daryl was foolish and someone's going to bite it for sure.  can't see everyone getting out of it alive.  idiots.

wondering if they'll even address the Carol storyline in the season finale or leave that as a cliffhanger for next year.

Well, I guess the one upside if Daryl isn't, in fact, dead is that you can pretty much eliminate him as the one who's going to get killed by Neegan in the finale.    Show wouldn't be dumb enough to pretend to kill him in one episode then actually kill him in the very next episode, would they?

Given the nature of how that scene ended on Sunday night and its similarity to what happened with Glenn earlier in the season with the dumpster incident, I have to think Daryl's going to be alright.

Also, there's just a bit of wishful thinking on my part that Daryl isn't dead because he's arguably the best character on the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 29, 2016, 10:47:44 AM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Also, is Daryl a goner now? Darn it. Does this group haven't realized it till now that leaving on your own would end up dragging a few people with you, and in turn, putting everyone in danger?
wouldn't be surprised now to see Maggie killed by a dead stillborn eating her from inside after that fight with the Saviors.  definitely puts a bigger risk in getting knocked up in the zombie apocolypse.

the whole splitting up thing with Daryl was foolish and someone's going to bite it for sure.  can't see everyone getting out of it alive.  idiots.

wondering if they'll even address the Carol storyline in the season finale or leave that as a cliffhanger for next year.

Well, I guess the one upside if Daryl isn't, in fact, dead is that you can pretty much eliminate him as the one who's going to get killed by Neegan in the finale.    Show wouldn't be dumb enough to pretend to kill him in one episode then actually kill him in the very next episode, would they?

Given the nature of how that scene ended on Sunday night and its similarity to what happened with Glenn earlier in the season with the dumpster incident, I have to think Daryl's going to be alright.

Also, there's just a bit of wishful thinking on my part that Daryl isn't dead because he's arguably the best character on the show.


Daryl survives only to get eaten by zombaby
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 29, 2016, 10:49:14 AM
Although, with no teeth, zombaby might not be much of a risk.  Just horror and emotional ruin.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 29, 2016, 10:50:36 AM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Also, is Daryl a goner now? Darn it. Does this group haven't realized it till now that leaving on your own would end up dragging a few people with you, and in turn, putting everyone in danger?
wouldn't be surprised now to see Maggie killed by a dead stillborn eating her from inside after that fight with the Saviors.  definitely puts a bigger risk in getting knocked up in the zombie apocolypse.

the whole splitting up thing with Daryl was foolish and someone's going to bite it for sure.  can't see everyone getting out of it alive.  idiots.

wondering if they'll even address the Carol storyline in the season finale or leave that as a cliffhanger for next year.

Well, I guess the one upside if Daryl isn't, in fact, dead is that you can pretty much eliminate him as the one who's going to get killed by Neegan in the finale.    Show wouldn't be dumb enough to pretend to kill him in one episode then actually kill him in the very next episode, would they?

Given the nature of how that scene ended on Sunday night and its similarity to what happened with Glenn earlier in the season with the dumpster incident, I have to think Daryl's going to be alright.

Also, there's just a bit of wishful thinking on my part that Daryl isn't dead because he's arguably the best character on the show.


Daryl survives only to get eaten by zombaby

No one survives zombaby.  No one.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 31, 2016, 09:04:26 PM
I don't care who dies.  But I'm becoming a little obsessive about there being a zombaby in the season finale.  (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1e/98/d4/1e98d4de081ce4d4de0e49c828bb58ed.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 31, 2016, 09:15:38 PM
The zom-baby is looking real.

Also, is Daryl a goner now? Darn it. Does this group haven't realized it till now that leaving on your own would end up dragging a few people with you, and in turn, putting everyone in danger?
wouldn't be surprised now to see Maggie killed by a dead stillborn eating her from inside after that fight with the Saviors.  definitely puts a bigger risk in getting knocked up in the zombie apocolypse.

the whole splitting up thing with Daryl was foolish and someone's going to bite it for sure.  can't see everyone getting out of it alive.  idiots.

wondering if they'll even address the Carol storyline in the season finale or leave that as a cliffhanger for next year.

I think that'd be a little much, especially because she's not even that far along from what it looks like.

If the zombaby does happen, I would say that she's miscarrying right now, and it comes out as a zombaby. But, again, unless I missed something, she's not that far along, and the zombaby wouldn't really be a Dawn of the Dead type as much as a fetus type.

There's also fan theories that Enid poisoned her with the pickles or that she aborted herself after all of the talk about bringing a baby into the world.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 31, 2016, 09:19:18 PM
I'm not going to lie though, I'm pretty stoked about seeing the Comedian from the Watchmen (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) play Negan. That's an absolutely perfect casting.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Negan will kill a major good character ...just know he will....all the major bad guys kill one or two ....it's their job ..LOL

Better NOT  be Darryl
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on March 31, 2016, 09:47:41 PM
Negan will kill a major good character ...just know he will....all the major bad guys kill one or two ....it's their job ..LOZl

Better NOT  be Darryl

This finale is going to be dark.  Real dark.

And agreed on Daryl.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on March 31, 2016, 10:09:45 PM
Negan will kill a major good character ...just know he will....all the major bad guys kill one or two ....it's their job ..LOZl

Better NOT  be Darryl

This finale is going to be dark.  Real dark.

And agreed on Daryl.

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Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
Negan will kill a major good character ...just know he will....all the major bad guys kill one or two ....it's their job ..LOZl

Better NOT  be Darryl

This finale is going to be dark.  Real dark.

And agreed on Daryl.

(http://sofa-king-cool-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/site11.png)

Agree ...that says it all.... ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on March 31, 2016, 10:44:23 PM
Daryl's overrated


There, I said it.

(Does that constitute trolling?)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 03, 2016, 07:54:14 PM
Who will be murdered tonight .....he hee  :D

Somebody has to die ......it s the Rules of the show writers .

Darryl
Glen
Rosita
Carol
Morgan
Abraham


I predict TWO are beat to death  with Lucille

Glen and Morgan are gone .


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on April 03, 2016, 09:39:51 PM
I'm choosing to postpone the Walking Dead season finale until after the C's game. Talk about Sophie's choice  :(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on April 03, 2016, 10:33:56 PM
Wait...

What?

WHAT THE HECK!?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on April 03, 2016, 10:49:07 PM
I think the POV view of Lucille at the end is the clue. We see a similar POV at least twice in the episode, and it's from one of the four taken hostage last week. I assumed it was Darryl, but maybe not.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on April 03, 2016, 11:24:36 PM
I think the POV view of Lucille at the end is the clue. We see a similar POV at least twice in the episode, and it's from one of the four taken hostage last week. I assumed it was Darryl, but maybe not.
that could be a clue.  the background behind Negan didn't offer much.

I just get the impression it's someone to Rick's right based on the angle.  I don't think it's a woman so I figure Michonne, Maggie, Rosita and Sasha are same.  His comments about feeding the Carl's eye to Rick seems to take them out as well.

I don't think it's Eugene or Aaron based on location in the line (again, thinking it's to Rick's right).  That would leave Glen, Daryl or Abraham.  I'm leaning towards Abraham based on the comment of the victim taking it like a trooper and Abraham sitting up tall when Negan went by.  Just my guess.  Back up pick would be Glenn.  Can't be Daryl although he WAS on Talking Dead and that's usually a bad sign.

ok with losing anyone that wasn't in the group when they moved into the prison -- just no one that's been with them before that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 03, 2016, 11:44:07 PM
I'm going with Abraham ......but Glen is WAY past due his demise .

I think he is long dead in the comic ...right?   And so is Glen .

They like to change the cast up in order of deaths from the comic.

Going with Abraham meeting his maker.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Banner18now! on April 03, 2016, 11:46:32 PM
It has to be an original character it's getting a little ridiculous that they survive everything
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on April 04, 2016, 12:02:14 AM
It was Glenn in the comics, so there's that
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 04, 2016, 12:08:56 AM
It was Glenn in the comics, so there's that

Too easy to be Glenn that's been talked about for a long time.

Letting Glenn live would funny ......he just keeps on ticking ......he has had close to nine lives already ....LOL......killing him is too obvious .

I'm thinking Abraham is nailed
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on April 04, 2016, 12:14:11 AM
It was Glenn in the comics, so there's that
Yeah I think it's Glenn.

The only thing that made me think it wasn't him is that Glenn yelled Maggie when he was killed in the comics and the character that was killed didn't say anything.

I agree with those that said it is going to be a character that had been captured the episode before. I bet the first episode of next season is a POV from one of those characters.

For anyone that watched the talking dead, wasn't Daryl on? I doubt he said anything, but the fact that thy were giving him his own show on AMC could indicate that he'll no longer be on the walking dead.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on April 04, 2016, 12:26:45 AM
I'm going with Abraham ......but Glen is WAY past due his demise .

I think he is long dead in the comic ...right?   And so is Glen .

They like to change the cast up in order of deaths from the comic.

Going with Abraham meeting his maker.

I would be p---ED if ifs Abraham. This finale was highly anticipated because of the legitimate threat if an original character being killed off.

Granted, I bought to the hype, but if it's Abraham, then the anticipation for the finale is a total waste.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on April 04, 2016, 01:31:31 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in that episode. Cliffhangers are good to an extent, but I'm actually really disappointed that we didn't see at least one of them die. It's getting to the point of being ridiculous with how much they survive. And this show relies way too heavily on them.

Oh, and then freaking Morgan suddenly deciding it's okay now to kill a person trying to save someone that DOESN'T want to be saved?? That whole philosophy that he holds is such BS, and if he really was a follower then he wouldn't have shot the guy. But wait, then he wouldn't be protecting life?! Ding ding ding! Philosophy made contradictory in two sentences. Totally stupid, and him and Carol have just been on my nerves since they started it.

And how dumb does that group have to be to fall right into that trap? It was clear after the second run-in with the Saviors what their plan was. They should've tried to double-back after that attempt and do something else. And how many Saviors are there? Hindsight being 20/20, shouldn't Rick's group just try to transplant somewhere else, like another state far away from the Saviors? You have to think that there's large expanses of land without people close to you right now in the zombie apocalypse, especially being in the South and not far from the Appalachian Valley.

Negan was pretty bad-arse, though. I knew Morgan would play him well, and I especially liked him as The Comedian in The Watchmen.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on April 04, 2016, 01:38:47 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/04/walking-dead-season-six-episode-16-recap-last-day-earth/476349/

This is a pretty good article on the finale.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: JSD on April 04, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/04/walking-dead-season-six-episode-16-recap-last-day-earth/476349/

This is a pretty good article on the finale.

Great article.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 04, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
I'm going with Abraham ......but Glen is WAY past due his demise .

I think he is long dead in the comic ...right?   And so is Glen .

They like to change the cast up in order of deaths from the comic.

Going with Abraham meeting his maker.

I would be p---ED if ifs Abraham. This finale was highly anticipated because of the legitimate threat if an original character being killed off.

Granted, I bought to the hype, but if it's Abraham, then the anticipation for the finale is a total waste.

I'll be totally mad if Darryl is killed off ......last straw ......I'm still not over T Dog
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: TheBig3 on April 04, 2016, 08:16:21 PM
It's someone to Maggie's Left

Negan walks from his right to his left to the victim. Maggie is pointed to right before he says "it", and Glen is way to the right of Maggie (Negan's Left), so Negan would have to point to her and then walk way to the left past Glen and then back to his right to Glen. The timing doesn't fit unless it's just a filming glitch.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on April 04, 2016, 08:20:30 PM
Good buildup in the final 15 minutes but the execution at the very end killed me.  They're going to make that the cliffhanger?

The entire 2nd half of the season has been the buildup to Negan and knowing that someone was going to die.  And someone close to most fans hearts.   The episodes got darker & darker towards the finale and was building to this moment.  Like gathering storm clouds. 

I just think it would've been better served to actually see it happening &, ultimately, who got killed.  See the anguish on the faces of the others and the pain.   Then fade to black or something.  Let the fans stew on that all summer.  Rather than build it up but then say, "Hey, we're going to drag it into next season".

Ugh....
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Csfan1984 on April 04, 2016, 09:07:58 PM
GOT cliffhanger is all I thought. Though we feel cheated it gets people more into coming season. And we can dicuss it for more weeks.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: chambers on April 04, 2016, 09:36:13 PM
Are we sure anyone dies?

Does Negan actually say that one of them has to die?
I thought he said something like 'as punishment, I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of one of you'.

We are expecting someone to die, but maybe he just beats up Darryl or Abraham?

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 04, 2016, 10:59:38 PM
We were under the impression since last season .......THIS was the last season for Walking Dead.

It seems now they are calling it the SEASON finally .......when the Talking Dead last year they were saying THIS was the last season.....

Some where along the line it was decided to extend the season .....I guess

The show,has got lame with us .   

Kinda wish the d just be done with it .

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on April 05, 2016, 12:27:42 AM
well, Shaq, the comics we the best at the point the show is just getting into.

As for the order of where people were placed for who gets killed, I don't think it matters. No one will be upset over that. And during the eny meeny miny mo thing, it seemed to just to faces a bit randomly.

And yes, I think someone has to die. The saviors made a few references to the fact that they kill one person of a new group they find as part of their policy.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: kiwiceltic on April 05, 2016, 02:36:31 AM
I'm going with Abraham.
As soon as he and Sasha had that cheesy moment talking about having a child in the motorhome I knew it was all over for him. Then he had another moment with Eugene before he drives off on his lonesome. The writers always give characters scenes like that before they kill them off.

Abraham is also dead in the comics.

The only doubt I have is that Glen is the one killed by Lucille in the comics.... so who knows
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on April 05, 2016, 03:43:59 AM
I'm going with Abraham.
As soon as he and Sasha had that cheesy moment talking about having a child in the motorhome I knew it was all over for him. Then he had another moment with Eugene before he drives off on his lonesome. The writers always give characters scenes like that before they kill them off.

Abraham is also dead in the comics.

The only doubt I have is that Glen is the one killed by Lucille in the comics.... so who knows

I think it's Michonne, I said it as soon as her and rick finally kissed that one of them was as good as dead. I'm pretty sure it won't be rick...

I don't want any of them to die but please let it be one of Abraham/Aaron/Sasha/Eugene. Who I want it to be wasn't there, Morgan or Gabriel (not so much Morgan after that epi).

Whoever it is, Negan called them tough or something, pretty much everyone there I would consider tough and could take a beating like a soldier except for Eugene (maybe Carl). I don't think it's Maggie b/c there would be no joy in beating someone who already looks close to death. I said it's probably Michonne but thinking about it, Saviors might be the type that won't kill the women because their group has a lot of men, I don't see them enjoying a sausage factory for too long.   
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on April 05, 2016, 07:35:07 AM
Good buildup in the final 15 minutes but the execution at the very end killed me.  They're going to make that the cliffhanger?

The entire 2nd half of the season has been the buildup to Negan and knowing that someone was going to die.  And someone close to most fans hearts.   The episodes got darker & darker towards the finale and was building to this moment.  Like gathering storm clouds. 

I just think it would've been better served to actually see it happening &, ultimately, who got killed.  See the anguish on the faces of the others and the pain.   Then fade to black or something.  Let the fans stew on that all summer.  Rather than build it up but then say, "Hey, we're going to drag it into next season".

Ugh....

They may as well have played cheesy game show music during "the decision".
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on April 05, 2016, 07:36:18 AM
Quote
Are we sure anyone dies?

Does Negan actually say that one of them has to die?
I thought he said something like 'as punishment, I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of one of you'.

We are expecting someone to die, but maybe he just beats up Darryl or Abraham?

He was not using a whiffle bat.   He says taking it like a champ and swung straight down on their their head.  Some one died, they wanted to pull a Jon Snow, moment.

Carl and Rick, I think are safe, because he said he would feed Carl's eye to Rick if they moved or made noise.   This denotes they are safe.

In the comics, SPOILER, Negan does not harm women and children with a code of honor thing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on April 05, 2016, 09:09:42 AM
Good grief...this show...ugh.  Seems like it's about run it's course. The show relies too heavily on the remaining original members. But the quality of the show has deteriorated in an effort to keep the core alive.

Also, Rick is the biggest dumbass. Why do these fools follow him?

So what now, Rick and his crew become slaves? And then they try an uprising and all die? The show ends and AMC hopes their new "Fear the Walking Dead" takes off, replacing the original show?

Problem is, I'm not sure the new show is all that good. First season wasn't anything spectacular.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on April 05, 2016, 09:20:39 AM
Quote
Are we sure anyone dies?

Does Negan actually say that one of them has to die?
I thought he said something like 'as punishment, I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of one of you'.

We are expecting someone to die, but maybe he just beats up Darryl or Abraham?

He was not using a whiffle bat.   He says taking it like a champ and swung straight down on their their head.  Some one died, they wanted to pull a Jon Snow, moment.

Carl and Rick, I think are safe, because he said he would feed Carl's eye to Rick if they moved or made noise.   This denotes they are safe.

In the comics, SPOILER, Negan does not harm women and children with a code of honor thing.
throwing in a TWD thought process for a megalomaniac like Negan --> if he's looking to instill terror and submission, killing a woman wouldn't make him look tough.  it'd make him look weak.  Ruthless, but weak.  I really think he'd look to take out the biggest person in the group which is easily Abraham.  Glenn is my close-second for who's killed only because he's had a lot of close calls and killing him would add to the group's (specifically Maggie's) suffering and despair. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Donoghus on April 05, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
Quote
Are we sure anyone dies?

Does Negan actually say that one of them has to die?
I thought he said something like 'as punishment, I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of one of you'.

We are expecting someone to die, but maybe he just beats up Darryl or Abraham?

He was not using a whiffle bat.   He says taking it like a champ and swung straight down on their their head.  Some one died, they wanted to pull a Jon Snow, moment.

Carl and Rick, I think are safe, because he said he would feed Carl's eye to Rick if they moved or made noise.   This denotes they are safe.

In the comics, SPOILER, Negan does not harm women and children with a code of honor thing.
throwing in a TWD thought process for a megalomaniac like Negan --> if he's looking to instill terror and submission, killing a woman wouldn't make him look tough.  it'd make him look weak.  Ruthless, but weak.  I really think he'd look to take out the biggest person in the group which is easily Abraham.  Glenn is my close-second for who's killed only because he's had a lot of close calls and killing him would add to the group's (specifically Maggie's) suffering and despair.

I know how the comics say otherwise but I'd also consider the fact that Negan mentioned the one "freebie" after Glenn's reaction when they first were lined up.

Would he still go ahead and kill Glenn after giving the freebie? 

I'm also still perturbed by the fake Glenn death at mid-season.  Would the writers be dumb enough to come back and then kill him for good at the end of the same season?

Some of the writing this season has been pretty atrocious.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Evantime34 on April 05, 2016, 10:03:01 AM
I feel like this show started off slow then became more enjoyable once the main characters went from surviving due to luck to surviving due to skill.

Watching characters stumble around and get lucky gets boring, but watching characters efficiently dispatch zombies and enemies is fun. So while I don't enjoy seeing Rick and the survivor's get owned like they did by the Saviors, I don't mind a new big challenge arising for them to deal with.

So what now, Rick and his crew become slaves? And then they try an uprising and all die?
I think next season will start out as them going back to Alexandria then giving half of their stuff to the Saviors. While they seem to be compliant, I think they will align themselves with the dudes with body armor and eventually either escape the Saviors or defeat them.

As to who is dead, I think it will be Glenn, Daryl, Abraham or Maggie. 3 of those characters are dead by that point in the comic and Daryl never existed in the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on April 05, 2016, 11:28:20 AM
I feel like this show started off slow then became more enjoyable once the main characters went from surviving due to luck to surviving due to skill.

Watching characters stumble around and get lucky gets boring, but watching characters efficiently dispatch zombies and enemies is fun. So while I don't enjoy seeing Rick and the survivor's get owned like they did by the Saviors, I don't mind a new big challenge arising for them to deal with.

So what now, Rick and his crew become slaves? And then they try an uprising and all die?
I think next season will start out as them going back to Alexandria then giving half of their stuff to the Saviors. While they seem to be compliant, I think they will align themselves with the dudes with body armor and eventually either escape the Saviors or defeat them.

As to who is dead, I think it will be Glenn, Daryl, Abraham or Maggie. 3 of those characters are dead by that point in the comic and Daryl never existed in the comics.
glad I haven't read the comic.  think I'd be really PO'ed if I kept seeing characters I get attached to getting killed off constantly.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on April 05, 2016, 11:34:56 AM
Darryl

he has that new show coming up bout riding motorcycles. never seen an actor with 2 shows on the same channel
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hemingway on April 05, 2016, 11:52:16 AM
well it has to be someone important (spencer's death would be as pointless as his character.) Eugene, Abraham and Glenn all got some camera time that could be an ending. Darryl could go too as that would shock fans. The writers have done a pretty good job as it doesn't seem obvious that it will be Glenn which I expected it to.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 05, 2016, 08:57:49 PM
Darryl

he has that new show coming up bout riding motorcycles. never seen an actor with 2 shows on the same channel

Good point ....

But I'll still be mad if he is killed off. ..LOL
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on April 05, 2016, 09:12:18 PM
This is possible clue but it could be trolling by the star too.

Potential spoiler

http://undeadwalking.com/2015/06/01/walking-dead-is-michael-cudlitzs-tweet-really-a-spoiler-or-not/


(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv163/dlong1968/Michael-Cudlitz-Original-Tweet-467x700.jpg) (http://s680.photobucket.com/user/dlong1968/media/Michael-Cudlitz-Original-Tweet-467x700.jpg.html)

Could be legit could be fake, but it was taken down pretty quick.

This show needs to kill a regular to get its edge back.  The we are invincible killing machines one week and morons who can't find anyone or fight the next is simply bad writing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on April 07, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
This is possible clue but it could be trolling by the star too.

Potential spoiler

http://undeadwalking.com/2015/06/01/walking-dead-is-michael-cudlitzs-tweet-really-a-spoiler-or-not/


(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv163/dlong1968/Michael-Cudlitz-Original-Tweet-467x700.jpg) (http://s680.photobucket.com/user/dlong1968/media/Michael-Cudlitz-Original-Tweet-467x700.jpg.html)

Could be legit could be fake, but it was taken down pretty quick.

This show needs to kill a regular to get its edge back.  The we are invincible killing machines one week and morons who can't find anyone or fight the next is simply bad writing.
would have to believe this is faked or something thrown out there to get fans worked up.  Can't imagine any cast member not being required to keep silent on any future plotlines they know about -- including ending of contracts due to being off the show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on July 28, 2016, 11:49:30 PM
https://youtu.be/18FFnPcH0jU


who gets wacked with the spiked bat..?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on August 15, 2016, 04:29:54 AM
Interesting. This is claiming that the show is going to kill TWO people - Glenn and Abraham. I've thought it was going to be Abraham the whole time, but also killing off Glenn would be brutal.

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/07/the_walking_dead_season_7_here.html
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Bahku on August 15, 2016, 06:15:39 AM
Interesting. This is claiming that the show is going to kill TWO people - Glenn and Abraham. I've thought it was going to be Abraham the whole time, but also killing off Glenn would be brutal.

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/07/the_walking_dead_season_7_here.html

Interesting ... I've been saying it's Glenn since the end of last season, (just from the remaining camera angle that's from the view of the one getting hit), but I could see this as well ... no rush to see the end of summer, but this season should be good!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: dannyboy35 on August 15, 2016, 07:35:58 AM
How is this whole series going to wrap up ? Everyone a zombie? A cure? I can't even guess. I cant believe this show who's been doing the same thing over and over has lasted so long but they do it well. I don't like zombies at all but they got me watching every season.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 29, 2016, 10:52:27 PM
so, anyone thinking that the first episode of the upcoming season DOESN'T resolve the Negan beating and instead goes back to Alexandria to show what's happening there? 

if it happens, would you consider it a brilliant piece of writing/plotting to string people along for another week or would you more likely throw something through your TV?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on August 29, 2016, 11:28:24 PM
so, anyone thinking that the first episode of the upcoming season DOESN'T resolve the Negan beating and instead goes back to Alexandria to show what's happening there? 

if it happens, would you consider it a brilliant piece of writing/plotting to string people along for another week or would you more likely throw something through your TV?

I will pray that I don't go kid Drew Barrymore in firestarter on the TV! They better tell me right away!!


with that said, I expect it in epi. 2.  ;D >:(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 30, 2016, 08:13:54 AM
so, anyone thinking that the first episode of the upcoming season DOESN'T resolve the Negan beating and instead goes back to Alexandria to show what's happening there? 

if it happens, would you consider it a brilliant piece of writing/plotting to string people along for another week or would you more likely throw something through your TV?

I will pray that I don't go kid Drew Barrymore in firestarter on the TV! They better tell me right away!!


with that said, I expect it in epi. 2.  ;D >:(
I appreciate that analogy of firestarter.  probably a better depiction of most viewers reactions should they delay to episode 2.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on August 30, 2016, 08:20:12 AM
Glen meets the bat of death
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: cons on August 30, 2016, 01:46:26 PM
I think I read somewhere they promised the next ep would start right where they left off
They can't make us keep waiting!! I hope.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: dannyboy35 on August 30, 2016, 01:50:33 PM
Part of me wants it to be Darryl to make it unpredictable and witness extreme fans go insane. Lol
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: dannyboy35 on August 30, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
Darryl

he has that new show coming up bout riding motorcycles. never seen an actor with 2 shows on the same channel

Hmm. Good point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 30, 2016, 02:22:31 PM
Darryl

he has that new show coming up bout riding motorcycles. never seen an actor with 2 shows on the same channel

Hmm. Good point.

Drew Carey did it.  the biking show can be done anytime so I wouldn't read too much into the filming workload
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on August 30, 2016, 02:37:55 PM
How is this whole series going to wrap up ? Everyone a zombie? A cure? I can't even guess. I cant believe this show who's been doing the same thing over and over has lasted so long but they do it well. I don't like zombies at all but they got me watching every season.

The crew is surrounded with no chance for escape.  At the most desperate moment a now-toddler aged Judith bites a zombie, which immediately collapses and gets back up...as a human. 

The beauty of this is it makes just as much sense as the last couple seasons.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Celtics4ever on August 30, 2016, 07:33:15 PM
possible spoiler

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-walking-dead-season-7-negan-kills-daryl-glenn-rick-grimes-carl-eugene-season-6-finale-a7079141.html
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 16, 2016, 11:36:16 PM
ok - anyone catch the 5 minutes season preview tonight? 

SPOILER ALERT (POSSIBLY). 
Based on what was shown, the right side of Rick's face had blood splatter from the beating.  On Rick's immediate right is Maggie, then Abraham.  the shot of the ground after Negan drags off Rick looks like there's a load of bashed brains on the ground right next to where Rick was.  This looks like it was likely Maggie that bit the dust. 

Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 17, 2016, 12:15:22 AM
ok - anyone catch the 5 minutes season preview tonight? 

SPOILER ALERT (POSSIBLY). 
Based on what was shown, the right side of Rick's face had blood splatter from the beating.  On Rick's immediate right is Maggie, then Abraham.  the shot of the ground after Negan drags off Rick looks like there's a load of bashed brains on the ground right next to where Rick was.  This looks like it was likely Maggie that bit the dust. 

Thoughts?

A lot of people have been saying the first episode is pretty grizzly, so it very well could be her. I still think it's more than one person, though, because one person doesn't seem to do it justice since they would normally kill one person from the group to get their attention anyways.

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm having a hard time getting pumped up for this season. I'm still ticked at the whole last episode where they just made it a big cliffhanger to get people to keep tuning in. I'll still watch, but the whole series has just become bland to me at this point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2016, 08:54:52 PM
Is anyone else kind of dreading watching this supposedly horrific season premier?

I've been gradually losing interest in this show in the last two years anyways, and I'm almost to the point of not wanting to watch it now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2016, 09:05:52 PM
just dreading who got killed.  hoping for Abraham.  dreading Maggie

of course there's no resolution yet in the opening credits--- AAARRRRGGGHHHHH
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
spoiler alert:

Pegged it.  question is, is there another
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2016, 09:25:41 PM
spoiler alert:

Pegged it.  question is, is there another

spoiler again

NO  NO NO NO not him too!!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: A Future of Stevens on October 23, 2016, 10:23:46 PM
That was rough.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2016, 10:27:04 PM
SPOILER:



GD, that was morbid. Sick to my stomach.

But I knew it would be two people. One just wasn't enough, especially since that's their regular method anyways.

But, holy hell, Morgan was an absolute perfect fit as Neegan. Just an awesome job on his part.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MJohnnyboy on October 23, 2016, 10:28:25 PM
Holy. Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.. That was worth the wait.

The Walking Dead had huge expectations to meet, and boy did they meet it. You know a show does a great job when you don't know what is going to happen next. So much so in fact that it makes you quiver.

Here's to hoping they build off of a TERRIFYING season premiere.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2016, 10:31:09 PM
I think we're going to end up seeing Super Saiyan Maggie released now lol

I'm betting she organizes all of the clans against Neegan to finally end it. Doesn't she take over the Hiltop Community in the comics?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2016, 11:12:49 PM
I think we're going to end up seeing Super Saiyan Maggie released now lol

I'm betting she organizes all of the clans against Neegan to finally end it. Doesn't she take over the Hiltop Community in the comics?
if you're giving away what happens in the comics and it hasn't happened on the show, please post (possible) SPOILER somewhere before you say it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: manl_lui on October 23, 2016, 11:22:22 PM
I think we're going to end up seeing Super Saiyan Maggie released now lol

I'm betting she organizes all of the clans against Neegan to finally end it. Doesn't she take over the Hiltop Community in the comics?

TP for referencing super saiyan :D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2016, 11:32:28 PM
I think we're going to end up seeing Super Saiyan Maggie released now lol

I'm betting she organizes all of the clans against Neegan to finally end it. Doesn't she take over the Hiltop Community in the comics?
if you're giving away what happens in the comics and it hasn't happened on the show, please post (possible) SPOILER somewhere before you say it.

My bad. I was legitimately asking, because I don't read the comics (who actually does?). But I thought I remembered someone saying that, or perhaps it was someone positing a theory about  what would happen after this happened now. Who knows.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on October 24, 2016, 12:59:09 AM
Not to be a wet blanket, but there's no reason that couldn't have been trimmed to about 15 minutes and added to the end of the last season finale to make an awesome episode more awesome and left us still waiting in anticipation for what came next.  This and the Glenn fakeout death make me a little concerned that showrunner Gimple is trying a little to hard to show Hollywood how sophisticated they are and garner some award show love, which the show has long deserved any way.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Casperian on October 24, 2016, 08:03:48 AM
Holy Moly, that was...something. I almost didn't want to watch this show anymore after last season's Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ery, but this was a worthy pay-off. Let's hope they're not falling back into this rather formulaic TV story-telling. I especially liked how they teased Rick losing his hand when he was alone with Negan. As someone who has read the comics, I'm totally pleased with the fan-service here.

Not to be a wet blanket, but there's no reason that couldn't have been trimmed to about 15 minutes and added to the end of the last season finale to make an awesome episode more awesome and left us still waiting in anticipation for what came next.  This and the Glenn fakeout death make me a little concerned that showrunner Gimple is trying a little to hard to show Hollywood how sophisticated they are and garner some award show love, which the show has long deserved any way.

Mike

True, and I shared your concerns about TWD. However, after this episode it seems they have learnt their lesson. I'm willing to give it another chance.

Let's keep in mind that this isn't the first time our survivors encounter another group, or a single, big bad villain. They had to make sure Negan would be more than just another Governor, and 15 minutes isn't nearly enough for that.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 24, 2016, 08:51:17 AM
Holy Moly, that was...something. I almost didn't want to watch this show anymore after last season's ****ery, but this was a worthy pay-off. Let's hope they're not falling back into this rather formulaic TV story-telling. I especially liked how they teased Rick losing his hand when he was alone with Negan. As someone who has read the comics, I'm totally pleased with the fan-service here.

Not to be a wet blanket, but there's no reason that couldn't have been trimmed to about 15 minutes and added to the end of the last season finale to make an awesome episode more awesome and left us still waiting in anticipation for what came next.  This and the Glenn fakeout death make me a little concerned that showrunner Gimple is trying a little to hard to show Hollywood how sophisticated they are and garner some award show love, which the show has long deserved any way.

Mike

True, and I shared your concerns about TWD. However, after this episode it seems they have learnt their lesson. I'm willing to give it another chance.

Let's keep in mind that this isn't the first time our survivors encounter another group, or a single, big bad villain. They had to make sure Negan would be more than just another Governor, and 15 minutes isn't nearly enough for that.
have to agree with you on that last point.  Last year showed Negan was a real bad-ass but the premiere this year showed he was a master gamesman in breaking Rick and the group's will to fight (except Maggie).  show had me to the point where I hated Negan so much I wanted to use Lucille on him.  I can't recall ever getting that wrapped up in a show ever.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on October 24, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
Well then.....

I didn't think this show had that kind of episode left in the holster.

Epic
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 10, 2016, 05:47:53 PM
Snoozeville.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on November 13, 2016, 09:10:37 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 21, 2016, 05:22:07 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on November 21, 2016, 05:49:32 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze

Last night was definitely another filler episode.

I don't mind the occasional 'slow' episode, but too many of them back to back to back does start to really become a drag.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on November 21, 2016, 05:55:10 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze

This is the first time where being a reader of the comic has been a bad thing.  I know where the story is going and it's becoming pretty darn clear they are going to take FOREVER getting there.  The entire Governor saga lasted 22 episodes.  They spent 11 episodes just building up to Negan's first appearance.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 21, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze

This is the first time where being a reader of the comic has been a bad thing.  I know where the story is going and it's becoming pretty darn clear they are going to take FOREVER getting there.  The entire Governor saga lasted 22 episodes.  They spent 11 episodes just building up to Negan's first appearance.

Mike

That to me is why the Walking Dead is a good show, but not a great one. They take way too long to get to the climax of the story. So many of the episodes that they tell are twice, sometimes three times as long as they should be. Compared to say AMC's other recent big hit, Breaking Bad, where the story was told perfectly with hardly any filler.

It's a shame because in the comics, things are constantly happening to keep you interested in what happens next.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 21, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze

Last night was definitely another filler episode.

I don't mind the occasional 'slow' episode, but too many of them back to back to back does start to really become a drag.

Carl in love is a bit of a gagger
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on November 21, 2016, 06:30:31 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze

Last night was definitely another filler episode.

I don't mind the occasional 'slow' episode, but too many of them back to back to back does start to really become a drag.

Carl in love is a bit of a gagger

The thing is, the emotional back stories are what make the deaths that much more powerful.

But the show needs to find a better balance.  They were letting main characters last too long and only killing off the new "sidekicks".  They knocked off a few big dogs, have had a little lull, and now I'd expect them to knock off a few role players.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 21, 2016, 06:37:48 PM
Neegan is certainly one heck of a 'bad guy'.

It'll be a while, I m sure, but hopefully his death is spectacular when it finally comes.

Multiple seeds being planted this week.  But still...snooooooooze

Last night was definitely another filler episode.

I don't mind the occasional 'slow' episode, but too many of them back to back to back does start to really become a drag.

Carl in love is a bit of a gagger

The thing is, the emotional back stories are what make the deaths that much more powerful.

But the show needs to find a better balance.  They were letting main characters last too long and only killing off the new "sidekicks".  They knocked off a few big dogs, have had a little lull, and now I'd expect them to knock off a few role players.

I know.  I've just never been a Carl fan.

I still don't buy that Negan would have let him live after drawing a gun on one of this lackies.

Where's T-Dogg when you need him?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on November 28, 2016, 12:44:33 AM
Well, that episode kind of summed up why ratings have been dropping like a rock for TWD.  It wasn't really that bad but it barely moved the overall story, was built on a tertiary character and a quinary character we hadn't seen in 9 months and 9 episodes and it was painfully obvious how it will eventually tie back into the main story.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 28, 2016, 07:43:18 AM
Well, that episode kind of summed up why ratings have been dropping like a rock for TWD.  It wasn't really that bad but it barely moved the overall story, was built on a tertiary character and a quinary character we hadn't seen in 9 months and 9 episodes and it was painfully obvious how it will eventually tie back into the main story.

Mike

Yeh, I'm having a hard time convincing my wife to stick with it.    I'm kind of doing it out of loyalty.  Like watching the Celtics during a tank season.  Maybe we'll win the lottery?

...we never win the lottery  :'(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 28, 2016, 08:01:32 AM
Me and wif have quit the Dead series .   We agreed that last season was our finale.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 28, 2016, 10:42:55 PM
Well, that episode kind of summed up why ratings have been dropping like a rock for TWD.  It wasn't really that bad but it barely moved the overall story, was built on a tertiary character and a quinary character we hadn't seen in 9 months and 9 episodes and it was painfully obvious how it will eventually tie back into the main story.

Mike

Yeah, it was a puzzling choice. There are characters and storylines that people care about. There's a kickass hero to develop in Jesus. There's an awesome villain who has a couple of recognizable sidekicks. There's a guy with a dang tiger!

... and we get Tara and a side of Heath.  Do they pay Andrew Lincoln, Norman Reedus, etc. by the episode? Is this only to save money? Because, storywise, they could have told that in 15 minutes if they felt compelled to advance that plot point.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 28, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Well, that episode kind of summed up why ratings have been dropping like a rock for TWD.  It wasn't really that bad but it barely moved the overall story, was built on a tertiary character and a quinary character we hadn't seen in 9 months and 9 episodes and it was painfully obvious how it will eventually tie back into the main story.

Mike

Yeah, it was a puzzling choice. There are characters and storylines that people care about. There's a kickass hero to develop in Jesus. There's an awesome villain who has a couple of recognizable sidekicks. There's a guy with a dang tiger!

... and we get Tara and a side of Heath.  Do they pay Andrew Lincoln, Norman Reedus, etc. by the episode? Is this only to save money? Because, storywise, they could have told that in 15 minutes if they felt compelled to advance that plot point.

have to agree that this latest story could have been done in half the time while still building the characters and showing the new group of people with Negan's impact on them.

I do think it was a worthwhile storyline, albeit a bit longer than needed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on December 04, 2016, 10:47:53 PM
This season has had a lot of problems but I finally figured out why the character of Negan just isn't working.  It's not the actor, who is doing what he can with what he's given.

In the comics, Negan is a chatterbox who is constantly swearing in rather inventive ways.  No one else in the entire series has talked anything like him and it gives the character an energy and a cartoonish quality that contrasts his extreme brutality.  TV Negan is saying a lot of the same things but without the colorful profanity it...all...moves...so...slowly.  He comes off like The Governor on mood stabilizers.

They probably should have just had him fake swear all the time, "freak this" and "freak that," and embraced the larger-than-life ridiculousness of the guy.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on December 11, 2016, 10:31:39 PM
Spencer....

Saw that coming a mile away. What a dope.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on December 11, 2016, 11:14:03 PM
Spencer....

Saw that coming a mile away. What a dope.
probably the most enjoyable killing until Negan's time comes
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: blink on December 11, 2016, 11:29:44 PM
Spencer....

Saw that coming a mile away. What a dope.

I have to agree.  I am not a comics reader, but my wife and I both said, Spencer is going to die as soon as he started to go talk to Negan.

This season has been kind of disappointing.  It feels like the writing isn't as good.  I know it is based on the comics, but it just seems a bit more forced.  It just doesn't seem likely that after what happened at the end of last season with Negan letting Rick and the gang go home that they wouldn't have hidden a lot of their guns or immediately started preparing to fight back.  Maybe that is how it played out exactly in the comics and they are following that closely.  I dunno...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on December 11, 2016, 11:38:49 PM
Yeah, I've never read any of the comics, but you knew he was gonna die when he tried smooth talking Negan. You ain't BS'ing someone like that, Negan saw right through his BS.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: blink on December 11, 2016, 11:49:22 PM
Yeah Spencer was out of his league. 

I am hoping that the action / writing will pick up a bit in the next 1/2 of the season with the 3 groups finally uniting against the saviors.  There have been a lot of filler / background type episodes so far.  I kind of watch due to loyalty too, but hopefully it gets better again.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on December 11, 2016, 11:51:19 PM
Spencer....

Saw that coming a mile away. What a dope.

I have to agree.  I am not a comics reader, but my wife and I both said, Spencer is going to die as soon as he started to go talk to Negan.

This season has been kind of disappointing.  It feels like the writing isn't as good.  I know it is based on the comics, but it just seems a bit more forced.  It just doesn't seem likely that after what happened at the end of last season with Negan letting Rick and the gang go home that they wouldn't have hidden a lot of their guns or immediately started preparing to fight back.  Maybe that is how it played out exactly in the comics and they are following that closely.  I dunno...

Don't blame the comics.  It was the same basic story but played out a lot quicker and with way less repetitive suffering. 

This wasn't a bad episode but could have been show #4 and not the mid-season finale. I think this all goes back to the fakeout "death" of Glenn where they even took the actor's name out of the credits.  The show runner said he wanted the audience to experience the mystery of Glenn being alive or dead just like the characters.  They're focusing too much on manipulating the audience's emotions instead of simply telling their story.

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on December 11, 2016, 11:58:38 PM
Yeah Spencer was out of his league. 


He did every but call him Negan Bubby

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ipagRxiCqM
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: bopna on December 13, 2016, 11:47:28 AM
Spencer sweet talkin Neegan was like the scene where Gene Hackman waving the white hankie and sweet talkin Gen Zod in Supes 2...except Gen Zod didnt took Luthors guts out..eeewhh.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on December 13, 2016, 11:55:30 AM
Spencer sweet talkin Neegan was like the scene where Gene Hackman waving the white hankie and sweet talkin Gen Zod in Supes 2...except Gen Zod didnt took Luthors guts out..eeewhh.
I was thinking of Ellis trying to sweet talk Hans Gruber in Die Hard

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 13, 2016, 01:00:28 PM
We stopped watching .

Show needed closure last year .

dragging on past it's time.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on February 13, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
Cutting down all those highway zombies with the cable strung between the two cars was such a fantastic scene.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 13, 2017, 06:44:08 PM
Cutting down all those highway zombies with the cable strung between the two cars was such a fantastic scene.

Yeh.  That one needs to be repeated.  Just go out there with the cheese slicer clothes line and cut down the numbers a bit!

Sort of reminded me of this scene: (warning major blood) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22XdYRbFHoE

All in all a pretty sappy episode though.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MJohnnyboy on February 13, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Cutting down all those highway zombies with the cable strung between the two cars was such a fantastic scene.

Yeh.  That one needs to be repeated.  Just go out there with the cheese slicer clothes line and cut down the numbers a bit!

All in all a pretty sappy episode though.

Yeah I was pretty bored leading up to that moment.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on February 13, 2017, 06:58:03 PM
Cutting down all those highway zombies with the cable strung between the two cars was such a fantastic scene.

Yeh.  That one needs to be repeated.  Just go out there with the cheese slicer clothes line and cut down the numbers a bit!

All in all a pretty sappy episode though.

Yeah I was pretty bored leading up to that moment.

That SCENE was EPIC. I actually liked the episode. At least the entire time we saw a confident Rick (really missed that in the first half of the season). Some dull moments (Rosita in the episode was just.. bleh), but pretty good episode to start.

If you are hoping for a legit war/battle to start like in the comics, you will have to wait until the last few episodes of the season and into next season (still building up a bit).

The smile at the end by Rick was great to see as well. I wonder who he was smiling at though. Father Gabriel? Maybe Heath is back with another group?

I highly doubt it's Carol (which is a rumor).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on February 13, 2017, 07:40:30 PM

If you are hoping for a legit war/battle to start like in the comics, you will have to wait until the last few episodes of the season and into next season (still building up a bit).


I wouldn't be surprised if it's longer than that.  I think the show will look to continue to play out the subjugation story line a bit longer.  I think it's going to take a pretty horrific thing happening to the Kingdom first (probably tied to the Saviors finding out Daryl has been given asylum there), and the show laid the groundwork for a number of story lines in last night's episode to delay that.

But I've never read the comics, so I don't know how closely the timelines and story of the show and comics relate, or if it matters going forward.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on February 13, 2017, 07:54:07 PM
Cutting down all those highway zombies with the cable strung between the two cars was such a fantastic scene.

Yeh.  That one needs to be repeated.  Just go out there with the cheese slicer clothes line and cut down the numbers a bit!

All in all a pretty sappy episode though.

Yeah I was pretty bored leading up to that moment.

That SCENE was EPIC. I actually liked the episode. At least the entire time we saw a confident Rick (really missed that in the first half of the season). Some dull moments (Rosita in the episode was just.. bleh), but pretty good episode to start.

If you are hoping for a legit war/battle to start like in the comics, you will have to wait until the last few episodes of the season and into next season (still building up a bit).

The smile at the end by Rick was great to see as well. I wonder who he was smiling at though. Father Gabriel? Maybe Heath is back with another group?

I highly doubt it's Carol (which is a rumor).

Rick is all about the numbers now.  I think ithad to be something Gabriel related.  Why else show the opening scene?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on February 26, 2017, 07:54:13 PM
I LOVE the Walking Dead even with some slow episodes (character development ones - ones that a lot of people HATE).

But I REALLY hope tonight's episode isn't all about "finding Daryl".

Not saying I expect a war but at least some action besides seeing Dwight on a motorcycle all episode surveying the land..  :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on February 26, 2017, 10:05:57 PM
well that was a horrible way to go. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on March 12, 2017, 09:57:34 PM
I think the dark sides of Morgan and Carol are going to be making appearances soon.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 12, 2017, 10:08:09 PM
I think the dark sides of Morgan and Carol are going to be making appearances soon.
I think the Negan rebellion is going to need them
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on April 02, 2017, 11:28:17 PM
Spoiler Alert if you didn't see the last episode yet.

ok, who saw THAT coming?  got thrown off with the whole headphone thing with Sasha.  was that a zombie dream or did she really wait that long to take the pill?  would figure she'd need that whole 2 hour ride to convert.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on April 02, 2017, 11:48:15 PM
I'm not at all surprised the trash people double-crossed Rick and the gang.  Also not surprised the Maggie, Carol, Morgan and the Kingdom saved the day.

Good entertaining episode, a bit cliche, but had me on the edge of my seat none the less.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: MBunge on April 03, 2017, 12:44:42 AM
Definitely an enjoyable episode but did we really need the last 15 episodes of drudgery for that?

Since they started the build up to Negan in the middle of season six, it's like they (the producers) have gotten too wrapped up in their grandiose plans and have let quality control slide.  Like, all the big moments worked but there were a bunch of little things that didn't.  I mean, when did Rick turn into The Black Knight from Monty Python?  "You shot me?  Feh!  It's just a flesh wound!"

Mike
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on April 03, 2017, 09:06:12 AM
Definitely an enjoyable episode but did we really need the last 15 episodes of drudgery for that?

Since they started the build up to Negan in the middle of season six, it's like they (the producers) have gotten too wrapped up in their grandiose plans and have let quality control slide.  Like, all the big moments worked but there were a bunch of little things that didn't.  I mean, when did Rick turn into The Black Knight from Monty Python?  "You shot me?  Feh!  It's just a flesh wound!"

Mike
to be fair, the intention of shooting him was just to wound him to make him more compliant, not to kill him or mortally wound him.

hope next season they stick it to the trash people too. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on April 03, 2017, 11:49:52 AM
Never thought I'd say this, but I actually hope Jadis dies a more brutal death or has a far worse injury than Negan (who I know is still alive in the comics).

Acting was great yesterday though, and the ending was perfect IMO.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on April 03, 2017, 12:02:30 PM
Never thought I'd say this, but I actually hope Jadis dies a more brutal death or has a far worse injury than Negan (who I know is still alive in the comics).

Acting was great yesterday though, and the ending was perfect IMO.

I'm wondering if the trash people and Negan's crew end up having their own separate battle. I'm betting that is a very tenuous alliance.

Also, Shiva jumping in like that and eating people was fantastic. Negan looked legitimately freaked out. Then he just looked furious when he saw Maggie.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on April 03, 2017, 12:04:09 PM
Never thought I'd say this, but I actually hope Jadis dies a more brutal death or has a far worse injury than Negan (who I know is still alive in the comics).

Acting was great yesterday though, and the ending was perfect IMO.

I'm wondering if the trash people and Negan's crew end up having their own separate battle. I'm betting that is a very tenuous alliance.

Also, Shiva jumping in like that and eating people was fantastic. Negan looked legitimately freaked out. Then he just looked furious when he saw Maggie.

"They have a [dang] tiger?!?!?" - Negan  :laugh:

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, but I still wouldn't mind seeing the trash people wiped out as a result LOL.

Shiva is now my favorite.

I was expected gunshots or something as Negan was about to swing, but then the tiger came in. PURE GENIUS.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on October 24, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
loved the season premiere.   good to finally see a plan of attack from the 'alliance' against Negan and the zombie hoard added a lovely finishing touch to wiping out Sanctuary.   Rick should have taken out Negan when he first popped out the door though--missed opportunity that'll likely bite in the butt later.

anyone have any thoughts on the differing timelines presented?

Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 12, 2017, 10:28:57 PM
SPOILER

RIP Shiva.   really disappointed they killed her off
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 13, 2017, 08:51:30 PM
I’m not buying that a dozen walkers in a muddy ditch could take down a full grown angry tiger.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: chicagoceltic on November 13, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
I’m not buying that a dozen walkers in a muddy ditch could take down a full grown angry tiger.
If I can suspend belief enough to buy walkers I guess I can suspend belief enough to buy them taking down a tiger but it is not easy...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 13, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
I’m not buying that a dozen walkers in a muddy ditch could take down a full grown angry tiger.

They can. These monsters are not afraid to just pin down anything alive, and would keep going unless their brains stop.

Shiva is strong and big, but she's going against a horde of hungry zombies who has no remorse and no fear. She might be able to take down a couple, but eventually she will be overwhelmed with the numbers, which is what happened.

Regardless, I didn't feel sad when the Kingdom fighters went down, but the Shiva death really dragged me down.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: cons on November 13, 2017, 10:00:32 PM
the hardest part to suspend belief about is that Negan just walks out there with his cohorts and no one shoots them when they all have a clear shot at it. 
  I'm liking the general tone of the season - much more upbeat etc, but it is getting harder to follow - who are all these people at the outposts - and what exactly is the overall plan? it seems scattered.

 Negan is great in the comics but it just hasn't carried over good enough to PG 13 rated TV. They need to kind of move on a bit i think. it just seems too cartoon-like now.  just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 13, 2017, 10:01:32 PM
I’m not buying that a dozen walkers in a muddy ditch could take down a full grown angry tiger.

They can. These monsters are not afraid to just pin down anything alive, and would keep going unless their brains stop.

Shiva is strong and big, but she's going against a horde of hungry zombies who has no remorse and no fear. She might be able to take down a couple, but eventually she will be overwhelmed with the numbers, which is what happened.

Regardless, I didn't feel sad when the Kingdom fighters went down, but the Shiva death really dragged me down.

A horde, yes. A dozen or less? No way.  We’re talking about a 400+ pound agile killing machine.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: blink on November 13, 2017, 10:38:13 PM
the hardest part to suspend belief about is that Negan just walks out there with his cohorts and no one shoots them when they all have a clear shot at it. 
  I'm liking the general tone of the season - much more upbeat etc, but it is getting harder to follow - who are all these people at the outposts - and what exactly is the overall plan? it seems scattered.

 Negan is great in the comics but it just hasn't carried over good enough to PG 13 rated TV. They need to kind of move on a bit i think. it just seems too cartoon-like now.  just my 2 cents.

Yeah, for me this was the point where the show completely jumped the shark.  So they refuse to take a wide open shot at 2-3 of the leaders of the saviors and Negan, but after they go inside they waste hundreds of bullets shooting out the high windows that a zombie isn't going to be able to go though to the the saviors (if that was the point, I am not sure.)

After that my 'do they thing the viewers are idiots' radar came up, and I don't even care if I see the show anymore.  In season 1, 2, and 3 this was great television.  The show I think needs to end, they are repeating themselves, and it has seriously gone down hill.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on November 13, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
the hardest part to suspend belief about is that Negan just walks out there with his cohorts and no one shoots them when they all have a clear shot at it. 
  I'm liking the general tone of the season - much more upbeat etc, but it is getting harder to follow - who are all these people at the outposts - and what exactly is the overall plan? it seems scattered.

 Negan is great in the comics but it just hasn't carried over good enough to PG 13 rated TV. They need to kind of move on a bit i think. it just seems too cartoon-like now.  just my 2 cents.

Well, you could also make the argument that Negan could have simply killed almost all of Rick's group that night he had them on their knees, but he didn't.

Yeah, I agree it's kind of stupid, but that's just how TV shows are lol.

I’m not buying that a dozen walkers in a muddy ditch could take down a full grown angry tiger.

The part I found funny is when Jerry comes in and practically slices the guy in half in a gruesome, violence scene, and people cheer and are like "yes, I expected it!", but then Shiva goes down and suddenly it's emotional terror and everyone is so emotional  :laugh:

I hated seeing her go, but I knew it was coming (like in comics), and I think the cast/crew wanted to save up by not having to use CGI anymore  :P
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 14, 2017, 08:56:11 AM
I’m not buying that a dozen walkers in a muddy ditch could take down a full grown angry tiger.

They can. These monsters are not afraid to just pin down anything alive, and would keep going unless their brains stop.

Shiva is strong and big, but she's going against a horde of hungry zombies who has no remorse and no fear. She might be able to take down a couple, but eventually she will be overwhelmed with the numbers, which is what happened.

Regardless, I didn't feel sad when the Kingdom fighters went down, but the Shiva death really dragged me down.

A horde, yes. A dozen or less? No way.  We’re talking about a 400+ pound agile killing machine.
have to agree in the sense that I would have expected Shiva to be able to get away.  instead the show just had her back into the gully and not try to escape. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 14, 2017, 08:58:55 AM
the hardest part to suspend belief about is that Negan just walks out there with his cohorts and no one shoots them when they all have a clear shot at it. 
  I'm liking the general tone of the season - much more upbeat etc, but it is getting harder to follow - who are all these people at the outposts - and what exactly is the overall plan? it seems scattered.

 Negan is great in the comics but it just hasn't carried over good enough to PG 13 rated TV. They need to kind of move on a bit i think. it just seems too cartoon-like now.  just my 2 cents.

Yeah, for me this was the point where the show completely jumped the shark.  So they refuse to take a wide open shot at 2-3 of the leaders of the saviors and Negan, but after they go inside they waste hundreds of bullets shooting out the high windows that a zombie isn't going to be able to go though to the the saviors (if that was the point, I am not sure.)

After that my 'do they thing the viewers are idiots' radar came up, and I don't even care if I see the show anymore.  In season 1, 2, and 3 this was great television.  The show I think needs to end, they are repeating themselves, and it has seriously gone down hill.

this is what bugged me about what I suppose was their plan.  Negan's right there for the taking and not even a shot fired at him until he's in the building.  no wonder Negan feels he's going to win the war and can control the 'sheep' in the civil communities.   
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on December 10, 2017, 10:41:08 PM
spoiler alert:


well that was a surprise -- biting Carl  -- I don't believe he's dead in the comics but since I'm not a reader, I could be wrong.  even though Carl's character grew on me the past couple of seasons, I still feel worse about Shiva's death.

Talking Dead dropping hints of an interesting finish for Carl when the season picks up in February
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on December 12, 2017, 05:56:53 PM
spoiler alert:


well that was a surprise -- biting Carl  -- I don't believe he's dead in the comics but since I'm not a reader, I could be wrong.  even though Carl's character grew on me the past couple of seasons, I still feel worse about Shiva's death.

Talking Dead dropping hints of an interesting finish for Carl when the season picks up in February

Oh don't you worry! We'll find out that the walker who bit Carl actually was wearing DENTURES, so the bite won't fully affect Carl and he'll end up surviving  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

But seriously, I DID NOT see that coming at all. Honestly kind of spoiled my mood at the end of the episode too. It's going to be rough for Rick now  :(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Rondo9 on December 12, 2017, 06:26:08 PM
Scott Gimple made a horrible decision for shock value.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on December 12, 2017, 07:01:55 PM
Scott Gimple made a horrible decision for shock value.

Then you realize the season resumes and that last sequence was just a dream  :P

(It's a joke, but with TWD.. who knows anymore)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 12, 2017, 07:02:15 PM
I threw in the towel after the Glenn dumpster thing. Has it just kept getting dumber?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Phantom255x on December 12, 2017, 07:08:03 PM
I threw in the towel after the Glenn dumpster thing. Has it just kept getting dumber?

Some parts are kind of "meh" now.. and it's dragging on a lot nowadays too.

I'm still watching and am a fan of the show, but I could honestly understand some people feeling disappointed now and "taking a break" from it.

The most recent death though (spoiler) was probably the most shocking thing the show has ever done, and it's a HUGE difference from the Comics (so I guess the show is essentially going it's own route now and no longer following the comics much after this current storyline).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: bdm860 on November 05, 2018, 09:56:49 AM
Well, time for me to throw in the towel.  Seems like most of you already have.

Last night was the "final episode" for Rick Grimes, and the ending and announcements afterwards were beyond ridiculous. 

You know the show is worried about ratings when every commercial all season has been about the "countdown to Rick Grimes final episodes."  The show went from anybody can die at anytime to announcing and promoting a character being written off to try to boost ratings.

And despite all this they're choosing to expand the universe even more?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Roy H. on November 05, 2018, 10:11:02 AM
Well, time for me to throw in the towel.  Seems like most of you already have.

Last night was the "final episode" for Rick Grimes, and the ending and announcements afterwards were beyond ridiculous. 

You know the show is worried about ratings when every commercial all season has been about the "countdown to Rick Grimes final episodes."  The show went from anybody can die at anytime to announcing and promoting a character being written off to try to boost ratings.

And despite all this they're choosing to expand the universe even more?

Yeah, it used to be must see TV.

Now, it’s “I’ll DVR it and watch it when I’m really bored”.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on November 05, 2018, 11:07:52 AM
Well, time for me to throw in the towel.  Seems like most of you already have.

Last night was the "final episode" for Rick Grimes, and the ending and announcements afterwards were beyond ridiculous. 

You know the show is worried about ratings when every commercial all season has been about the "countdown to Rick Grimes final episodes."  The show went from anybody can die at anytime to announcing and promoting a character being written off to try to boost ratings.

And despite all this they're choosing to expand the universe even more?

Yeah, it used to be must see TV.

Now, it’s “I’ll DVR it and watch it when I’m really bored”.
it's still the one show I'll watch live.  The acting is still excellent and some of the storylines are very good.

what disappointed me about this was that whole lead-up to Rick's final episode.  turns out to be a big con to get people interested in Rick movies on AMC.  they insisted his character was done with TWD but I find it hard to believe they'll feature him in films dedicated to his character and he's not trying to get back to Judith and Alexandria.

I will say this, I did like what they previewed with Judith.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: KGs Knee on November 05, 2018, 06:17:40 PM
I still watch this show, just not with any where near the fervor I used to.  It's definitely gone down hill in the quality of the storytelling, even if the acting is still quite good.

And I totally knew they weren't going to actually kill off Rick, but I don't have a problem with that.  I do wish they would have been a little less predictable, though, in how they wrote him off the show.  I am interested to see what the new direction of the show is going to be with Rick and Carl both gone now.  We'll see if TWD can do what most other shows have failed miserably at, and that's successfully reboot the show once the main character leaves.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Redz on November 14, 2018, 07:33:03 PM
Whassup with the talking zombie at the end of the last episode?

Walkie talkie?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: knuckleballer on November 14, 2018, 07:36:04 PM
They need to come to life starting with this game.

Oh sorry.  I thought this was a thread on the Celtics this season. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Birdman on November 14, 2018, 07:39:55 PM
They need to come to life starting with this game.

Oh sorry.  I thought this was a thread on the Celtics this season.
TP..that was great!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on March 24, 2019, 11:22:08 PM
ok - no one's posted on this season but rather than start a new thread, I'll see if anyone's still watching.

Spoiler if you haven't seen through the 3/24 episode;
I had heard that the Whisperers were going to end up killing 2 prime characters in the comics and the speculation was would they kill off the same 2 on the show.   have to say I'm a bit surprised both by who wasn't killed and by a couple that were.  for the most part, no one of real consequence except 2.  Thrilled they killed off that brat Henry.  tickled pink about it.  hated his character.  The one I'm surprised they killed off was Enid.  I'm surprised and disappointed her character is gone.  looking forward to seeing how they deal with these people.  Growing to want Alpha dead almost as much as I wanted Negan dead.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: slamtheking on August 12, 2019, 02:41:10 PM
so... just kicking this around rather than starting a new topic on the same show but just heard on Talking Dead that Kirkman abruptly ended the comic with an apparent surprise ending.  Anyone read the comics and if so, what was their takeaway from it?

haven't looked up the ending yet.  debating if I should --> don't want to spoil how the show may end but since this show isn't tightly following the comics any more, not sure how much knowing the end of the comics would spoil the end of the show