Gordon Hayward To Meet With Jazz, Heat, And Celtics In Coming Week

[Monkhouse]

The thing is people are quick to forget that Hayward tried leaving before; to the Hornets, and the Jazz matched his offer. He was already trying to leave, and was already on his way out, but I feel like the damage has been done. Yes, Jazz have tried to implement a more definitive scheme by bringing in more stronger players, but the Jazz doesn't really have that much flexibility, money, or the FO to pull off any drastic blockbuster moves.

Jazz is destined to end up as a top 3-5 seed next year, with plenty of regressions from playoff bound teams that are getting relegated to the lottery.

Thing is I'm not 100% convinced Hayward is going to stay in Jazz. He loves the city, he loves the people, but does he really believe the Jazz have a great future ahead of themselves?

We've seen what happens when teams don't give their franchise/Allstar players the love they deserve.

We've seen it  firsthand, what happens when Love was not given the designated player max, and Rubio was instead.

[liam]

Better schools and museums in Boston, you know, for kids!

[hodgy03038]

Just read this on ESPN that Danny's son is trying to undermine his Dad & the Celtics over Hayward...


Tanner Ainge tweets Gordon Hayward about possible 'millionaire's tax' in Massachusetts




http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19767673/ainge-family-public-tug-war-gordon-hayward

[Monkhouse]

Just read this on ESPN that Danny's son is trying to undermine his Dad & the Celtics over Hayward...


Tanner Ainge tweets Gordon Hayward about possible 'millionaire's tax' in Massachusetts




http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19767673/ainge-family-public-tug-war-gordon-hayward

I can imagine the phone call between father and son. 

[hwangjini_1]

hi, let me introduce myself. i am an enormously lazy poster who is about to ask an unreasonable favor of folks on cb who are more motivated, better informed, and hopefully not easily irked by lazy folks....such as me. 

what if the deal for george falls through (prichard does have a history of trying to "win" trades, and may not move off asking for the moon)?

would the celtics be able to clear salary space to sign both hayward and griffin?

i am sure somewhere buried in the labyrinths of past threads this might have been addressed. but my poor searching skills combined with my laziness have not turned them up.

thanks in advance and tps galore for any help here.

[hwangjini_1]

Just read this on ESPN that Danny's son is trying to undermine his Dad & the Celtics over Hayward...


Tanner Ainge tweets Gordon Hayward about possible 'millionaire's tax' in Massachusetts




http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19767673/ainge-family-public-tug-war-gordon-hayward

are we to assume that hayward's agent was unaware of this tax?

[hodgy03038]

Just read this on ESPN that Danny's son is trying to undermine his Dad & the Celtics over Hayward...


Tanner Ainge tweets Gordon Hayward about possible 'millionaire's tax' in Massachusetts




http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19767673/ainge-family-public-tug-war-gordon-hayward

are we to assume that hayward's agent was unaware of this tax?

I do not know but this is obviously a big blow and a strike against us with every free agent in every sport.

[MetroGlobe]

would the celtics be able to clear salary space to sign both hayward and griffin?

No.  George and Hayward OR George and Griffin are only possible because George would come through a trade.  But Hayward and Griffin would be free agent signings, which means you need that much cap space to do them.

[CelticsElite]

Just read this on ESPN that Danny's son is trying to undermine his Dad & the Celtics over Hayward...


Tanner Ainge tweets Gordon Hayward about possible 'millionaire's tax' in Massachusetts




http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19767673/ainge-family-public-tug-war-gordon-hayward

are we to assume that hayward's agent was unaware of this tax?

I do not know but this is obviously a big blow and a strike against us with every free agent in every sport.

There is an easy solution for Gordon Hayward to play for the Celtics. Move to very southern New Hampshire where there is no State Income or Sales Tax and about a 35-40 minute drive to work (he won't be doing it during rush hour).

[Fan from VT]

I really cannot believe that at player who is about to sign 30m per year contract will choose his destination based on the 1.5 less on state tax and not based to the best chances to compete

If that is the case then i ll be happy if we don't get this kind of player

1.5 million dollars a year is an awful lot of money.  I mean OKC gave up on James Harden for less than that per year.  This notion that money isn't a factor is silly.  Money is a large factor in everything.  Sports are a business.  Period. 

And no one is suggesting that Hayward would choose Miami because he could save money (I mean he could stay in Utah and make it up by signing a contract with bigger raises and adding the year), but money could certainly give a team an edge over a different team.  I mean if he basically thinks Boston and Miami are close to equal, then the extra 1.5 - 2 million a year, probably is the difference.

I would kill for this kind of money. And 99% of the people would as well. BUT...

If you earn 200 million in your career, this is a tiny portion. So I don't think it should be any kind of factor.

Since the NBA is a multi state league, I'd actually like to see the NBA (and all sports, actually) pool all salary money and retain an average income tax that the league pays on behalf of all its players. In other words, the players would be signing for contracts for non-taxable income, because the league held onto the balance, and paid it out to each state from the league savings, to cover the different state income taxes. Not to get the players paid more, so their salaries would go down to make up the difference, but so that players didn't have to weigh different state income taxes and didn't have to budget for being traded from Texas to LA for example.

But it makes too much sense and would take some math, so it won't happen.

[Ory]

It's actually an international league where everyone has to pay both US federal and Canadian federal taxes on top of over a dozen states, Ontario and D.C.

CPA's must love NBA players (MLB, NHL, and football players too.)

[jpotter33]

would the celtics be able to clear salary space to sign both hayward and griffin?

No.  George and Hayward OR George and Griffin are only possible because George would come through a trade.  But Hayward and Griffin would be free agent signings, which means you need that much cap space to do them.

No, I actually do think it's doable to sign one of them via free agency and do a sign-and-trade for the other. However, it's much less beneficial to us than completing a trade for George, because we'd have to add much more salary to make it work with their additional 10+ million in salary, meaning more than likely one of Tatum or Brown and perhaps even Smart goes in a sign-and-trade for someone like Griffin/Hayward.

[td450]

Just read this on ESPN that Danny's son is trying to undermine his Dad & the Celtics over Hayward...


Tanner Ainge tweets Gordon Hayward about possible 'millionaire's tax' in Massachusetts




http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19767673/ainge-family-public-tug-war-gordon-hayward

are we to assume that hayward's agent was unaware of this tax?

I do not know but this is obviously a big blow and a strike against us with every free agent in every sport.

There is an easy solution for Gordon Hayward to play for the Celtics. Move to very southern New Hampshire where there is no State Income or Sales Tax and about a 35-40 minute drive to work (he won't be doing it during rush hour).

If you earn money in Massachusetts, you are subject to income taxes here, no matter where you live

[celticinorlando]

I am guessing Boston meets with him Sunday:

Marc Stein‏Verified account @ESPNSteinLine  1m1 minute ago
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 League sources confirm Miami/Boston/Utah is indeed the order on visits Hayward has scheduled once free agency starts Saturday at 12:01 AM ET

[Phantom255x]

I am guessing Boston meets with him Sunday:

Marc Stein‏Verified account @ESPNSteinLine  1m1 minute ago
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 League sources confirm Miami/Boston/Utah is indeed the order on visits Hayward has scheduled once free agency starts Saturday at 12:01 AM ET

TP for the update.

That's fine for me, because if it was on Tuesday, I would feel this drags out and I tend to agree with others who have the issue that, in that 4 day period, while we wait for Hayward's decision, other potential FA targets could get scooped up.