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Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2009, 12:47:31 PM »

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What exactly did TA contribute to our 2008 tittle run? He didn't even have a towel waving moment ala M.L. Carr.

Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2009, 12:50:10 PM »

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What exactly did TA contribute to our 2008 tittle run? He didn't even have a towel waving moment ala M.L. Carr.

He had that sick alley-oop from Eddie with 2 minutes left in game 6 after we were up 39.

That's about all I can muster.
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Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2009, 12:55:33 PM »

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What exactly did TA contribute to our 2008 tittle run? He didn't even have a towel waving moment ala M.L. Carr.

He had that sick alley-oop from Eddie with 2 minutes left in game 6 after we were up 39.

That's about all I can muster.
He played some solid minutes in game 5. Nothing great but he did okay in 11 minutes: 1 ast, 1 stl, 7 points on 3-4 shooting.

Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2009, 12:58:26 PM »

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What exactly did TA contribute to our 2008 tittle run? He didn't even have a towel waving moment ala M.L. Carr.

He played in 75 games during the regular season (including 11 starts) averaging 18.3 minutes/game. He didn't play in the playoffs, but you only play the top 3 wings in the playoffs. TA will be useful during the regular season to limit Ray/Paul's minutes and fill in when injuries occur (Daniels is pretty injury prone).

Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2009, 01:19:29 PM »

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tony will either be the 4th SG or third SF....nothing more than 5 minutes a night until they trade his contract for someone come trade deadline...unless he is shipped out sooner

Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2009, 01:24:46 PM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?

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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2009, 01:28:48 PM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?
I completely disagree.

We don't win Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals without Eddie.

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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2009, 01:29:37 PM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?
I completely disagree.

We don't win Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals without Eddie.

TP..eddie pulled his weight in the playoffs

Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2009, 03:29:59 AM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?
Was that the game when he came cold off the bench, and he hardly played in the 4th quarter if at all?  They just brought him in for a desparate attempt at adding another 3 point shooter.  I believe everyone else was covered and he was our last option (better than Rondo at least).  I'm not sure if we're talking about the same game, but i remember him air balling for this reason.  If he was in the game for more of the 4th quarter i doubt we would've lost.
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Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2009, 06:17:51 AM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?
I completely disagree.

We don't win Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals without Eddie.

Absolutely agree. The same can be said for game 7 of the celts/bulls series, and a few of the orlando games too.
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Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2009, 09:46:43 AM »

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The problem with Daniels is that he cannot be on the court at the same time as Rondo.

Daniels and House will be an effective platoon, teaming for 18 minutes per game in the back court. I really like it, but it does not help us at small forward.
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2009, 09:48:55 AM »

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The problem with Daniels is that he cannot be on the court at the same time as Rondo.

Daniels and House will be an effective platoon, teaming for 18 minutes per game in the back court. I really like it, but it does not help us at small forward.

Why not?  Chances are they will be on the court together along with Pierce of Ray.

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2009, 11:44:05 AM »

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Daniels and House will be an effective platoon, teaming for 18 minutes per game in the back court. I really like it, but it does not help us at small forward.

Before Tony Allen got hurt last season, the Celtics got him almost 20mpg using Allen/Allen and TA/PP combinations.  It seems reasonable that they will do the same thing with Daniels and mix in a few minutes with random point guard or Pruitt/House/Daniels on the floor.  If Giddens or Walker doesn't get traded and can contribute five minutes per game, then Ray and Paul can easily get a combined 24-28 minutes of rest per game, which translates to as little 34 mpg for each.  During the playoffs, if someone like Giddens/Walker hasn't stepped it up, then they get dropped from the regular rotation and RA/PP play a few more minutes per game.  If you get a second-year contributor, then maybe Daniels loses minutes minutes in the playoffs as Doc rides his best players a bit longer.

The main worry is that Daniels is an injury risk.  I think that Tony Allen being out was a bigger factor than trying to compensate for KG being out when Paul Pierce looked tired at the end of last season.
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Re: What Daniels does to our bench players
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2009, 01:19:23 PM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?
I completely disagree.

We don't win Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals without Eddie.

We don't win Game 4 without Posey. The Posey/Pierce small lineup got us back in that game.

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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2009, 12:15:45 AM »

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If they package Eddie up with a deal, that's going to hurt us more then help. Eddie's points ALWAYS mean the difference between a W or L and his shots usually start our leads.

Funny I see it as Eddies points are usually the difference between a narrow win, and a blowout. He's almost never the difference maker in terms of winning games and losing them.

So true, i completely agree. Remember when Eddie took the gamewinning shot and air-balled it?
I completely disagree.

We don't win Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals without Eddie.

We don't win Game 4 without Posey. The Posey/Pierce small lineup got us back in that game.
The Posey/Pierce/Ray/House small line-up was the best thing in the world.
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