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« on: May 16, 2019, 03:22:48 PM »

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier. 
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Re: Combine Measuremnts 2019
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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

Those Bol measurements! He's giving away 40-50 pounds against guys like Embiid, and as you say, his center of gravity isn't all that low. They'll back him down under the rim and dunk on his head.

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

Those Bol measurements! He's giving away 40-50 pounds against guys like Embiid, and as you say, his center of gravity isn't all that low. They'll back him down under the rim and dunk on his head.

Why would Bol be guarding Embiid?

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 03:50:07 PM »

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

Those Bol measurements! He's giving away 40-50 pounds against guys like Embiid, and as you say, his center of gravity isn't all that low. They'll back him down under the rim and dunk on his head.

Why would Bol be guarding Embiid?

You're not playing him at center?  Are you playing zone or is he chasing Tobias Harris out on the perimeter? His lateral mobility, for a PF, is ... not good.

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Bol seems like he is going to be a bust to me.

I would take a chance in the mid to late 20s that he can gain 80 pounds. But I just dont see it

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

no zion?

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

no zion?

I don't think he'll get measured.. There is no doubt he goes #1. None.

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 04:19:29 PM »

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

no zion?

I don't think he'll get measured.. There is no doubt he goes #1. None.

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just curious

he is only 6'6' and can really jump

but if his wingspan is only like 6'9

that would be a little troublesome

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2019, 04:26:08 PM »

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

no zion?

I don't think he'll get measured.. There is no doubt he goes #1. None.

true

just curious

he is only 6'6' and can really jump

but if his wingspan is only like 6'9

that would be a little troublesome

It was reported at Duke that his wingspan was 6'10. Nothing impressive, Zion will need to go the Blake Griffin route and learn how to play make, and handle the ball more if he wants to become great; something that Blake could've been if not for injuries.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 05:44:26 PM »

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a coupple players of note (guy I like who reaffirmed my thoughts)

good

KZ Okpala 6'7.25" w/o shoes 7'1.75 ws 210 lbs 4.6%bf. At his age its easy to see him adding weight and having the size to play a small ball 4 role.

Louis King 6'6.25" w/o shoes 7'0.25" ws 195lbs. Great size for a wing

bad

Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

Bol Bol 7'0.25" w/o shoes 7'7" wingspan 208lbs. Injury concerns aside, Length is amazing but high hips along with only weighing 208 lbs scares me. In contrast Bamba last year was 1.5" shorter with 1% lower body fat and about 20lbs heavier.

Those Bol measurements! He's giving away 40-50 pounds against guys like Embiid, and as you say, his center of gravity isn't all that low. They'll back him down under the rim and dunk on his head.

Why would Bol be guarding Embiid?

You're not playing him at center?  Are you playing zone or is he chasing Tobias Harris out on the perimeter? His lateral mobility, for a PF, is ... not good.

Pick your poison. I do think his lateral quickness is better than it seems. He covers ground quickly even though he moves slowly. Not sure he has the commitment though. I just don't see him guarding big centers down low either.

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his center of gravity isn't all that low

Most good NBA players have long legs and short torsos, as this build allows you to jump because of longer leverage of the long legs, so I would not be worried about a low center of gravity this is not sumo wrestling.

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Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

His athletic ability is very good so he might be able to counter that it with his determination and playstyle but to me his wingspan is a bigger concern than his weight.   Also, Rodman who was also 6"8" weighed 220 lbs.   Clarke knows he can't guard fives but he can guard 1-4.
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his center of gravity isn't all that low

Most good NBA players have long legs and short torsos, as this build allows you to jump because of longer leverage of the long legs, so I would not be worried about a low center of gravity this is not sumo wrestling.

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Clarke 6'7.25" w/o shoes 6'8.25" ws 207lbs. As an older player in the class his weight concerns me just as much as wingspan. The narrative that he is a potential small ball 5 needs to change. He will need to shoot the corner 3 and become a 3-D wing. He still has alot of potential and could thrive on the right team.

His athletic ability is very good so he might be able to counter that it with his determination and playstyle but to me his wingspan is a bigger concern than his weight.   Also, Rodman who was also 6"8" weighed 220 lbs.   Clarke knows he can't guard fives but he can guard 1-4.

I’m guessing Clarke will have to be a four because of his weight and his frame. He’s a pogo stick, tho (34” standing, 40” max vertical) with excellent positioning and timing.  So I think he can help with rim protection.

Also think he’ll be able to get off his shot. His midrange accuracy is excellent - Horford level - which should translate. His finishing at the rim was elite in college; I expect that to drop off some against longer, stronger players in the pros, but i can see him attacking closeouts and playing in space very effectively - on the break or when defenses are broken down by rotations.

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