Celticsstrong 2021 Historical Draft - VOTES ARE IN

[Moranis]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Sharman was another one of those old timers like Mikan that is hard to place in these things, but was obviously very good.  But all those reasons you don't like Mikan, apply to Sharman, and unlike Mikan, Sharman wasn't the best player in the world.

[gouki88]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Sharman was another one of those old timers like Mikan that is hard to place in these things, but was obviously very good.  But all those reasons you don't like Mikan, apply to Sharman, and unlike Mikan, Sharman wasn't the best player in the world.

But he was a Celtic

[Somebody]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Joe Caldwell? Oh wow. I even thought of him prior to the draft & meant to double check his draft slot. Agh but I forgot. Darn it. I would've drafted him.

I didn't have Bill Sharman on my list. I blew that one.

I was touch and go whether to go with Batum or Kersey for my last pick.

Archie Clark was my choice for best undrafted player until I saw Bill Sharman and Joe Caldwell. I'll bump him to #3.

Dale Ellis? Not much of a defender, but man could he score.

[Roy H.]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Sharman was another one of those old timers like Mikan that is hard to place in these things, but was obviously very good.  But all those reasons you don't like Mikan, apply to Sharman, and unlike Mikan, Sharman wasn't the best player in the world.

I don’t like Milan because his biggest talent was being big.  He was a 40% shooter at center.  The basketball he played was barely recognizable.

Sharman was small by today’s standards, but he had actual basketball skills.

[Who]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Joe Caldwell? Oh wow. I even thought of him prior to the draft & meant to double check his draft slot. Agh but I forgot. Darn it. I would've drafted him.

I didn't have Bill Sharman on my list. I blew that one.

I was touch and go whether to go with Batum or Kersey for my last pick.

Archie Clark was my choice for best undrafted player until I saw Bill Sharman and Joe Caldwell. I'll bump him to #3.

Dale Ellis? Not much of a defender, but man could he score.

Yeah, he was another one. Doesn't make my top 3 here but he was a guy who I forgot when I made my last pick. I had him on my SG list of options but not SF.

Dale Ellis would've been a better 3rd string SF than Batum. If I had of thought of him in time, I would've picked Dale Ellis. His scoring arsenal would translate so well to today's game.

[Moranis]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Sharman was another one of those old timers like Mikan that is hard to place in these things, but was obviously very good.  But all those reasons you don't like Mikan, apply to Sharman, and unlike Mikan, Sharman wasn't the best player in the world.

I don’t like Milan because his biggest talent was being big.  He was a 40% shooter at center.  The basketball he played was barely recognizable.

Sharman was small by today’s standards, but he had actual basketball skills.

Mikan shot 40.4% in a time when the league average was 35% (he was a 78% foul shooter).  Sharman only shot 42.6% for his career in a time when the league average was around 39%.  And they had overlap in their career as they both played in several of those early 50's season.  I just think the criticism of Mikan is misplaced if you don't also hold the same criticism to guys like Sharman.  It really wasn't until the very late 50's and early 60's when the league started to resemble a more modern game.  Heck, the league average FG% didn't even hit at least 45% until the 69-70 season (and didn't hit at least 43% until 62-63).   So even in the 60's it was a different type of basketball then today.  It is just strange to hold only specific players to certain standards and not apply those standards to everyone.  Mikan was better than Sharman.   

[Somebody]

Just for fun here are some of the players that were not drafted

PG's - Nick Van Exel, Archie Clark, Darrell Armstrong, Lou Williams, Doc Rivers
SG's - Joe Caldwell, Eddie Johnson, Nate McMillan
SF's - Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerome Kersey, Rick Fox, James Posey
PF's - Bill Bridges, Nikola Mirotic, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Loy Vaught
C's - Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Nikola Pekovic, Hassan Whiteside, Dale Davis, Jamaal Magloire

I'm sure I missed a few, but in other words, I think we overall did a pretty darn good job drafting as there isn't a whole lot of talent left on the board.

I listed a couple of my favorites above.  Historically, Bill Sharman has got to be the best undrafted player.  7x All NBA.

A couple of other centers: Hot Rod Williams, Kevin Duckworth

Sharman was another one of those old timers like Mikan that is hard to place in these things, but was obviously very good.  But all those reasons you don't like Mikan, apply to Sharman, and unlike Mikan, Sharman wasn't the best player in the world.

I don’t like Milan because his biggest talent was being big.  He was a 40% shooter at center.  The basketball he played was barely recognizable.

Sharman was small by today’s standards, but he had actual basketball skills.

Mikan shot 40.4% in a time when the league average was 35% (he was a 78% foul shooter).  Sharman only shot 42.6% for his career in a time when the league average was around 39%.  And they had overlap in their career as they both played in several of those early 50's season.  I just think the criticism of Mikan is misplaced if you don't also hold the same criticism to guys like Sharman.  It really wasn't until the very late 50's and early 60's when the league started to resemble a more modern game.  Heck, the league average FG% didn't even hit at least 45% until the 69-70 season (and didn't hit at least 43% until 62-63).   So even in the 60's it was a different type of basketball then today.  It is just strange to hold only specific players to certain standards and not apply those standards to everyone.  Mikan was better than Sharman.

The jump in '69-'70 was probably due to the NBA using a new ball with panels that were more shooting-friendly (at least for me, you can somewhat try this out by playing with those Nike Elite/Competition balls with panels similar to the old NBA ball):

https://twitter.com/ElGee35/status/1317241647961264128

[gouki88]

The votes have been counted!

In last place, with 20 points...



The San Antonio Spurs, managed by Darth Yoda!

[gouki88]

In ninth place overall, with 23 points...



The Houston Rockets, managed by Somebody!

[gouki88]

In eighth place, with 32 points...



The Washington Wizards, managed by Celtic Fan Forever

[gouki88]

In seventh place, with 42 points...



The Indiana Pacers, managed by GreenFaith!

This team was probably the most polarising. Some had Indy in the top 3, some in the middle, and two had Indy as their last-ranked team. Really interesting.

[gouki88]

In sixth place, with 52 points...



The Phoenix Suns, managed by nickagneta!

[gouki88]

The top 5 was insanely tight. 7 votes between #1 and #5

[gouki88]

In fifth place, with 63 points overall...



The Toronto Raptors, managed by Moranis

[gouki88]

In fourth place, with 65 points...



The Chicago Bulls, managed by Who!