Brown, Celtics agree on 4 years-115 million

[RPGenerate]

Bit skeptical he's ever going to be worth that much, but I hope he proves me wrong.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Favorite Celtic. I'm glad he is staying.

Apparently Ainge thought he was worth more than Hield.

[ScoobyDoo]

Anyone know if there are any incentives in this contract? For example it's a $90 MM deal with $25 MM in incentives?

[slamtheking]

a bit more than I figured but it's not my money.

no distractions during the season with this contract settled.  Tatum must be licking his chops for the next offseason.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

True, but Bobby Manning tweeted this, and I agree with him:

Better to cement trust, loyalty now than fester bad vibes into next July only to pay him the same thing. #Celtics were never getting a discount on him.

I know we went that route with Smart, but Jaylen clearly has a much higher ceiling and a lot of other guys around him were getting their extensions (Hield, now Sabonis, etc.)

I get it, but I think there are ways to earn Jaylen's trust without committing to this now.

JB himself said that he wanted to "earn it", then Danny should have let him. Tell him that he admires the fact that he wants to earn a bigger paycheck, and commit to him after the season. Tell him any offer he gets in Free Agency will be matched.

[blink]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

It seems like a lot I know. 

But if he gets a max offer then we are at 170 for 5 right?  So there is some savings if DA really thinks that Jaylen was going to get a full 5 year max after this year.

well really you are comparing the first 4 years. If the Celtics waited till next offseason the max they could offer (at the current projected cap number) would have been 130/4.

oh ok, I didn't know it would only be 4 years max if another team offered in RFA...
so still saving a little bit, 3.75 million a year.

[positivitize]

Trust in Ainge.

[ETNCeltics]

Look at what Murray got. It's just the business. I was figuring more like 4/$100M, but it's not a terrible contract. The Celtics don't live in a vacuum. They haven't been ridiculously overpaying players. They have a good idea for Jaylens FMV and what other teams think of him.

[mmmmm]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

Yeah.  I don't see how his home-town Atlanta wouldn't have made a max offer sheet for him.

This is the price to retain this player in this market.  Simple as that.

[Birdman]

Bit skeptical he's ever going to be worth that much, but I hope he proves me wrong.

Same here

[Atzar]

That’s a lot of money.  But there was a time that many people doubted the Smart extension, too.  Hopefully Brown proves worth it.

[keevsnick]

Browns deal has no team or player options:

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1186372592866742272

Also worth noting this 115 million number came directly form his agent, so its entirely possible a chunk of that is incentives. Agents always report the largest number.

[boscel33]

Whoo hoo 

[Celtics4ever]

I think we 've overpaid but I hope Brown proves me wrong as I don't see him as a max player given his present performance level.

[mmmmm]

Don’t know that we had a choice really. Hopefully Brown proves to be worth it.

IDK, man.

If we are willing to shell that for Jaylen, wouldn't it be better if we just have him test the RFA market and match any offer?

A bad/mediocre team with cap space would have offered him max in all likelihood.

In which case, we should just match. If we are willing to go $115 million, surely we can go for the max if it comes to that.

The flip side, is if the market is soft on him, we could get him for his fair value.

IDK. I mean, I'm stoked that we are keeping Jaylen, but man, I think we could have played the negotiations better.

It seems like a lot I know. 

But if he gets a max offer then we are at 170 for 5 right?  So there is some savings if DA really thinks that Jaylen was going to get a full 5 year max after this year.

well really you are comparing the first 4 years. If the Celtics waited till next offseason the max they could offer (at the current projected cap number) would have been 130/4.

oh ok, I didn't know it would only be 4 years max if another team offered in RFA...
so still saving a little bit, 3.75 million a year.

This is not quite correct.

If Brown and the Celtics had waited for him to reach Restricted Free Agency next Summer, then the most any _other_ team could have offered him would have been a 4 year deal with a max Base Year Compensation of 25% of the salary cap and 5% x BYC raises.  With a cap estimate of 116M, that would be a total package of 120M over 4 years.

But the Celtics themselves still could have offered a 5 year, 25% Max with 8% raises.  That would be a 154M package over 5 years.

All those numbers are moot now, of course.