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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #180 on: June 26, 2018, 04:04:11 PM »

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You have to admit though, a lot of the smaller/weaker teams in this World Cup have actually done really well and defied expectations. Even the ones that were eliminated without a win have actually put up some good fights and didn't just fold.

I feel bad for Nigeria. They played a helluva game and almost pulled off the draw, but ARG just found a way to break through late (that's just what good, experienced teams do). But Nigeria should hold their heads high after this game, and from this WC overall.

That said, this Argentina team DOES NOT scare anyone to be honest. I think France beats them.

So as of now at least, Round of 16 games are:

Portugal vs. Uruguay
Russia vs. Spain
Argentina vs. France
Croatia vs. Denmark

A lot of intriguing games to be honest  ;D

Also, did anyone realize that, if Brazil finish say, first in their group and Germany finished 2nd, then we could see a Brazil vs. Germany matchup EARLY in the tournament (Round of 16)  :o  8)
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #181 on: June 26, 2018, 04:15:20 PM »

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Argentina are so lucky to get through this group.

I feel sorry for Nigeria. I would've liked them to go through.

Do you think they missed that Marcos Rojo handball call?

Honestly, that wasn't a deliberate handball, which is the key there.

He first headed the ball and then hit on his hand. It wasn't a penalty... To be honest neither was the one awarded. This happens in every corner kick.

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You have to admit though, a lot of the smaller/weaker teams in this World Cup have actually done really well and defied expectations. Even the ones that were eliminated without a win have actually put up some good fights and didn't just fold.

It is easier for them to be prepared for the group stage. Top teams have more tired players and they aim to go further so their training and conditioning is planned accordingly. Moreover top teams have to face tight defenses which is never easy



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i somewhat agree .Argentina was bad. But that game for Nigeria was a final and against a bad team they didn't do anything! When it mattered they choked. They had only one decent chance. they blew their chance and i can't feel bad about them.

Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #182 on: June 26, 2018, 04:15:20 PM »

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Argentina are so lucky to get through this group.

I feel sorry for Nigeria. I would've liked them to go through.

Do you think they missed that Marcos Rojo handball call?

Honestly, that wasn't a deliberate handball, which is the key there.

Yeah, I thought it wasn't a handball too.

I'm just looking at it in hindsight, if that was given, my God. Solid win for Argentina. Probably didn't deserve to win, but hey, they got thru.

Now it's time for them to reap their reward, a date with France  ;D.
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #183 on: June 27, 2018, 11:53:52 AM »

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Wow, SK gets that goal back on VAR..

Good call too, he was onsides from what I saw.

Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #184 on: June 27, 2018, 11:56:34 AM »

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Wow, SK gets that goal back on VAR..

Good call too, he was onsides from what I saw.

Anf even if he was, the ball came off a German player, it would have counted.

Man, Mexico owes South Kore a big one.
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #185 on: June 27, 2018, 11:57:41 AM »

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Accidental double post.
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #186 on: June 27, 2018, 12:00:09 PM »

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Germany out in the groups, I did not expect that.

Glad Mexico didn't get knocked out with two wins. Always crushing when that happens to a team.

Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #187 on: June 27, 2018, 12:05:20 PM »

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Thank God this is finally over. Totally deserved. Fifty minutes of good football over three games just isn't enough.

First order of business: thank Löw for his years of service and find a new national team coach. Fourteen years is enough. I can't watch this crap anymore without getting aggravated.

The offense was in shambles. Sloppy passes into empty space, slow and plodding movement, lots of technical mistakes in the 1-on-1s. Seriously, there were a good 20 minutes in the second half without a single good pass in the final third. Not that the defense was any better, which allowed one stupid counter after another.

Again, none of this was completely unexpected. They had a string of at least ten bad games in the build-up to the WC. The team assured us they'd be ready when it matters, and although the concerns were reasonable, we gave them the benefit of the doubt due to their past success.

That's the one good thing that can come out of all this: that they can't hide behind their 2014 success anymore and that the reasonable concerns can now finally be taken seriously.
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #188 on: June 27, 2018, 12:23:04 PM »

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Thank God this is finally over. Totally deserved. Fifty minutes of good football over three games just isn't enough.

First order of business: thank Löw for his years of service and find a new national team coach. Fourteen years is enough. I can't watch this crap anymore without getting aggravated.

The offense was in shambles. Sloppy passes into empty space, slow and plodding movement, lots of technical mistakes in the 1-on-1s. Seriously, there were a good 20 minutes in the second half without a single good pass in the final third. Not that the defense was any better, which allowed one stupid counter after another.

Again, none of this was completely unexpected. They had a string of at least ten bad games in the build-up to the WC. The team assured us they'd be ready when it matters, and although the concerns were reasonable, we gave them the benefit of the doubt due to their past success.

That's the one good thing that can come out of all this: that they can't hide behind their 2014 success anymore and that the reasonable concerns can now finally be taken seriously.

1. Just blame it on Mesut Ozil. Like every body does.

2. Mats Hummels is going to be haunted by that missed chance. Forever.

3. I still dont get why Low left out Leroy Sane. That offense needed a guy like him to spark something. That may have bit them back in their behinds.
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #189 on: June 27, 2018, 12:56:37 PM »

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I can't believe Germany lost to SK. Way too many Mexico fans in Los Angeles, but hope they get knocked out in the Round of 16 lol.

Now I want England to go all the way!


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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #190 on: June 27, 2018, 01:12:59 PM »

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The day has thus far worked out about as well as possible for my fandom (without the US).  My brother-in-law is Mexican (thus my niece and nephew are half Mexican) and the two closest exchange students my family had are from Sweden and Brazil, so those have been the 3 countries I've been rooting the most for.  Sweden and Mexico are in, now Brazil just needs to take care of business for a perfect day.
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #191 on: June 27, 2018, 01:16:14 PM »

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The day has thus far worked out about as well as possible for my fandom (without the US).  My brother-in-law is Mexican (thus my niece and nephew are half Mexican) and the two closest exchange students my family had are from Sweden and Brazil, so those have been the 3 countries I've been rooting the most for.  Sweden and Mexico are in, now Brazil just needs to take care of business for a perfect day.

Brazil vs Mexico would absolutely be epic at your place, I reckon. . .
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #192 on: June 27, 2018, 01:18:02 PM »

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Not being directly involved to this group I loved they way the games went. I can't say the same about the Germans watching it with me but they were honest... Germany sucked. Even Hummels said it himself. They haven't had a game in the last year.

Rebuild time I guess....

BTW I wish Serbia performs the miracle today....



Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #193 on: June 27, 2018, 01:43:32 PM »

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1. Just blame it on Mesut Ozil. Like every body does.

2. Mats Hummels is going to be haunted by that missed chance. Forever.

3. I still dont get why Low left out Leroy Sane. That offense needed a guy like him to spark something. That may have bit them back in their behinds.

I know you're being sarcastic, but this isn't on Özil (although he also played like crap). The entire team was bad today, which means it's on the coach. The mentality of the team is just infuriating, and has been for a long time now.

I just saw a video analysis by former Bundesliga coach Stanislawski on german TV, and it was even worse than I remembered. It's like several players didn't even participate. Nobody wanted the ball, nobody made that extra step to get into a position were he could receive the ball from the ballhandler. Lots of beautiful fancy passes into nowhere.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I'm not sure Sane would have changed anything. Sane has twelve caps to his name, and not a single one of those games was good. Some were downright horrific. The argument to leave him at home was that Germany would face mostly teams who would try to park the bus, and Löw wanted to play a slow, methodical possession style to counter that, which really doesn't suit Sane's style.

Yeah, we did play a slow, methodical possession style. Just not a very good one... which, again, is on Löw. Then again, Germany also has a serious talent issue, right now. Many of the younger players just aren't as talented as the previous generation. I mean, when was the last time Germany produced a striker of international calibre? Gomez, twelve years ago? Does he even count?
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Re: 2018 World Cup
« Reply #194 on: June 28, 2018, 04:36:12 AM »

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Hindsight is 20/20, but I'm not sure Sane would have changed anything. Sane has twelve caps to his name, and not a single one of those games was good. Some were downright horrific.

That is true. One player couldn't have saved Germany
But imho not calling him made the old guard feel complacent.


The argument to leave him at home was that Germany would face mostly teams who would try to park the bus, and Löw wanted to play a slow, methodical possession style to counter that, which really doesn't suit Sane's style.

Against parked busses you need wingers who can go one on one too. 


Anyway , to day ww hope for engalnd to finish second and follow the easiest path. Although it is a given that Southgate will win it!!

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