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Hornets (24-20) at Celtics (23-22) Game #46 1/19/22
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Charlotte Hornets (24-20) at Boston Celtics (23-22)
Wednesday, January 19, 2022
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #46 Home Game #24
TV: NBCSB, BSSE-CHA, NBA-LP
Radio:  WBZ-FM, WFNE
TD Garden




Probable Starters
PG SG SF PF C
PG: Dennis Schroder
SG: Jaylen Brown
SF:  Jayson Tatum
PF:  Al Horford
C:   Robert Williams III

Celtics Reserves
Bruno Fernando
Enes Kanter
Romeo Langford
Payton Pritchard
Josh Richardson
Grant Williams

Injuries

Marcus Smart (covid) out
Aaron Nesmith (ankle) out

Two-Way Players
Sam Hauser
Brodric Thomas

Head Coach

Ime Udoka




Probable Starters
PGSGSFPFC
PG:   LaMelo Ball
SG:  Terry Rozier
SF:  Gordon Hayward
PF:  Miles Bridges
C:   Mason Plumlee

Hornets Reserves
James Bouknight
Vernon Carey, Jr
Kai Jones
Cody Martin
Jalen McDaniels
Nick Richards
Ish Smith
JT Thor
PJ Washington

Injuries
Kelly Oubre, Jr  (covid) questionable

Two-Way Players
Arnoldas Kulboka
Scottie Lewis 

Head Coach
James Borrego

Game Notes
The Celtics host the Charlotte Hornets for the 2nd of 4 meetings between these two teams this season.  The Celtics won the first meeting 140-129 in overtime on October 25.  That game was in Charlotte.  They will meet once more in Boston on February 2 and again in Charlotte on March 9.  The Celtics won the series 2-1 last season.  The Celtics are 69-44 all time against the Hornet and they are 39-17 all time at home.

The Celtics have moved back up to 10th in the East after their win over the Pelicans on Monday.  They have won their last 2 games and 4 of their last 5. They are 15-8 at home and 7-3 in their last 10 games.  They are 16-12 against other Eastern Conference teams.   The Celtics are tied with 9th place Toronto and half a game behind the 8th place Wizards.  They are also 1.5 games behind the 7th place Charlotte Hornets. 

The Hornets are in 7th place in the East.  They won their last game and they have won 5 of their last 6 games.  They are 12-14 on the road and 7-3 in their last 10 games.   They are 16-10 against other Eastern Conference teams.  They are 1 game ahead of 8th place Washington and 1.5 games behind 6th place Philadelphia.  This game could be big for positioning in the standings. 

The Celtics are playing in the third game of a four game home stand.  They won the first game in the home stand over the Chicago Bulls 114-112.  They followed that with a 104-92 win over the New Orleans Pelicans.   They will close out the home stand on Friday against the Portland Trailblazers.   They will then travel to Washington for a matinee game on Sunday before returning home to face the Kings on Tuesday.  The Hornets are playing in the second game of a 2 game road trip.  They won the first game 97-87 over the New York Knicks on Monday.

Both teams are very close to full strength. Marcus Smart has missed the last 4 games due to health and safety protocols. He is now out of the protocols but is out for this game for conditioning reasons.  Robert Williams is expected to play after missing the last game for the birth of his son.

  Aaron Nesmith is out after rolling his ankle in the 4th quarter of Monday's game.  Wednesday began with a trade of Juancho Hernangomez for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier.  Both Bol and Dozier are injured so won't be on the active roster even after the trade is finalized.  Kelly Oubre, Jr is questionable for the Hornets due to health and safety protocols after missing the last 4 games. He will be a game time decision.

Key Matchups
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Al Horford vs Miles Bridges
Bridges has been playing very well for the Hornets.  He is averaging 20.0 points, 7.3 rebounds and 3.6 assists.  He is shooting 48.0% from the field and 32.5% from beyond the arc.  He is coming off a 38 point game against the Knicks on Monday.  He put up 25 points and 10 rebounds in the first game against the Celtics. 

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Dennis Schroder vs LaMelo Ball
Last year's Rookie of the Year has played very well this season.  He is averaging 19.4 points, 7.2 rebounds and 7.6 assists per game.  He is shooting 42.1% from the field and 36.9% from beyond the arc.  He had 25 points and 9 assists in the first game against the Celtics.  The Celtics definitely need to try to slow him down.  If Marcus Smart can play, I expect him to start at the point.

Honorable Mention

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Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum vs Terry Rozier and Gordon Hayward
This is a matchup of the Celtics 2 stars against two former Celtics, both of whom are playing very well this season.  Rozier is averaging 18.4 points, 4.1 rebounds and 3.6 assists.  He is shooting 43.4% from the field and 37.8% from beyond the arc.  Hayward is averaging 17.3 points, 4.7 rebounds, and 3.7 assists while shooting 46.9% from the field and 39.1% from beyond the arc.  Former Celtics usually try harder against their former team and many have big games when they face the Celtics.  Jaylen and Jayson definitely need to slow these two down and keep them from having big games. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - Defense is always a key to winning games.   The Celtics must commit to playing tough team defense if they hope to win this game.  They have the players to be an elite defensive team, but they need to make defense a priority and every player must commit to playing lock down defense.  The Hornets are 2nd, averaging 114.5 points per game.  The Celtics are 19th, averaging 107.6 points per game.  The Hornets are 4th, shooting 37.3% from beyond the arc.  The Celtics won't win a shoot out against this team and so they must get stops and play tough defense. 

Rebound
- Much of rebounding is effort and hustle.  The Celtics need to crash the boards as a team and fight for every rebound.   The Celtics must beat the Hornets to rebounds to give themselves extra possessions and to keep the Hornets from getting the same.  The Hornets average 13.2 2nd chance points and so the Celtics have to work harder to get rebounds to prevent extra possessions and 2nd chance points for the Hornets. 

Be Aggressive - The Celtics have fallen into the habit of letting teams out-work them at times.  At one time, the Celtics were able to win games by playing harder than their opponents regardless of the talent on their team.  The Celtics must be more aggressive on the boards, on defense, on going for loose balls and they have to be aggressive in going to the basket.  They can't allow the Hornets to play harder than them. 

Stay Focused - The Celtics must stay focused on playing the right way.  They have to take care of the ball because the Hornets are 2nd in the league with 19.1 points off of turnovers per game.  The Celtics tend to lose focus and turn the ball over in bunches.  They have to focus on making crisp passes and on not turning the ball over.  They also have to focus on taking good shots and making them. 

X-Factors
Home Game - The Celtics are playing in their third straight home game while the Hornets are playing in their second straight game on the road.  The Celtics should get a boost from the home crowd and from being in the friendly confines of the TD Garden.  The Hornets are 12-14 on the road and have to deal with all the distractions that come with playing on the road.   The Celtics need to protect home court.

Officiating - Officiating is always an x-factor.  Sometimes you don't even notice the refs but other times, they very clearly make their presence known.  Every crew calls the game differently and players never know what to expect.  Sometimes they call it tight with a foul for every little bit of contact.  Sometimes they let the teams play and allow them to be physical.  Players need to adjust to how the game is being called and not allow the officiating to take their focus off of playing their game. And they definitely don't need to complain after every call. 
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Re: Hornets (24-20) at Celtics (23-22) Game #46 1/19/22
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TP for another great game thread FL.  been ages since I was first in the thread

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TP to  slamtheking  for being the first to post in the game thread!!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!

Beat the Hornets!!!!!

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TP to  slamtheking  for being the first to post in the game thread!!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!

Beat the Hornets!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

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swat the hornets!!!!!!!!

thanks flc once more for the thread. win or lose, these are great reads and we all appreciate you doing these for us.

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I'm going so I'll see if I can bring the Celtcis luck. More likely I'll end their win streak. But I'm looking forward to seeing Lemelo and Gordo and then I can imagine what the Celtics would be like with a couple of guys who can actually pass the ball.

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Biggest game of the season — because it’s the next one!

Let’s show some consistency and get a W

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Man, I like the Hornets. LaMelo Ball and Gordon Hayward are a lot of fun to watch. Then they got Miles Bridges and Terry Rozier in supporting roles supplying lots of three point shooting (14 3s per game) and good scoring (38ppg).

You look at them and compare those guys in those roles to our Celtics:

(1) Their two stars actually pass the ball and make their teammates better. Both among the best ball-handlers and passers at their positions. Also good shooters.

(2) Genuine scoring and shooting support for their star players. 38ppg from their 3rd and 4th best players. Compare that to Boston - who is it even? Schroder is the 3rd best scorer, then who? Smart? Horford? Josh Richardson? Such a lack of genuine quality offensive support for Tatum and Jaylen.

And they play small!

Miles Bridges a combo forward plays PF. They play two combo guards and a ball-handling SF. They play with speed and skill. Push the ball. Out-skill opponents.

We don't. We don't try to out-skill anyone except for the worst of the worst. We don't play with pace. We don't try to out-run everyone. Everything is so slow and stodgy. Mucky halfcourt offense. Ugly team to watch.

It is only when you watch some of these other teams in the league that you realize how far behind the Celtics are in terms of their roster composition and skill levels.

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Man, I like the Hornets. LaMelo Ball and Gordon Hayward are a lot of fun to watch. Then they got Miles Bridges and Terry Rozier in supporting roles supplying lots of three point shooting (14 3s per game) and good scoring (38ppg).

You look at them and compare those guys in those roles to our Celtics:

(1) Their two stars actually pass the ball and make their teammates better. Both among the best ball-handlers and passers at their positions. Also good shooters.

(2) Genuine scoring and shooting support for their star players. 38ppg from their 3rd and 4th best players. Compare that to Boston - who is it even? Schroder is the 3rd best scorer, then who? Smart? Horford? Josh Richardson? Such a lack of genuine quality offensive support for Tatum and Jaylen.

And they play small!

Miles Bridges a combo forward plays PF. They play two combo guards and a ball-handling SF. They play with speed and skill. Push the ball. Out-skill opponents.

We don't. We don't try to out-skill anyone except for the worst of the worst. We don't play with pace. We don't try to out-run everyone. Everything is so slow and stodgy. Mucky halfcourt offense. Ugly team to watch.

It is only when you watch some of these other teams in the league that you realize how far behind the Celtics are in terms of their roster composition and skill levels.



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This is a must win IMO.  Hopefully Smart is back and we are at full strength.  We need his Defense.

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Good test. A decent team at full strength.  Hornets destroyed Sixers at Philly recently.  We will have to play our best to win.

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I think a Smart <> PJ Washington basis trade could be interesting for both teams.

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Man, I like the Hornets. LaMelo Ball and Gordon Hayward are a lot of fun to watch. Then they got Miles Bridges and Terry Rozier in supporting roles supplying lots of three point shooting (14 3s per game) and good scoring (38ppg).

You look at them and compare those guys in those roles to our Celtics:

(1) Their two stars actually pass the ball and make their teammates better. Both among the best ball-handlers and passers at their positions. Also good shooters.

(2) Genuine scoring and shooting support for their star players. 38ppg from their 3rd and 4th best players. Compare that to Boston - who is it even? Schroder is the 3rd best scorer, then who? Smart? Horford? Josh Richardson? Such a lack of genuine quality offensive support for Tatum and Jaylen.

And they play small!

Miles Bridges a combo forward plays PF. They play two combo guards and a ball-handling SF. They play with speed and skill. Push the ball. Out-skill opponents.

We don't. We don't try to out-skill anyone except for the worst of the worst. We don't play with pace. We don't try to out-run everyone. Everything is so slow and stodgy. Mucky halfcourt offense. Ugly team to watch.

It is only when you watch some of these other teams in the league that you realize how far behind the Celtics are in terms of their roster composition and skill levels.



I tried to give 2 TP's but couldn't.

"Nail hit on head."
I just gave him one for you. 'Making your teammates better' - that's the key phrase. The Jays aren't there. To be honest neither was Paul Pierce for a good part of his career.  As sarcastic as I can get about these guys sometimes I still think Tatum especially has the potential to get there.  Hayward's departure from the C's, probably cost them at least 10 wins per season, assuming he stayed healthy - maybe more than that - for all the Gordo haters that have been on these boards.

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Man, I like the Hornets. LaMelo Ball and Gordon Hayward are a lot of fun to watch. Then they got Miles Bridges and Terry Rozier in supporting roles supplying lots of three point shooting (14 3s per game) and good scoring (38ppg).

You look at them and compare those guys in those roles to our Celtics:

(1) Their two stars actually pass the ball and make their teammates better. Both among the best ball-handlers and passers at their positions. Also good shooters.

(2) Genuine scoring and shooting support for their star players. 38ppg from their 3rd and 4th best players. Compare that to Boston - who is it even? Schroder is the 3rd best scorer, then who? Smart? Horford? Josh Richardson? Such a lack of genuine quality offensive support for Tatum and Jaylen.

And they play small!

Miles Bridges a combo forward plays PF. They play two combo guards and a ball-handling SF. They play with speed and skill. Push the ball. Out-skill opponents.

We don't. We don't try to out-skill anyone except for the worst of the worst. We don't play with pace. We don't try to out-run everyone. Everything is so slow and stodgy. Mucky halfcourt offense. Ugly team to watch.

It is only when you watch some of these other teams in the league that you realize how far behind the Celtics are in terms of their roster composition and skill levels.

And yet the Celtics are 2 points per game better, because for all their scoring, the Hornets give up the second-most points in the NBA.  Basketball is played at both ends of the court.  The Celtics have chosen to emphasize defense at the expense of offense, while the Hornets have chosen the opposite extreme.  It does not mean that the Celtics are less skilled or less talented than the Hornets.