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If you had to choose, who stays?

Terry Rozier
58 (42.6%)
Marcus Smart
78 (57.4%)

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Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #195 on: April 27, 2018, 11:10:04 AM »

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Watching them play, I keep thinking Smart is the better fit with a healthy Irving and Rozier is a better replacement for when Irving is hurt.   


It still comes down to cost of Smart and trade value of Rozier. 

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #196 on: April 27, 2018, 08:23:45 PM »

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One thing that stuck out for me watching last night was that Smart and Rozier are awful playing together. Both guys are at their best when they are playing with better players and the ball is moving. When they are in the game together, they stop the ball and start trying to take their defenders off the dribble, and the offense grinds to a halt. All those midseason games where the bench struggles to score came flooding back to me.

Just another reason not to keep both guys.
Smart also doesn't seem to get Brown and Tatum involved as much as when he was gone. I have seen him waving off both when they have called for the ball over the last two days. If Smart is the reason the Cs defense has played the last two games, he is definitely responsible for how bad the offense has been as well.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #197 on: April 27, 2018, 08:45:41 PM »

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One thing that stuck out for me watching last night was that Smart and Rozier are awful playing together. Both guys are at their best when they are playing with better players and the ball is moving. When they are in the game together, they stop the ball and start trying to take their defenders off the dribble, and the offense grinds to a halt. All those midseason games where the bench struggles to score came flooding back to me.

Just another reason not to keep both guys.
Smart also doesn't seem to get Brown and Tatum involved as much as when he was gone. I have seen him waving off both when they have called for the ball over the last two days. If Smart is the reason the Cs defense has played the last two games, he is definitely responsible for how bad the offense has been as well.

Not much of a surprise that a guy who hasn't played in more than a month isn't on the same page as everyone offensively

I don't know that our offense in games in 5 and 6 was much worse than game 3 and the first half if game 4, though
I'm bitter.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #198 on: April 28, 2018, 09:27:09 PM »

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If Marcus Smart were a Sith he'd be Darth Bane when he was a miner.

He can't control the Force but he's extremely strong in it and just has these outbursts. There is no explanation for this player

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #199 on: April 28, 2018, 09:29:39 PM »

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Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #200 on: April 28, 2018, 09:37:37 PM »

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Rozier with the kyrie bank shot

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #201 on: April 28, 2018, 09:43:44 PM »

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keep them both !!!!

we do want to win some titles, right ?
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Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #202 on: April 28, 2018, 09:52:22 PM »

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Baynes too


Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #203 on: April 28, 2018, 09:59:06 PM »

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The Four Celtic Generals:
Russell - Cowens - Bird - Garnett

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Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #204 on: April 28, 2018, 10:19:19 PM »

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Can we just keep both and draft only biggies for like the next 3 years?I think the Celtics are World Champs next year and thats with the following team

Kyrie/Rozier/Kadeem Allen
Jaylen/Smart/Bird
Hayward/Ojeleye/1st round pick
Tatum/Morris/MLE-UFA
Horford/Monroe/Theis

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #205 on: April 28, 2018, 10:40:43 PM »

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Can we just keep both and draft only biggies for like the next 3 years?I think the Celtics are World Champs next year and thats with the following team

Kyrie/Rozier/Kadeem Allen
Jaylen/Smart/Bird
Hayward/Ojeleye/1st round pick
Tatum/Morris/MLE-UFA
Horford/Monroe/Theis

Love this thinking - we do need help inside and I still believe we need a young Kyle Korver type shooter off the bench to get over the hump.

Also, where are Baynes and Larkin on your list?? Both were huge in Game 7 tonite.
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Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #206 on: April 28, 2018, 10:43:14 PM »

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Pay the tax, Wyc. Keep all of them.
I moved the cheese.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #207 on: April 29, 2018, 09:39:18 AM »

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In the great words of Snoop Dogg  "Can I please get a MFing moment of silence?"

Both these players have improved into their best versions of themselves over the course of this long year.

The Celts have developed them both, and I think maybe in the case of Smart he even had to develop as a person, which is not easy for a young millionaire.

The Celts have earned the right to make the decision on this all the way and either one of them leaving will be painful.

As much as I hate to admit it maybe Terry is a tad more replaceable in the sense that his skill set happens from time to time.

Smart....you just can't find what he does anywhere.

In a vacuum I'd keep Terry and I think he has a little more upside.

In the real world I probably keep Smart at this point.  At least in terms of what we see on the court.

If the present team (without Kyrie) were a bike without Terry you just lost the handlebars.  Without Smart you just lost the chain.

It's gonna come down to money and cap stuff and trade value and whatnot. That's not really my forte.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #208 on: April 30, 2018, 09:48:25 PM »

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How can you not keep them both after what they have done this season ??

How can you not keep everyone that contributed - Just add key draft picks. We need a spot-up knock-down guy from 3 and add help inside. Why trade away a player we can't replace - Remember Kendrick Perkins, Danny. You traded him and spent the next 3 years looking for a center and gave up our one advantage in the process.
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Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #209 on: April 30, 2018, 09:56:05 PM »

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How can you not keep them both after what they have done this season ??

How can you not keep everyone that contributed - Just add key draft picks. We need a spot-up knock-down guy from 3 and add help inside. Why trade away a player we can't replace - Remember Kendrick Perkins, Danny. You traded him and spent the next 3 years looking for a center and gave up our one advantage in the process.
That's a very interesting comparison. Also they lost Powe before they lost Perk. Suddenly a lot of identity was gone