Boston-Orlando-Portland big trade

[Silky]

Why wait on a hope for Davis when can improve for now and future.


Portland out:
Nurkic, Turner, McCollum
in
Aaron Gordon, Vucevic, Fournier

Portland sheds salary, rebalances roster, stays very competitive



Orlando out:
Gordon, Vucevic, Fournier
in
McCollum, Turner, Brown, Rozier, Bird,



Boston out:
Rozier, Bird, Brown
in:
Nurkic

Boston loses some assets but adds a great young center at a great long term deal. Keeps all picks to still make a push for Davis in a deal involving 1 or Horford/Hayward and picks.

Irving/Wannamaker/Dozier
Hayward/Smart/vet signing
Tatum/Morris/Semi
Horford/Theis/Yabusele
Nurkic/Baynes/Williams

[Jvalin]

Wouldn't even trade Brown for Nurkic straight up (assuming salaries could work), much less throw in Rozier as well.

Imo, that's a terrible trade for the C's.

[gouki88]

Leaves us too thin at the guard spots for my mind

[Silky]

Wouldn't even trade Brown for Nurkic straight up (assuming salaries could work), much less throw in Rozier as well.

Imo, that's a terrible trade for the C's.

really?

Nurkic is a beast.

a bigger, younger Horford.

great passer, very good shot blocker, very good rim defender, improving shot, locked up 4 years at only 11 mill.

IMO a low key top 5 center in the game right now.

[slamtheking]

wouldn't give up Brown to get Nurkic.  Brown's starting to come around this season to play like he did last year.

also, I don't see Denver in the market for guards right now.

[Silky]

wouldn't give up Brown to get Nurkic.  Brown's starting to come around this season to play like he did last year.

also, I don't see Denver in the market for guards right now.

Nurkic is on Portland

[Jvalin]

Wouldn't even trade Brown for Nurkic straight up (assuming salaries could work), much less throw in Rozier as well.

Imo, that's a terrible trade for the C's.

really?

Nurkic is a beast.

a bigger, younger Horford.

great passer, very good shot blocker, very good rim defender, improving shot, locked up 4 years at only 11 mill.

IMO a low key top 5 center in the game right now.

Low key centers aren't all that valuable anymore. How is he a bigger younger Horford? Horford can stretch the floor. Nurkic scores most of his points in the paint. Has only scored three 3-pointers during his entire NBA career.

[Silky]

Wouldn't even trade Brown for Nurkic straight up (assuming salaries could work), much less throw in Rozier as well.

Imo, that's a terrible trade for the C's.

really?

Nurkic is a beast.

a bigger, younger Horford.

great passer, very good shot blocker, very good rim defender, improving shot, locked up 4 years at only 11 mill.

IMO a low key top 5 center in the game right now.

Low key centers aren't all that valuable anymore. How is he a bigger younger Horford? Horford can stretch the floor. Nurkic scores most of his points in the paint. Has only scored three 3-pointers during his entire NBA career.

Horford only made 3 in his first 4 years in the league TOTAL.

Horford was a 9 year vet and 29 years old before he made 88 in a season.

Nurkic is improving into a very very good player.


And you cannot have 5 players standing at the 3pt line with nothing going inside, you need a bigman, or someone, that can post up when the shooting bogs down.
The landscape of the nba is changing again and there is becoming more of an emphasis on bigmen protecting the paint, rebounding and anchoring not only the defense, but the offense.

[Birdman]

Rozier for Mo Bamba..do it

[slamtheking]

wouldn't give up Brown to get Nurkic.  Brown's starting to come around this season to play like he did last year.

also, I don't see Denver in the market for guards right now.

Nurkic is on Portland

you're right, my mistake.  had him confused with Jokic.  definitely wouldn't trade Brown for Nurkic.

[Silky]

Rozier for Mo Bamba..do it

Gladly, but cannot see Orlando doing it

[Silky]

OK, What if Brown was swapped out with Baynes and a pick keeping Brown here?

[nickagneta]

wouldn't give up Brown to get Nurkic.  Brown's starting to come around this season to play like he did last year.

also, I don't see Denver in the market for guards right now.

Nurkic is on Portland

you're right, my mistake.  had him confused with Jokic.  definitely wouldn't trade Brown for Nurkic.

TP slam because I am always confusing Jokic and Nurkic too. I think it's because they were team mates. Or because their names both end in "kic".

[Jvalin]

Wouldn't even trade Brown for Nurkic straight up (assuming salaries could work), much less throw in Rozier as well.

Imo, that's a terrible trade for the C's.

really?

Nurkic is a beast.

a bigger, younger Horford.

great passer, very good shot blocker, very good rim defender, improving shot, locked up 4 years at only 11 mill.

IMO a low key top 5 center in the game right now.

Low key centers aren't all that valuable anymore. How is he a bigger younger Horford? Horford can stretch the floor. Nurkic scores most of his points in the paint. Has only scored three 3-pointers during his entire NBA career.

Horford only made 3 in his first 4 years in the league TOTAL.

Horford was a 9 year vet and 29 years old before he made 88 in a season.

Nurkic is improving into a very very good player.


And you cannot have 5 players standing at the 3pt line with nothing going inside, you need a bigman, or someone, that can post up when the shooting bogs down.
The landscape of the nba is changing again and there is becoming more of an emphasis on bigmen protecting the paint, rebounding and anchoring not only the defense, but the offense.

Horford wasn't shooting 3-pointers in his early days in Atlanta cause the game was different back then. I bet no one ever asked him to do it. Nurkic isn't shooting 3-pointers cause apparently he can't make them. His mid range jumper ain't that good either (38% last season, league average was 40.5%).

In any case, the way I see it, Brown is way more valuable than Nurkic. Would never do the trade straight up, much less throw in Rozier as well.

And you cannot have 5 players standing at the 3pt line with nothing going inside, you need a bigman, or someone, that can post up when the shooting bogs down.

Horford can do both those things.

[Silky]

Wouldn't even trade Brown for Nurkic straight up (assuming salaries could work), much less throw in Rozier as well.

Imo, that's a terrible trade for the C's.

really?

Nurkic is a beast.

a bigger, younger Horford.

great passer, very good shot blocker, very good rim defender, improving shot, locked up 4 years at only 11 mill.

IMO a low key top 5 center in the game right now.

Low key centers aren't all that valuable anymore. How is he a bigger younger Horford? Horford can stretch the floor. Nurkic scores most of his points in the paint. Has only scored three 3-pointers during his entire NBA career.

Horford only made 3 in his first 4 years in the league TOTAL.

Horford was a 9 year vet and 29 years old before he made 88 in a season.

Nurkic is improving into a very very good player.


And you cannot have 5 players standing at the 3pt line with nothing going inside, you need a bigman, or someone, that can post up when the shooting bogs down.
The landscape of the nba is changing again and there is becoming more of an emphasis on bigmen protecting the paint, rebounding and anchoring not only the defense, but the offense.

Horford wasn't shooting 3-pointers in his early days in Atlanta cause the game was different back then. I bet no one ever asked him to do it. Nurkic isn't shooting 3-pointers cause apparently he can't make them. His mid range jumper ain't that good either (38% last season, league average was 40.5%).

In any case, the way I see it, Brown is way more valuable than Nurkic. Would never do the trade straight up, much less throw in Rozier as well.

And you cannot have 5 players standing at the 3pt line with nothing going inside, you need a bigman, or someone, that can post up when the shooting bogs down.

Horford can do both those things.

You cannot give a pass to 9 years on horford yet hold it against 3 years of nurkic. His range is growing.

And horford is not very good and is only declining as the center

And I really doubt there is very many people out there who view Brown as better than Nurkic and fewer still who wpuldnt trade brown as a 8th man for nurkic who would immediately start here