Chris Bosh mad and HOF snub

[Fafnir]

Pretty confident Melo is a lock to make it. He'd be the only top-20 all-time scorer to not be in it (this is assuming LeBron, Kobe, Dirk, TD and Pierce all make it). His Olympic and college resume offsets (for me at least) his lack of NBA winning. Gotta admit, 2012-2014 Melo (when he was playing PF and before he got injured) was one of the most unstoppable guys I've ever seen.

The fact that he did not allow the Knicks to play him at PF after it proved to work still boogles my mind. He had the best year of his career since the early Denver days and then immediately forced the Knicks to never put him in that position again.

[Donoghus]

The issue with Webber is he's almost certainly being kept out entirely because he took money while a member of the Fab 5.

It was a simple misunderstanding.

[Donoghus]

Relax Chris, you'll get in.

[Fafnir]

The issue with Webber is he's almost certainly being kept out entirely because he took money while a member of the Fab 5.

It was a simple misunderstanding.

A loan that he repaid!

Which given the number of people we know who took money and admitted it who are in is such a freaking joke that people care.

Just ask Barkley about how often he went to class and if he got money!

[Androslav]

I know it is not the point of discussion, but to me, Bosh is more deserving HOFer than Melo.

Until you consider his college year and international play which the Basketball HOF does.

It is a personal preference, both are helluva basketball players. I just like the fact that Bosh took poor teams to PO and could be efficient and add more to  great teams like the Heatles. I like his flexibility and versatility. Melos sole college year was something to remember, it is perhaps his greatest basketball success along with WCF appearance.

Also, Melo was always overhyped in my book, I get why but it is still annoying. Bosh did his work more under the radar.

If we are talking about international achievements why is Toni Kukoč isn't yet inside? He needs one house just for his trophies.

[gouki88]

Pretty confident Melo is a lock to make it. He'd be the only top-20 all-time scorer to not be in it (this is assuming LeBron, Kobe, Dirk, TD and Pierce all make it). His Olympic and college resume offsets (for me at least) his lack of NBA winning. Gotta admit, 2012-2014 Melo (when he was playing PF and before he got injured) was one of the most unstoppable guys I've ever seen.

The fact that he did not allow the Knicks to play him at PF after it proved to work still boogles my mind. He had the best year of his career since the early Denver days and then immediately forced the Knicks to never put him in that position again.

Mind boggling is darn right. He was a top MVP vote getter that year too, if I remember right. Then calls it quits. What a waste.

[Fafnir]

If we are talking about international achievements why is Toni Kukoč isn't yet inside? He needs one house just for his trophies.

I think he's going to get in this year? Hard to tell as the criteria is opaque in all areas.

A lot of lesser international players have gotten in ahead of him because he played so much time in the NBA I think, but he got into the FIBA HoF recently so Basketball HoF will come.

[fairweatherfan]

He'll be in but he has a right to be annoyed precisely because that's true. The "first-ballot" unwritten norm is really dumb. If a guy's good enough to get in, he's good enough to get in. If you want a higher bar for getting in on the first vote, change the rules to specify it. None of this vague informal crap.

[bdm860]

I know it is not the point of discussion, but to me, Bosh is more deserving HOFer than Melo.

Until you consider his college year and international play which the Basketball HOF does.

It is a personal preference, both are helluva basketball players. I just like the fact that Bosh took poor teams to PO and could be efficient and add more to  great teams like the Heatles. I like his flexibility and versatility. Melos sole college year was something to remember, it is perhaps his greatest basketball success along with WCF appearance.

Also, Melo was always overhyped in my book, I get why but it is still annoying. Bosh did his work more under the radar.

If we are talking about international achievements why is Toni Kukoč isn't yet inside? He needs one house just for his trophies.

What?

Chris Bosh made the playoffs twice while only having a winning record once in Toronto (winning a total of 3 playoff games).  And in one of those two seasons where he "lead" his team to the playoffs ('08) his team wouldn't have even sniffed the playoffs out West.

Melo on the other hand, did actually "lead" his team to the playoffs for 10 straight years.

I'm not a fan of Melo or Bosh, but you either got some strong anti-Melo or pro-Bosh bias going on if you're trying to hail what Bosh did in Toronto over what Melo did in DEN/NY.

[hwangjini_1]

He's not a HOF caliber player. He may get in anyway, but the league has been full of good players like him who never got in.

agreed. it is the hall of fame, not the hall of pretty good.

[Moranis]

Chris Bosh has a 99.5% HOF Probability.  He will get in without question.  Larry Foust is the only eligible person above 85% that isn't in.  Billups is the only other eligible person above 80% that isn't in. 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

[johnnygreen]

Chris Webber is definitely more deserving of being in the HOF than Bosh. In 7 seasons playing for Sacramento, Webber helped get the Kings to the playoffs 6 times. That playoff run, includes arguably the biggest referee mess up in sports history, where the Kings should have made the Finals. The Kings were serious threats during that time, but happened to coincide with the Lakers run with Kobe and Shaq. I don’t ever recall the Kings having similar success before or since Webber.

Also, controversy aside, his run at Michigan was historic. He was the leader of an all-freshman and later sophomore team that went to the finals in back-to-back years.

When Bosh was the man in Toronto, he managed to only help them make the playoffs twice in 7 seasons. As a Celtics fan, I never worried about Toronto during that time frame. For me, he was the type of player that put up meaningless numbers.

Since the HOF takes into consideration a basketball career, and not just the NBA, Chris Webber should be in before Bosh.

[Moranis]

Chris Webber is definitely more deserving of being in the HOF than Bosh. In 7 seasons playing for Sacramento, Webber helped get the Kings to the playoffs 6 times. That playoff run, includes arguably the biggest referee mess up in sports history, where the Kings should have made the Finals. The Kings were serious threats during that time, but happened to coincide with the Lakers run with Kobe and Shaq. I don’t ever recall the Kings having similar success before or since Webber.

Also, controversy aside, his run at Michigan was historic. He was the leader of an all-freshman and later sophomore team that went to the finals in back-to-back years.

When Bosh was the man in Toronto, he managed to only help them make the playoffs twice in 7 seasons. As a Celtics fan, I never worried about Toronto during that time frame. For me, he was the type of player that put up meaningless numbers.

Since the HOF takes into consideration a basketball career, and not just the NBA, Chris Webber should be in before Bosh.

Webber made the playoffs in just 2 in 5 years before Sacramento.  Not really fair to compare Webber's prime with Bosh's beginning.   

[wdleehi]

He deserves to get in.  Give him credit for sacrificing stats to win titles.   

[CelticsElite]

I know it is not the point of discussion, but to me, Bosh is more deserving HOFer than Melo.

Until you consider his college year and international play which the Basketball HOF does.

It is a personal preference, both are helluva basketball players. I just like the fact that Bosh took poor teams to PO and could be efficient and add more to  great teams like the Heatles. I like his flexibility and versatility. Melos sole college year was something to remember, it is perhaps his greatest basketball success along with WCF appearance.

Also, Melo was always overhyped in my book, I get why but it is still annoying. Bosh did his work more under the radar.

If we are talking about international achievements why is Toni Kukoč isn't yet inside? He needs one house just for his trophies.

What?

Chris Bosh made the playoffs twice while only having a winning record once in Toronto (winning a total of 3 playoff games).  And in one of those two seasons where he "lead" his team to the playoffs ('08) his team wouldn't have even sniffed the playoffs out West.

Melo on the other hand, did actually "lead" his team to the playoffs for 10 straight years.

I'm not a fan of Melo or Bosh, but you either got some strong anti-Melo or pro-Bosh bias going on if you're trying to hail what Bosh did in Toronto over what Melo did in DEN/NY.

Making the playoffs shouldn’t be hall of fame achievement