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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Diggles on September 20, 2018, 03:22:36 PM

Title: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Diggles on September 20, 2018, 03:22:36 PM
Say Kyrie and Butler  are open and more than willing to stay in Brooklyn and Boston strikes first.....

We send Kyrie to Brookly for Russel and Allen instead of letting Kyrie walk for nothing.... 

Then Minnesota loses all leverage and has to filed offers from other teams knowing Butler might leave in FA....So they turn to Brookly in an attempt to get something besides expiring picks.... 

Butler for K Faired, D Carrol and a Pick for himmm...   

I think as long as Kyrie and Butler stay long term, everyone wins.   There has to be some filler, but I like Allen and Russel/Terry/Smart can run the PG duties....   

Question ~  Who wins this trade?  Who loses?   
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on September 20, 2018, 03:26:34 PM
We lose. We lose in that trade.

Minny loses. Minny loses in that trade.

Brooklyn is thrilled to trade expiring contracts and a couple of late first rounders for two superstars though.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: greece66 on September 20, 2018, 03:28:56 PM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: IDreamCeltics on September 20, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
Say Kyrie and Butler  are open and more than willing to stay in Brooklyn and Boston strikes first.....

We send Kyrie to Brookly for Russel and Allen instead of letting Kyrie walk for nothing.... 

Then Minnesota loses all leverage and has to filed offers from other teams knowing Butler might leave in FA....So they turn to Brookly in an attempt to get something besides expiring picks.... 

Butler for K Faired, D Carrol and a Pick for himmm...   

I think as long as Kyrie and Butler stay long term, everyone wins.   There has to be some filler, but I like Allen and Russel/Terry/Smart can run the PG duties....   

Question ~  Who wins this trade?  Who loses?

While I don't like it, it's a technical win for the Celtics since all evidence is pointing towards Kyrie walking at the end of his contract. 

I'd prefer we get someone other than Russel in return as I don't really believe in him as a player, but it's important to turn Kyrie into something.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Diggles on September 20, 2018, 03:36:50 PM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?

I was reading the post on the front page and two long shots reasons. 

He is from NJ area and wants to play close to home/high School
He is friends with Jimmy
Brooklyn has cap space to offer them both a max deal!   

Long shot...  I sure would hate to see him walk for nothing is all I'm thinking.   
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: nickagneta on September 20, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

While I don't like it, it's a technical win for the Celtics since all evidence is pointing towards Kyrie walking at the end of his contract. 

There is absolutely no evidence that Kyrie is looking to walk at the end of the season, just baseless speculation because Kyrie is a friend of Butler.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: BitterJim on September 20, 2018, 04:17:25 PM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?

I was reading the post on the front page and two long shots reasons. 

He is from NJ area and wants to play close to home/high School
He is friends with Jimmy
Brooklyn has cap space to offer them both a max deal!   

Long shot...  I sure would hate to see him walk for nothing is all I'm thinking.

I would rather risk losing him for nothing after a year than lose him for next-to-nothing now
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: rondofan1255 on September 20, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
not a good enough return for Minnesota
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Sophomore on September 20, 2018, 06:55:37 PM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?

I was reading the post on the front page and two long shots reasons. 

He is from NJ area and wants to play close to home/high School
He is friends with Jimmy
Brooklyn has cap space to offer them both a max deal!   

Long shot...  I sure would hate to see him walk for nothing is all I'm thinking.

I would rather risk losing him for nothing after a year than lose him for next-to-nothing now

This times 1000.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: gouki88 on September 20, 2018, 07:06:56 PM

While I don't like it, it's a technical win for the Celtics since all evidence is pointing towards Kyrie walking at the end of his contract. 

There is absolutely no evidence that Kyrie is looking to walk at the end of the season, just baseless speculation because Kyrie is a friend of Butler.
Indeed. The so-called ‘evidence’ is really nothing. It’s been a long offseason
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: timpiker on September 22, 2018, 12:01:18 PM
Why in the hell would a C's fan propose a Kyrie trade until such time that Kyrie says he wants out?  I mean you get a generational type talent and trade him?  OMG man are you a Knicks fan?  The go to the Knicks Forum.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: nickagneta on September 22, 2018, 12:09:37 PM
Why in the hell would a C's fan propose a Kyrie trade until such time that Kyrie says he wants out?  I mean you get a generational type talent and trade him?  OMG man are you a Knicks fan?  The go to the Knicks Forum.
Not cool to question a poster's allegiance. Please do not do it again.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Big333223 on September 22, 2018, 12:38:01 PM

While I don't like it, it's a technical win for the Celtics since all evidence is pointing towards Kyrie walking at the end of his contract. 

There is absolutely no evidence that Kyrie is looking to walk at the end of the season, just baseless speculation because Kyrie is a friend of Butler.
Indeed. The so-called ‘evidence’ is really nothing. It’s been a long offseason

This. I think if Kyrie was going to be traded it would've happened already. Ainge and the team appear to be operating under the assumption Irving intends to stay.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: pearljammer10 on September 22, 2018, 01:11:37 PM
Yuck.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Diggles on September 22, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
To be clear I want him to stay.....   The new post on the front of the blog is the first time I felt a little more comfortable he might stay..... 

I think if we win, we not only increase the chances of keeping him, but also Terry.    A solid 8/9 man rotation is key.   I think these guys below are the ultimate team.....

Ball Handlers
Kyrie
Smart
Terry
Swings
Brown
Tatum
Hayward
Morris
Semi
Bigs
AL
Thesis
Baynes
Williams
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: hwangjini_1 on September 22, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?
geez louise, g666. i hope your new avatar is not a selfie.  :(
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: iadera on September 24, 2018, 07:12:19 AM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?
geez louise, g666. i hope your new avatar is not a selfie.  :(

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Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Celtics4ever on September 24, 2018, 07:26:21 AM
My list of what I am thankful for today has just grown:

I am thankful that Diggles is NOT our GM.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Androslav on September 24, 2018, 08:52:49 AM
Say Kyrie and Butler  are open and more than willing to stay in Brooklyn and Boston strikes first.....

We send Kyrie to Brookly for Russel and Allen instead of letting Kyrie walk for nothing.... 

Then Minnesota loses all leverage and has to filed offers from other teams knowing Butler might leave in FA....So they turn to Brookly in an attempt to get something besides expiring picks.... 

Butler for K Faired, D Carrol and a Pick for himmm...   

I think as long as Kyrie and Butler stay long term, everyone wins.   There has to be some filler, but I like Allen and Russel/Terry/Smart can run the PG duties....   

Question ~  Who wins this trade?  Who loses?
Do you want to give an Allstar away the year you are going for the championship?
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Moranis on September 24, 2018, 09:18:35 AM
Say Kyrie and Butler  are open and more than willing to stay in Brooklyn and Boston strikes first.....

We send Kyrie to Brookly for Russel and Allen instead of letting Kyrie walk for nothing.... 

Then Minnesota loses all leverage and has to filed offers from other teams knowing Butler might leave in FA....So they turn to Brookly in an attempt to get something besides expiring picks.... 

Butler for K Faired, D Carrol and a Pick for himmm...   

I think as long as Kyrie and Butler stay long term, everyone wins.   There has to be some filler, but I like Allen and Russel/Terry/Smart can run the PG duties....   

Question ~  Who wins this trade?  Who loses?
Do you want to give an Allstar away the year you are going for the championship?
I think that is a poor value return, but if Irving doesn't want to be in Boston, I'd much rather trade him this season and get something for him then let him leave, especially since I think Irving's value to actual wins and losses has been greatly overstated on this board once he got here.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: ETNCeltics on September 24, 2018, 09:45:35 AM
There's only a limited # of places a superstar like Kyrie would go. Dumpster fires like Nets and Knicks ain't happening. He's almost certainly staying in Boston.

Having said that, the trade you propose is awful. Why would we give away a year of Kyrie for a couple of jags? You can pick up players of their caliber on any given year for the MLE.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Somebody on September 24, 2018, 11:14:53 AM
I don't agree with us trading Kyrie for peanuts like Russell, but Kyrie is a generational talent? How loose has the definition of such a phrase become.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: konkmv on September 24, 2018, 11:20:31 AM
Kyrie will resign
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Diggles on September 24, 2018, 11:38:27 AM
My list of what I am thankful for today has just grown:

I am thankful that Diggles is NOT our GM.

LOL....Thankful...you are funny.....     Lets make this crystal clear...  I want him to be a Celtic for a long time.....  But if my man does not want to stay in Boston and he would like to play in Brooklyn, then I would try and swing a deal to make him happy and make sure we get something in return for him.....

Sounds like you'd let him walk for nothing....   SO I guess we both would not hire each other to run our franchise....  I'll stick to selling tools in the mean time.  www.toolsforthetrades.com    Let me know if you ever need something.  I'll give you 50% off for being funny..     (: 
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: slamtheking on September 24, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
keep him in green this season whether he wants to resign or not.  best shot at the title is with him on the roster.  we wouldn't get nearly enough value in return (i.e. another all-star PG) to make it worth a trade nor would it help the locker room/cohesiveness of the team this year. 

putting Kyrie, Brown, Hayward, Tatum and Horford all on the floor vs GSW means GSW cannot help off anyone on D and the C's should match up well defending GSW (better than most others)
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: FatKidsDad on September 24, 2018, 11:46:03 AM
A little askew of the topic, and my apologies up front.

Whenever I start to read the thread title" Three way with Minnie..." my brain finishes the sentence with "..., Mickey and Goofy." Then it starts to draw disturbing pictures.

I know.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: nickagneta on September 24, 2018, 11:48:05 AM
I guess the recent news that Kyrie says he hasn't talked to Butler in 2 years and wants to stay in Boston for years to come renders this trade idea and whole thread obsolete.
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: greece66 on September 24, 2018, 11:59:40 AM
Why would Kyrie want to leave Boston to go to Brooklyn of all places?
geez louise, g666. i hope your new avatar is not a selfie.  :(

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My previous FB profile pic, it caused too much cringe comedy for my own good.


Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Diggles on September 24, 2018, 01:34:13 PM
There's only a limited # of places a superstar like Kyrie would go. Dumpster fires like Nets and Knicks ain't happening. He's almost certainly staying in Boston.

Having said that, the trade you propose is awful. Why would we give away a year of Kyrie for a couple of jags? You can pick up players of their caliber on any given year for the MLE.

I hope soooo...... Media day was today and that starting 5 looks fun!     
Title: Re: Three way with Minnie, Boston and Brooklyn
Post by: Diggles on September 24, 2018, 01:52:56 PM
This makes me feel better about rolling with him this year.....   And I guess I agree more with the idea of risking a chance at letting him walk for nothing if it means a chance at winning this year....   

“I don’t want to go with a war of twisted words and, ‘he could have said this, he could have said that.’ Honestly, I’ll leave that to the media, but my job is to really cement myself as the leader of the Boston Celtics, along with all of our other great players and really relish in that opportunity,” Irving said. “Obviously it’s everybody else’s job to look forward to my future before I can, so I just really thought it was important to make sure it’s known that this franchise is really built for the next few years of being at the top-tier of teams in the league.”

“Who wouldn’t want to be a part of that?,” he continued. “What more could you ask for from an organization to really elevate your game? When you want to be on the same lineage of greatness as the guys that have come before you, there are times where I have thought about having #11 in the rafters, hopefully, one day. That’s a dream. It wasn’t so much like that coming out but it’s the truth. I feel that way about my teammates, I feel that way about the organization and I’m looking forward to the challenge this year.”