Stretch 4 options

[keevsnick]

Just as a side not I think its funny when we see a thread suggesting a trade for a young guy, recently drafted on a rookie contract. if he's good enough that C's fans would want him he's almost assuredly not going to be traded by the team that has him. Young guys on rookie deals who have shown anything almost never get traded unless its a prospect for star deal.

[ETNCeltics]

What about the Celtics' roster and Brad Stevens' lineups tells you that he wants a "stretch 4"? Brad didn't go to this 1-3-1 lineup just because that's the roster Ainge handed him.

[Vermont Green]

What about the Celtics' roster and Brad Stevens' lineups tells you that he wants a "stretch 4"? Brad didn't go to this 1-3-1 lineup just because that's the roster Ainge handed him.

I think that is debatable.  Last season, we had the personnel to allow us to play 1 pg, 3 wing, 1 big but most often did not.  We did sometimes but our most frequent line up was with Horford+Morris with Irving, Smart, and Tatum.
 
What ever Stevens is doing seems to be working so it is hard to complain but I think we need more size on the floor or this will catch up with us.

[Sketch5]

Go after Baynes!

Can't unless he gets moved to an other team and then cut. But Haynes on this team would be amazing.

[CptZoogs]

Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

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Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

I saw that as well, and I was wondering the same thing. 

[BitterJim]

Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

What benefit does Ryan Anderson offer over just playing Tatum, Brown, or Hayward at the 4? He can't punish people inside and can't defend bugs to save his life. Any minutes that went to him rather then one of our wings or Smart would be a huge loss (and he couldn't take minutes from our bigs because he can't be the only big on the floor)

[blink]

Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

What benefit does Ryan Anderson offer over just playing Tatum, Brown, or Hayward at the 4? He can't punish people inside and can't defend bugs to save his life. Any minutes that went to him rather then one of our wings or Smart would be a huge loss (and he couldn't take minutes from our bigs because he can't be the only big on the floor)

veteran depth, and a guy that can hit 3's?  I dunno, maybe I am stretching...

[BitterJim]

Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

What benefit does Ryan Anderson offer over just playing Tatum, Brown, or Hayward at the 4? He can't punish people inside and can't defend bugs to save his life. Any minutes that went to him rather then one of our wings or Smart would be a huge loss (and he couldn't take minutes from our bigs because he can't be the only big on the floor)

veteran depth, and a guy that can hit 3's?  I dunno, maybe I am stretching...

Our wings can already hit 3s. The vet depth could be a legit concern come the playoffs, but 1. Brown, Tatum, and Smart already have a ton of playoff experience despite their age, and 2. if we bring someone in for vet depth purposes, it should either be a Robin Lopez-type defending/rebounding big or a legit bench scorer

[blink]

Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

What benefit does Ryan Anderson offer over just playing Tatum, Brown, or Hayward at the 4? He can't punish people inside and can't defend bugs to save his life. Any minutes that went to him rather then one of our wings or Smart would be a huge loss (and he couldn't take minutes from our bigs because he can't be the only big on the floor)

veteran depth, and a guy that can hit 3's?  I dunno, maybe I am stretching...

Our wings can already hit 3s. The vet depth could be a legit concern come the playoffs, but 1. Brown, Tatum, and Smart already have a ton of playoff experience despite their age, and 2. if we bring someone in for vet depth purposes, it should either be a Robin Lopez-type defending/rebounding big or a legit bench scorer

I meant a big guy off the bench who can hit 3's, as in the title of the thread - stretch 4 options.  As much as I love Grant W, he doesn't seem like he will be hitting 3s for us this year.  Hopefully eventually.

Like I said, I am not sure that this is a solution, but just that Anderson did have some skills that would be good in a Brad type offense.  Now are those skills still good enough for him to carve out minutes over our young inexperienced bench?  not sure.

[BitterJim]

Anderson seems past done, but does anyone have interest in kicking the tires?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-rockets-waiving-ryan-anderson-174002778.html

I'm guessing no cuz he makes Kanter look like Ben Wallace.

What benefit does Ryan Anderson offer over just playing Tatum, Brown, or Hayward at the 4? He can't punish people inside and can't defend bugs to save his life. Any minutes that went to him rather then one of our wings or Smart would be a huge loss (and he couldn't take minutes from our bigs because he can't be the only big on the floor)

veteran depth, and a guy that can hit 3's?  I dunno, maybe I am stretching...

Our wings can already hit 3s. The vet depth could be a legit concern come the playoffs, but 1. Brown, Tatum, and Smart already have a ton of playoff experience despite their age, and 2. if we bring someone in for vet depth purposes, it should either be a Robin Lopez-type defending/rebounding big or a legit bench scorer

I meant a big guy off the bench who can hit 3's, as in the title of the thread - stretch 4 options.  As much as I love Grant W, he doesn't seem like he will be hitting 3s for us this year.  Hopefully eventually.

Like I said, I am not sure that this is a solution, but just that Anderson did have some skills that would be good in a Brad type offense.  Now are those skills still good enough for him to carve out minutes over our young inexperienced bench?  not sure.

But what does a guy like Ryan Anderson add over a wing playing the 4 in small ball? He doesn't play better D on bigs, isn't a better rebounder, and can't punish teams inside if they go small, so there's no benefit to someone like him.

There are some stretch 4s that could help the team a lot (like one that can play average or better defense, or is pretty good at hitting the boards), but in today's NBA Ryan Anderson is just a slower, worse version of a wing. Being bigger and taller isn't an advantage if you never use it

If we go after a stretch 4, it needs to be someone that adds more than shooting (probably defense or rebounding, since we don't really have any bigs that can do those and stretch the floor. Guys like that are hard to find/get, though)

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I want Maxi Kleber.

6'10", can stretch the floor, can protect the rim, good runner. I really think he's perfect for Brad's system.

Depending on where we are in the standings, but if we are on the top of the league, I won't mind giving up a first for him. With him being locked up in a four year contract, it would be worth it. I think he could be a better player than who we can get in the late 20s of the first round.

[Fafnir]

I want Maxi Kleber.

6'10", can stretch the floor, can protect the rim, good runner. I really think he's perfect for Brad's system.

Depending on where we are in the standings, but if we are on the top of the league, I won't mind giving up a first for him. With him being locked up in a four year contract, it would be worth it. I think he could be a better player than who we can get in the late 20s of the first round.

I don't think he'd be available for a pick given that the Mavs aren't going to have cap space for a while and are looking to contend.

[Fafnir]

Andreson is no longer a rotation player in the league. Just too much of a liability on D given how small the league is at the 4 now-a-days.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I want Maxi Kleber.

6'10", can stretch the floor, can protect the rim, good runner. I really think he's perfect for Brad's system.

Depending on where we are in the standings, but if we are on the top of the league, I won't mind giving up a first for him. With him being locked up in a four year contract, it would be worth it. I think he could be a better player than who we can get in the late 20s of the first round.

I don't think he'd be available for a pick given that the Mavs aren't going to have cap space for a while and are looking to contend.

Maybe they will.

They still have Dwight Powell who can take over the starting PF spot. We trade Semi and maybe another guy to match the contract, along with a 1st and they might bite. Especially if they are not around the top of the West.